2013 Hot List balls, spin rate chart

dgndgn Posts: 176 ✭✭
I scanned this from the latest issue of Golf Digest. Seems like a lot of people always want to know the spin rate, but I could not find a link online. Hope it looks okay.

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  • YepyukonYepyukon Hinge + Hold Members Posts: 4,122 ✭✭
    Love how the Wilson FG Tour X is right in the middle of the Pro V1 and Pro V1X, but ranks lower in the performance catagory...
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  • dacdac Posts: 1,501
    Thanks for scanning & posting. My subscription ran out and haven't renewed but I love the comparison tests.



    Looks like callaway hex chrome balls are worth looking into!
  • domerdomer Posts: 391
    edited May 7, 2013 #4
    This is awesome, thanks for scanning it in. I know these don't tell the whole story, but Callaway looks to be killing it right now; check out the numbers for the Diablo, Chrome and Chrome+...



    EDIT: dac beat me to it! Agreed.
  • 360_CS360_CS Members Posts: 4,256 ✭✭
    Yea looks like the Chrome and the Rocketballz are good value.



    Does the V1X have more greenside spin than the V1? I thought it was the other way round.
  • amishamish Posts: 216
    Thanks for posting this.



    From the looks of it, any ball with a urethane cover will give you superior 1/2 wedge spin. Note the Maxfli U/2 is right there with every other urethane ball for spin.



    So if dropping and stopping is your aim, pick up a urethane covered ball. They are available all the way down to around #20 per dozen.
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,929 ✭✭
    edited May 7, 2013 #7
    Some of my takes on it.



    $20 and under highlights:



    Hex Diablo – actually had more half wedge spin and less driver spin than the more pricey Hex Hot (very similar numbers to the more expensive e6). – great value



    Maxfli U2 – same wedge spin as tour balls. Downside was it had the most driver spin of any ball tested. Bad combo for a higher cap. Probably not very durable either. Poor mans e5?



    Gamer – seemed to be big let down from prior versions as far as half wedge spin (brought up the rear there). Also had some of the higher driver spins of the Surlyn balls.



    TM Superdeep and DT Solo – spin wise they are virtually identical to the Velocity, One Rzn, and E7 which are all higher priced. Good values



    Duo – the lowest driver spin tested. – great for anyone spraying it off the tee. Poor man’s e6 for sure !!







    $21-$36 highlights



    Chrome and Chrome+ - as I see it this ball has to get top honors when based on the #’s alone (same wedge spin as the $36+ balls and had driver spin that beat many of the Surlyn balls. Sounds like the perfect ball hands down. I’d like to hear the cons from anyone who has been playing it. (perhaps, durability issues, no feel, etc….?)



    RBZ Urethane – seems to pretty much play just like a Srixon Z Star and Nike 20X1 around the greens and off the tee and for $10 less. Kinda higher on the driver spin though. Touch better driver spin # than an e5.



    NXT Tour S – Almost approaching Tour ball wedge spin (REALLY?...for a 2 pc surlyn….) I find that hard to believe. It actually had a touch more wedge spin than a urethane Volvik Vista tour ball. hmmm).



    Q star – Wow big let down – No wedge spin and higher than most surlyn balls on driver spin. Totally opposite of what Srixon claims. I want to love this ball too...but the numbers just aren't there.





    $36+ balls



    All have comparable half wedge spin. So the only discernible difference I see is driver spin.



    B330, Hex Black, and Lethal- Higher driver spin



    Srixon’s, Maxfli and Nikes – Middle of the road driver spin



    Titleist on the lower end of driver spin



    Wilsons – very close proV1X and Chrome specs…great value especially on the cosmetic blems.

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  • grochol17grochol17 Members Posts: 1,284 ✭✭
    erock9174 wrote:


    $21-$36 highlights



    Chrome and Chrome+ - as I see it this ball has to get top honors when based on the #'s alone (same wedge spin as the $36+ balls and had driver spin that beat many of the Surlyn balls. Sounds like the perfect ball hands down. I'd like to hear the cons from anyone who has been playing it. (perhaps, durability issues, no feel, etc….?)




    Hi erock - I wrote what I think is a fairly detailed review on the Chrome+. You can see it here:



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/823855-callaway-hex-chrome-review/



    feel free to comment there if you have any questions. The post is a bit long, so the summary is this: The Chrome+ is a really solid offering from Callaway. It had good feel on all shots; not too firm, not too soft and none of the 'click' that I get from the Hex Black. I could work the ball both ways with my woods and irons and had drop and stop performance on the greens (though the greens were fairly firm). The 18 I played with it was pretty windy, so I can't comment on distance, but I certainly didn't feel like I lost anything with the chrome+. Durability was pretty good and better than my times playing the Hex Black. For me, the ball doesn't scream "I'm your favorite ball eva!" but I played just as well with it as will balls that cost $5 to $10 more per dozen, so next time I buy balls, I'll probably get the Chrome+.
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  • Hat TrickHat Trick Members Posts: 543 ✭✭
    I have played Lethal and V1X. But I also have played the E5 and have not seen any difference in my scoring. Looking at the chart I can see why now - plus a great price with excellent durability. My swing speed is upper 90s, handicap 6.1.
  • UTvols83UTvols83 Members Posts: 210
    Considering the 95mph swing speed, I'm not surprised to see the higher compression tour balls showing higher than expected driver spin. It's a great chart for most golfers. Higher swing speed players will likely see different results off the driver with some of those balls.
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  • dgndgn Posts: 176 ✭✭
    I did scan it as an attachment, and it will look clearer if you click on the picture and open it full-screen...
  • larrybudlarrybud Members Posts: 11,224 ✭✭
    edited May 7, 2013 #12
    Are there two different kind of Rocketballz? I find they don't spin worth anything with a wedge. I normally plays the NXT Tour S but switched to Rocketballz when it the courses were soaked this spring.. once it dried out, I can't count how many times the RBZ bounced over the green with a wedge.



    BTW, I'm VERY disappointed that they don't include carry distance and landing angle with their robot testing. Love to see an independant lab do this.
  • newjedinewjedi Members Posts: 405
    Not sure what to think on the QStar wonder if they used 2013 or old ball. All I know is that it spins more for me around the green and have had no problems holding the green on half shots in. In my last 6 rounds playing with this ball the ball has hopped and stopped for me and on a few occasions the ball has spun back.



    I have decided to stopped paying attention to articles like this and go with how a product performs for me.
  • To me, it looks like the Chrome and Chrome+ are lookin like the best value. They look like a great combination of wedge spin and low driver spin!
  • bigbutchbigbutch Posts: 207 ✭✭
    I see 2 reasons lots of Pro's play the Pro V1X. It doesn't spin a lot off the driver, but it spins with the wedge. I tried the RXS 330 last year and it just didn't spin enough for me on wedge shots. I'm going to see if I can find this test in last years mag. and if it shows the RXS 330 up there with the higher spin balls I'm going to have a hard time with any of these results. Just m2cents.
  • bigbutchbigbutch Posts: 207 ✭✭
    newjedi wrote:


    Not sure what to think on the QStar wonder if they used 2013 or old ball. All I know is that it spins more for me around the green and have had no problems holding the green on half shots in. In my last 6 rounds playing with this ball the ball has hopped and stopped for me and on a few occasions the ball has spun back.



    I have decided to stopped paying attention to articles like this and go with how a product performs for me.
    You nailed it Brother.
  • J13J13 Dad golf Members Posts: 15,264 ✭✭
    UTvols83 wrote:


    Considering the 95mph swing speed, I'm not surprised to see the higher compression tour balls showing higher than expected driver spin. It's a great chart for most golfers. Higher swing speed players will likely see different results off the driver with some of those balls.




    Very different results. I wish they did testing for multiple Swing sppeds. Maybe 95mph and 110 mph.
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  • bigbutchbigbutch Posts: 207 ✭✭
    clwehring wrote:


    To me, it looks like the Chrome and Chrome+ are lookin like the best value. They look like a great combination of wedge spin and low driver spin!
    You should also take into consideration how the ball feels, distance, and durability. And also, cost and whether you are playing the right ball that fits your ability.
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,929 ✭✭
    edited May 8, 2013 #19
    bigbutch wrote:

    clwehring wrote:


    To me, it looks like the Chrome and Chrome+ are lookin like the best value. They look like a great combination of wedge spin and low driver spin!
    You should also take into consideration how the ball feels, distance, and durability. And also, cost and whether you are playing the right ball that fits your ability.




    I'll give you cost, durability and feel but distance not no sure. Every robot test I've seen all balls were within 3 yds of one another. Also this season I've played the e6, both 2013 proV's, Hex Hot, Superdeep, and Srixon z star SL. A good drive produces roughly the same yardage no matter the ball for me. Slightly off center hit and I lose about 20 yds.



    If anything weather to me has the biggest effect. Colder soggy conditions at best I hit the ball 210-215. Warmer firmer conditions I am seeing upwards of 230+. But once again not ball related.

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  • GC70GC70 What's Next? ClubWRX Posts: 7,505 ✭✭
    360_CS wrote:


    Yea looks like the Chrome and the Rocketballz are good value.



    Does the V1X have more greenside spin than the V1? I thought it was the other way round.




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  • bigbutch wrote:

    clwehring wrote:


    To me, it looks like the Chrome and Chrome+ are lookin like the best value. They look like a great combination of wedge spin and low driver spin!
    You should also take into consideration how the ball feels, distance, and durability. And also, cost and whether you are playing the right ball that fits your ability.




    Well, I was looking for a soft feel, and the Chrome has that. It is exactly what I'm looking for.
  • JoeSchuJoeSchu Generally Curious, Mostly Clueless Posts: 252 ✭✭
    As a fairly loyal Bridgestone e6 player, I was really surprised by the Callaway offerings and where they placed on the chart. I'm definitely going to be giving them a shot, but when you can find e6's for $22/dozen, they're really hard to beat.



    Perhaps the $3 Chrome is the perfect bridge between the $2 e6's and the $4 ProV's.
  • all4isuall4isu Members Posts: 143
    edited May 8, 2013 #23
    Thanks for posting. Looks like I'll be trying Chrome + this season.
  • dgndgn Posts: 176 ✭✭
    I'll be playing with the '13 version of the Pro V1x for the first time this weekend. If it's even slightly better than the previous version I can't imaging getting better results from another ball. Though I'll probably need more hours at work to pay for them image/swoon2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon2:' /> !
  • moonshinemoonshine 64 @ Augusta? No problem! North Charleston, SCClubWRX Posts: 6,349 ✭✭
    A few players have recently switched balls. RF changed to regular prov after being x guy his entire PGA career. The article mentions is spins less off driver for him! Second, two gloves switched to the chrome + due to various performance enhancements for his game. I don't think the chrome + is inexpensive though at $35 a dozen.
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  • cavemeistercavemeister Members Posts: 1,125 ✭✭
    I love the chrome BUT they are a bit clunky. Better in the wind and longer than the v1 or v1x, BUT they just don't have that short game feel. It seems like the dimple design, while good in the wind, makes the ball clunky. You know that chip or pitch shot where you pitch it just right, and it feels like butter coming off the club? The chrome can't do that.
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  • grochol17grochol17 Members Posts: 1,284 ✭✭


    I love the chrome BUT they are a bit clunky. Better in the wind and longer than the v1 or v1x, BUT they just don't have that short game feel. It seems like the dimple design, while good in the wind, makes the ball clunky. You know that chip or pitch shot where you pitch it just right, and it feels like butter coming off the club? The chrome can't do that.




    I haven't tried the original chrome, but I would consider saying the chrome+ is like buttah on chip shots.
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  • MirageMirage Members Posts: 310
    dgn wrote:


    I'll be playing with the '13 version of the Pro V1x for the first time this weekend. If it's even slightly better than the previous version I can't imaging getting better results from another ball. Though I'll probably need more hours at work to pay for them image/swoon2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon2:' /> !




    I've stayed with the Srixon XV since it came out, mostly because my non-conforming Vokeys were murder on the ProV1x for anything more than 1/2 a shot. But I played the 2013 version of the V1x for five rounds over a long weekend a few days ago, and just loved it. I putted really well with it, like it off the tee, maybe get a little more height on my irons (hard to tell, since I hit if fairly high anyway), and while I lost some paint on 2/3 or more of a shot with the Vokeys, the ball didn't gill open the way it used to.



    I'm sold - it's my new ball. And yes, it WILL cost me more to play it - I'll get over it. image/happy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':happy:' />
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  • yahtzeeyahtzee Members Posts: 2,229
    I really thought the Lethal ball was marketed as a low driver spin ball....granted, the range is very small between high-spin and low-spin off of the driver.
  • PZeroPZero Members Posts: 11,353 ✭✭
    Can't believe the new Gamer did so poorly on greenside spin. What's the point in making it a 3 piece if it doesn't perform like one? Time to stock up on the old V2 model.
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  • 2717B2717B Posts: 260 ✭✭
    PZero wrote:


    Can't believe the new Gamer did so poorly on greenside spin. What's the point in making it a 3 piece if it doesn't perform like one? Time to stock up on the old V2 model.




    Is the ball they tested the Gamer or Gamer Tour? Seems like the tour would have more spin.
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