Titleist 913 Drivers! D2 & D3 Models w/ headcovers- EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW & PICS!

[Yellow Jacket]

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[quote name='emfish11' timestamp='1345124292' post='5482040']
I hit it yesterday...and it feels a lot better than the 910 to me. There was a big difference in spin and the ball rolled forever compared to my 910. I fell in love with club.
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I assume you mean a lot lower spin vs. 910. How about launch angle? I have a 910 D3 at 7.75* with a low launch/low spin Project X and I still hit the ball way to high with too much spin (and only about 108 SS).

I really liked the 910, but only if it launched lower and had a lot less spin. Do you think 913 will deliver this, with the same playability?
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If you're hitting that setup too high with a 108 SS, the fault is with your swing, not the club.

[stk123]

Have you ever considerer that I might have a really high angle of attack (like Bubba does) or that I may be 6'5" and have a naturally steep swing? There are many factors that come in to play and it is not necessarily a swing fault; especially since I am virtually a scratch golfer and a really good ball striker. My swing speed could be higher though, since I haven't measured in a while and I worked out a lot.

I can hit that combo with perfect trajectory (and it happens so every once in a while), but I prefer to hit up on the ball because it is more consistent and natural for me.

90% of wrx'ers love the 910, but the other 10% also said that the head launches the ball way to high with too much spin.

[Yellow Jacket]

[color=#282828]If you have a steep swing, you are not hitting up on it. The whole point of a "steep" swing is a descending AoA. On the other hand, if you're hitting up on it, your spin shouldn't be "too high." Bubba hits up on the ball but he also has 1700rpm backspin. There's no need to get defensive; after all, you're only scratch. The PX is not a low spin as some other options (notably the Ahina) and you may not be playing a stiff enough shaft, but the clubhead is almost certainly not at fault here. [/color]

[chocoboy]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1345401419' post='5498936']
[quote name='emfish11' timestamp='1345124292' post='5482040']
I hit it yesterday...and it feels a lot better than the 910 to me. There was a big difference in spin and the ball rolled forever compared to my 910. I fell in love with club.
[/quote]

I assume you mean a lot lower spin vs. 910. How about launch angle? I have a 910 D3 at 7.75* with a low launch/low spin Project X and I still hit the ball way to high with too much spin (and only about 108 SS).

I really liked the 910, but only if it launched lower and had a lot less spin. Do you think 913 will deliver this, with the same playability?
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Which project X are you using? 6.0 or 6.5? What weight? I also thought the project X shaft is a bit spinny compared to other shaft with the same specs.

[stk123]

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[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1345401419' post='5498936']
[quote name='emfish11' timestamp='1345124292' post='5482040']
I hit it yesterday...and it feels a lot better than the 910 to me. There was a big difference in spin and the ball rolled forever compared to my 910. I fell in love with club.
[/quote]

I assume you mean a lot lower spin vs. 910. How about launch angle? I have a 910 D3 at 7.75* with a low launch/low spin Project X and I still hit the ball way to high with too much spin (and only about 108 SS).

I really liked the 910, but only if it launched lower and had a lot less spin. Do you think 913 will deliver this, with the same playability?
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Which project X are you using? 6.0 or 6.5? What weight? I also thought the project X shaft is a bit spinny compared to other shaft with the same specs.
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I am using the Project X 7B3, which is the equivalent of 6.5 in Wood shafts. This is for swing speeds between 105-110, which was supposed to fit me perfectly. It is like a strong flex or weak x-stiff (in between stiff and x-stiff) - note that the 6.5 in irons is a lot stiffer than woods.

I really wanted a 7A3 shaft, but many posters on here talked about it being for people that swing around 115, I was below 110.

I don't think that the problem is with the shaft, but rather the head. I have a Cobra S9.1 Pro-D at 8.5* with harrison Saga (not as low spin as Project X supposedly) and have no problem with spin at all. If anything it spins too little. 8.5* with mid launch shaft goes a lot lower than a 7.75* with low launch shaft. It is a spinny head and there is many GolfWRX guys that agree with me.

[stk123]

[quote name='Yellow Jacket' timestamp='1345414284' post='5499686']
[color=#282828]If you have a steep swing, you are not hitting up on it. The whole point of a "steep" swing is a descending AoA. On the other hand, if you're hitting up on it, your spin shouldn't be "too high." Bubba hits up on the ball but he also has 1700rpm backspin. There's no need to get defensive; after all, you're only scratch. The PX is not a low spin as some other options (notably the Ahina) and you may not be playing a stiff enough shaft, but the clubhead is almost certainly not at fault here. [/color]
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I get defensive, because I see this type of answer (i.e. you need to change your swing not clubs, blah blah blah) comes up way too often here and is kind of annoying and counterproductive to discussion.

My bigger issue with the clubhead is that it launches too high. If it spun in the low 2000's for me with my launch 14* - 17* then it would be perfect. But it spins closer to 3000. Note: these are my guestimates base on my demo with a 9.5* with 7C3.

[station2station]

Gary Woodland isn't experiencing excessive spin and distance loss with his 910d3 and RIP shaft:


[color=#67859F][size=2][b]GARY WOODLAND - 2012 STATS[/b][/size][/color]
[url="http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?101"]Driving Distance[/url] Avg distance- 300.7 ranking-19th

[Lesmond]

[Yellow Jacket]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1345434299' post='5501346']
[quote name='Yellow Jacket' timestamp='1345414284' post='5499686']
[color=#282828]If you have a steep swing, you are not hitting up on it. The whole point of a "steep" swing is a descending AoA. On the other hand, if you're hitting up on it, your spin shouldn't be "too high." Bubba hits up on the ball but he also has 1700rpm backspin. There's no need to get defensive; after all, you're only scratch. The PX is not a low spin as some other options (notably the Ahina) and you may not be playing a stiff enough shaft, but the clubhead is almost certainly not at fault here. [/color]
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I get defensive, because I see this type of answer (i.e. you need to change your swing not clubs, blah blah blah) comes up way too often here and is kind of annoying and counterproductive to discussion.

My bigger issue with the clubhead is that it launches too high. If it spun in the low 2000's for me with my launch 14* - 17* then it would be perfect. But it spins closer to 3000. Note: these are my guestimates base on my demo with a 9.5* with 7C3.
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[color=#282828]Ah, that's your problem right there. The PX 7C3 graphite is equivalent to a PX 5.5 steel, which is equivalent to a S300. I have a 108-110mph SS and I would have no chance controlling a 7C3.[/color]

[color=#282828]Wait, didn't you say you have a 910 D3 at 7.75*? The 9.5* can only go down to 8.75*. Unless you mean you only have launch numbers for a 9.5* w/7C3 and you bought an 8.5* that you've tuned to 7.75*, in which case the launch/spin numbers should be quite a bit different and you may, in fact, be getting good numbers; most people don't know what a good ballflight actually looks like.[/color]

[color=#282828]Regardless, a 7C3 is too weak for you.[/color]

[JR Van]

So with the shafts, if the D+ 72 is stock will the 62 be available with no up charge, being just a custom order?

[Lesmond]

more here:
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/715218-pics-2012-titleist-913-fairway-woods-and-hybrids-from-the-barclays/

[stk123]

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[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1345434299' post='5501346']
[quote name='Yellow Jacket' timestamp='1345414284' post='5499686']
[color=#282828]If you have a steep swing, you are not hitting up on it. The whole point of a "steep" swing is a descending AoA. On the other hand, if you're hitting up on it, your spin shouldn't be "too high." Bubba hits up on the ball but he also has 1700rpm backspin. There's no need to get defensive; after all, you're only scratch. The PX is not a low spin as some other options (notably the Ahina) and you may not be playing a stiff enough shaft, but the clubhead is almost certainly not at fault here. [/color]
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I get defensive, because I see this type of answer (i.e. you need to change your swing not clubs, blah blah blah) comes up way too often here and is kind of annoying and counterproductive to discussion.

My bigger issue with the clubhead is that it launches too high. If it spun in the low 2000's for me with my launch 14* - 17* then it would be perfect. But it spins closer to 3000. Note: these are my guestimates base on my demo with a 9.5* with 7C3.
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[color=#282828]Ah, that's your problem right there. The PX 7C3 graphite is equivalent to a PX 5.5 steel, which is equivalent to a S300. I have a 108-110mph SS and I would have no chance controlling a 7C3.[/color]

[color=#282828]Wait, didn't you say you have a 910 D3 at 7.75*? The 9.5* can only go down to 8.75*. Unless you mean you only have launch numbers for a 9.5* w/7C3 and you bought an 8.5* that you've tuned to 7.75*, in which case the launch/spin numbers should be quite a bit different and you may, in fact, be getting good numbers; most people don't know what a good ballflight actually looks like.[/color]

[color=#282828]Regardless, a 7C3 is too weak for you.[/color]
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The 9.5 7C3 numbers were when I did my fitting. I had slightly under 3000 rpms and 14-17* launch angle, but more importantly I hit the ball straight. So I thought an 8.5* with 7B3 would bring my launch down a couple degrees and my spin down towards 2500. Angle of descent was coming in at the high 40's, but I thought that I could sacrifice a bit of distance for more accuracy.

I really like the club and I hit it pretty straight on most days, but I feel like I have been doing a ton of yoga since my fitting and my swing speed has gone up a little and probably launch angle and spin as well.

The problem I have is that I live in windy central Texas and I lose a lot of distance into the wind, as well as control with a side wind. On windless days or down wind it is perfect, but those only happen less than half the time.

It might be my swing, but I think it has more to do with my height (or maybe wrong shaft?), or maybe it is the windy weather, that makes me think I hit it too high. I am happy with my swing and I am not doing any more swing changes, so I will look for equipment to fit me instead; and I know that there are better heads for ME.

[stk123]

[quote name='station2station' timestamp='1345475045' post='5502994']
Gary Woodland isn't experiencing excessive spin and distance loss with his 910d3 and RIP shaft:


[color=#67859F][size=2][b]GARY WOODLAND - 2012 STATS[/b][/size][/color]
[url="http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?101"]Driving Distance[/url] Avg distance- 300.7 ranking-19th
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Not saying that this is case, but just maybe he adds a little bit of hotmelt in certain areas to achieve better launch conditions. Maybe he has a lower spinning shaft than I do. Or maybe he was simply fit by some of the best fitters in the world, using some of the best equipment to find a perfect combination that perfectly fits him. I am sure that if I had access to the Titleist Tour Van that they could make the club work for me as well.

Also, I thought Gary Woodland was supposed to be top 5 in driving distance and not 19th.

[Instant Offense]

Hit them today. Awesome clubs. The new MRC shaft plays like a whiteboard but has much better feel. These will be huge much like the 910.

[Big Ben]

I'm counting the days on this bad boy, still haven't found a better driver than my 910D3, magical stick just not the longest driver out there. Give me a litter hotter face in the 913 and I don't care if it's identical to the 910 I'm sold...BB

[masegolf1978]

To the extent anyone can confirm anything on a club that hasn't been released yet, any more news on the diamana +'s. Can we say with relatively certainty that they will be the real deal as opposed to "made for Titleist"? Thinking about pulling the trigger on a whiteboard with a 910 tip today, so any quick answers are appreciated.

[golflifer]

[quote name='masegolf1978' timestamp='1346010124' post='5537941']
To the extent anyone can confirm anything on a club that hasn't been released yet, any more news on the diamana +'s. Can we say with relatively certainty that they will be the real deal as opposed to "made for Titleist"? Thinking about pulling the trigger on a whiteboard with a 910 tip today, so any quick answers are appreciated.
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100% real deal

[station2station]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1345683694' post='5518878']
[quote name='station2station' timestamp='1345475045' post='5502994']
Gary Woodland isn't experiencing excessive spin and distance loss with his 910d3 and RIP shaft:


[color=#67859F][size=2][b]GARY WOODLAND - 2012 STATS[/b][/size][/color]
[url="http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?101"]Driving Distance[/url] Avg distance- 300.7 ranking-19th
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Not saying that this is case, but just maybe he adds a little bit of hotmelt in certain areas to achieve better launch conditions. Maybe he has a lower spinning shaft than I do. Or maybe he was simply fit by some of the best fitters in the world, using some of the best equipment to find a perfect combination that perfectly fits him. I am sure that if I had access to the Titleist Tour Van that they could make the club work for me as well.

Also, I thought Gary Woodland was supposed to be top 5 in driving distance and not 19th.
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19th - you can click the hotlink above called "Driving Distance" to see rankings. And Gary's RIP-80x is available at your local PGA Superstore.

I don't spin my 910d3 more than 2500. And I'm using a stock offered shaft. You're probably steep.

I'm just saying that a lot of players I know use this driver with no issues. A lot of great players. It's a Hotlist GOLD driver.

Back to the topic at hand.

[stk123]

Just to conclude this off-topic talk about my 910 D3 experience:

Just bought an Adams Fast 12 LS at 8.5* with a Oban Black Kiyoshi 65X and I hit low piercing bullets with low spin and it lands with lots of roll. I have hit it on the range three days and played 18 and I can certainly say that the problem was the driver (910 D3, 7.75* with Project X 7B3 shaft) and not the swing mechanics (the player, i.e. me). I probably hit the Adams too low, but that is what I wanted in windy Central Texas.

My 910 D3 set to 7.75* with a Project X would launch too high for me with probably a little too much spin and too high an angle of decent.

As a side note, I let my buddy borrow the D3 and he said it hits low knuckle balls for him at that setting (he plays a low draw though). Different strokes for different folks, but the 910 D3 is definitely not one of the lowest spinning heads out there. It is a great club, but just not for me. It would work good for 90% of golfers, but I have seen several WRX'ers also say that the head spins too much.

[stk123]

After all, that is probably why Titleist decided to release the 7.5* 910 in March of this year; because the heads launched too high and spun too much for some golfers.

[Yellow Jacket]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1346213360' post='5553005']
Just to conclude this off-topic talk about my 910 D3 experience:

Just bought an Adams Fast 12 LS at 8.5* with a Oban Black Kiyoshi 65X and I hit low piercing bullets with low spin and it lands with lots of roll. I have hit it on the range three days and played 18 and I can certainly say that the problem was the driver (910 D3, 7.75* with Project X 7B3 shaft) and not the swing mechanics (the player, i.e. me). I probably hit the Adams too low, but that is what I wanted in windy Central Texas.

My 910 D3 set to 7.75* with a Project X would launch too high for me with probably a little too much spin and too high an angle of decent.

As a side note, I let my buddy borrow the D3 and he said it hits low knuckle balls for him at that setting (he plays a low draw though). Different strokes for different folks, but the 910 D3 is definitely not one of the lowest spinning heads out there. It is a great club, but just not for me. It would work good for 90% of golfers, but I have seen several WRX'ers also say that the head spins too much.
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Why are you comparing apples to oranges here? Your Adams went low because of the shaft. The Oban Black is basically the lowest spinning/lowest lauching shaft out there, and the Project X isn't even the lowest spin/launch stock option for the 910 D3.

[station2station]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1346213360' post='5553005']
Just to conclude this off-topic talk about my 910 D3 experience:

Just bought an Adams Fast 12 LS at 8.5* with a Oban Black Kiyoshi 65X and I hit low piercing bullets with low spin and it lands with lots of roll. I have hit it on the range three days and played 18 and I can certainly say that the problem was the driver (910 D3, 7.75* with Project X 7B3 shaft) and not the swing mechanics (the player, i.e. me). I probably hit the Adams too low, but that is what I wanted in windy Central Texas.

My 910 D3 set to 7.75* with a Project X would launch too high for me with probably a little too much spin and too high an angle of decent.

As a side note, I let my buddy borrow the D3 and he said it hits low knuckle balls for him at that setting (he plays a low draw though). Different strokes for different folks, but the 910 D3 is definitely not one of the lowest spinning heads out there. It is a great club, but just not for me. It would work good for 90% of golfers, but I have seen several WRX'ers also say that the head spins too much.
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You're right man. 910 is not the lowest spinning head available. That's why Titleist is talking a lot about the improved spin characteristics of the 913 in their early youtube videos and promo material. I don't spin my 8.5 A1 head though - but I put a "Phil" move on my tee ball - a touch of hang back and I play an 8.5 head with a RIP(considered a low loft comparatively, and an advertised low spin shaft). Maybe why it works for me. I do find it troubling that you are overspinning a delofted 8.5 driver! (7.75). But I didn't have a whole heap of success with that Px 7B3 either.

Regardless I think we're all excited about the 913 product.

Cheers.

[Kentsp1]

just cracked my 9064LS. 913D3 8.5 with a D+ X might be in my future!

[Lesmond]

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[JR Van]

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Great info, it concerned me when he said higher launch conditions, considering this might screw up a lot of people what to transfer from the 913 and get the same launch angle. Well, 6 yards longer sounds nice, but it's no"17" lol

[Bob57]

According to the Golf Wire article availability is November 1, 2012. Looks like 7.5 will be available from the start this time for RH.

http://www.thegolfwire.com/stories/268116

[JaxBeachNole]

great info.

[CongoTerp]

Buddy attended a Titleist Demo day last weekend at a club up the road from mine, and he said the whole place went ape-shitz over the 913 and alot of folks placed orders. I'm just reading this thread for the first time, and I also feel that my 9.5 910D3 imparts too much spin, I change settings every week to try different variations. The pictures in the 1st post of this thread were taken at my club and I went to the pros yesterday and asked them if they could get Titleist to come and do a demoday for us in time to get an order placed in time for November delivery!

[Stetson]

Have the custom shaft options list been made available yet? I'd love to see the new shaft chart and which shafts will have to be ordered "off menu".

[andef]

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Have the custom shaft options list been made available yet? I'd love to see the new shaft chart and which shafts will have to be ordered "off menu".
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At the moment, only the summer 2012 custom options are available on their site. Hopefully the new options will be uploaded sometime before the release of the driver.