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  • LowAndLeft32LowAndLeft32 Members  231WRX Points: 73Posts: 231 Fairways
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    Dang

    On -, @dpb5031. Serious club head speed there.
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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FLMembers  5880WRX Points: 1,450Posts: 5,880 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @LowAndLeft32 said:

    Dang
    On -, @dpb5031. Serious club head speed there.

    Thanks! If I don't put my absolute best move on it she's past me. She played several rounds in our men's group (guys my age) over spring break and hit it past all of them from the same tees...lol! They literally couldn't believe it...😁

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    Great move! I bet you’re really proud of her!

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    On -, @ALIF said:

    Great move! I bet you’re really proud of her!

    Thanks! Yessir...and best of all not just for her golf. She's really a great kid...I'm very lucky. Also was just awarded Academic All American.

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    good stuff dewey

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  • magsgolfhomagsgolfho Members  411WRX Points: 90Posts: 411 Greens
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    I saw Geoff several times up in warwick over the years. I believe i met you dewey and your daughter once or twice and you as well raul one of those times. Geoff was always a gentleman and a friend. Very gracious with his time and knowledge and never a clock watcher. In my own experience as a high-capper some of his stuff was over my head at the time. And as D said i kind of stuck with what was comfortable rather then doing the work. I really didn't know how to practice back then. I have learned a lot since those days. In my opinion i see a lot of geoffs stuff or a hybrid version of it with a lot of the current internet/instagram/youtube guys. i still refer to my dvds and try to apply what he told me. I would love to see him again if i can ever make contact with him.I think i could make huge gains now. His stuff on here in those early days was was phenomenal; i believed it shaped these forums. Its too bad though it got to a point anytime his name came up it became a bashing and threads got closed all the time between his followers and the trolls duking it out.
    anyway the best advice i got form him was the grip. it all starts and ends there. worth the price of admission. " if you don't put your hand on there right you don't stand a chance"

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    On -, @dpb5031 said:

    On -, @ALIF said:

    Great move! I bet you’re really proud of her!

    Thanks! Yessir...and best of all not just for her golf. She's really a great kid...I'm very lucky. Also was just awarded Academic All American.

    She really is a great kid. Her dad's pretty awesome as well.

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    It's no doubt best for Geoff that he doesn't post on Golfwrx. The internet is full of trolls, so there is no way to use it without getting sucked into conversations you don't need to have with people who are doing it differently and see that as a reason to tell you that you are doing it wrong. Too bad, too, because the guy is a great teacher, a wonderful human being, and a good friend to those lucky enough to get to know him a little bit. I have very fond memories of my visit to TXK and about 25 DVDs of his teachings that I watch throughout the golf season. They are as good as it gets.

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  • danielt823danielt823 MelbourneMembers  81WRX Points: 63Posts: 81 Fairways
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    Can someone please send me a copy of his encyclopaedia texakarna?


    cheers

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    I think it’s amazing that the swing rapidly being taught now, steep to shallow and the way the release is looked at with zero rolling through impact , is what he has taught all along. They should rename the planemate to the Slicefixerband lol

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    I think he figured that out early and saved himself the headache. (Though the thread lasted on for years.) It is EXTREMELY hard to explain golf concepts effectively on an internet board. Largely because everybody is coming from a different place and as he always says 'feel is not real.' It's like trying trying to print someone's GPS instructions from one destination to another when you are starting in a different place. (And driving with a blindfold.) Why take the time and effort that he took to craft carefully thought out responses....just to get more questions than he could every answer or criticism that this subforum always elicits? Sure he could get a few more potential clients, but his lesson sheet stayed full.


    It seems to me that he figured it out quickly and is likely much happier because of it. (as do a lot of talented instructors who post on the forum) He's a good man. And a very knowledgeable teacher. I think the best fits are students who can see him on a regular basis (like all those kids he's helped develop sweet swings.) If my kids had been interested in golf and had talent/desire to be better, he would have been their instructor in their formative stage for sure.

    If you are an average golfer looking to improve in one trip to TXK or by making heads or tails of the Encyclopedia Texarkana (which is an edited version of a series of posts, not a true instruction book) your odds of success are pretty low. There were a lot of us (me included) who read every word and just felt if I worked hard enough, I'd master it too. I remember Geoff telling me that almost nearly every single golfer who came from the boards and had read the ET weren't doing the drill correctly.

    Lots of good concepts are in there. And as someone said above, more people are doing a better job of teaching those concepts in a way fits. A decade later, my swing is miles better. And I'd bet would say it's a lot more fundamentally sound. (A little bit from time with Monte and local instructors helped a ton) I'm nowhere close to being a 'great ballstriker', but I can compress a golf ball and shoot scores I'm happy with and enjoy the game. (as opposed to the hack show my game was before)

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  • mocokidmocokid Members  2226WRX Points: 379Posts: 2,226 Platinum Tees
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    do a search, it's in the thread "9 to 3 drill and so much more"

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  • muscaromuscaro Members  1WRX Points: 18Handicap: 15Posts: 1 Starters
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    As long as we’re posting comments, here’s mine ..

    I’m 60. Been playing golf since 1986. And frankly sucked at it. I was a member of several different clubs (some well known) and took lessons from ... a club pro, a PGA Master Professional, a PGA Tour player, a local teaching pro, Dave Pelz (short game only), as well as friends and family who were good players.

    Disgusted with my lack of progress (and I’m reasonably athletic), I called Geoff and booked an appointment. Geoff has TOTALLY TRANSFORMED my knowledge of the swing and how I should perform it.

    Geoff has forced me to dig it out of the dirt. I will be the first to say that I didn’t get it on my first trip. But I keep working on it. One way to swing, one way to release. And I’m improving at a faster rate than ever. Honestly, there are days I feel I’m going to play really well.

    If you want to play golf, keep doing what you’re doing. If you want to excel at it, you need to get down to Texarkana. I don’t need lessons from another local pro charging $125 per half hour. I’ve had that. Geoff will Force you to think. I think he’s the best instructor in golf today. By far.

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    Helluva 1st post and could not agree more with everything you've said. Welcome to WRX.

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    Shame about Geoff he could had made millions but the inability to take action and or not having the right marketing team meant he let a lot of money go. Whereas the likes of GG saw his following especially with teenagers rebranded themselves, tapped in that market and took the money.

    It 's so frustrating as I hate to see people just let opportunities slip away. Granted he might not be the best at self promotion and marketing but this is where you bring someone in your team who is good at this.

    The whole slicefixer ship has sailed.... or maybe not?

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    Several years ago I took a bunch of lessons from Geoff. I got frustrated a bit with what I thought was lack of progress, then I dabbled with a bunch of other folks. I will tell you what, when things go sideways, I think back to Geoff's teachings and more often than not, it sets me on the right track. Can't say that about anyone else. I realize now I had one key concept I wasn't getting with Geoff- and the way he was explaining it to me didn't make sense. I worked it out myself over a long period of time and know a lot more now than I knew then. I would LOVE to go back to him, I would DEFINITELY have him teach my kids and I think he still goes up to Warwick. My favorite golf lessons are from Geoff, and I was so happy I recorded them. Puts a smile on my face to replay them and my swing looked really good with him from where I started.

    I disagree that he could have made millions. He could have done "OK", and still might have that ability, but he had some self-sabotage that limited him - and his method does not lend itself to big golfing dollars. People pay for a quick fix, gadgets, and something that sounds novel, not someone drilling fundamental concepts over and over saying you have a long hard road ahead with his template. He would tell me that big NYC money guys would come up for lessons and want to be fixed in one session.

    I also do think there is a style issue that relates to how he is so successful he is with juniors but spotty with experienced golfers. I saw some other acolytes and I saw it in myself a bit too. If you buy into the "long hard road" concept, then you accept not making a lot of progress very soon. This means that you could be doing the wrong thing for a long time and just chalking it up to "not getting it" or not paying attention to the minute, elusive detail. A good change should have an immediate effect. Then you practice and drill to make the change stick. If you are a junior and have a blank slate to accept the slicefixer template - great. If you are coming in with a bunch of baggage, that's different. Although I do have to say he "warned" me during the first lesson that he has a swing he teaches and this is what you are going to learn. Period.

    All in all, I would say that he has done more for my game (and my kids) than anyone else and given me some of my favorite golfing memories. My Avatar is my son in Warwick practicing Geoff's swing when he was about 4 years old. Will always remember that day!

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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FLMembers  5880WRX Points: 1,450Posts: 5,880 Titanium Tees
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    Geoff isn't the type motivated by money. 10 years ago he really could have capitalized on his popularity by scaling his operation, starting with an assistant, a scheduling secretary, and a functional and working website. It all sounds good, but he never stopped teaching 10-12 hours per day and was apparently uninterested in delegating or taking on partners or employees who likely would have been able to help him grow the business.

    Geoff was explaining concepts about the golf swing (and how to teach it) on these forums more than 10 years ago that were not widely known at the time, but are now universally accepted. I now hear terminology he coined being used by teachers and players at all levels. He had it right without Trackman, Force Plates, Biomechanics software, etc....just extensive self exploration of his own swing, trial & error, countless hours of slo-mo video, and delivering thousands of lessons...literally "digging it out of the dirt."

    His message resonated with many, hence the growth of his popularity. In my case he fundamentally changed the conceptual way i viewed what should happen in a good golf swing, and in turn, helped me make the changes required to become a much better player in my mid 40s. He also helped my daughter build a swing that got her to competing at the highest levels of amateur golf and receiving a DI full ride to a great university. I'll be forever grateful to him for that, plus he's been a good friend.

    I think Geoff will be most happy and fulfilled when one of his students, especially one he's taught from the very beginning, makes it on one of the big Tours. I'm confident that that type of validation would mean more to him than financial gain.

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    Saw geoff after a while last year. Back to swinging well.

    https://youtu.be/x2f-JUyBSRw

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    What a hack!! (said with extreme envy). Looking good man, hope all is well!

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    What the !!!!! That is a seriously awesome swing. I can easily see how she is smoking it past everybody.Her impact position is amazing,very pro-like.

    Years ago I booked a 3-day school with Geoff and ended up cancelling it. I shouldn't have but I did. When I talked to him on the phone he just seemed like such a nice guy. Not the kind of guy that cares about money and fame,but more of a very down to earth person who genuinely cares about other people than himself.I've altogether given up on golf instruction but who knows,maybe someday I'll go pay him a visit.

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    teaching someone is very hard for them to make a change, I’ve tried on a few people I know and it’s not easy. You end up resorting to very simple drills in an effort to see a change.

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    Swing looks money. How long have you been working with Geoff? Thanks. @verderraul

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    Back to work on 9 to 3’s after some time off. Hitting the ball great again. Slicefixer is the best.

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    Lots of good comments here about Geoff's teaching that resonates with me. He is an outstanding swing analyst, and his systematic understanding of the golf swing - it's actually his swing theory - was the best I'd encountered back then and maybe still is. And I had studied everything I could get over before I went to see him. He has undressed so many myths about the golf swing, and a lot of his thoughts are available here if you google him. His golf swing theory isn't as unique as it was. It seems like more and more of the top players hit the ball as he has been advicing all along. Good science and good teachers have evolved greatly since then as well, but Geoff is still the one I'd see if I should take another swing lesson. And besides, he gives a lot more than just being a swing coach when you visit him. Going to Texarcana is up there with Hawaii, Grand Canyon and the Caribbean ... for a golfer like me.

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    Well said @Lefthook. I hope to make another trip to TXK this year. It would be my third visit. How many times have you been to see Geoff? Thanks for the comments.

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  • indianagolf2indianagolf2 Members  178WRX Points: 34Posts: 178 Fairways
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    Wasnt dan whittaker a disciple of Slicefixer?? Plenty of youtube on dsn whittaker. Ibtjink.in this day and age there are plenty of instruction online and all over usa that you dont need to go to sliceficer.

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    Plus he was supposed to be coming out with the book 5 years ago..?? His presence on youtube is zero...ill.pass

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    Was he really or was it just him using Slicefixer as a way to get traffic.

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