Driver swing speed in relation to 7 iron swing speed.

[pete52]

What is a good ratio or how much faster should my driver swing speed be in comparison to my 7 iron? I think I am leaving something on the table with my driver. 

[KD1]

I think my coach told me +15mph.

[scooterhd2]

PGA averages are Driver: 113, 7 iron: 90. Ratio: 1.25

 

LPGA averages are Driver: 94. 7 iron: 76, Ratio: 1.24

 

I'd start there. 

[pete52]

I must not swing the driver the right way. I am getting about 10 mph extra.

[ac6]

56 minutes ago, pete52 said:

I must not swing the driver the right way. I am getting about 10 mph extra.

 

If we're talking ratios, if your driver SS is 50 and your 7i SS is 40, you're right on target I'd say 

[SNIPERBBB]

1 hour ago, pete52 said:

I must not swing the driver the right way. I am getting about 10 mph extra.

Or you're swinging out of your shoes with the driver and controlled with the irons or your driver swing is efficient and your iron swing is dreadful.

[pete52]

my 7 iron is 82mph and driver is 92. I hit my irons well after having triple hernia surgery last year. But I feel like i am inefficient with the driver. 

[SNIPERBBB]

6 minutes ago, pete52 said:

my 7 iron is 82mph and driver is 92. I hit my irons well after having triple hernia surgery last year. But I feel like i am inefficient with the driver. 

General rule of thumb is for evey club you go up, your swing speed should increase by 2 mph(its a function largely of the shaft length increase). So your driver is about the equivalent of a 2 or 3 iron in swing speed.

Edited April 5, 2022 by SNIPERBBB

[grantc79]

21 minutes ago, SNIPERBBB said:

General rule of thumb is for evey club you go up, your swing speed should increase by 2 mph(its a function largely of the shaft length increase). So your driver is about the equivalent of a 2 or 3 iron in swing speed.

Doesn't apply to me. 

 

I'm about 94 with a 7 iron and 115 driver. 

[pete52]

That is a good ratio. About 1.22. Mine is not

[pete52]

If I had that ratio i would be around 100 which would be fine for me. I am old lol.

[SNIPERBBB]

12 minutes ago, grantc79 said:

Doesn't apply to me. 

 

I'm about 94 with a 7 iron and 115 driver. 

Unless your playing with a 40" driver or single length irons, it works out.  Standard iron shaft gapping is a half inch per club and most driver shafts are 6-8"longer than a standard 7 iron

[mudge]

44 minutes ago, pete52 said:

my 7 iron is 82mph and driver is 92. I hit my irons well after having triple hernia surgery last year. But I feel like i am inefficient with the driver. 

 

When I started out my 7i and driver speeds were the same as yours, very inefficient.

 

For 7i vs driver, I divide 7i speed by 0.8. So for your 7i speed, driver should be ~102 mph.

[MonteScheinblum]

20-25%

[dsmil]

18% per Sasho Mackenzie.  This is comparing max 7 iron speed to max driver speed.

 

https://golf.com/instruction/sasho-speed-test-golf-swing/

[nitram]

Or, you can see if your Driver distance is twice that of your PW . . .

[scooterhd2]

2 hours ago, nitram said:

Or, you can see if your Driver distance is twice that of your PW . . .

 

not sure about that metric.... Maybe if you swing your PW like you swing your driver. 

Edited April 5, 2022 by scooterhd2

[chigolfer1]

14 hours ago, pete52 said:

my 7 iron is 82mph and driver is 92. I hit my irons well after having triple hernia surgery last year. But I feel like i am inefficient with the driver. 

yeah, that definitely sounds low on the driver side

[chigolfer1]

4 hours ago, dsmil said:

18% per Sasho Mackenzie.  This is comparing max 7 iron speed to max driver speed.

 

https://golf.com/instruction/sasho-speed-test-golf-swing/

 

Good stuff, here's his tweet on it

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MonteScheinblum]

IMO, 18% is too small of a gap.  That’s either swinging 7 iron too hard, or driver not hard enough.  
 

Driver twice PW is in the same boat.

 

I like at least 20% and driver twice 9 iron.

 

Me for example.  I swing driver 120+ comfortably.  I’d give myself a hernia swinging 7iron over 100.  It’s more like 96-98.  When I’m swinging right it’s 25%.  

I hit driver 300+ and it’s rare I hit PW over 135.  
 

I find this the same for most golfers.  My experience says the bigger the gap in these cases, the better.

Edited April 5, 2022 by MonteScheinblum

[b.mattay]

I'm 28% faster with Driver. 93 on the 7 iron, 119 on driver. Could probably max 7 iron at something like 98-99 though. 

[MonteScheinblum]

2 minutes ago, b.mattay said:

I'm 28% faster with Driver. 93 on the 7 iron, 119 on driver. Could probably max 7 iron at something like 98-99 though. 

Perfect.

[nitram]

50 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said:

 

not sure about that metric.... Maybe if you swing your PW like you swing your driver. 

Just food for thought . . .

 

Of course this really depends on the loft on your PW and could easily be a 9 or even an 8 in some older sets. YMMV.

[gioreeko]

I'm around 114 with the driver, and increasing a little every month (thanks to Dr. Kwon's drills on Youtube), and usually around 95 with the 7 iron, although last range session I did hit 100mph with it.

[pete52]

So if its not that 20 or 25% ratio assuming not over swinging the 7 iron then it has to be swing technique with driver. Time for a lesson.

[Umpire Strikesback]

On 4/5/2022 at 7:14 AM, pete52 said:

What is a good ratio or how much faster should my driver swing speed be in comparison to my 7 iron? I think I am leaving something on the table with my driver. 

Wouldn't driver speed v 7 iron speed be directly proportional to the ratio of the length of your driver to the length of your 7 iron? Mathematically it should.

Edited April 6, 2022 by Umpire Strikesback

[pete52]

My driver is 45 inches and 7 iron is standard length mizuno 921

[scooterhd2]

13 minutes ago, pete52 said:

My driver is 45 inches and 7 iron is standard length mizuno 921

Ever tested for your 3W swing speed? I imagine you have normal increments in speed based on shaft length until a certain club length. 

[pete52]

No I have not. But I bet its about the same as driver

[pete52]

Driver just does not feel comfortable at set up