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I'm surprised to find such a discussion taking place on what I thought was a serious golf site. I never defile my temple with alcohol or any other intoxicating substance.

 

Moreover, even if I was such a user of substances, TexasEx, I certainly would never do so while playing the game that we all revere so highly. I take the game very seriously. In my opinion, it is a form of sacrilege to ingest intoxicating substances on the golf course that may interfere with my performance. Also, I prefer not to associate with so-called "golfer" who believe such behavior is appropriate.

 

Is this dude serious?

 

Look, I don't drink on the course.. but I really don't care if others due as long as they don't disrupt other players or damage the course.

 

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^^ Well put. I haven't played a round in the last 20 years without having at least a Beer/Bloody Mary/Captain Coke. I have fun golfing now. My tournament days and serious golf are long gone. If you like to drink during you're round, great. If you don't, great, but I could do without the preaching.

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I find that alcohol during the round kills the buzz from the heroin I mainlined before stepping on the first tee.

 

How does that go with your daily 5mg Cialis? :uhm:

 

 

Our buddy Stage1350,

 

Can swing the stiffest of shafts, drink loads of beer and still have time to get a lap dance from a H-Town Dancer while shooting a smooth 75.

 

True.

 

I miss Splendors. Though St. James was okay too. Houston strip clubs were nice. They agreed with me more than parties in Virginia Beach. It took two days to clean the puke off the side of the truck. AND IT WASN'T EVEN MY TRUCK! :I still owe the Old Guy a car wash:

 

 

I glad it was not my truck either...

 

I have seen what goes in you pie hole, that truck could have major paint damage.

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I prefer water/gatorade at about a 4 to 1 ratio. I would also suggest something simple to snack on like bananas or granola. Keeping your body right will improve your performance and ultimately help lower your scores :friends: .

 

 

Your body is a temple for sure.

 

I have never seen you drink on the course :partytime2:

 

I never understood how people could treat their temple that way. I find that a handful of suppliments and a salmon in my rectum gets me through the round with plenty of energy.

 

Todd

 

I wondered when you'd reveal this to the membership. -Chris

 

Salmon in rectum...

 

The Toddfather is always on the cutting edge.

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I find that alcohol during the round kills the buzz from the heroin I mainlined before stepping on the first tee.

 

How does that go with your daily 5mg Cialis? :uhm:

 

 

Our buddy Stage1350,

 

Can swing the stiffest of shafts, drink loads of beer and still have time to get a lap dance from a H-Town Dancer while shooting a smooth 75.

 

True.

 

I miss Splendors. Though St. James was okay too. Houston strip clubs were nice. They agreed with me more than parties in Virginia Beach. It took two days to clean the puke off the side of the truck. AND IT WASN'T EVEN MY TRUCK! :I still owe the Old Guy a car wash:

 

 

I glad it was not my truck either...

 

I have seen what goes in you pie hole, that truck could have major paint damage.

 

I'm still getting over the mental damage done by Star. "Let me sit on your lap, Papi. I'll give you good time."

 

That's about the time I told her it was Sam's birthday and he hadn't been kissed.

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I have no problem sharing a beer with friends but I do it responsibly. I had a close friend killed by a drunk driver, I don't make light of drinking alcohol. I don't condemn it, many chose to do it responsibly and take effort in not endangering others lives. If you chose to drink yourself into a slumber on the golf course that is your choice, I don't understand why anyone would pay a green fee to go out and get drunk on the course, but that is your business. It becomes my business when you decide to get behind the wheel in that condition. And yes I am the one that will call the sheriff with your plate number if I see it take place. A few alcohol related statistics for you.

 

 

 

This is the year my friend was killed so I will use these numbers.

 

· In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) – 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year..

 

· The 13,470 fatalities in alcohol-impaired-driving crashes during 2006 represent an average of one alcohol-impaired-driving fatality every 39 minutes.

 

· So far this year May 20, 2009 at 3:00pm 4970 people have been killed in alcohol related accidents :

 

· Average cost associated with a first time DUI conviction: $14,660.00 This may vary by City and state. This is for an uncontested plea. It includes basic legal fees, court cost, abuse classes fees, towing bills, license fee and reinstatement and high risk insurance mandatory in most states. Many employer's have implemented personal conduct requirements in company policies that allow for immediate dismissal on a DUI conviction, so increased loss of wages will add to the totals.

 

This is a average assessment, cost associated with a DUI conviction can be and often are much higher. Attorney fees alone in a contested DUI arrest are often equal or greater than cost associated with an uncontested plea.

 

So if you are not worried about endangering yourself and others consider the impact drinking and driving can have on your personal financial situation.

 

Dude,

 

Sorry about your buddy. And I am not trying to be an a**,

 

But, to call the sherriff with my plate number after a few beers is just not cool.

 

And based on my height and weight, like Stage1350 (we are large boned boys) we can certainly handle a couple of beers and drive home.

 

It is still the land of the free will.

 

 

Sorry,

 

I just saw that you do have a few beers with buddys, my mistake.

 

I have to ask though, "How big of a boy are you"

 

Because if you are the national average and myself and guys like Stage1350, well over 6 feet and 200lbs, we could have a couple of beers more than you and be ok.

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I prefer water/gatorade at about a 4 to 1 ratio. I would also suggest something simple to snack on like bananas or granola. Keeping your body right will improve your performance and ultimately help lower your scores :friends: .

 

 

Your body is a temple for sure.

 

I have never seen you drink on the course :partytime2:

 

I never understood how people could treat their temple that way. I find that a handful of suppliments and a salmon in my rectum gets me through the round with plenty of energy.

 

Todd

 

I wondered when you'd reveal this to the membership. -Chris

 

Salmon in rectum...

 

The Toddfather is always on the cutting edge.

So why not just a vodka enema?

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Back to topic......I usually have 2 to 3 beers per 9, have been known to have a few more playing in one of those scrambles with free booze the whole way around the course.

 

I have found that 2-3 beers every 2 hours or so really doesnt faze me one bit, espeically if I am getting a little exercise and have some food in my stomach.

 

I know that being sober you should play better not worse but I have a buddy who I swear gets better per drink, remember the episode of WKRP in Cincinnati where Johnny Fever was doing the impairment test on air and his reflexes got better the more he drank? that is my buddy.

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I prefer water/gatorade at about a 4 to 1 ratio. I would also suggest something simple to snack on like bananas or granola. Keeping your body right will improve your performance and ultimately help lower your scores :friends: .

 

 

Your body is a temple for sure.

 

I have never seen you drink on the course :partytime2:

 

I never understood how people could treat their temple that way. I find that a handful of suppliments and a salmon in my rectum gets me through the round with plenty of energy.

 

Todd

 

I wondered when you'd reveal this to the membership. -Chris

 

Salmon in rectum...

 

The Toddfather is always on the cutting edge.

So why not just a vodka enema?

 

 

Dosen't want to damage the brain cells..

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I have no problem sharing a beer with friends but I do it responsibly. I had a close friend killed by a drunk driver, I don't make light of drinking alcohol. I don't condemn it, many chose to do it responsibly and take effort in not endangering others lives. If you chose to drink yourself into a slumber on the golf course that is your choice, I don't understand why anyone would pay a green fee to go out and get drunk on the course, but that is your business. It becomes my business when you decide to get behind the wheel in that condition. And yes I am the one that will call the sheriff with your plate number if I see it take place. A few alcohol related statistics for you.

 

 

 

This is the year my friend was killed so I will use these numbers.

 

· In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) – 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year..

 

· The 13,470 fatalities in alcohol-impaired-driving crashes during 2006 represent an average of one alcohol-impaired-driving fatality every 39 minutes.

 

· So far this year May 20, 2009 at 3:00pm 4970 people have been killed in alcohol related accidents :

 

· Average cost associated with a first time DUI conviction: $14,660.00 This may vary by City and state. This is for an uncontested plea. It includes basic legal fees, court cost, abuse classes fees, towing bills, license fee and reinstatement and high risk insurance mandatory in most states. Many employer's have implemented personal conduct requirements in company policies that allow for immediate dismissal on a DUI conviction, so increased loss of wages will add to the totals.

 

This is a average assessment, cost associated with a DUI conviction can be and often are much higher. Attorney fees alone in a contested DUI arrest are often equal or greater than cost associated with an uncontested plea.

 

So if you are not worried about endangering yourself and others consider the impact drinking and driving can have on your personal financial situation.

 

Dude,

 

Sorry about your buddy. And I am not trying to be an a**,

 

But, to call the sherriff with my plate number after a few beers is just not cool.

 

And based on my height and weight, like Stage1350 (we are large boned boys) we can certainly handle a couple of beers and drive home.

 

It is still the land of the free will.

 

 

Sorry,

 

I just saw that you do have a few beers with buddys, my mistake.

 

I have to ask though, "How big of a boy are you"

 

Because if you are the national average and myself and guys like Stage1350, well over 6 feet and 200lbs, we could have a couple of beers more than you and be ok.

 

Sorry forgot to highlight. and just for the record, I am drinling an Odulls right now.

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I'm surprised to find such a discussion taking place on what I thought was a serious golf site. I never defile my temple with alcohol or any other intoxicating substance.

 

Moreover, even if I was such a user of substances, TexasEx, I certainly would never do so while playing the game that we all revere so highly. I take the game very seriously. In my opinion, it is a form of sacrilege to ingest intoxicating substances on the golf course that may interfere with my performance. Also, I prefer not to associate with so-called "golfer" who believe such behavior is appropriate.

 

Well then, I guess you'd have a real tough time if you had to play with the people that invented the game now, wouldn't you?

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I have no problem sharing a beer with friends but I do it responsibly. I had a close friend killed by a drunk driver, I don't make light of drinking alcohol. I don't condemn it, many chose to do it responsibly and take effort in not endangering others lives. If you chose to drink yourself into a slumber on the golf course that is your choice, I don't understand why anyone would pay a green fee to go out and get drunk on the course, but that is your business. It becomes my business when you decide to get behind the wheel in that condition. And yes I am the one that will call the sheriff with your plate number if I see it take place. A few alcohol related statistics for you.

 

 

 

This is the year my friend was killed so I will use these numbers.

 

· In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) – 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year..

 

· The 13,470 fatalities in alcohol-impaired-driving crashes during 2006 represent an average of one alcohol-impaired-driving fatality every 39 minutes.

 

· So far this year May 20, 2009 at 3:00pm 4970 people have been killed in alcohol related accidents :

 

· Average cost associated with a first time DUI conviction: $14,660.00 This may vary by City and state. This is for an uncontested plea. It includes basic legal fees, court cost, abuse classes fees, towing bills, license fee and reinstatement and high risk insurance mandatory in most states. Many employer's have implemented personal conduct requirements in company policies that allow for immediate dismissal on a DUI conviction, so increased loss of wages will add to the totals.

 

This is a average assessment, cost associated with a DUI conviction can be and often are much higher. Attorney fees alone in a contested DUI arrest are often equal or greater than cost associated with an uncontested plea.

 

So if you are not worried about endangering yourself and others consider the impact drinking and driving can have on your personal financial situation.

 

Dude,

 

Sorry about your buddy. And I am not trying to be an a**,

 

But, to call the sherriff with my plate number after a few beers is just not cool.

 

And based on my height and weight, like Stage1350 (we are large boned boys) we can certainly handle a couple of beers and drive home.

 

It is still the land of the free will.

 

 

Sorry,

 

I just saw that you do have a few beers with buddys, my mistake.

 

I have to ask though, "How big of a boy are you"

 

Because if you are the national average and myself and guys like Stage1350, well over 6 feet and 200lbs, we could have a couple of beers more than you and be ok.

 

Guy, come on I am not calling a sheriff on a guy over a couple beers, but I have called on a guy that was a clearly drunk, he could barely stand out side his car as he was taking a leak all over his own shoes before he got in and drove off.

 

I am 6'-1" about 200-205. I can handle a few beers. Like I said a few beers ok stretched out over 18 cool. A beer or two after a round no big deal. 3-4 a six pack feeling buzzed your ability to drive is impaired. I played in a client's golf tournament last fall our team won the tournament. He enjoyed himself at the party afterwards more than I knew. He was offered a drive home, he turned it down saying "I am ok I am just a little buzzed" he pulled out of his parking space and before he left the lot he hit a car, luckily no one was hurt. Buzzed means your ability is impaired and you risk your safety as well as others. Listen guys I am not trying to tell others not to drink, I am suggesting that you do it responsibly. Your life and that of others can be impacted greatly. Even if no one is hurt what it can do to a family financially can be devastating.

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I have no problem sharing a beer with friends but I do it responsibly. I had a close friend killed by a drunk driver, I don't make light of drinking alcohol. I don't condemn it, many chose to do it responsibly and take effort in not endangering others lives. If you chose to drink yourself into a slumber on the golf course that is your choice, I don't understand why anyone would pay a green fee to go out and get drunk on the course, but that is your business. It becomes my business when you decide to get behind the wheel in that condition. And yes I am the one that will call the sheriff with your plate number if I see it take place. A few alcohol related statistics for you.

 

 

 

This is the year my friend was killed so I will use these numbers.

 

· In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) – 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year..

 

· The 13,470 fatalities in alcohol-impaired-driving crashes during 2006 represent an average of one alcohol-impaired-driving fatality every 39 minutes.

 

· So far this year May 20, 2009 at 3:00pm 4970 people have been killed in alcohol related accidents :

 

· Average cost associated with a first time DUI conviction: $14,660.00 This may vary by City and state. This is for an uncontested plea. It includes basic legal fees, court cost, abuse classes fees, towing bills, license fee and reinstatement and high risk insurance mandatory in most states. Many employer's have implemented personal conduct requirements in company policies that allow for immediate dismissal on a DUI conviction, so increased loss of wages will add to the totals.

 

This is a average assessment, cost associated with a DUI conviction can be and often are much higher. Attorney fees alone in a contested DUI arrest are often equal or greater than cost associated with an uncontested plea.

 

So if you are not worried about endangering yourself and others consider the impact drinking and driving can have on your personal financial situation.

 

Dude,

 

Sorry about your buddy. And I am not trying to be an a**,

 

But, to call the sherriff with my plate number after a few beers is just not cool.

 

And based on my height and weight, like Stage1350 (we are large boned boys) we can certainly handle a couple of beers and drive home.

 

It is still the land of the free will.

 

 

Sorry,

 

I just saw that you do have a few beers with buddys, my mistake.

 

I have to ask though, "How big of a boy are you"

 

Because if you are the national average and myself and guys like Stage1350, well over 6 feet and 200lbs, we could have a couple of beers more than you and be ok.

 

I am 6'-1" about 200-205. I can handle a few beers. Like I said a few beers ok stretched out over 18 cool. A beer or two after a round no big deal. 3-4 a six pack feeling buzzed your ability to drive is impaired. I played in a client's golf tournament last fall our team won the tournament. He enjoyed himself at the party afterwards more than I knew. He was offered a drive home, he turned it down saying "I am ok I am just a little buzzed" he pulled out of his parking space and before he left the lot he hit a car, luckily no one was hurt. Buzzed means your ability is impaired and you risk your safety as well as others. Listen guys I am not trying to tell others not to drink, I am suggesting that you do it responsibly. Your life and that of others can be impacted greatly. Even if no one is hurt what it can do to a family financially can be devastating.

 

 

Agreed.

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I am ashamed that alcohol is even sold in this land. It should be outlawed with guns and tobacco just like drugs are. Nothing good comes of it. :black eye:
Without it, I would not have been able to bag the 33 yr old asian two weekends ago...
A'ight, dammit....I justed spewed my non-alcoholic beverage all over my keyboard! :lol:

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Occasionally I like to cop a buzz while playing golf, though I prefer to get a buzz from something other than alcohol. Come on, who else knows what I'm talking about?? :drag:

 

Are you my brother? You kind of sound like him and his friends.

 

Hey man you got a joint?

 

It'd be a lot cooler if you did

 

:coolpics:

Dazed and Confused just happens to be my brothers favorite movie, creepy. Its a pretty good movie regardless.

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I like to start the front 9 by drinking out of a 1/2 gallon jug of Popov Vodka as I drive from hole to hole. By the 5th, I enjoy

using my driver as a lance which I use to joust with other golfers coming toward me on the cart path.

 

The initial euphoria and easy, loose draw gradually progresses into a bold block by the turn at which time I have a lunch consisting

of 3 hot dogs and 4 beers.

 

At this stage I like to walk rather than drive and occasionally wander to the wrong tee box and sometimes accidently tee off from

a green or two. I like to use a split grip since holding on to the club becomes an issue in my follow through.

 

My round typically ends on the 16th with a well earned snifter (dixie cup) of XO Premier Cru after which I feature a tee shot

into ground, followed by uncontrollable weeping and my collapse in the water hazard.

 

Post of the thread here.

:cheesy:

 

 

e: and I'm only on the first page! thread n00b here.

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Nothing wrong with a few beers during the round. I play two kinds of golf, one of which is walking for exercise with a few bottles of water or gatorade. The second is my fun golf, with a cart and beer, usually in the afternoons. It's just fun. I generally don't get wasted, but I'm not adverse to leaving my car at the course and catching a ride or calling for one. I've done it before and I'll probably do it again someday. I try not to fall into the buzzed or "I'm this big and it doesn't affect me" trap that most DUI arrests fall under. I bet most people also think that they're also able to talk on the phone or text while driving with no issues. You should try driving behind yourselves sometimes :)

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I've never understood the connection between playing golf and drinking. Or being a part of a gallery and watching golf while downing beers. Then again, I don't drink, so maybe that is why I don't get it.

 

Drinking alcohol lowers inhibition. It's pretty excellent. For those of us who hate ourselves, it presents a cheap, easy

way to practice escapism and experience happiness for a short period of time. Unfortunately, perpetual drunkedness is

not physiologically possible.

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LOL at post #87 :)

 

I did forget to add that golf almost drove me to take up drinking. Usually a pretty relaxed kind of guy, I get tense and anxious on the course. If you saw my swing, you'd understand why. I thought catching a light buzz might help and seriously considered taking a nip from a flask every few holes to see if it would mellow me out.

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Guys, moderation is preferred, if you are staying at said resort, I don't find it a big issue. Please, settle down, those who claim to wear halos and are against it. DWI's are not fun and I have been around people who have had them, and no I don't condone driving drunk, but if some people like to drink it up, hey it's their 40-50 dollars, if they'd rather get smashed, let them, plus they are risking their livelihood.

 

This post's intention was merely a question, and certainly doesn't need to be a second coming of prohibition. If you don't chose to be a part of this thread, we don't need to hear you justify as to why you don't drink, hate drinking, or have no use for it. We realize that you may have had heartaches, at the expense of irresponsible morons, but again this post was intended to ask who drinks and what they drink. Relax and take a few deep breaths. I drink on the course and enjoy myself. For every 4 rounds during the month, I drink like 2. The other 2 I'm either with my father-in-law who doesn't drink or with my another foursome who play for money.

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Guys, moderation is preferred, if you are staying at said resort, I don't find it a big issue. Please, settle down, those who claim to wear halos and are against it. DWI's are not fun and I have been around people who have had them, and no I don't condone driving drunk, but if some people like to drink it up, hey it's their 40-50 dollars, if they'd rather get smashed, let them, plus they are risking their livelihood.

 

This post's intention was merely a question, and certainly doesn't need to be a second coming of prohibition. If you don't chose to be a part of this thread, we don't need to hear you justify as to why you don't drink, hate drinking, or have no use for it. We realize that you may have had heartaches, at the expense of irresponsible morons, but again this post was intended to ask who drinks and what they drink. Relax and take a few deep breaths. I drink on the course and enjoy myself. For every 4 rounds during the month, I drink like 2. The other 2 I'm either with my father-in-law who doesn't drink or with my another foursome who play for money.

Tough to stuff the toothpaste back into the tube, isn't it? Some writers need to heed the counsel of that noted philosopher Iggy Pop who said - "Nihilism is best done by professionals."

 

The problem you and others have encountered within this thread is that, at least in my humble opinion, juvenile and/or dysfunctional behavior such as those described in this thread engender some pretty strong snap-back. Invoking some dime-store version of libertarianism doesn't hold much water, does it? It flies into a pretty strong headwind of collective experience. It can't be dismissed with a wave of the hand. The truth, bitter as it is, is that society will not allow hedonism to be divorced from its consequences. Public drunkenness carries too much baggage. It isn't fun; it's tragic. It isn't a liberty; it's license. That license has been revoked.

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Guys, moderation is preferred, if you are staying at said resort, I don't find it a big issue. Please, settle down, those who claim to wear halos and are against it. DWI's are not fun and I have been around people who have had them, and no I don't condone driving drunk, but if some people like to drink it up, hey it's their 40-50 dollars, if they'd rather get smashed, let them, plus they are risking their livelihood.

 

This post's intention was merely a question, and certainly doesn't need to be a second coming of prohibition. If you don't chose to be a part of this thread, we don't need to hear you justify as to why you don't drink, hate drinking, or have no use for it. We realize that you may have had heartaches, at the expense of irresponsible morons, but again this post was intended to ask who drinks and what they drink. Relax and take a few deep breaths. I drink on the course and enjoy myself. For every 4 rounds during the month, I drink like 2. The other 2 I'm either with my father-in-law who doesn't drink or with my another foursome who play for money.

Tough to stuff the toothpaste back into the tube, isn't it? Some writers need to heed the counsel of that noted philosopher Iggy Pop who said - "Nihilism is best done by professionals."

 

The problem you and others have encountered within this thread is that, at least in my humble opinion, juvenile and/or dysfunctional behavior such as those described in this thread engender some pretty strong snap-back. Invoking some dime-store version of libertarianism doesn't hold much water, does it? It flies into a pretty strong headwind of collective experience. It can't be dismissed with a wave of the hand. The truth, bitter as it is, is that society will not allow hedonism to be divorced from its consequences. Public drunkenness carries too much baggage. It isn't fun; it's tragic. It isn't a liberty; it's license. That license has been revoked.

 

 

It sounds like somebody could use a drink.

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