It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[sethdavidsdad]

Mark,
I have always played dg 300s until recently I had c-taper s+. They feel way to stiff. I hit the Nippon 1150 and liked the feel but lost too many right. Hit the 120x and seemed to provide good feel and better control. Which you think would be closure to dg 300s the 125s or 120x?

[Bogey_Fly_By]

[quote name='sethdavidsdad' timestamp='1440986556' post='12237020']Mark,
I have always played dg 300s until recently I had c-taper s+. They feel way to stiff. I hit the Nippon 1150 and liked the feel but lost too many right. Hit the 120x and seemed to provide good feel and better control. Which you think would be closure to dg 300s the 125s or 120x?[/quote]

The 125 is the closest to dg profile that Nippon has.

[Foreleft]

[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1440889140' post='12231502']
Second Demo time with the Pro Modus 105 S yesterday in the Ping i #7 Demo.

I really can't speak highly enough about this shaft. I know it's light, but in spite of that, the weight belies any normal issues some golfers may find with a lighter shaft. I don't know how Nippon do it, but they really have made a package that in spite of its weight, wants to help the ball to elevate quickly, but just hold it's line. It's neither a harsh shaft or indeed, soft to flex. It can hold enough energy in transition without feeling 'lost', and yet stores that energy so effortlessly until you need it, and it does it in a quiet way. No big kick, no drama at impact, just lets go at the right time.

If anyone is worried about overpowering this shaft, don't worry. Go try it if you can, most will not be disappointed I'm sure.

I just hope more OEM's will consider adding this option to their Custom shaft ranges for any new imminent Iron releases they may have coming through.
[/quote]

Great summary! Received my Ping I-E irons with Modus 105 and the combo makes its effortless to make good swings. Was skeptical at first that a shaft in this weight range would hold up, but it certainly does.

[jonn443]

[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1440986909' post='12237058']
[quote name='sethdavidsdad' timestamp='1440986556' post='12237020']Mark,
I have always played dg 300s until recently I had c-taper s+. They feel way to stiff. I hit the Nippon 1150 and liked the feel but lost too many right. Hit the 120x and seemed to provide good feel and better control. Which you think would be closure to dg 300s the 125s or 120x?[/quote]

The 125 is the closest to dg profile that Nippon has.
[/quote]

Yup, and they feel and perform fantastically. I came from S300s for 20 years and these are night and day better. Not even close. They are the best feeling, smoothest, longest hitting,and tightest iron shaft I have EVER used.

Game changed forever.

[GC70]

[quote name='Foreleft' timestamp='1440987768' post='12237138']
[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1440889140' post='12231502']
Second Demo time with the Pro Modus 105 S yesterday in the Ping i #7 Demo.

I really can't speak highly enough about this shaft. I know it's light, but in spite of that, the weight belies any normal issues some golfers may find with a lighter shaft. I don't know how Nippon do it, but they really have made a package that in spite of its weight, wants to help the ball to elevate quickly, but just hold it's line. It's neither a harsh shaft or indeed, soft to flex. It can hold enough energy in transition without feeling 'lost', and yet stores that energy so effortlessly until you need it, and it does it in a quiet way. No big kick, no drama at impact, just lets go at the right time.

If anyone is worried about overpowering this shaft, don't worry. Go try it if you can, most will not be disappointed I'm sure.

I just hope more OEM's will consider adding this option to their Custom shaft ranges for any new imminent Iron releases they may have coming through.
[/quote]

Great summary! Received my Ping I-E irons with Modus 105 and the combo makes its effortless to make good swings. Was skeptical at first that a shaft in this weight range would hold up, but it certainly does.
[/quote]

How do the 120's compare?

[swizbeatz]

So unlike the 120s where a lot of people go with X, are the 105 stiffs going to fit most of us?

[knickerbocker]

[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1441022253' post='12238266']
So unlike the 120s where a lot of people go with X, are the 105 stiffs going to fit most of us?
[/quote]

Did you try the 120s? How did you like them?

[jay65]

[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1441022253' post='12238266']
So unlike the 120s where a lot of people go with X, are the 105 stiffs going to fit most of us?
[/quote]

I think the 105's feel like they have a far more linear bend profile from butt to tip, whereas the 120's are very soft butt/stiff tip, so I would say yes, the 105's may fit a slightly wider audience.

[sethdavidsdad]

[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1440986909' post='12237058']
[quote name='sethdavidsdad' timestamp='1440986556' post='12237020']Mark,
I have always played dg 300s until recently I had c-taper s+. They feel way to stiff. I hit the Nippon 1150 and liked the feel but lost too many right. Hit the 120x and seemed to provide good feel and better control. Which you think would be closure to dg 300s the 125s or 120x?[/quote]

The 125 is the closest to dg profile that Nippon has.
[/quote]
[quote name='jonn443' timestamp='1440988433' post='12237196']
[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1440986909' post='12237058']
[quote name='sethdavidsdad' timestamp='1440986556' post='12237020']Mark,
I have always played dg 300s until recently I had c-taper s+. They feel way to stiff. I hit the Nippon 1150 and liked the feel but lost too many right. Hit the 120x and seemed to provide good feel and better control. Which you think would be closure to dg 300s the 125s or 120x?[/quote]

The 125 is the closest to dg profile that Nippon has.
[/quote]

Yup, and they feel and perform fantastically. I came from S300s for 20 years and these are night and day better. Not even close. They are the best feeling, smoothest, longest hitting,and tightest iron shaft I have EVER used.

Game changed forever.
[/quote]
My worry is since I have not been able to find the 125s to try I may not like them as much or get as good a results as I did with the 120x. I love the softer feel. Maybe I will get one of each. I'm thinking of possibly reshafting my clubs on my own. Never done it before like to try.

[jming]

I have some fresh 125 stiff pulls with iomics still in wrapper just yanked last night. Pm me. Haven't had time to go to bst yet.

[stk123]

Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]Depends on your weight preference. I prefer a more finesse feel in my wedges, so I went with modus 115 even though I have 125's in irons. That extra weight is great on full shots, but on those unique shots around the green I like the 115.

The 115 have a nice snappy/pop impact load/sensation. If you're strictly an s400 kinda wedge guy, then you may not like that.

[longleft]

I've been playing the modus3 tour 120 x's in a set of 714 AP2's for the last couple of years. I came from s57 and s56's with DGS300 because, well that's just what seemed to fit best at the time based on trackman/testing. I had a really difficult time synching up my swing with the s300's so my results would vary between great start lines, to high flares out to the right.

In came the tour 120's and I was finally able to consistently launch my 3/4/5/6 irons high and stop them on a dime. With gaining height in the long/mid irons I also seemed to pick up distance in the short irons. Just for a baseline my 6i (44 degrees) swing speed is right around 93mph, and I carry it about 192 yards.

Some might say that picking up distance is good, but I'm actually having a problem hitting my spots with my 8/9/pw. It has almost become ridiculous over the last few months. I'm hitting shots off clean fairway lies that are carrying almost 20 yards further than I would expect. We are talking 48 degree wedges that are flying more than 160 yards. I would typically expect my wedge to fly about 135. It's become an issue that i need to figure out.

I'd be curious to see if anybody has gone through a similar experience (and what you did to get past it). I'm a bit torn because I have never hit as many pure shots as I have with this setup, and my timing and swing are so good with this shaft that I really don't want to change. Everything about the build feels great...weight, loading of shaft, etc. I suppose I could weaken the set more than 2 degrees, or hard step/go to a stiffer flex...but i don't necessarily want to play a 130g shaft.

Has anyone experienced something similar and have any thoughts?

[swizbeatz]

[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1441024063' post='12238362']
[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1441022253' post='12238266']
So unlike the 120s where a lot of people go with X, are the 105 stiffs going to fit most of us?
[/quote]

Did you try the 120s? How did you like them?
[/quote]

Not besides hitting 3jacks, I have a set here and some heads to put them in but I'm thinking I might try the 105 first.

[DNice26]

Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!

[longleft]

[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1441121258' post='12245230']
Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!
[/quote]

It was...but a long time ago. Look at Page 7, post 196 of this thread...mark suggests that it's the 120x if I'm not mistaken.

[NRJyzr]

I thought I'd remembered Dscvrr St Louis had gone this exact route, went back and found a couple posts from him.

This might give y'all an idea on the CTaper to Modus transition.

FWIW, I believe he's also played/playing with Modus 130 and 125, not sure which is winning for him



[quote name='longleft' timestamp='1441121637' post='12245272']
[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1441121258' post='12245230']
Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!
[/quote]

It was...but a long time ago. Look at Page 7, post 196 of this thread...mark suggests that it's the 120x if I'm not mistaken.
[/quote]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1417232701' post='10516219']
I was able to get a few swings in tonight with the 6 and 7 iron in the simulator.
Main observations--- the shaft definitely launches lower than the C taperS+. I usually avg 18.5-19* LA with 6 iron...I was getting 16.5* avg. With 7 iron usually around 21*...was getting 18.5* . Spin was higher...with 6 iron...from 4300 up to 5000 and 7 iron from 5500 up to 6300. All shots were with Pro V1x.
The Modus 3 Tour 120 TX is very smooth..but different smooth than ctaper...not a big difference. .just a difference in smoothness. It is not as balanced to me as the ctaper but it is not heavy feeling either...somewhat balanced??
Overall...won't have an issue tomorrow playing this! Will be assessed on the golf course and further review coming later.i
[/quote]
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1417305086' post='10519067']
Okay...todays round...62* today, 12-14 mph winds all day. The shafts feel extremely smooth and tight...controlled at impact. They do launch noticeably lower for me, but not LOW..more Mid-Mid high, whereas my Ctapers were mid high-high..again, probably 2* lower on average. And they do spin a bit more, whereas most all my shots actually stopped at impact, and with the ctapers would also, I did have a couple come back 2-4 ft...nothing crazy, but they did. Had a couple of shots late in the round, the guys were asking for the spin to happen as I flew them a bit over the pin...LOL!
Most of my shots today were pulls, some slight, some more.. I wasn't making a great turn...which sucked since it was the best driving round I had in a long time...missed two fairways by 4 feet combined...hit the green on both of them..go figure!

Overall...they are staying put, they feel great, swing as easy as the Ctapers to me, and whereas they are launching lower, they don't feel as stiff as the ctapers, just softer with alot of control. No harsh feedback on mis-hits either, just knowledge of where the ball hit the face. The extra spin is counterbalancing the lower loft to me...they work extremely well together.

If anyone has the chance to buy one shaft and try it out, I would suggest it.

Mine are Modus 3 Tour 120 TX flex...I understand Nippon doesn't give out CPM/Frequency rates...they don't need to, to much info overload for me here...they feel right when you swing them.

Ctapers are about the closest thing to compare these to...nothing else is as smooth to me, or has the control to compare. DG doesn't compare to these in the stepped shaft arena.
[/quote]

[sethdavidsdad]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]
Where did you order? I'm being told by Mizuno they don't offer any Modus shafts. I really want the MP5's with either 120x or 125s

[stk123]

[quote name='sethdavidsdad' timestamp='1441132645' post='12246338']
[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]
Where did you order? I'm being told by Mizuno they don't offer any Modus shafts. I really want the MP5's with either 120x or 125s
[/quote]

I am getting mine retrofitted by a fitter. He charges $60 per shaft for it to spine/pure, get correct length (you would be surprised how OEM's can screw this up), and swingweights. Since he gets to keep the Mizuno supplied shaft, he only charged me $45; I supplied grips. He also gave me $100 off the mp 4 set. So all in, I am looking at $1260 instead of $1000. But I am getting a blue printed set of clubs.

[stk123]

[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1441107736' post='12244074']
[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]Depends on your weight preference. I prefer a more finesse feel in my wedges, so I went with modus 115 even though I have 125's in irons. That extra weight is great on full shots, but on those unique shots around the green I like the 115.

The 115 have a nice snappy/pop impact load/sensation. If you're strictly an s400 kinda wedge guy, then you may not like that.
[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. How are the shafts on full shots; do you think you are giving anything up as far as dispersion either lengthwise other directionally?

[otw]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]

If you have a chance try the wedge shaft from the new Modus 125 iron set. Have been using Modus 120 S since they became available. The Modus 125 is a sleeper as a wedge shaft. Put them in my my Mizuno T5s and they are a good compliment to the 120"s

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441137394' post='12246798']
[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1441107736' post='12244074']
[quote name='stk123' timestamp='1441074063' post='12243018']
Just ordered a set of MP-4's 3-PW with Modus 120X. Anybody have any experience with that combo?

I will also order a new set of MIzuno wedges, either the T5's or S5's. I plan on going with the new Modus wedge shafts. Can someone please give me a recommendation on whether I should go with the Modus Wedge 115's or 125's? Can't find any information on these wedge shafts to help make a decision.
[/quote]Depends on your weight preference. I prefer a more finesse feel in my wedges, so I went with modus 115 even though I have 125's in irons. That extra weight is great on full shots, but on those unique shots around the green I like the 115.

The 115 have a nice snappy/pop impact load/sensation. If you're strictly an s400 kinda wedge guy, then you may not like that.
[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. How are the shafts on full shots; do you think you are giving anything up as far as dispersion either lengthwise other directionally?
[/quote]Neither, I actually feel my dispersion has improved. I'm coming from spb in the wedges and thought the 125 would be better, but last time I tried 130+ gram shaft in a wedge I didn't like the load feel.

Same flight and distance, better dispersion, and easier load than my previous blue.

[knickerbocker]

[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1441121258' post='12245230']
Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!
[/quote]

The Modus 120X, possibly hardstepped one time would be closest, but will spin more.

Super Peening Blue S hardstepped would be closer.

[Bogey_Fly_By]

So here is a question. The super peening blue is supposed to be similar to the c tapers, but quite a few pages back there was a shaft review saying the super peening blue and the 125's are almost identical in the profile so wouldn't the 125's be closer to c tapers instead of the 120's. I found the 120's to balloon into heaven similar to a kbs tour would but slightly lower with a touch less spin.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1441330637' post='12260578']
So here is a question. The super peening blue is supposed to be similar to the c tapers, but quite a few pages back there was a shaft review saying the super peening blue and the 125's are almost identical in the profile so wouldn't the 125's be closer to c tapers instead of the 120's. I found the 120's to balloon into heaven similar to a kbs tour would but slightly lower with a touch less spin.
[/quote]
Demo

[Guv280984]

I am going to have a set of Modus 3 125 Stiff Shafts this week Uncut and willing to ship to USA at no postage cost. They will be 3-PW.

Anyone interested then PM me

[swizbeatz]

anyone with 105's?

[markheardjr]

[quote name='longleft' timestamp='1441121637' post='12245272']
[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1441121258' post='12245230']
Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!
[/quote]

It was...but a long time ago. Look at Page 7, post 196 of this thread...mark suggests that it's the 120x if I'm not mistaken.
[/quote]
That was before 125 was out. I would suggest 125's as being a CTaper alternative. 120 is a bit of a love hate, for some it will be exactly what you want. For some you'll hate it. 125 I feel fits a wider audience.

I also agree with the statement above that the 105 is a more linear profile and the 105 will fit wider audiences as well. A lighter 125 if you will, 105 is going after PXi and CTaper lite users!

[J13]

[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1441732119' post='12281678']
[quote name='longleft' timestamp='1441121637' post='12245272']
[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1441121258' post='12245230']
Sorry guys, I'm sure this may have been answered before, but what is the closest match to the CTaper S+ profile in the modus? Thank you!!!!
[/quote]

It was...but a long time ago. Look at Page 7, post 196 of this thread...mark suggests that it's the 120x if I'm not mistaken.
[/quote]
That was before 125 was out. I would suggest 125's as being a CTaper alternative. 120 is a bit of a love hate, for some it will be exactly what you want. For some you'll hate it. 125 I feel fits a wider audience.

I also agree with the statement above that the 105 is a more linear profile and the 105 will fit wider audiences as well. A lighter 125 if you will, 105 is going after PXi and CTaper lite users!
[/quote]

The 120TX's have been the best steel shafts I've ever used. I came from Ctaper X and DGX100 and I'll NEVER go back.

[Kratus977]

I was in the market for new irons. I thought that I'd end up with the PING IE's. I demoed them, and really liked them with the [color=#282828]Pro Modus 105 S. I thought this was the best feeling shaft and performing shaft that I've tried in my irons. I was playing the G25's with CFS stiff previously. Even though I was hitting the IE's great, my fitter suggested that I try out the G30's. I did and loved them even more than the IE's. Then we threw in the [/color][color=#282828]Pro Modus 105 S into the G30 irons, and I can't tell you what a combination this was for me.[/color]

[color=#282828]I've now played three rounds with the G30's with [/color][color=#282828]Pro Modus 105 S. In comparing my G30 Pitching Wedge with [/color][color=#282828]Pro Modus 105 S to[/color][color=#282828] the G25 PW with CFS shaft, the G30's launch noticeably higher, have a little more spin, and is about 5 yards longer. I can't tell you how happy I am with the new combination. And just for comparison, I did hit the G30 with CFS shaft vs the G25 with CFS shaft, and there wasn't that much difference. The G30's were a smidge higher launching, but no change in distance.[/color]

[color=#282828]Overall, I think that the [/color][color=#282828]Pro Modus 105 S is the best iron shaft that I've played.[/color]