A Sixty Year Old's Frustration at the Lack of Interest in the Champion's Tour

[seis]

I know it was shoved to a late coverage time but was no one else impressed at the great final round scores posted by Freddy and Billy Andrade. For Christ sakes Freddy shoots a course record final round, chips in for eagle on the final hole and Andrade follows him with an eagle to force a playoff and not a peep on the Tour Talk board. I am disappointed to say the least.

 

And I guess as an add on nothing regarding Ms. Ernst's first career victory in thrilling fashion holding back half of the Great Korean nation golf dynansty on the LPGA tour prior to the Champs coverage.

[monkeynaut]

[quote name='seis' timestamp='1409596753' post='10045299']
I know it was shoved to a late coverage time but was no one else impressed at the great final round scores posted by Freddy and Billy Andrade. For Christ sakes Freddy shoots a course record final round, chips in for eagle on the final hole and Andrade follows him with an eagle to force a playoff and not a peep on the Tour Talk board. I am disappointed to say the least.

And I guess as an add on nothing regarding Ms. Ernst's first career victory in thrilling fashion holding back half of the Great Korean nation golf dynansty on the LPGA tour prior to the Champs coverage.
[/quote]
Why didn't you start the thread?

[youngwaldo]

I think those are great news but unfortunately if its not Tiger or cool new equipment it just gets looked over.

Wk

[matthewsiv]

You are correct.

Both tournaments were worth watching.

But Freddie and Billy Andrade was great golf and a exciting play off.

[PGArox]

I think the Tour Talk forum kind of exists as the default PGA TOUR/European Tour section. You won't find much talk in here about the web.com, Champions, Challenge, Sunshine, Japan, Asian or Australasian tours.

There [i]is[/i] a sub forum devoted to the LPGA Tour, and I'm sure Ms. Ernst's victory was greatly discussed there.

[martinbns]

Even though I am old enough to play the Senior Tour, it ranks third, actually 4th behind the PGA, LPGA and European tour in interest to me.

I think professional sports are for athletes in their prime.

[PGArox]

[quote name='martinbns' timestamp='1409598219' post='10045385']
Even though I am old enough to play the Senior Tour, it ranks third, actually 4th behind the PGA, LPGA and European tour in interest to me.

[b]I think professional sports are for athletes in their prime.[/b]
[/quote]

Not only this, I think most people prefer to watch the best of the best; the elite players.

I think if college or high school golf tournaments were televised they would draw very small viewing audiences.

[Dill Pickleson]

I'd rather watch women's basketball.

[erik81]

I like the Champions tour tbh, really enjoy watching my old heroes play. Especially Monty, I love Monty.

[shanx]

I tuned in for a bit, lotsa guys on that tour from my era of PGA players (Andrade, Couples, Cook, etc). That tour needs some help though, no Jack or Arnie, Mex, Player or Chi Chi. Most of the guys playing it now were just average players when I started following golf seriously in the late 80's early 90's.

[Sean2]

I watched the LPGA. Was impressed that Ms. Ernst pulled off the playoff win, despite bogeying 17 and 18.

There is a thread about this tournament...not about the Champions Tour one though.

[2putttom]

If there's nothing too sink our teeth into or some half baked rumor about a pro's shoe size grew while he was administering deer antler piss, there no interest from the under 40 crowd. I on the other hand watched PGA, Web.com, LPGA and a half bottle of Tanqueray disappear.

[twixster888]

[quote name='seis' timestamp='1409596753' post='10045299']
I know it was shoved to a late coverage time but was no one else impressed at the great final round scores posted by Freddy and Billy Andrade. For Christ sakes Freddy shoots a course record final round, chips in for eagle on the final hole and Andrade follows him with an eagle to force a playoff and not a peep on the Tour Talk board. I am disappointed to say the least.

And I guess as an add on nothing regarding Ms. Ernst's first career victory in thrilling fashion holding back half of the Great Korean nation golf dynansty on the LPGA tour prior to the Champs coverage.
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TGC needs to do something about their current telecast crew that they have going for the Champions Tour. They are dry and boring (voice included). They need a new cast with some more energy. just my opinion. If Freddie is not in the mix, i no watch.

[Shambles]

[quote name='shanx' timestamp='1409605752' post='10045961']
I tuned in for a bit, lotsa guys on that tour from my era of PGA players (Andrade, Couples, Cook, etc). That tour needs some help though, no Jack or Arnie, Mex, Player or Chi Chi. Most of the guys playing it now were just average players when I started following golf seriously in the late 80's early 90's.
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Likewise.

Freddy is probably the last of the golfers I was most interested in. The leftovers were also rans back in the day and are just as new to me these days as the current crop of PGA players. However I also admit that for the most part, I'd rather be on the fairway than watching TV.



Shambles

[setter02]

[quote name='Naughty Mazz' timestamp='1409598796' post='10045413']
I'd rather watch women's basketball.
[/quote]

Wow, that's pretty low. Women's basketball isn't even a sport I don't think, well at least I hope not because it is terrible to watch the supposedly best woman on the planet at their sport could get smoked by the best 14-15 yd old buys in the US.

Either way, its not like people are going to sit and watch a ton of golf on TV, you can only handle so much. So if your going to watch the PGA, your highly unlikely going to sit and watch the coverage for hours on end of another event. Much less when you can just look up the results.

[gators78]

I'm a total golf nut, and can't really put my finger on why this is the case, but the past year or so has really felt like golf overload. It's not just the Champions Tour, I have trouble lately watching any golf that's not a closely contested major.

Really can't put my finger on why though...

[Playaway]

Golf swings are like babes in a way. If you see enough 20 year olds, you don't need to see any 50 year olds.

[vjswing]

I was going to start a thread Sunday evening, just to point out the fact the course where they played the Champions Tour event had a mats-only range!

WHAT UP WITH THAT?

[FredCouplesFan]

[quote name='Playaway' timestamp='1409668963' post='10049573']
Golf swings are like babes in a way. If you see enough 20 year olds, you don't need to see any 50 year olds.
[/quote]

Name a 20 year old whose swing looks as good as Freddie's.

[mr_divots]

For short game clinics, the Champions Tour guys, a lot of them probably still have vastly superior short games to the young guys on tour. Freddy definitely case in point.

Saw Austin Earnst win the LPGA event. Nice win.

For the most part, however, its September in MN and time is ticking down for nice weather. TV in general doesn't get turned on much.
Tee time at 1:00. See yas later!

[HackerVance]

I like to watch the Champion's tour events. I'll also watch the LPGA, Euro Tour, Web.com etc, I have more interest in the PGA Tour. One of the problems watching golf is that if you are rooting for a particular player, the chances of that player winning or even contending are very small. Unlike most sports, there are 130 plus competitors and not just two teams. Your team usually has close to a 50% chance to win, this is not really the case in golf. I think that this is one of the reasons that so many people have rooted for Tiger Woods, there was always a good chance that he would be contending. I've decided that I'll just watch golf because I like to and not necessarily get wrapper up in who wins. I'm usually disappointed if I do. Oh, and I can't watch women's basketball.

[Playaway]

[quote name='FredCouplesFan' timestamp='1409671722' post='10049811']
[quote name='Playaway' timestamp='1409668963' post='10049573']
Golf swings are like babes in a way. If you see enough 20 year olds, you don't need to see any 50 year olds.
[/quote]

Name a 20 year old whose swing looks as good as Freddie's.
[/quote]

Freddie's a hag.

[Mr22putt]

Even though I am old enough to play the Senior Tour, it ranks third, actually 4th behind the PGA, LPGA and European tour in interest to me.

 

I think professional sports are for athletes in their prime.

 

Not only this, I think most people prefer to watch the best of the best; the elite players.

And I think most of us would rather watch this:

 

over this:

[curitiba]

[quote name='mr_divots' timestamp='1409671728' post='10049813']
For short game clinics, the Champions Tour guys, a lot of them probably still have vastly superior short games to the young guys on tour. Freddy definitely case in point.

Saw Austin Earnst win the LPGA event. Nice win.

For the most part, however, its September in MN and time is ticking down for nice weather. TV in general doesn't get turned on much.
Tee time at 1:00. See yas later!
[/quote]

Do you really believe that senior players have a better short game than PGA tour players?

[LOA]

The Champions tour needs to drop the age requirement to 45. They would get those pro's who can't win on the PGA Tour and still have some name draw.

Their whole model is kinda stupid because its really a closed shop.

[502 to Right]

[quote name='seis' timestamp='1409596753' post='10045299']
I know it was shoved to a late coverage time but was no one else impressed at the great final round scores posted by Freddy and Billy Andrade. For Christ sakes Freddy shoots a course record final round, chips in for eagle on the final hole and Andrade follows him with an eagle to force a playoff and not a peep on the Tour Talk board. I am disappointed to say the least.

And I guess as an add on nothing regarding Ms. Ernst's first career victory in thrilling fashion holding back half of the Great Korean nation golf dynansty on the LPGA tour prior to the Champs coverage.
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Christ doesn't have anything to with the Champions Tour.

[mr_divots]

[quote name='curitiba' timestamp='1409691246' post='10051727']
[quote name='mr_divots' timestamp='1409671728' post='10049813']
For short game clinics, the Champions Tour guys, a lot of them probably still have vastly superior short games to the young guys on tour. Freddy definitely case in point.

Saw Austin Earnst win the LPGA event. Nice win.

For the most part, however, its September in MN and time is ticking down for nice weather. TV in general doesn't get turned on much.
Tee time at 1:00. See yas later!
[/quote]

Do you really believe that senior players have a better short game than PGA tour players?
[/quote]
Yep. Freddie Couples, Bernhard Langer, lots of very talented players that have won the biggest events. I have no doubt those guys could short game circles around a lot of the current PGA rank and file. I'm only referring to the top, competitive seniors, who are still wildly good.

[Shiram]

I love the champs tour and I always tune in to watch Freddie.

Not a lot of talk about those guys on hear - never noticed.

[c7015]

only so much time to watch golf so I want to see the best guys play on the biggest stage ... what would rory shoot on the same course in the same conditions ?

perhaps its my age but I didn't grow up idolizing the guys playing now and for the most part the guys dominating now did not even have that great of a regular career (save Langer and a few others) so its hard for me to think wow these guys are the best of the best instead of the best of the rest left. (/Dr Seuss)

[wts]

I was at the last champions tour and the finish was great, you couldn't ask for better. Let's remember that these guys aren't in their 20's anymore, but they can still play the game.

Actually the driving range had both both mats and real grass. I think it was changed this year because there were lots of complaints that patrons couldn't watch them warm up last year because the grass driving range was in the valley and they only allowed players down there. So this year they gave the players the choice of practicing were ever they wanted. Some went down in the valley for the real grass and tohers stayed up on the mats so patrons could watch. Freddie, the walrus and many more practiced on the mats.