PING Anser Irons – Story, Video, and Pictures Inside!

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='igman' timestamp='1343752059' post='5384272']
Has any learned more about the PXi option? Why it isn't included, and if not, what the upgrade charge is?
[/quote]

I thought that there was no up charge for any shaft with the Anser irons. I thought somebody posted that if I'm not mistaken.

[SheriffBooth]

PXi is the only shaft with an upcharge, according to Ping. Everything else in their catalog is available at not additional cost. I don't know why PXi isn't included.

[2011USAMPlayer]

[quote name='Sean25rp' timestamp='1343334150' post='5359856']
[quote name='SheriffBooth' timestamp='1343331833' post='5359594']
Ping says that all shaft options listed on their site, other than PXi, are available to Anser iron buyers at no upcharge. This would include C-Tapers and Modus 3's.
[/quote]

People seem to be missing this point.
[/quote]
I dont see anywhere on the site it says this!!!

[SheriffBooth]

It is what bjackson and I were told directly by Ping. We have both confirmed it.

[2011USAMPlayer]

[quote name='SheriffBooth' timestamp='1343760902' post='5385066']
It is what bjackson and I were told directly by Ping. We have both confirmed it.
[/quote]
That is from Ping, that would not stop Golf Smith or Golf Galaxy from charging you. I just tried and they wan't 30 dollars more per club for the c tapers.

[SheriffBooth]

[size=4]Call Ping's customer service number - [color=#333333][background=rgb(251, 251, 251)]1-800-474-6434. Ping dictates their prices to Golfsmith, not the other way around.[/background][/color][/size]

[2011USAMPlayer]

[color=#222222]Can you believe I called Golf Smith to custom order the Ping Anser Irons. I was flat out lied to by the rep. 2 times and a supervisor once. Rxxxx the rep said he called Ping to verify and was confirmed that they have an up charge on all shafts. I then called back to speak with a supervisor who reiterated that the previous rep called and confirmed it's standard from Ping to upcharge. I made it very clear that web sites and trusted sources, Including Ping Video on their web site state no additional Upcharge for premium shafts. The issue I have here is when Rxxxx the rep, called Ping, he did so when they were not open. I proceeded to inform the supervisor Mxxx, of this and said they have a special thing with Ping to call early. I asked for that special number and waited for ping to open and had to leave a message, I was able confirme that there is NO UPCHARGE for any shaft except the PXi. I called back a 4 time and got Gill, AMAZING person, he called verified the same took my name and phone and will have the supervisor call me back. I am awaiting a return call from this supervisor to see what they will do. [/color]

[Instant Offense]

Just placed my order with my rep. 3-pw w/ c taper stiff and there was no upcharge on my PUD. Also got the driver with the Ahina x at 45" and D2.

[Vegaman]

[quote name='michaeldaca' timestamp='1343242678' post='5352210']
omfg i want them. i love my i15's - i was going to have a set of miura cb 501's built but now i dunno...might be waiting for these to come out....
[/quote]

The Ansers are nothing like the CB-501s. The Pings are huge in comparison, wide sole and a lot of offset. so pretty much the total opposite in terms of design. The CB-501s are almost blade-like looking down on them. The Ansers are actually GI looking.

[TheMackDaddy]

Off topic a bit but can someone confirm that the fairway shafts are not an additional upcharge for the choices they offer?

[bjackson]

[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343877200' post='5393960']
[quote name='michaeldaca' timestamp='1343242678' post='5352210']
omfg i want them. i love my i15's - i was going to have a set of miura cb 501's built but now i dunno...might be waiting for these to come out....
[/quote]

The Ansers are nothing like the CB-501s. The Pings are huge in comparison, wide sole and a lot of offset. so pretty much the total opposite in terms of design. The CB-501s are almost blade-like looking down on them. The Ansers are actually GI looking.
[/quote]

I don't know how to say this without coming off as an a$$hole, but seriously, STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION. The Anser irons DO NOT have a wide sole and they DO NOT have a lot of offset.

Below is a list of the offset for the [color=#ff0000]Ansers[/color] and the [color=#0000ff]CB-501s[/color].

[color=#ff0000]Anser 3 iron ----- .21"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 3 Iron -- .13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 4 iron ----- .18"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 4 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 5 iron ----- .15"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 5 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 6 iron ----- .12"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 6 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 7 iron ----- .10"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 7 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 8 iron ----- .07"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 8 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 9 iron ----- .06"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 9 Iron -- . 09"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser Wedge --- .04"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 Wedge - .05"[/color]

[bjackson]

[quote name='TheMackDaddy' timestamp='1343877729' post='5394020']
Off topic a bit but can someone confirm that the fairway shafts are not an additional upcharge for the choices they offer?
[/quote]

I'm not sure about that one as I believe the only stock shaft option is the PING TFC proprietary (one helluva shaft if I may add). A good question, and far from off topic, that would be more fitting in the following thread... http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/700650-ping-anser-driver-fairways-and-hybrids-%26-8211%3B-story-videos-and-pictures-inside/

[TheMackDaddy]

[quote name='bjackson' timestamp='1343880070' post='5394250']
[quote name='TheMackDaddy' timestamp='1343877729' post='5394020']
Off topic a bit but can someone confirm that the fairway shafts are not an additional upcharge for the choices they offer?
[/quote]

I'm not sure about that one as I believe the only stock shaft option is the PING TFC proprietary (one helluva shaft if I may add). A good question, and far from off topic, that would be more fitting in the following thread... [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/700650-ping-anser-driver-fairways-and-hybrids-%26-8211%3B-story-videos-and-pictures-inside/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ictures-inside/[/url]
[/quote]
Thanks man!

[scratchswinger]

[quote name='bjackson' timestamp='1343879922' post='5394238']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343877200' post='5393960']
[quote name='michaeldaca' timestamp='1343242678' post='5352210']
omfg i want them. i love my i15's - i was going to have a set of miura cb 501's built but now i dunno...might be waiting for these to come out....
[/quote]

The Ansers are nothing like the CB-501s. The Pings are huge in comparison, wide sole and a lot of offset. so pretty much the total opposite in terms of design. The CB-501s are almost blade-like looking down on them. The Ansers are actually GI looking.
[/quote]

I don't know how to say this without coming off as an a$$hole, but seriously, STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION. The Anser irons DO NOT have a wide sole and they DO NOT have a lot of offset.

Below is a list of the offset for the [color=#ff0000]Ansers[/color] and the [color=#0000ff]CB-501s[/color].

[color=#ff0000]Anser 3 iron ----- .21"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 3 Iron -- .13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 4 iron ----- .18"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 4 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 5 iron ----- .15"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 5 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 6 iron ----- .12"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 6 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 7 iron ----- .10"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 7 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 8 iron ----- .07"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 8 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 9 iron ----- .06"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 9 Iron -- . 09"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser Wedge --- .04"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 Wedge - .05"[/color]
[/quote]

I think many of the posters claiming that the Ansers are GI with tons of offset are basing it off the previous Ansers. Seriously I doubt if many of these guys have even hit the new models.

[bjackson]

[quote name='scratchswinger' timestamp='1343885804' post='5394580']
[quote name='bjackson' timestamp='1343879922' post='5394238']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343877200' post='5393960']

The Ansers are nothing like the CB-501s. The Pings are huge in comparison, wide sole and a lot of offset. so pretty much the total opposite in terms of design. The CB-501s are almost blade-like looking down on them. The Ansers are actually GI looking.
[/quote]

I don't know how to say this without coming off as an a$$hole, but seriously, STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION. The Anser irons DO NOT have a wide sole and they DO NOT have a lot of offset.

Below is a list of the offset for the [color=#ff0000]Ansers[/color] and the [color=#0000ff]CB-501s[/color].

[color=#ff0000]Anser 3 iron ----- .21"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 3 Iron -- .13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 4 iron ----- .18"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 4 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 5 iron ----- .15"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 5 Iron --.13"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 6 iron ----- .12"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 6 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 7 iron ----- .10"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 7 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 8 iron ----- .07"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 8 Iron -- .11"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser 9 iron ----- .06"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 9 Iron -- . 09"[/color]
[color=#ff0000]Anser Wedge --- .04"[/color]
[color=#0000ff]CB-501 Wedge - .05"[/color]
[/quote]

I think many of the posters claiming that the Ansers are GI with tons of offset are basing it off the previous Ansers. Seriously I doubt if many of these guys have even hit the new models.
[/quote]

Agreed, that is most likely the case. That said, making assumptions and stating FALSE claims is NOT okay ESPECIALLY when I, someone who has seen, handled, and hit these clubs has said otherwise (multiple times throughout this thread).

[SheriffBooth]

[quote name='2011USAMPlayer' timestamp='1343852534' post='5391724']
Can you believe I called Golf Smith to custom order the Ping Anser Irons. I was flat out lied to by the rep. 2 times and a supervisor once. Rxxxx the rep said he called Ping to verify and was confirmed that they have an up charge on all shafts. I then called back to speak with a supervisor who reiterated that the previous rep called and confirmed it's standard from Ping to upcharge. I made it very clear that web sites and trusted sources, Including Ping Video on their web site state no additional Upcharge for premium shafts. The issue I have here is when Rxxxx the rep, called Ping, he did so when they were not open. I proceeded to inform the supervisor Mxxx, of this and said they have a special thing with Ping to call early. I asked for that special number and waited for ping to open and had to leave a message, I was able confirme that there is NO UPCHARGE for any shaft except the PXi. I called back a 4 time and got Gill, AMAZING person, he called verified the same took my name and phone and will have the supervisor call me back. I am awaiting a return call from this supervisor to see what they will do.
[/quote]

Glad you got it cleared up. Really poor treatment by the store and the supposed Ping rep.

[Tiemco]

[quote name='mtnbiker5' timestamp='1343332259' post='5359636']
No one has yet to answer the question as to why these clubs are $1500. I'd seriously like to see how they really stack up against the AP2's in a test.
[/quote]

This is my guess. First off, the metal they are using is more expensive, both the steel and the tungsten. Second, it's a harder metal, so the forging process is probably a bit different (i.e. more costly) than standard carbon steel. The shape of the forging probably results in more forging steps than a standard blade. I believe that metal needs to be tempered after forging, and I'm assuming there is more handwork involved with the finished product. Also, people who play Pings are stupid and will buy anything Ping regardless of price (JK ping players, relax.)

[Vegaman]

In the side by side photos of the new and the old anser the new one for sure has a wider sole than the old one. And if there isn't considerable offset in photo no 4 starting from the top I must be seeing things.

[Vegaman]

[quote name='Tiemco' timestamp='1343918176' post='5395908']
[quote name='mtnbiker5' timestamp='1343332259' post='5359636']
No one has yet to answer the question as to why these clubs are $1500. I'd seriously like to see how they really stack up against the AP2's in a test.
[/quote]

This is my guess. First off, the metal they are using is more expensive, both the steel and the tungsten. Second, it's a harder metal, so the forging process is probably a bit different (i.e. more costly) than standard carbon steel. The shape of the forging probably results in more forging steps than a standard blade. I believe that metal needs to be tempered after forging, and I'm assuming there is more handwork involved with the finished product. Also, people who play Pings are stupid and will buy anything Ping regardless of price (JK ping players, relax.)
[/quote]

These are 8620 so therefore I'm pretty sure they are what cleveland called "form forged" that is, not really forged at all, but cast and then final shape pressed. Under much less pressure than a real forging. It's a cheaper process than a "real" forging using 1020 or 1025 from Endo, miura or Kyoei for sure.

To stamp "forged" on these is a little incorrect, they are not one peice forgings that most people think of when they think of a forged club., that is, a billet of steel being hit several times by a very heavy press. The intricate (if there are a lot of cavities in the design) details would then have to be milled out of the clubhead. This would be a superior method but of course a lot more expensive.

[tigerfan23]

Has anyone hit these irons yet?? Between the 56s and i20s would be just fricken perfect and Im becomming somewhat of a ping slappy.
I don't know why PX is stock??? Should be S300 as PX is love it or hate it and I think most hate. I do anyways.
I can hit a demo set when they come out but it would be PX so hard to get a true feel as I would order these with s300.

[bjackson]

[quote name='closetoscratch' timestamp='1343921581' post='5396264']
Has anyone hit these irons yet?? Between the 56s and i20s would be just fricken perfect and Im becomming somewhat of a ping slappy.
I don't know why PX is stock??? Should be S300 as PX is love it or hate it and I think most hate. I do anyways.
I can hit a demo set when they come out but it would be PX so hard to get a true feel as I would order these with s300.
[/quote]

Yes, I've hit them and made the statement that they fit between i20 and S56. Also you can order them with ANY SHAFT offered by PING WRX without an upcharge, aside from PXi.

[SheriffBooth]

[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343921266' post='5396226']
These are 8620 so therefore I'm pretty sure they are what cleveland called "form forged" that is, not really forged at all, but cast and then final shape pressed. Under much less pressure than a real forging. It's a cheaper process than a "real" forging using 1020 or 1025 from Endo, miura or Kyoei for sure.

To stamp "forged" on these is a little incorrect, they are not one peice forgings that most people think of when they think of a forged club., that is, a billet of steel being hit several times by a very heavy press. The intricate (if there are a lot of cavities in the design) details would then have to be milled out of the clubhead. This would be a superior method but of course a lot more expensive.
[/quote]

This is false. Ping confirmed on the previous Anser iron that the 8620 billet is press forged and then the tungsten is added to the sole and the cavity and grooves are milled.

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBYGJga--HQ[/media]

[bjackson]

[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343921266' post='5396226']
[quote name='Tiemco' timestamp='1343918176' post='5395908']
[quote name='mtnbiker5' timestamp='1343332259' post='5359636']
No one has yet to answer the question as to why these clubs are $1500. I'd seriously like to see how they really stack up against the AP2's in a test.
[/quote]

This is my guess. First off, the metal they are using is more expensive, both the steel and the tungsten. Second, it's a harder metal, so the forging process is probably a bit different (i.e. more costly) than standard carbon steel. The shape of the forging probably results in more forging steps than a standard blade. I believe that metal needs to be tempered after forging, and I'm assuming there is more handwork involved with the finished product. Also, people who play Pings are stupid and will buy anything Ping regardless of price (JK ping players, relax.)
[/quote]

These are 8620 so therefore I'm pretty sure they are what cleveland called "form forged" that is, not really forged at all, but cast and then final shape pressed. Under much less pressure than a real forging. It's a cheaper process than a "real" forging using 1020 or 1025 from Endo, miura or Kyoei for sure.

To stamp "forged" on these is a little incorrect, they are not one peice forgings that most people think of when they think of a forged club., that is, a billet of steel being hit several times by a very heavy press. The intricate (if there are a lot of cavities in the design) details would then have to be milled out of the clubhead. This would be a superior method but of course a lot more expensive.
[/quote]

Again, please stop posting incorrect information. This thread was started to inform and answer questions. This is a not a place for speculation, especially from someone who hasn't even seen, hit, nor is aware of the technology used to create these clubs.

[eerogolf]

Work at a course with a PING Account and just tried to order a set with C-Tapers shafts in them. They where going to charge us extra per club as she said this is not a standard shafts for this model.

[scratchswinger]

Bjackson- have you guys considered deleting the posts that are flat our wrong? Many people will refer to this thread for future reference and may not take the time to read everything. Thus they will base their opinions off faulty information.

[dave willie]

I think the new Ansers look great. They definitely have a family resemblance to the i20s. However, I just got i20s about three months ago and I am finally starting to hit them consistently. I will try out the Ansers but I seriously doubt that I will change, now that the i20s are treating me well.

How often do you "club ho" folks change irons, and how long before you see better results? I play once or twice a week and it takes me several months to get used to a new set. Every time I change irons my handicap increases by at least a stroke or two until I start to shoot low scores again. I'm finally headed back down to my previous normal range of 3.0 to 4.0 after >3 months with the i20s. The goal is obviously to be better than I was with the previous set...

[gopherguts]

[quote name='SheriffBooth' timestamp='1343922626' post='5396398']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1343921266' post='5396226']
These are 8620 so therefore I'm pretty sure they are what cleveland called [b]"form forged"[/b] that is, not really forged at all, but cast and [b]then final shape pressed[/b]. Under much less pressure than a real forging. It's a cheaper process than a "real" forging using 1020 or 1025 from Endo, miura or Kyoei for sure.

To stamp "forged" on these is a little incorrect, they are not one peice forgings that most people think of when they think of a forged club., that is, a billet of steel being hit several times by a very heavy press. The intricate (if there are a lot of cavities in the design) details would then have to be milled out of the clubhead. This would be a superior method but of course a lot more expensive.
[/quote]

[b]This is false.[/b] Ping confirmed on the previous Anser iron that the 8620 billet is press forged and then the tungsten is added to the sole and the cavity and grooves are milled.

[/quote]

What is false ?

I watched your video and it sounds like what Vegaman said. A hot molten steel pressed by a very heavy weight.

[SheriffBooth]

Vegaman stated that he was "pretty sure" the Anser are "form forged", which involves initially casting the head by pouring molten metal into a form. That statement is false.

His second paragraph describes "real" forging, which is exactly what happens with the forging of the Anser irons, as shown in the Ping video.

[albatrosser]

I think someone from Ping must have peed in Vegaman's cereal at some point. He clearly has a proverbial "hard-on" for Ping to the point that he's willing to talk out of his behind and look like a complete fool with his lack of knowledge.

You hate Ping, we get it. Gret help for your anger and vendetta with them

As for why someone would pick the new Ansers over the AP2's?? That goes to personal taste I suppose. I've hit every model to date of the AP2's and have yet to find one that has any sort of feel to it at all, IMO. They feel NOTHING like any forged iron I've ever played, instead they feel like mush. If the Ansers feel like the Fourteen TC910's, or even the Adam's CMB's, I think they'll be a big hit!

[toddba11]

[quote name='eerogolf' timestamp='1343924201' post='5396578']
Work at a course with a PING Account and just tried to order a set with C-Tapers shafts in them. They where going to charge us extra per club as she said this is not a standard shafts for this model.
[/quote]

Obviously you spoke to the wrong sales rep, and no offense, but just because you work at a golf course that has a Ping account does not mean you are a business savy individual and informed customer.