NFL Weekly Picks 2023

Triple Lindy · January 1

Just now, NCLancer said:

No you're okay!

1, 6, 10, 14, and 18 (if you dare).

Goaded me into it!

NCLancer · January 1

8 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

Goaded me into it!

Double Mocha Man · January 1

1 hour ago, Triple Lindy said:

Are we limited to 4 PP’s? If so, I’ve also used all 4.

You could have had 5, but you needed to use one in week 1 or 2.

Double Mocha Man · January 1

Just now, Double Mocha Man said:

You could have had 5, but you needed to use one in week 1 or 2.

... and based on your PP record I don't think you'd want a 5th one. 😁

Triple Lindy · January 1

13 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

... and based on your PP record I don't think you'd want a 5th one. 😁

But the odds are in my favor! 😃

Triple Lindy · January 1

Just now, Triple Lindy said:

But the odds are in my favor! 😃

Plus chi granted me his, so I’m using 2!

Double Mocha Man · January 1

Just now, Triple Lindy said:

But the odds are in my favor! 😃

Nah, it's the same 50-50 coin flip each week...

Triple Lindy · January 1

9 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Nah, it's the same 50-50 coin flip each week...

Not if you use my pretzel logic.

doctoro · January 1

Busy weekend! I just wanted to check in and post my scores

Buffalo fell asleep in the second half and didn't cover L - 0

Giants Covered Win +5

Under Dallas/Detroit Win +5

Total +10

Last 3 weeks

7-1-1

Giddyup Cosmo!

Double Mocha Man · January 2

1 hour ago, doctoro said:

Busy weekend! I just wanted to check in and post my scores

Buffalo fell asleep in the second half and didn't cover L - 0

Giants Covered Win +5

Under Dallas/Detroit Win +5

Total +10

Last 3 weeks

7-1-1

Giddyup Cosmo!

DMM sheepishly wanders into the NFL Picks 2023 thread and declares his +5 weekend. Woo-hoo...

chisag · January 2

5 hours ago, Triple Lindy said:

Since I’m a Cowboys fan, I’ve paid attention to most NFC teams over the years. Your discussion got me to thinking. Have the Bears EVER had a star QB? McMahon won a SB, but he wasn’t anything special, was he? Cutler?

... I moved to Chicago in '78 and have been a fan ever since. I could make the argument McMahon was a star QB because he won several games coming from behind with his passing. He was smart enough to know the defense and Walter Payton were the real stars so he did what he had to do. I think he was much better than many realize but he never had to prove much with buddy Ryans defense.

... I would also make the argument Cutler was a star but had such a troubled career in Chicago it's a tough argument. 23,443yds and closest to him is Luckman with 14,686 playing 26 more games. He threw 154 TD's and other than Luckmans 137 no other QB has more than 68. When Rodgers got a new OC and they struggled early he said the first year is always a learning process with a new OC and new scheme and things aren't where they should be til year #2. Cutler had 6 different OC's or offensive schemes and never got a full 2nd year to implement an offense. He will always be a star in my book but I know I am in the minority.

... Other than those two? Some reasonably capable QB's but nary a star to be found. Until April 2024. 🥳

touch · January 2

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deadsolid...shank · January 2

I’ve said it before in here and I’ll say it again. I think Williams is going to be a bust. He may have a good year or two, but the one I compare him to is Cam Newton. He’s about himself. And nothing else.

I have a feeling this year may well be like the 83 draft, someone taken later could easily emerge as the best. If I had that top pick, I’m moving down and taking my chances later. How many “generational talents” actually become one. There is so much QB depth this year.

chisag · January 2

30 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

I’ve said it before in here and I’ll say it again. I think Williams is going to be a bust. He may have a good year or two, but the one I compare him to is Cam Newton. He’s about himself. And nothing else.

... I have also said from the beginning I am on board as a Drake Maye fan for many reasons. Red flag if Williams believes the Bears should keep Fields. Either he doesn't wanna play in Chicago or he is challenging the GM and the franchise. Neither are a good way to start a career with a team.

deadsolid...shank · January 2

6 minutes ago, chisag said:

... I have also said from the beginning I am on board as a Drake Maye fan for many reasons. Red flag if Williams believes the Bears should keep Fields. Either he doesn't wanna play in Chicago or he is challenging the GM and the franchise. Neither are a good way to start a career with a team.

That’s the thing to me. He’s already dictating terms. Can you imagine trying to coach him when he knows the franchise has more invested in him than the entire staff

NJBigFish22 · January 2

21 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

That’s the thing to me. He’s already dictating terms. Can you imagine trying to coach him when he knows the franchise has more invested in him than the entire staff

From speculation, they may clean house in Chicago because the new president didn’t hire the GM, the coach or was in place when any of the players were signed or drafted. I have also heard that the Commanders are prepared to move heaven and earth to get #1 pick.

So CW may not want to say much and lobby for being the top pick at least until he officially declares for the draft. His traits are what teams want. Also he is a junior and makes good NIL money, so he does have some leverage. I don’t think he is the next Mahomes, more do to coaching, he’s not getting Andy Reid and the Chiefs organization is better, but I think he will be a high quality starter for years.

Chisag and I disagree strongly, but I think Drake Maye has a higher chance of being a bust, especially going to a bad team. Although he has all the traits, I don’t think he makes the players around him better. I think he would be better served falling to a team with better talent and quite frankly a better run organization.

If there are 6 QBs drafted in the first round, history has shown 50% will be a bust, or be a career back up. Even the 83 draft only had 2 of the 5 selected in the first round be what I call great careers (Elway & Marino).

Edited January 2 by NJBigFish22

deadsolid...shank · January 2

14 minutes ago, NJBigFish22 said:

From speculation, they may clean house in Chicago because the new president didn’t hire the GM, the coach or was in place when any of the players were signed or drafted. I have also heard that the Commanders are prepared to move heaven and earth to get #1 pick.

So CW may not want to say much and lobby for being the top pick at least until he officially declares for the draft. His traits are what teams want. Also he is a junior and makes good NIL money, so he does have some leverage. I don’t think he is the next Mahomes, more do to coaching, he’s not getting Andy Reid and the Chiefs organization is better, but I think he will be a high quality starter for years.

Chisag and I disagree strongly, but I think Drake Maye has a higher chance of being a bust, especially going to a bad team. Although he has all the traits, I don’t think he makes the players around him better. I think he would be better served falling to a team with better talent and quite frankly a better run organization.

If there are 6 QBs drafted in the first round, history has shown 50% will be a bust, or be a career back up. Even the 83 draft only had 2 of the 5 selected in the first round be what I call great careers (Elway & Marino).

Exactly. 2 out of 6. And arguably the best of the bunch was the sixth one taken. Admittedly that’s not an every year occurrence, but the depth of this year’s draft is similar. I agree with you on Maye, I’m not as sold on him either. Williams is the big question mark. Are you going to mortgage your future on a guy who has already shown he’s a “me first” type player.

I’d sure rather take my chances with someone like Pennix, who is a leader and teammate (and I think vastly underrated) at 10 or 12 than blow my team’s future to get a maybe. Seems Washington would remember RG III.

NJBigFish22 · January 2

25 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

Exactly. 2 out of 6. And arguably the best of the bunch was the sixth one taken. Admittedly that’s not an every year occurrence, but the depth of this year’s draft is similar. I agree with you on Maye, I’m not as sold on him either. Williams is the big question mark. Are you going to mortgage your future on a guy who has already shown he’s a “me first” type player.

I’d sure rather take my chances with someone like Pennix, who is a leader and teammate (and I think vastly underrated) at 10 or 12 than blow my team’s future to get a maybe. Seems Washington would remember RG III.

I will take Elway over Marino everyday. If it was a pure passing competition then Marino wins, but as a whole on the football field #7 gets my vote.

As for would I mortgage my future on CW, kinda damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If you pass on him and he wins big, you’re probably out of a job, if you do and he’s a bust, same thing. If I was a GM and have the number 1 pick, I’m taking him, only caveat to that is if someone is offering me 3 first round picks, really good left tackle and a really good edge rusher.

chisag · January 2

1 hour ago, deadsolid...shank said:

d sure rather take my chances with someone like Pennix, who is a leader and teammate (and I think vastly underrated) at 10 or 12 than blow my team’s future to get a maybe.

... It's always interesting speculating on how college QB's will play in the NFL. Many a GM has lost their job getting it wrong. But giving credit where credit is due with college performances by college QB's, Penix performance in the Sugar Bowl was one of the best I have ever seen. He excelled on every level. Especially considering how big the stage was. I really hope Washington wins it all.

Double Mocha Man · January 2

28 minutes ago, chisag said:

... It's always interesting speculating on how college QB's will play in the NFL. Many a GM has lost their job getting it wrong. But giving credit where credit is due with college performances by college QB's, Penix performance in the Sugar Bowl was one of the best I have ever seen. He excelled on every level. Especially considering how big the stage was. I really hope Washington wins it all.

Heck, I'm just hoping for a Chicago Bear victory over Green Bay so the Seahawks can maybe squeak into the playoffs.

Oh, and I hope Washington wins it all. But it will be tougher to do with their best running back probably out. That looked like a nasty injury.

touch · January 2

My final record for the Bowl Games

Previous 2 weeks Bowl Game record 3-2-1 going into this week.

SMU -10 Loss

KSU -2.5 Win

ARIZONA - 3 Win

CLEMSON -4 Loss

IOWA ST. -10 Loss

MISSOURI / OSU Over 49.5 Loss

MISSOURI +1 Win

MARYLAND +7 Win

WYOMING -3.5 Loss

LSU -10 Loss

LIBERTY / OREGON Over 67.5 Loss

BAMA +2 Loss

Washington +4.5 Win

How much were these bonus picks worth again @Qqq123xx?

I hit both

Alabama/Michigan 44-59 47 points scored Win

Texas/Washington 60-75 68 points scored Win

This week 5-8 + two bonus plays *tbd their value

8 winning picks 10 losing picks 1 push 2 Bonus winners

Edited January 2 by touch

touch · January 2

8 hours ago, deadsolid...shank said:

I’ve said it before in here and I’ll say it again. I think Williams is going to be a bust.

I agree. I get the same vibes from him as I did from THE Dwayne Haskins coming out of college. 😛

If I am drafting a QB I am taking Penix. Though admittedly I don't watch much college football until the playoffs, I did tune into the Washington - Oregon State game this year and after watching that game made it me a believer so I tuned into other Husky games following the Wash/OSU game. His performance last night sealed my belief that he is the best QB in college football.

touch · January 2

Week 18 Lines for Picks

Saturday Jan 6th

Pittsburgh -3 1/2 at Baltimore 37 1/2

Houston at Indy -1 47

Sunday

Tampa -5 1/2 at Carolina 37 1/2

Jacksonville -3 1/2 at Tennessee 40 1/2

Cleveland at Cincinnati -5 40

Atlanta at New Orleans -4 41 1/2

NY Jets at New England -2 32

Minnesota at Detroit -5 45

Philadelphia -6 at NY Giants 42 1/2

Dallas -13 1/2 at Washington 46 1/2

Chicago at Green Bay -3 44

LA Rams at San Fran -5 42 1/2

Kansas City at LA Chargers -1 1/2 35 1/2

Seattle -3 at Arizona 47 1/2

Denver at Las Vegas -2 1/2 38

Buffalo -3 at Miami 50

touch · January 2

Our Picks Week 18

TL Tampa Detroit New Orleans

doctoro · January 2

8 hours ago, NJBigFish22 said:

I will take Elway over Marino everyday. If it was a pure passing competition then Marino wins, but as a whole on the football field #7 gets my vote.

As for would I mortgage my future on CW, kinda damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If you pass on him and he wins big, you’re probably out of a job, if you do and he’s a bust, same thing. If I was a GM and have the number 1 pick, I’m taking him, only caveat to that is if someone is offering me 3 first round picks, really good left tackle and a really good edge rusher.

As long as Elway has Terrell Davis and a great defense. Marino had hardly anything to work with and still balled out

Not only do I think Marino is better than Elway, but I could say he might have been the best to ever play QB. He was the definition of the perfect passer. And I never rooted for the Dolphins ever. I think Joe Montana even said Marino was the best QB to ever play the game. The thing one has to wonder is whether other teams' front offices putting out smokescreens like chum to entice Chicago not to draft Caleb Williams, or is it real? I think they should build around Justin and load up on skill positions. I like his progress. But that takes some huge cahones, not to mention a salary cap hit. Kyler Murray is another QB who got a bad rap and is now developing. One could say the same about Lamar Jackson and look at him. He seems primed to deliver in the playoffs. The Ravens like Denver with Elway were a quality team and franchise. But unlike Elway who was past his prime in those Super Bowl runs he rode on the backs of Terrell Davis and elite skill position players, while Lamar has taken that offense and put it on his back. I am willing to bet Belichick and the Commanders are salivating over the thought of getting Caleb Williams.

I would go on to say that Elway played like a dog in most of his Super Bowl appearances. The only thing more overrated is Elway"s tenure in the front office. Maybe a top 10 Qb of all time around 9-10 but not better than Marino

imkirby34 · January 2

Week 18 Picks:

Atl/NO Over

Arizona

KC/LAC Over

touch · January 2

Our Picks Week 18

TL Tampa Detroit New Orleans

imk ATL/NO Over Arizona KC/LAC Over

touch · January 2

The NFL Playoffs Contest 2023-2024

Please make sure you understand the format and the point system. Please also bookmark this post so you have it handy all Playoffs long to refer to when you have to submit your total points for the week.

How it works.

Each player gets two Double It Please (DIP) plays to start. DIP's are totally optional. They can be used only during the first two weeks of the Playoffs. That is the Wild Card Weekend and the Divisional round weekend. You can use your DIP plays once each week during the first two weeks. Again this play is optional.

Week 1 - Wildcard Weekend

Pick either a side or an O/U in all the games. A DIP Play is allowed.

Each winning pick is worth 20 points.

A loss is 0 points.

A Push is worth 5 points.

If you DIP'd a play and it hits you win 40 points. If you lose your DIP play it is -20 points, and again if you Push it is worth 5 points

Week 2 - Divisional Round

Pick a side AND an O/U in all the games. A DIP Play is allowed.

Each winning pick is worth 15 points. A loss is 0 points. A push is 5.

If you hit a DIP it is 30 points won. If you lose it's -15 points. A push is 5.

* The Double It Play (always optional) at this point in the contest is now over. There is no DIP play involved during the final two weeks.

Week 3 - Conference Championship Games

Pick a side AND an O/U in both games.

A winning Pick is worth 10 points

0 for a losing Pick.

A Push is worth 5 Points

Week 4 - Super Bowl

Pick both the side and an O/U in the game.

Each winning Pick is worth 25 points.

0 points for a losing Pick, and 5 for a Push.

Submit a Total Points Scored in the game in the case we need a tiebreaker.

touch · January 2

Super Bowl LVlll Predictions

P48 Buffalo Philadelphia 74

LP Miami Philadelphia 60

NJBF Cincy San Fran 64

P3P KC Philadelphia 55

chisag KC Philadelphia 68

IMK Buffalo San Fran 45

CH Jacksonville Philadelphia 69

TL NY Jets San Fran 23

DMM Baltimore Philadelphia 50

Q KC Philadelphia 59

doc Baltimore Philadelphia 51

NCL Baltimore Dallas 65

doctoro · January 2

Looks like the prayers were not answered at Liberty

What was I thinking? Oregon is a good program.
Bo Nix has to be rising up draft boards

5 years is a lot but he looks good

Belichick might go after him

More accurate than Mac Jones in college

Played in the elite conferences

6’2” 216lbs

Give that man a contract

Could be another Neil Lomax who played his entire career with the St Louis Cardinals

Or maybe another Joey Harrington LoL

Anyway I got wiped out in the middle part of the Bowl parade. Started strong and ended strong and hit the cliff climbing contest for the kitchen appliances and the brand new AMC Pacer on with the point spreads with my totals picks. I went against my Terps, but so happy they won and it’s great for their future.

The green is my correct picks

Looks like I went 10-7 plus two creamy middles between those wafers

For a + 2?
Anyway off to the dermatologist

Search for Red spots and bumps

I just had a Basel cell lump dug out of my ear

Just happy to be off work and able to post

Happy New Year

Stay healthy and happy

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