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[quote name='Pete Paxhia' timestamp='1408416072' post='9962035']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408413216' post='9961503']
Did they announce the price point of these irons?
[/quote]I think $1,200 $1,050 $799
[/quote]

$1200 for the blades with plain jane shafts? Wow? I'm scared to ask what recoils would cost in these heads...

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[quote name='AUTIGER07' timestamp='1408415425' post='9961903']
If the club looks good from address, feels good, and performs does it really matter if the swoosh that can't be seen during a swing is red, black, vapor green, or puke yellow?
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I like my clubs to look cool in my WITB photos

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I think these look awesome...can't wait to order a set of pro combos...love that they kept dg pro standard too

Interesting how they used geometry to move the cg instead of tungsten/other materials like other companies

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[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined#/inline/32655"]http://nikeinc.com/n...d#/inline/32655[/url]

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Vokey 58-10, 60-8

Miura KM 007 & Scotty

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[quote name='HipCheck' timestamp='1408416246' post='9962077']
Things to come...

[attachment=2382165:image.jpg]
[/quote]
Oh, now we are talking!

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Nike 006 Rory Proto 

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[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416369' post='9962103']
[quote name='HipCheck' timestamp='1408416246' post='9962077']
Things to come...

[attachment=2382165:image.jpg]
[/quote]

Hip, unsheathe that bad boy!!!!
[/quote]I am so excited

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.

Smoke 9* GD IZ 5s
Smoke 🔹🔹🔹15* GD IZ 6s
Smoke 19*GD IZ 7s
T150's 5-PW KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 50/12F KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 54/10S KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 58/08M KBS Tour
TM Spider Tour X

Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto 
Nike 006 Rory Proto 

PRO V1 #36 or #70

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[quote name='MNNikeGuy' timestamp='1408416440' post='9962119']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.
[/quote]

Gotcha. I wonder what shaft upgrades they will offer for the PCs and blades?

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They never make nice head covers wtf can't they at least copy the titleist 913 line

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[quote name='DavePelz4' timestamp='1408416493' post='9962125']
Maybe TW asked for new clubs to be designed to compensate for his Foley inspired swing and the recent results.
[/quote]I hate Foley. Stupid glasses

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416529' post='9962129']
[quote name='MNNikeGuy' timestamp='1408416440' post='9962119']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.
[/quote]

Gotcha. I wonder what shaft upgrades they will offer for the PCs and blades?
[/quote]
Looks like suggested and not MAP. Plus that PC price shows 3-A (9 clubs unless a typo).

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[color=#000000][b]TM 2016 M1 3(15) w/KK Black 70 S [/b][/color]
[b][color=#0000ff]TM Rescue 11 3(18) w/NVS Org Next Gen 85 S
Nike VPC 4-PW w/Nippon Modus Tour 120 Stiff[/color][/b]
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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416529' post='9962129']
[quote name='MNNikeGuy' timestamp='1408416440' post='9962119']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.
[/quote]

Gotcha. I wonder what shaft upgrades they will offer for the PCs and blades?
[/quote]
I'd guess all the shafts that they offered for the MM's. Nike will get you any shafts you want.

Smoke 9* GD IZ 5s
Smoke 🔹🔹🔹15* GD IZ 6s
Smoke 19*GD IZ 7s
T150's 5-PW KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 50/12F KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 54/10S KBS Tour
SM10 Nickel 58/08M KBS Tour
TM Spider Tour X

Nike 006 Paul Casey Proto 
Nike 006 Rory Proto 

PRO V1 #36 or #70

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]

Similar to titleist ap2 being more expensive to mbs.

Stealth 2+ 9* - Ventus TR Blue 6x
Taylormade Stealth 2+ 15* - Ventus TR Blue 7x
Taylormade Stealth UDI 3 iron - X100
Taylormade P770 4-5 iron - X100

Taylormade P7MC 6-pw - X100
Taylormade MG3 - 50 SB, 56 SB, 60 LB
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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416529' post='9962129']
[quote name='MNNikeGuy' timestamp='1408416440' post='9962119']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.
[/quote]

Gotcha. I wonder what shaft upgrades they will offer for the PCs and blades?
[/quote]when I ordered the 2.0 forged they had about 12-15 shafts. The nippons were a little light for me I went with the project xpxi

Nike covert driver
Nike VRS 2.0 4-p project x pxi 6.0
Nike forged wedges
Nike Mod 30 putter
Nike RZN white
Bushnell X7 pro

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[quote name='Pete Paxhia' timestamp='1408416637' post='9962147']
[quote name='DavePelz4' timestamp='1408416493' post='9962125']
Maybe TW asked for new clubs to be designed to compensate for his Foley inspired swing and the recent results.
[/quote]I hate Foley. Stupid glasses
[/quote]
Do u hate foley because tiger is playing bad? Would u say the same thing if tiger won a major with him? Just curios...I'm a tiger fan as well

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]

Similar to titleist ap2 being more expensive to mbs. [quote name='HipCheck' timestamp='1408416246' post='9962077']
Things to come...

[attachment=2382165:image.jpg]
[/quote]

Can you just tell us if they kept the covert hole in the bottom? Will be an interesting q&a with nike if they ditched it already

Stealth 2+ 9* - Ventus TR Blue 6x
Taylormade Stealth 2+ 15* - Ventus TR Blue 7x
Taylormade Stealth UDI 3 iron - X100
Taylormade P770 4-5 iron - X100

Taylormade P7MC 6-pw - X100
Taylormade MG3 - 50 SB, 56 SB, 60 LB
Taylormade Juno TP long neck

Custom 1/1 Rory Nike Oven proto 006, Oven Method Matter B2/01

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Before I read more and just get upset at the close minded, I can't wait to hit these! I think they look pretty interesting and I still want to get my hands on these things and hit the crap out of them. I want to see the benefits of the new muscle design and compare them to my MP-4s. The pics of Tigers set from page 20 are incredible, they look pretty good in my opinion and I am going to be looking forward very much to the opportunity to hit these things. Nike makes great feeling, great performing clubs and I have absolutely no doubt these will be more of the same. Hate on haters!

Taylormade M1 460 - Aldila Tour Blue
Taylormade M1 fairway - Aldila Tour Blue
Taylormade M1 hybrids 4&5 - Aldila Rouge 110
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[quote name='Pete Paxhia' timestamp='1408416726' post='9962163']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416529' post='9962129']
[quote name='MNNikeGuy' timestamp='1408416440' post='9962119']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1408416317' post='9962097']
[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]

Pro combo irons are more than the blade irons. Very interesting..
[/quote]
Yeah, they'll sell more PC then blades. Just like Titleist and the Ap2's.
[/quote]

Gotcha. I wonder what shaft upgrades they will offer for the PCs and blades?
[/quote]when I ordered the 2.0 forged they had about 12-15 shafts. The nippons were a little light for me I went with the project xpxi
[/quote]

Did they have recoils by chance? Id love to test the blades with recoils when they come out.

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I have played Nike irons since 04 (04 then the 10 PC's). If these perform they will be in the bag, really looking forward to trying these out.

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Ping G430 Max 15 - Ping Tour 2.0 Black 75
TM Sim 19° - Accra TZ6 85h
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[quote name='rgb66rgb' timestamp='1408416157' post='9962057']
[url="http://nikeinc.com/nike-golf/news/nike-golf-unveils-vapor-iron-franchise-the-iron-reimagined"]http://nikeinc.com/n...iron-reimagined[/url]

The Vapor irons will be available on nike.com and at select retailers Oct. 31.
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold X/S/R (RH/LH);
MSRP: $1199.99 3-PW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Pro Combo Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-AW; True Temper DG Pro (RH/LH)
MSRP $1,319.99 4-AW Steel
[b] [b]Vapor Speed Irons[/b][/b]

Specifications: 3-SW; True Temper Dynalite 105 Steel S/R (RH/LH); MRC Fubuki Z graphite S/R/A/W
MSRP: $959.99 4-AW Steel; $1079.99 4-AW Graphite; $944.99 5-PW Women’s
[/quote]
After all of the other bashing, I will say that I think they look a lot better in the images provided on the Nike release in comparison with the images on the Nike Golf website... looks way more highlighter green rather than slightly yellow snow color.

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[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1408416879' post='9962195']
I can't imagine these irons being any different than any other iron. They may look a bit different, but I would think performance wise one wouldn't see anything radical.

I think it's really difficult to manufacture any "game changers" these days: be it drivers, woods, hybrids, or irons.
[/quote]
Well tiger will be bagging them so they have to be some improvements for him to make the switch

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