What current ball is closest to the old TP Black?

[duffer888]

Anyone know what current ball is closest to the old TP Black? So I'd be looking for a 3-piece urethane cover ball with a high launch on the firmer side, not marshmellow soft.

 

Was using Burner TPs this year. Ran out so used some leftover U Tri Tours and missed the checking on the greens with a urethane ball. Running out of those now. Tried some leftover Pentas this weekend and remembered why they are leftover. I don't like them.

 

So, any ideas?

[ChrisGio315]

RBZ U would be my guess... FWIW, I used the RBZ U for 3 holes and it was a pretty nice ball all around with some good distance off the driver...

[PZero]

Wasn't the TP3 very similar to the Black?

[SC-TX 88]

Rock bottom has the TP Black practice 3 dozen for 32.99 I think.

[Smokey227]

If you have not tried the hex chrome give them a try. I played the TP black for years and I play the Chrome now. It doesn't spin quite as much as the TP black did, but a lot more than the others you mentioned.

[j_king]

[quote name='Smokey227' timestamp='1384483503' post='8151164']
If you have not tried the hex chrome give them a try. I played the TP black for years and I play the Chrome now. It doesn't spin quite as much as the TP black did, but a lot more than the others you mentioned.
[/quote]

I've been using the hex chromes for the past few rounds and have been happy with it. They do get dirty and scuff fast, but at $20/dozen for the x outs, I'm completely fine with that!

[storm319]

In terms of construction, overall compression, and cover hardness, the Wilson FG Tour X is closest (being discontinued). The Penta TP3 and later the RBZ Urethane replaced the TP Black LDP and are lower compression, but should offer similar performance.

[ZenBeast]

I've played TP Blacks and agree with assessment above, Chromes have not quite as much spin onto the greens
but nice soft feel and pretty long off the driver. The lowered spin shows up on partial shots into
the green. Full iron shots drop and stop pretty consistently. You just get a bit more roll out with
the 3/4, half swing and less into the greens.

Worth a shot, or perhaps a sleeve.

[farmer]

OT, but I wish Wilson would blemish a bunch more FG Tours, X or regular. Back to topic, they felt very similar to the Blacks. As I recall.

[ncblademan]

For 2014 Taylormade is replacing the Lethal with Tour Preferred and Tour Preferred X. I have not been able to try the samples I got yet, but I am thinking the Tour Preferred is going to be like he old TP Black. The also are replacing the RBZ Urethane with a ball called Project A. Should be close though to the RBZ Urethane.

[backtees]

In terms of compression and cover hardness definitely:

Wilson Tour FG X
Callaway HEX Black Tour

[Mahamilto]

Just buy tp blacks on close out at dicks.

[kemau]

tp blacks are at dicks sporting goods for $19.99

[Ed Settle]

[quote name='ncblademan' timestamp='1387028870' post='8298747']
For 2014 Taylormade is replacing the Lethal with Tour Preferred and Tour Preferred X. I have not been able to try the samples I got yet, but I am thinking the Tour Preferred is going to be like he old TP Black. The also are replacing the RBZ Urethane with a ball called Project A. Should be close though to the RBZ Urethane.
[/quote]

New Tour Preferred is supposed to be really close.

[boogie7711]

[quote name='2659edward' timestamp='1389321242' post='8432309']
[quote name='ncblademan' timestamp='1387028870' post='8298747']
For 2014 Taylormade is replacing the Lethal with Tour Preferred and Tour Preferred X. I have not been able to try the samples I got yet, but I am thinking the Tour Preferred is going to be like he old TP Black. The also are replacing the RBZ Urethane with a ball called Project A. Should be close though to the RBZ Urethane.
[/quote]

New Tour Preferred is supposed to be really close.
[/quote]I'm thinking the Tour Preferred is the latest version of the TP Red LDP, four piece and recently removed from USGA conforming list.

[cristphoto]

I briefly tried the TP Black when it was available a few years ago. As I recall it was a fairly firm ball (noticeably more than a ProV1X). My guess is the firmer of the newest Callaway balls (SR3) might be a match.

[leoh923]

Rocketballz urethane

[dffjunior]

edit: removed link

[502 to Right]

[quote name='dffjunior' timestamp='1392498978' post='8675393']
Or you could just buy [url="http://www.budgetgolf.com/TaylorMade-TP-Black.html"]the real thing[/url] for $18 instead of looking for the best copy.
[/quote]

Those are "Tour Proven" Blacks not "Tour Preferred." Different sidestamp and everything. I bought them through Budget Golf and was disappointed when I discovered it was not the same ball so I returned them.

[th6252]

Played the blacks for a season and a half when the red ldp was the sh!t. I'm surprised at the recs for the chrome. IMO, they play nothing alike and feel is completely different.

For me, the closest ball out right now would by the hex black. Feels a bit clickier but very similar playing characteristics to the TP black.

[Imp]

[quote name='boogie7711' timestamp='1392146367' post='8645505']

I'm thinking the Tour Preferred is the latest version of the TP Red LDP, four piece and recently removed from USGA conforming list.
[/quote]Might be interesting to see how the Project(a) performs in relation to the TDP Black.

The Tour Preferred is listed on the USGA Conforming Ball List
The TDP/Red is no longer listed.

(Just want to clarify the statement above because I read it that the Tour Preferred was removed, not the TDP Red. )

--kC

[dffjunior]

[quote name='502 to Right' timestamp='1392502638' post='8675745']
[quote name='dffjunior' timestamp='1392498978' post='8675393']
Or you could just buy [url="http://www.budgetgolf.com/TaylorMade-TP-Black.html"]the real thing[/url] for $18 instead of looking for the best copy.
[/quote]

Those are "Tour Proven" Blacks not "Tour Preferred." Different sidestamp and everything. I bought them through Budget Golf and was disappointed when I discovered it was not the same ball so I returned them.
[/quote]

Wow, so they make two different balls and label them the same way. That's shady stuff right there. I wasn't even aware there were different "TP" models out there, and I bet many other aren't either.

[mikes919]

RBZ urethane is way softer-feeling.

[Brianbigoats]

The blacks have been replaced by the four peice TP the Reds by the 5 peice TPX

[Imp]

[quote name='dffjunior' timestamp='1392565173' post='8679213']
[quote name='502 to Right' timestamp='1392502638' post='8675745']
[quote name='dffjunior' timestamp='1392498978' post='8675393']
Or you could just buy [url="http://www.budgetgolf.com/TaylorMade-TP-Black.html"]the real thing[/url] for $18 instead of looking for the best copy.
[/quote]

Those are "Tour Proven" Blacks not "Tour Preferred." Different sidestamp and everything. I bought them through Budget Golf and was disappointed when I discovered it was not the same ball so I returned them.
[/quote]

Wow, so they make two different balls and label them the same way. That's shady stuff right there. I wasn't even aware there were different "TP" models out there, and I bet many other aren't either.
[/quote]Or they're not really TM and counterfeit?

--kC