SuperSpeed Golf training system

[Pomps]

 

Happy to find the club face today. Ive hit balls into a net a few times this winter but havent played since Dec. 1st. Felt like my balance was very good and I was trying to make course worthy swings so I know how much to tip my new driver and 3 wood shafts.

 

That’s some speed!

[03SMURF]

 

Happy to find the club face today. Ive hit balls into a net a few times this winter but havent played since Dec. 1st. Felt like my balance was very good and I was trying to make course worthy swings so I know how much to tip my new driver and 3 wood shafts.

 

That’s some speed!

 

Thanks!

 

I had a couple of thoughts while reviewing the numbers. The first being I was pretty tired by the time I got to the driver. I hit every club leading up to it, about 70 balls. The other is even though I continued to get tired while hitting driver, my speed and distance improved as I got more comfortable hitting a ball again. I think once I get in mid season form I might free up another 1-3 mph.

[03SMURF]

 

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

[clevited]

So I finished my first version of my little inertia calculator. Basically if I know the weight in grams of a club, where its balance point is, and its overall length measured as the PGA does, I can pretty accurately (I think) tell you what your swing speed is with any one club you want to compare it to. If you want to build a club, well I would just have to do some research to get close as I have to solve for the balance point given the components you want to use. Ideally I would also need to know some info about your swing length.

 

I have compared my calculator to these SSG things and what some of you have stated is your current swing speed and it jives so far with everything. Here are some things I have learned though that make me able to create this, and capture it I think accurately (it needs lots of testing though, I can't claim it works in all situations but so far pretty darn good, unexpectedly good).

 

1) Air resistance going from the SSG sticks to an actual driver is almost negligible as far as its effects on swing speed. Negligible to me is like 1 mph max.

2) Swing length when using the SSG sticks is no doubt longer than most peoples real swings, so that effects what you will actually swing your driver at when compared to the sticks.

3) Mentally when a ball is there, it will be much harder to actually put in everything we have. A better direct comparison would be your numbers with SSG hitting a foam ball or hitting a tee. I would be able to more accurately guess what your driver swing speed should be able to be.

4) The combination of 2 and 3 makes for around 10 mph speed loss compared to what I would expect given the effects of club inertia. This is what I have observed from a handful of people on here, and Tyler Parson's videos on YouTube.

 

So, I hope it is alright Smurf, but I would like to do a "guess" for you given what I know you have achieved so far with the sticks.

 

Given that you currently top out at 141 mph with the red stick (which I assume is a super long all out swing, and your actual swing is shorter, and you hold back some because you can't help it), you would top out around 133 mph with a typical off the shelf 45 inch driver. If you were able to make it so you could give it everything you have, even with a ball there, and have just as long of a swing, you would be around 143 mph.

 

If you were able to do that with a typical long drive club, you would top out around 151 mph. Otherwise, around 141 mph would be what I would guess you could do now, which is pretty darn good (but remember this is absolute top end, not an average speed).

 

Does any of this sound realistic? I would guess around 5 mph under each of those numbers would be your true average. So 128 std driver, 136 long driver (realistic), 138 std driver, 146 long driver (all your potential raw speed wise currently).

 

Just to state the reason for this calculator again. I wanted to make it so I could source myself a long drive club, and make it so I get the most out of the extra length. If some of you have ever picked up a long drive club, you may or may not have been able to swing it much faster, at least not even close to as fast as the added length would make you think you should. As a bonus, it comes in handy for those of swinging weighted clubs like these (which SSR accurately measures I have theorized), and turn that into a potentially more accurate swing speed than swinging your driver with SSR will yield. I am also assuming most of us don't have access to a Trackman.

[GungHoGolf]

Has anyone tried the Speedball product from Tour Tempo? The idea of adjustable resistance at and through impact seems legit (they claim it's based on the SAID principles - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAID_principle).

 

See blog article at https://www.tourtempo.com/training-speed-part-troix/ and this video:

 

[flushem]

 

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

 

insane in the membrane of SSR. awesome. :o

[clevited]

 

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

 

You really do have rediculous clubhead speed potential. I have been using Tyler Parson's videos to validate some assumptions I have made regarding the SSG clubs and swing speed radar. One video, his all out red club swings are 133 max. He has recorded long driver swing speeds of 145+. If you are swinging 141 with the red club, it would be quite fun to see you able to harness all of that speed potential with a gamer club and a long drive club. Practice can make that happen for you I feel. Just know you will never get to borrow my driver for a swing lol. I want it to last a while.

 

 

Edit: Not that I don't believe the numbers you are getting could very well be legit, I am starting to think that there is a way to trick SSR into a higher speed with these simple weighted clubs. It might have to do with direction the thing its reading is going. Parson's had some outlier numbers that don't make sense, suddenly jumping up by 10 mph from one swing to the next. This stinks, because if its true, then finding a nice accurate way to measure swing speed on the cheap isn't quite as much of a reality as I had hoped, I hate outlier numbers. You don't know if you did something right or if it read wrong, but then how did it read wrong??? Welcome to what goes on in my brain on a daily basis.

[03SMURF]

So I finished my first version of my little inertia calculator. Basically if I know the weight in grams of a club, where its balance point is, and its overall length measured as the PGA does, I can pretty accurately (I think) tell you what your swing speed is with any one club you want to compare it to. If you want to build a club, well I would just have to do some research to get close as I have to solve for the balance point given the components you want to use. Ideally I would also need to know some info about your swing length.

 

I have compared my calculator to these SSG things and what some of you have stated is your current swing speed and it jives so far with everything. Here are some things I have learned though that make me able to create this, and capture it I think accurately (it needs lots of testing though, I can't claim it works in all situations but so far pretty darn good, unexpectedly good).

 

1) Air resistance going from the SSG sticks to an actual driver is almost negligible as far as its effects on swing speed. Negligible to me is like 1 mph max.

2) Swing length when using the SSG sticks is no doubt longer than most peoples real swings, so that effects what you will actually swing your driver at when compared to the sticks.

3) Mentally when a ball is there, it will be much harder to actually put in everything we have. A better direct comparison would be your numbers with SSG hitting a foam ball or hitting a tee. I would be able to more accurately guess what your driver swing speed should be able to be.

4) The combination of 2 and 3 makes for around 10 mph speed loss compared to what I would expect given the effects of club inertia. This is what I have observed from a handful of people on here, and Tyler Parson's videos on YouTube.

 

So, I hope it is alright Smurf, but I would like to do a "guess" for you given what I know you have achieved so far with the sticks.

 

Given that you currently top out at 141 mph with the red stick (which I assume is a super long all out swing, and your actual swing is shorter, and you hold back some because you can't help it), you would top out around 133 mph with a typical off the shelf 45 inch driver. If you were able to make it so you could give it everything you have, even with a ball there, and have just as long of a swing, you would be around 143 mph.

 

If you were able to do that with a typical long drive club, you would top out around 151 mph. Otherwise, around 141 mph would be what I would guess you could do now, which is pretty darn good (but remember this is absolute top end, not an average speed).

 

Does any of this sound realistic? I would guess around 5 mph under each of those numbers would be your true average. So 128 std driver, 136 long driver (realistic), 138 std driver, 146 long driver (all your potential raw speed wise currently).

 

Just to state the reason for this calculator again. I wanted to make it so I could source myself a long drive club, and make it so I get the most out of the extra length. If some of you have ever picked up a long drive club, you may or may not have been able to swing it much faster, at least not even close to as fast as the added length would make you think you should. As a bonus, it comes in handy for those of swinging weighted clubs like these (which SSR accurately measures I have theorized), and turn that into a potentially more accurate swing speed than swinging your driver with SSR will yield. I am also assuming most of us don't have access to a Trackman.

 

I think your math looks sound (I’m actually studying for the FE right now so I follow your engineer brain), but I still feel like I would top out much lower due to mental block. The key like you have emphasized is getting passed that mental block that the long drive pros do.

 

 

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

 

insane in the membrane of SSR. awesome. :o

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

 

You really do have rediculous clubhead speed potential. I have been using Tyler Parson's videos to validate some assumptions I have made regarding the SSG clubs and swing speed radar. One video, his all out red club swings are 133 max. He has recorded long driver swing speeds of 145+. If you are swinging 141 with the red club, it would be quite fun to see you able to harness all of that speed potential with a gamer club and a long drive club. Practice can make that happen for you I feel. Just know you will never get to borrow my driver for a swing lol. I want it to last a while.

 

 

Edit: Not that I don't believe the numbers you are getting could very well be legit, I am starting to think that there is a way to trick SSR into a higher speed with these simple weighted clubs. It might have to do with direction the thing its reading is going. Parson's had some outlier numbers that don't make sense, suddenly jumping up by 10 mph from one swing to the next. This stinks, because if its true, then finding a nice accurate way to measure swing speed on the cheap isn't quite as much of a reality as I had hoped, I hate outlier numbers. You don't know if you did something right or if it read wrong, but then how did it read wrong??? Welcome to what goes on in my brain on a daily basis.

 

I’ll never say there isn’t a chance the SSR is being glitchy. It has been pretty consistent with the SSG sticks for me. I was hitting upper 150’s at the end today and just could feel there was a few mph left in me.

I’ll try to get today’s video up here.

[03SMURF]

156-157 swings shown here, hit 161 right after.

 

 

Slow mo from Trackman session.

 

[clevited]

156-157 swings shown here, hit 161 right after.

 

 

Slow mo from Trackman session.

 

 

Yeah, you look like you are taking pretty good rips at it for sure. Looks legit to me. Hopefully that means ssr isn't popping out bs. Could very well be the mental block thing based on what evidence I have so far from various videos and posters on here, including myself. I think therefore then, the best baseline for what a person could realistically swing a club at max and make contact would be swings with those sticks where you actually hit something like rubber tee or foam ball. I would be curious what you get for numbers doing that.

 

Also good luck on the FE, studying is over rated lol. I winged it and passed, you will be fine. Most fun 12 hour exam ever!

 

Edit: perhaps at end of ssg session, tee a foam ball up or rubber tee and record your green, blue,or red (won't matter to me) and use that as your goal to swing driver at (you's have to make contact with the ball of course). Then hopefully that number will creep up for you.

[J13]

161 is MOVING it for sure, nice work. When i use the SSR at the range for clubhead speed i make sure to position it correctly which is about 2 balls back of the ball. If you have it the same place as you use the speed sticks it will most definitely pick up ball speed.

[03SMURF]

161 is MOVING it for sure, nice work. When i use the SSR at the range for clubhead speed i make sure to position it correctly which is about 2 balls back of the ball. If you have it the same place as you use the speed sticks it will most definitely pick up ball speed.

 

I agree and for that reason I don’t even bother using it when I hit balls.

[flushem]

156-157 swings shown here, hit 161 right after.

 

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Slow mo from Trackman session.

 

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compared to you, my swing would look like your thumb movement. what a power you can generate! Now I see how you can pull 161 SS. God bless your core.

[J13]

161 is MOVING it for sure, nice work. When i use the SSR at the range for clubhead speed i make sure to position it correctly which is about 2 balls back of the ball. If you have it the same place as you use the speed sticks it will most definitely pick up ball speed.

 

I agree and for that reason I don’t even bother using it when I hit balls.

 

Usually takes me 2 or 3 balls before i get the right spot but it's once you do it's a great tool to use on the range. I like to measure how different movements produce different speeds. Really helps get in tune with your body mechanics.

[03SMURF]

156-157 swings shown here, hit 161 right after.

 

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Slow mo from Trackman session.

 

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compared to you, my swing would look like your thumb movement. what a power you can generate! Now I see how you can pull 161 SS. God bless your core.

 

Thanks! Weight and mobility training help me move and avoid injury a lot.

 

I forgot to post what I did before SSG today.

 

5 rounds of 3

Barbell snatch and box jumps (on stacked tires)

 

3 rounds

5 rep med weight standing overhead press

Medicine ball wall circuit

 

3x10 medium weight dumbbell shrugs

[clevited]

161 is MOVING it for sure, nice work. When i use the SSR at the range for clubhead speed i make sure to position it correctly which is about 2 balls back of the ball. If you have it the same place as you use the speed sticks it will most definitely pick up ball speed.

 

I put mine 2 to 3 balls back from my tee, and frequently read 128-131 when hitting balls with driver. I have a bad case of ee right now and im hitting heel so bad i have no way to verify with ball speed. My swing caddie hates me and is all over the place with swing speed, and ball speed is crap of course. Unless my sf is 1.2 off the heel, ssr is being very kind to me.

 

I suspect ssr is catching s really violent toe closing.

[clevited]

I don't usually like to share vids but this is my latest and greatest swing. I have been experimenting ala Bubba Watson (but in my old age) to find the swing that works best for me. It needs work, but it feels quick.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AFrHExttxQ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRo6LMA49MM

 

Smurf, I am fat, oldish and lazy, my ceiling isn't as high, but I aspire to reach your uber all the same lol.

 

Edit: Does this look 130? Once swings get beyond like 110, i can't tell one apart from another speed wise. I did match up frame for frame with a sadlowski video I found, but I don't trust that.

[03SMURF]

I don't usually like to share vids but this is my latest and greatest swing. I have been experimenting ala Bubba Watson (but in my old age) to find the swing that works best for me. It needs work, but it feels quick.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AFrHExttxQ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRo6LMA49MM

 

Smurf, I am fat, oldish and lazy, my ceiling isn't as high, but I aspire to reach your uber all the same lol.

 

Edit: Does this look 130? Once swings get beyond like 110, i can't tell one apart from another speed wise. I did match up frame for frame with a sadlowski video I found, but I don't trust that.

 

It looks darn close to 130 to me. Comparing your video to my normal speed video you look a like you’re swinging a little faster.

 

Normal speed

[clevited]

Cool, its so hard to tell, helps to have opinions of others. My ssr said 130 on the slow mo video.

[flushem]

I don't usually like to share vids but this is my latest and greatest swing. I have been experimenting ala Bubba Watson (but in my old age) to find the swing that works best for me. It needs work, but it feels quick.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AFrHExttxQ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRo6LMA49MM

 

Smurf, I am fat, oldish and lazy, my ceiling isn't as high, but I aspire to reach your uber all the same lol.

 

Edit: Does this look 130? Once swings get beyond like 110, i can't tell one apart from another speed wise. I did match up frame for frame with a sadlowski video I found, but I don't trust that.

 

I know another guy swings like you. He won the longest often. Straight as arrow too. Not pretty but charm.

[clevited]

Lol, yeah its not pretty, never will be. I forgo the nice finish like Bubba does, and I setup for single plane swing ala Bryson. Its a mutant, but its mine. Its also efficient, and will be even more when I get some of my EE out of it.

[clevited]

So I need to try it in order to test my theory, but according to my calculator, if I add another 65g to the the inside of my driver shaft, right at its butt end, I can potentially gain 5 mph of clubhead speed. I think i will give it a go in the near future and see if I am right.

[JDIL]

Thinking of building my own. Since the system is 3 clubs (2 lighter, one slightly heavier) anyone just build out two clubs, and then just add some temp weight to their gamer?

 

Or should I really get all 3?

 

Or has anyone built a modular system somehow. Where it's one shaft but you can add weights to it.

 

In the meantime I purchased Swingmangolf a while back. Haven't gotten around to it yet, and worst thing is, I went through some professional/personal stuff recently, and didn't eat well for a month or two. On top of that lost weight mountain biking. So my swing speed is super slow right now.l

 

5'6", 135 lb, 40 years old (I'm short and skinny) I was never a big swinger but now my drives only go 200-210 total as measured by GPS. Need to add some yardage. Going at this in 3 stages. Swingmangolf until I don't see any more gains. Add in the SuperSpeed and/weight training

[seve1972]

156-157 swings shown here, hit 161 right after.

 

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Slow mo from Trackman session.

 

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compared to you, my swing would look like your thumb movement. what a power you can generate! Now I see how you can pull 161 SS. God bless your core.

 

Thanks! Weight and mobility training help me move and avoid injury a lot.

 

I forgot to post what I did before SSG today.

 

5 rounds of 3

Barbell snatch and box jumps (on stacked tires)

 

3 rounds

5 rep med weight standing overhead press

Medicine ball wall circuit

 

3x10 medium weight dumbbell shrugs

 

smurf...are you working both sides when doing swing speed training and wall circuit with medicine ball?? I mean is there any real value of swinging the left side....?? if there was ONLY 2 activities you could use to build speed....what would they be???

[seve1972]

Thinking of building my own. Since the system is 3 clubs (2 lighter, one slightly heavier) anyone just build out two clubs, and then just add some temp weight to their gamer?

 

Or should I really get all 3?

 

Or has anyone built a modular system somehow. Where it's one shaft but you can add weights to it.

 

don't need 3 (the 3rd is your driver). I have 2 built....one ~ 10% lighter and one ~ 15% heavier......

[seve1972]

Thinking of building my own. Since the system is 3 clubs (2 lighter, one slightly heavier) anyone just build out two clubs, and then just add some temp weight to their gamer?

 

Or should I really get all 3?

 

Or has anyone built a modular system somehow. Where it's one shaft but you can add weights to it.

 

In the meantime I purchased Swingmangolf a while back. Haven't gotten around to it yet, and worst thing is, I went through some professional/personal stuff recently, and didn't eat well for a month or two. On top of that lost weight mountain biking. So my swing speed is super slow right now.l

 

5'6", 135 lb, 40 years old (I'm short and skinny) I was never a big swinger but now my drives only go 200-210 total as measured by GPS. Need to add some yardage. Going at this in 3 stages. Swingmangolf until I don't see any more gains. Add in the SuperSpeed and/weight training

 

Good luck!....ya know...you can go into golf galaxy (or wherever) and grab a couple busted shafts at the tip (that they'll end up throwing away).......then go to HOme Depot....pick up some Fender Washers (a couple packs)....and duct tape em on the end to your desired weights. ...boom..ya got a overspeed system...

[clevited]

My first go around was something like that, I highly recommend you epoxy them on the shaft or ummmm eerrm hmmmm hole in the wall! cough* cough*

[seve1972]

My first go around was something like that, I highly recommend you epoxy them on the shaft or ummmm eerrm hmmmm hole in the wall! cough* cough*

 

yeah...like EPOXY ....not super glue :)

[Pomps]

 

New green PR today of 161. Red was 138-141 and blue hit 148. Also, today was the first time all standing dominant green swings were above 150.

 

Is that the all time high on this page? Damn, I was at 138 with the green and hope to hit 140 and thought I was making progress haha.

[J13]

161 is MOVING it for sure, nice work. When i use the SSR at the range for clubhead speed i make sure to position it correctly which is about 2 balls back of the ball. If you have it the same place as you use the speed sticks it will most definitely pick up ball speed.

 

I put mine 2 to 3 balls back from my tee, and frequently read 128-131 when hitting balls with driver. I have a bad case of ee right now and im hitting heel so bad i have no way to verify with ball speed. My swing caddie hates me and is all over the place with swing speed, and ball speed is crap of course. Unless my sf is 1.2 off the heel, ssr is being very kind to me.

 

I suspect ssr is catching s really violent toe closing.

 

When i place mine right I get the same numbers as i do with trackman,flightscope, ect... When capturing club head speed with a driver i also don't angle it 45* if that helps you. I have it facing me directly about 2 balls before the actual ball. Ball won't get picked up and it catches my speed right before impact. If the SSR is behind the ball there is no way for it to capture ball speed. Give it a try.