Titleist's new 915D2 and 915D3 Drivers: In-hand photos

[DeadMau5 Golfer]

Wonder if they will sell the head w/o the shaft?

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='DeadMau5 Golfer' timestamp='1407193167' post='9857395']
Wonder if they will sell the head w/o the shaft?
[/quote]

They will never do that. Titleist is not a component company.

[renatto]

Ebay the day after

[Llortamaisey]

The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.

[RonSwanson]

[quote name='Llortamaisey' timestamp='1407197075' post='9857849']
The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.
[/quote]

Glad this can finally be put to rest.

[Krt22]

[quote name='Llortamaisey' timestamp='1407197075' post='9857849']
The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.
[/quote]

Im sure the golfwrx big hitters will think the 95MSI version is a wet noodle.

[AUDuffer]

[quote name='RonSwanson' timestamp='1407197218' post='9857867']
[quote name='Llortamaisey' timestamp='1407197075' post='9857849']
The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.
[/quote]

Glad this can finally be put to rest.
[/quote]

The best part I realized is I never said it was the tour version, just that it was a Rogue. FWIW, Titlesiat is supposed to have an exclusive deal for the shaft until some time next spring.

[JaxBeachNole]

[quote name='Krt22' timestamp='1407198127' post='9857957']
[quote name='Llortamaisey' timestamp='1407197075' post='9857849']
The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.
[/quote]

Im sure the golfwrx big hitters will think the 95MSI version is a wet noodle.
[/quote]

I haven't hit either one but I can confirm that's what WRX will say.

[SJP1]

Wonder what the real-world difference between 95MSI and 125 MSI is to a good, player, i.e. 5HCP down.

Also wonder which would have the bigger impact on price, 95MSI Vs 125MSI, or, extremely limited quantities/ultra rarity Vs mass market production.

[scratchswinger]

[quote name='AUDuffer' timestamp='1407200676' post='9858337']
[quote name='RonSwanson' timestamp='1407197218' post='9857867']
[quote name='Llortamaisey' timestamp='1407197075' post='9857849']
The 915 I hit with the Rogue said "95 MSI" for what it's worth. Clearly not the $700 125 MSI.
[/quote]

Glad this can finally be put to rest.
[/quote]

The best part I realized is I never said it was the tour version, just that it was a Rogue. FWIW, Titlesiat is supposed to have an exclusive deal for the shaft until some time next spring.
[/quote]

Yeah I know you didn't. Another guy insinuated that I was wrong because I said the Rouge would not be a stock offering. I guess it's my bad for not clarifying that the $700 shaft would not be the stock shaft on a $400 club.

[SJP1]

I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?

[rbhan12]

[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.

[SJP1]

[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407207586' post='9859323']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.
[/quote]

Thanks, I read some stuff earlier in the thread to this effect RE: the manufacturing specifics.

What I was wondering though is what difference the 95MSI and 125MSI might have in actuality, when put in play, if anything.

[rbhan12]

[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407207952' post='9859367']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407207586' post='9859323']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.
[/quote]

Thanks, I read some stuff earlier in the thread to this effect RE: the manufacturing specifics.

What I was wondering though is what difference the 95MSI and 125MSI might have in actuality, when put in play, if anything.
[/quote]

Most likely just the perceived stiffness, considering the 125 is stronger graphite than the 95.

[SJP1]

[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407208052' post='9859377']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407207952' post='9859367']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407207586' post='9859323']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.
[/quote]

Thanks, I read some stuff earlier in the thread to this effect RE: the manufacturing specifics.

What I was wondering though is what difference the 95MSI and 125MSI might have in actuality, when put in play, if anything.
[/quote]

Most likely just the perceived stiffness, considering the 125 is stronger graphite than the 95.
[/quote]

Thanks. Obviously cost is part of it, but could that strength reduction also be to help Aldila get the Rogue down to the correct bend/torque profiles when it comes to making softer shafts than X-Stiff (i.e. taking a tour spec shaft and making it mass market friendly)?

[rbhan12]

[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407208313' post='9859403']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407208052' post='9859377']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407207952' post='9859367']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407207586' post='9859323']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.
[/quote]

Thanks, I read some stuff earlier in the thread to this effect RE: the manufacturing specifics.

What I was wondering though is what difference the 95MSI and 125MSI might have in actuality, when put in play, if anything.
[/quote]

Most likely just the perceived stiffness, considering the 125 is stronger graphite than the 95.
[/quote]

Thanks. Obviously cost is part of it, but could that strength reduction also be to help Aldila get the Rogue down to the correct bend/torque profiles when it comes to making softer shafts than X-Stiff (i.e. taking a tour spec shaft and making it mass market friendly)?
[/quote]

Well yes and no. If you want it to be a little "softer" then yes you can use the weaker graphite. However if you look at it in the sense that using stronger graphite means having to use less at certain areas of a shaft, it gives greater control over the bend profile. Either vantage point works depending on what you're trying to do.

[rbhan12]

[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407208313' post='9859403']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407208052' post='9859377']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407207952' post='9859367']
[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1407207586' post='9859323']
[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407203984' post='9858853']
I think that debate's been squared away now fellas. Can we move on? Maybe someone knows something about how the 95MSI actually plays, or might play? Is it comparable to anything? If you've hit it, how did it feel?
[/quote]

95 MSI means million pounds per square inch. They have a very high tensile strength, which means that a manufacturer can use less graphite to make certain areas stiffer, giving them greater flexibility. For reference, the Diamana X Limited shafts released a few years ago were something to the tune of 80 MSI. Basically, 90 MSI will suffice just fine.

You may have heard of pitch fibers, these are the same.
[/quote]

Thanks, I read some stuff earlier in the thread to this effect RE: the manufacturing specifics.

What I was wondering though is what difference the 95MSI and 125MSI might have in actuality, when put in play, if anything.
[/quote]

Most likely just the perceived stiffness, considering the 125 is stronger graphite than the 95.
[/quote]

Thanks. Obviously cost is part of it, but could that strength reduction also be to help Aldila get the Rogue down to the correct bend/torque profiles when it comes to making softer shafts than X-Stiff (i.e. taking a tour spec shaft and making it mass market friendly)?
[/quote]

Well yes and no. If you want it to be a little "softer" then yes you can use the weaker graphite. However if you look at it in the sense that using stronger graphite means having to use less at certain areas of a shaft, it gives greater control over the bend profile. Either vantage point works depending on what you're trying to do.

[SJP1]

[size=4]OK, thanks.[/size]

Have you hit one? Either 125MSI or 95MSI? If so how did you find it?

[rbhan12]

[quote name='SJP1' timestamp='1407211642' post='9859765']
[size=4]OK, thanks.[/size]

Have you hit one? Either 125MSI or 95MSI? If so how did you find it?
[/quote]

Lol nope, neither.

[Pure745]

LOL, unreal.

[rbhan12]

Real.

[pr1mo990]

I think I can see why people are confused on all the different "Rogue" shafts out there. There was the first one - the $700 (didn't they say when it first came out it would cost $1000 if it ever came to retail?) Tour Only 125MSI Rogue, then Aldila actually released some to the public for $600 and I don't know if it was different from the original (http://www.fairwaygo...oducts_id=77659) then they announced the Rogue Black, which is 110 MSI (thread here: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1046941-aldila-rogue-black/) and now there's talk of a 95 MSI shaft being stock on the 915's... can we just say there's a few different ones and anyone could be referring to any of them at any point? Phew

 

[AUDuffer]

I think I can see why people are confused on all the different "Rogue" shafts out there. There was the first one - the $700 (didn't they say when it first came out it would cost $1000 if it ever came to retail?) Tour Only 125MSI Rogue, then Aldila actually released some to the public for $600 and I don't know if it was different from the original (http://www.fairwaygo...oducts_id=77659) then they announced the Rogue Black, which is 110 MSI (thread here: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1046941-aldila-rogue-black/) and now there's talk of a 95 MSI shaft being stock on the 915's... can we just say there's a few different ones and anyone could be referring to any of them at any point? Phew

 

 

Now where's the fun in that? And I learned some good stuff in here!

[Lesmond]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1407193353' post='9857419']
[quote name='DeadMau5 Golfer' timestamp='1407193167' post='9857395']
Wonder if they will sell the head w/o the shaft?
[/quote]

They will never do that. Titleist is not a component company.
[/quote]

Does any company do that? Head-only sales?

[Llortamaisey]

[quote name='Lesmond' timestamp='1407228970' post='9860469'][quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1407193353' post='9857419']
[quote name='DeadMau5 Golfer' timestamp='1407193167' post='9857395']
Wonder if they will sell the head w/o the shaft?
[/quote]

They will never do that. Titleist is not a component company.
[/quote]

Does any company do that? Head-only sales?[/quote]

Krank, Bang, Wishon, Snake Eyes, Alpha, MOI, Maltby, KZG, Scratch, and I'm sure there's many more I missed. Callaway use to sell the iMix head only.

[rbhan12]

[quote name='pr1mo990' timestamp='1407217174' post='9860105']
I think I can see why people are confused on all the different "Rogue" shafts out there. There was the first one - the $700 (didn't they say when it first came out it would cost $1000 if it ever came to retail?) Tour Only 125MSI Rogue, then Aldila actually released some to the public for $600 and I don't know if it was different from the original ([url="http://www.fairwaygolfusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=77659"]http://www.fairwaygo...oducts_id=77659[/url]) then they announced the Rogue Black, which is 110 MSI (thread here: [url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1046941-aldila-rogue-black/"]http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1046941-aldila-rogue-black/[/url]) and now there's talk of a 95 MSI shaft being stock on the 915's... can we just say there's a few different ones and anyone could be referring to any of them at any point? Phew

[/quote]

Lol lots of heat over a shaft. If the 95 MSI option does pan out, that'd be sweet. Its still a super high end graphite weave with oober high modulus.

[ifixclubs]

Got to test the 915 d2 and d3 yesterday with the new diamana shafts and was very impressed with them...feel was outstanding and spinrate on the d3 was definitely lower than the 913...spun about 500-1000 rpms less than the previous model in the d3 and d2 spun maybe 300-500 rpms less...

[jbrunone]

[quote name='ifixclubs' timestamp='1407266005' post='9863949']
Got to test the 915 d2 and d3 yesterday with the new diamana shafts and was very impressed with them...feel was outstanding and spinrate on the d3 was definitely lower than the 913...spun about 500-1000 rpms less than the previous model in the d3 and d2 spun maybe 300-500 rpms less...
[/quote]

a 1000?! holy cow

[Aviador Naval]

[quote name='jbrunone' timestamp='1407269494' post='9864443']
[quote name='ifixclubs' timestamp='1407266005' post='9863949']
Got to test the 915 d2 and d3 yesterday with the new diamana shafts and was very impressed with them...feel was outstanding and spinrate on the d3 was definitely lower than the 913...spun about 500-1000 rpms less than the previous model in the d3 and d2 spun maybe 300-500 rpms less...
[/quote]

a 1000?! holy cow
[/quote]

I'm skeptical that is any type of aggregate difference but if it is, I predict it is a flop.

There are no free lunches. The 913 series doesnt actually spin that much when properly struck. A reduction that much is moving into SLDR territory which means bring on the complete lack of forgiveness across the face.

At least it will look, sound, and feel great as it sends a knuckle ball careening into the short right rough...

EDIT: not implying ifixclubs is telling a whopper - just hoping the recollection is imperfect from what I'm sure was a dynamic event.

[ragu421]

I can NOT wait to try this one! I'm on my second 913 D2 ( nothing broken, just liked the idea of two lofts ) and don't think I've ever been dis satisfied with a Titleist driver and the 913 D2 is THE best I've ever hit. The 983K was equally impressive. The 915 is appealing to me because of the "Reflex channel" (for lack of the proper term). I play RBladez tour or "tp" irons and really like the feel. The increase in distance(about two thirds of a club) could be because the lofts may be bent a club stronger but the "FEEL" is what is so good. I use the KB tour steel shafts also which are similar to the Rifle shaft. But Titleist has come up with a beautiful driver. Sets up nice and square but there is adjustability for those who desire that. No funky or distracting colors or crown markings. Titleist will offer the full gamut of shafts with most being factory options. If you insist on an Oban then I'm certain Titleist can and will custom order it for you. Another thing about Titleist drivers, that isn't performance related. Title it's doesn't release ten drivers a year, devaluing the model, YOU just bought, to a very insulting couple of dollars. I also very highly recommend getting fitted. It will only take a few min. and you will learn more about your swing than previously imagined. You will come away with your "ideal" loft, lie and shaft recommendations. I can not stress how important that half hour or so is.
Just like every driver that preceded it ( sans the 907 IMHO ) this driver SCREAMS confidence. Being aesthetically beautiful is half the battle. If she performs like an upgraded or "hotter" not just "different" 913 D2.
Anyone know of any release dates??