Jump to content

1 Iron over the Driver?


steel09

Recommended Posts

When I was in college I made a poor decision in a tournament (going for a green over water, made an 8). After that tournament, the coach made me qualify for one round without any woods. I put a roommates Mizuno 1 iron in the bag and managed to shoot 71 (course was fairly short). This of course reinforced the coach's opinion that I "didn't need any woods"...

That was 16 years ago and I assume it's the last time I will use a 1 iron.

  • Like 1

Titleist TSr2 10* Tensei 1K Black 65X
Titleist TSr2 15* Tensei White 75X 
Titleist Tsi 22* Tensei White 95X
Titleist T150 NS Pro 120 X 4-PW
Vokey SM9 50*, 54* and 60* TT DGS400
SIK Pro Custom

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bringing back some old memories. In high school I had a Tommy Armour 0 iron. 1 irons are for hackers, real men play 0 irons.

Honestly though some of our high school matches were on real dog tracks, the 0 iron sure didn't carry far, but on those dirt fairways it rolled FOREVER. During the summer playing amateur events it stayed at home, there weren't many State amateur events played on dog tracks in NC. When I went to Scotland in 2018, I actually threw it in the bag, but I never had a real windy day to use it and take advantage. and the courses I played were pretty open, so I didn't need a 50 foot peak height shot. I did hit it on one hole, because nostalgia, and my driver was 50+ yards past it.

  • Driver - Ping G430 Max 10k - Ventus Black 6X | Ping G430 LST 10.5 - Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI TX
  • 3 Wood - Taylormade 300 Mini 13.5 - Ventus Purple X
  • 5 Wood - Ping G430 Max - Ventus Purple X 
  • 7 Wood - Ping G430 Max - Ventus Purple X | 4 iron - Srixon ZX4 MKII - Axiom 105X
  • 5 - PW Ping BluePrint S - Shaft testing
  • SW - Cleveland RTX6 55* - Fuji Tour Spec 115X | LW - Vokey SM9T 60* - Fuji Tour Spec 115X
  • Putters - Odyssey #7 Knuckle Neck Proto | Odyssey Jailbird Versa Microhinge - Odyssey Tank DBOdyssey Jailbird Ai-One
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've gamed DI down, but never a true 1i at top of the bag. I've only ever known 1 person who did (had Wilson Midsized RM's), with ok success, but was embarrassingly far behind everyone. I understand wanting to keep it in play, but there has to be better options even going the thriver route.

What's In The Ping Moonlite:
Ping Rapture '14 13*
Ping Rapture DI 18*
Titleist 690.CB 4/6/8/PW
Vokey TVD 54*
Odyssey Tank V-Line

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@Stinger83 - I no longer hunt Dove, just larger game. But when I did I used a 20g O/U and buddies used 20g or 16g and my FIL used .410 O/U. A 12g without a very wide pattern choke leaves nothing for dinner table. There's an argument that says 12g is like a CB, a lot more forgiving. A 20g or .410 require more skill, like MB. Have a good day.
  • TSR2 9.25° Ventus Velo TR Blue 58
  • TSR2 15° AD VF 74
  • T200 17 2i° Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 90
  • T100 3i to 9i MMT 105
  • T100 PW, SM9 F52/12, M58/8, PX Wedge 6.0 120
  • SC/CA Monterey
  • DASH -ProV1x & AVX
Link to comment
Share on other sites

A great idea if you are 25 years old and your name is Jack Nicklaus, Greg Norman, Tiger Woods, Brooks Koepka or Dusitn Johnson.

Club Champion Custom Callaway AI Smoke 11*, Aldila Ascent 40 Gram, A Flex

Srixon F45 4-wood, 17*, Kuro Kage 606 S
TXG Custom  SIM Max 7-wood, Accra FX 140 2.0 M2

TXG Custom Cobra Tech 5-hybrid, KBS TGI 75 R
TXG Custom PXG 0211 6-pw, 1* upright, Recoil E460 R
PXG 0211 GW, 50*, (new version), UST Recoil Dart R
TXG Custom Cleveland CBX 54*, Tour Issue DG Spinner 115 

Ping Glide 4.0 58*, Nippon 115 
TXG Custom Cobra Nova, KBS CT Tour Shaft

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There's just no way you'd take a driver out of the bag for a 1i. What would you hope to get in terms of distance, maybe within 30 yards of driver carry realistically? And you'd definitely be losing forgiveness. Plus if you can't control a driver well enough where you're looking for something else the answer doesn't lie in a 1-iron I can promise you that. Maybe if you were only playing 6,000 yard courses it might be fun but on a course of any decent length you're going to be losing something not having a driver in the bag.

Driver: Ping G425 LST 9º (at 8º) Accra TZ5 65 M5

3 Wood: Taylormade SIM Ti 15º Accra TZ5 75 M5

3i/4i: Srixon Z785 Nippon Modus 120X (4i 1º weak)

5i-PW: Srixon Z-Forged Modus 120X

50º/54º/60º: Cleveland RTX 4 (Mid Bounce) Modus 120X (50º/54º) & DG TI S400 (60º)

Putter: Scotty Cameron Special Select Squareback 2 (33.75", 70º lie, 2.5º loft)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’d be curious how often Cameron hits iron off tee when he could hit 4 wood or driver. based on what Berkshire said.

Radspeed 8, 13.5, 17.5/hzrdusgreentx                                                           Radspeed 21/tz4100m5+
Utility one length 3,4 iron/mmt105tx
                                                              Forged one length 6-9/x100 wedge onyx

vokey 46*8, 54*8, 62*8/s400 wedge onyx                                                    phantom x5/stabilitytour

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you follow torquegolf.com, they have both the 1 and 2 iron for sale for the miura mb-101 set. They aren't cheap but you also don't see these often. I have a full set of Miura MB-101's from 1-PW. They are beautiful. And as intimidating as the mb-101 1 iron is, it pales in comparison to the 1957 baby blade 2 iron I have

ESB63QI0695P.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Until last season, a guy in our group played with a version of the old King Cobra II irons, shafted in R-flex graphite. He only carried a 3W at the time - no driver - and had 1i and 3i at long end of bag. He let me hit the 1i, and I could get about 180 yards from it off the tee. That's the same distance I get with my 4i.@steel09, I hate to do this, but I'm required by GolfWRX rules to ask THE QUESTION... Did you get fitted for your driver?
Also, what it the trouble pattern with your driver?
With the right shaft, you might be able to use it for a driving iron. But, I doubt you will get both control and longer distance from a 1i.

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
Link to comment
Share on other sites

All good questions and to be totally transparent, I don’t think i could mentally allow myself to pull my driver out of the bag. I got fitted into a taylormade Sim 9.0 with a ventus black 6x shaft. It’s a rocket launcher and I get really good numbers with it.

 

So yes, rest assured.... I’ve been fit! With that said, Even on good days, I can get my driver to leak a little left (draw) and miss fairways and be in trouble 285 yards off the tee. With my 2 iron U500, I may only get 260 out of it, but it’s much harder to miss left and right.

 

Ive yet to hit the 1 iron, but if I could get it out there 270+ total (after roll out), it could potentially be more valuable to me than being 295 off the tee in the rough stuff.

 

Again, all this is total speculation and under a best case scenario. Because, a mis-hit 1 iron vs a mis-hit driver could be a huge hit on distance off the tee. Gotta ask those who have done it and played a super low lifted iron if it’s better to be shorter off the tee in the short stuff or longer off the tee in the long stuff?

 

4UTHI2BPCIGU.jpeg(Let’s see how long we can go before the infamous: “there’s 15 clubs in the bag tho...” comment) ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Up until a few years ago I used an old Ping Eye 2 1-iron on a long but tight links course I often play on holiday. I was about a 12-h-cap at the time. I hit hybrids these days but the 1-iron was probably longer and ran out more when I was in the groove with it. It was partly a confidence thing to feel that I'd hit it well almost every time, and it was ideal for narrow, hard fairways.

  • PING G400 Max 9* Tensei Orange 60 S
  • PING Anser 17 / 20* hybrids Graphite Design 85S
  • Miura PP-9003 Straight Neck 4-PW Nippon NS Pro 750 GH wrap tech
  • Miura 52, 56 K forged wedges / PING Eye 2 LW beryllium copper
  • Nordberg Halvdan custom / PING Cushin Scottsdale zip / PING Jim Wells Zing 5KS SN / PING Vault 2.0 Ketsch 380g, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You would have to shaft up the 1i and see how it flies.

As per your most recent post, a U500 2i that you can control might be more reliable than a 1i.

As for your driver, you might take a lesson and see why you miss left on occasion. If a diminished left miss always got you first cut of rough, would that work?

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2024 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Alex Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Austin Cook - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Alejandro Tosti - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      MJ Daffue - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Nate Lashley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      MJ Daffue's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Cameron putters - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Swag covers ( a few custom for Nick Hardy) - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Custom Bettinardi covers for Matt and Alex Fitzpatrick - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
      • 1 reply
    • 2024 RBC Heritage - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #1
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Thomas Detry - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Austin Eckroat - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Wyndham Clark's Odyssey putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      JT's new Cameron putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Thomas testing new Titleist 2 wood - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Cameron putters - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Odyssey putter with triple track alignment aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Scotty Cameron The Blk Box putting alignment aid/training aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 7 replies
    • 2024 Masters - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Huge shoutout to our member Stinger2irons for taking and posting photos from Augusta
       
       
      Tuesday
       
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 1
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 2
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 3
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 4
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 5
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 6
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 7
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 8
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 9
      The Masters 2024 – Pt. 10
       
       
       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 14 replies
    • Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 93 replies
    • 2024 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or Comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Valero Texas Open - Monday #1
      2024 Valero Texas Open - Tuesday #1
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Paul Barjon - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Joe Sullivan - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Wilson Furr - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Ben Willman - SoTex PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Jimmy Stanger - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rickie Fowler - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Harrison Endycott - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Vince Whaley - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Kevin Chappell - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Christian Bezuidenhout - WITB (mini) - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Scott Gutschewski - WITB - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Michael S. Kim WITB – 2024 Valero Texas Open
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Ben Taylor with new Titleist TRS 2 wood - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Swag cover - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Davis Riley's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Josh Teater's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Hzrdus T1100 is back - - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Mark Hubbard testing ported Titleist irons – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Tyson Alexander testing new Titleist TRS 2 wood - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Hideki Matsuyama's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Cobra putters - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Joel Dahmen WITB – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Axis 1 broomstick putter - 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy testing a new TaylorMade "PROTO" 4-iron – 2024 Valero Texas Open
      Rory McIlroy's Trackman numbers w/ driver on the range – 2024 Valero Texas Open
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 4 replies

×
×
  • Create New...