George Gankas

[Golfbeat]

This kid absolutely hammers the ball with one of the steepest backswing motions i have ever seen, But with rotation and a bit of conscious shallowing move he shallows the club beautifully.

https://www.instagra...-by=ggswingtips

Iam going to correct myself and say he does not whole heartedly teach that rotation will %100 shallow the club as someone above me has posted he does teach a shallowing move with the arms. however

i believe he likes core rotation to be the dominant factor in doing so.

 

Honestly, I can take my 6-year old kid to the range, post the one great swing he took when he nailed perfect timing and make him look like the next Tiger Woods ^™. Some of his guys are surely impressive from the scores that are posted and the junior records, but this video give me the impression that there is an even money chance this kid sprayed the previous 25 balls off the range.

 

That kid is Matthew Wolff, he is a first team AJGA All-American. If you're not familiar with the AJGA it is the PGA Tour of junior golf. I seriously doubt he sprays it all over the range. He was trying to hit driver as high as he could in that video if you read the text accompanying it...so it was probably not exactly his tournament swing.

 

I think he is the #4 Junior in the world.

[QB74]

This kid absolutely hammers the ball with one of the steepest backswing motions i have ever seen, But with rotation and a bit of conscious shallowing move he shallows the club beautifully.

https://www.instagra...-by=ggswingtips

Iam going to correct myself and say he does not whole heartedly teach that rotation will %100 shallow the club as someone above me has posted he does teach a shallowing move with the arms. however

i believe he likes core rotation to be the dominant factor in doing so.

 

Honestly, I can take my 6-year old kid to the range, post the one great swing he took when he nailed perfect timing and make him look like the next Tiger Woods. Some of his guys are surely impressive from the scores that are posted and the junior records, but this video give me the impression that there is an even money chance this kid sprayed the previous 25 balls off the range.

 

That kid is number 13 in the junior golf world rankings and I believe he was even a 5 in the past.

 

They are having fun in that clip, trying to hit it higher than 200ft. Ever tried that?

[Golfah]

No I did not read/understand the text and did not realize it was a contest to exaggerate a motion.

[Kuuuch]

I have found maintaining the tush line has a great deal to do with setup. I can now stay on it both in the backswing and downswing where before I moved slightly off on the way back and slightly more on the way down. Now that I have the setutp down I can actually increase it if I want to.

 

I don't think you can over do the basket drill myself as all it is is a drill to teach you how the left knee goes down and around and the right knee stays externally rotated. You can't do either of those too much. I try like heck to max mine out.

 

Spinning out would just mean you never extended. You extend at p6 with George's pivot.

 

That makes perfect sense. I just had a lesson with Monte and we worked on the tush line and setup so makes sense how they go hand in hand.

 

Was Monte teaching in line with the Zipper Away move and do you think it is different from the GG pivot? What changes did Monte make to your set up?

 

The zipper away was a way to keep the tush line and help me not have so much bump or laterally movement. I found that when I mixed the two moves I was able to keep my tush line. When I did just the zipper away, I could still kick in the right knee so that's why I combined them. As far as setup I needed more tilt and my left hip needed to be bumped out more so I didn't need the big lateral movement.

[Golfbeat]

I have found maintaining the tush line has a great deal to do with setup. I can now stay on it both in the backswing and downswing where before I moved slightly off on the way back and slightly more on the way down. Now that I have the setutp down I can actually increase it if I want to.

 

I don't think you can over do the basket drill myself as all it is is a drill to teach you how the left knee goes down and around and the right knee stays externally rotated. You can't do either of those too much. I try like heck to max mine out.

 

Spinning out would just mean you never extended. You extend at p6 with George's pivot.

 

That makes perfect sense. I just had a lesson with Monte and we worked on the tush line and setup so makes sense how they go hand in hand.

 

Was Monte teaching in line with the Zipper Away move and do you think it is different from the GG pivot? What changes did Monte make to your set up?

 

The zipper away was a way to keep the tush line and help me not have so much bump or laterally movement. I found that when I mixed the two moves I was able to keep my tush line. When I did just the zipper away, I could still kick in the right knee so that's why I combined them. As far as setup I needed more tilt and my left hip needed to be bumped out more so I didn't need the big lateral movement.

 

Thanks! I seem to have the same issue with the Zipper move and the right knee. It's tough!

[Lefty_3Jack]

Could you over do the basket drill GG has a lot of players do? I've been doing about 50-100 of these a day lately and seen some good results. Just wondering if anyone thinks it could be over done. Mixing it with the zipper away drill as well

 

What is the purpose of the basket between the legs drill? Keep the distance between the knees? Why?

[QB74]

Could you over do the basket drill GG has a lot of players do? I've been doing about 50-100 of these a day lately and seen some good results. Just wondering if anyone thinks it could be over done. Mixing it with the zipper away drill as well

 

What is the purpose of the basket between the legs drill? Keep the distance between the knees? Why?

 

Increase distance! Dual ER, late RH IR, speed, better rotation, no slide, no stall.

[Lefty_3Jack]

Could you over do the basket drill GG has a lot of players do? I've been doing about 50-100 of these a day lately and seen some good results. Just wondering if anyone thinks it could be over done. Mixing it with the zipper away drill as well

 

What is the purpose of the basket between the legs drill? Keep the distance between the knees? Why?

 

Increase distance! Dual ER, late RH IR, speed, better rotation, no slide, no stall.

What is internal and external rotation? I'm confused by those terms.

[QB74]

Psy is in ER

https://www.xsens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Gangnam-Style-1024x601.jpg

 

Them two in IR

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Big words for simple everyday stuff.

 

 

[eagle98]

Hi guys. I'm trying to get the feel of this right. If I may. On the downswing the lead knee goes towards the target. Hit the ball with the back shoulder, keep turning. Is this about right. thanks for your help....

[sethdavidsdad]

I have found maintaining the tush line has a great deal to do with setup. I can now stay on it both in the backswing and downswing where before I moved slightly off on the way back and slightly more on the way down. Now that I have the setutp down I can actually increase it if I want to.

 

I don't think you can over do the basket drill myself as all it is is a drill to teach you how the left knee goes down and around and the right knee stays externally rotated. You can't do either of those too much. I try like heck to max mine out.

 

Spinning out would just mean you never extended. You extend at p6 with George's pivot.

Heath, What setup change do you think makes the most difference? I think I stick my butt out to far at setup and then adjust during the swing. Therefore, it makes it hard to maintain the tush line.

[QB74]

here we go again:

 

 

Love the description: This will help you hit better, longer golf shots.

 

Thank you Chris, don't need help with anything else, better and in particular longer shots will do for now.

[Ghost of Snead]

here we go again:

 

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Love the description: This will help you hit better, longer golf shots.

 

Thank you Chris, don't need help with anything else, better and in particular longer shots will do for now.

 

Why was this posted in the Gankas thread ?

[Jacob Mac]

Bc he took the drill from GG's instagram

[Ghost of Snead]

Bc he took the drill from GG's instagram

Ah, I see ... but have not seen that IG.

[Arafel]

Bc he took the drill from GG's instagram

 

Oh! He's being protective of GG's highly original and proprietary content? It makes sense now.

[Ghost of Snead]

Bc he took the drill from GG's instagram

 

Oh! He's being protective of GG's highly original and proprietary content? It makes sense now.

 

Exactly, the ole wall drill has been around for quite some time ...

 

http://www.naplesnews.com/sports/golf/jim-suttie-the-most-important-move-in-golf--get-in-the-slot-ep-401732634-344512472.html

[Hstead]

There are some things that are not real accurate here I will try to clear up. I do not exactly speak for GG by any means, but with that said he gave me what he called "the entire package". He said he wanted me to be able to coach myself, so he gave me all of his check points, what he likes to see, the different variations of each depending on what ball flight you want, and what he prefers.

 

He does not have an exact swing model. He said his model are his juniors. He also does not teach a steep backswing, he prefers an on plane back swing that he describes in one of the videos I posted. He doesn't teach everyone the same exact swing. He teaches according to build and student preferences.

 

He does not like for intentional or conscious shallowing, but he can show you several says to do it. He prefers the club to shallow through his pivot move that he prefers. And you absolutely can shallow the club with the pivot. He does not want you to "shalllow first". If you setup the way he prefers and your lower body moves the way he prefers, the club automatically shallows. There is zero manipulation or intent to shallow anything, it will automatically happen because of the way he teaches you to pivot, which is one reason he is wildly successful because not many guys are teaching what he teaches or understands how to teach it. Sorry TB, but you just don't understand what he is doing or how he is doing it.

[Jonnybagadonuts]

There are some things that are not real accurate here I will try to clear up. I do not exactly speak for GG by any means, but with that said he gave me what he called "the entire package". He said he wanted me to be able to coach myself, so he gave me all of his check points, what he likes to see, the different variations of each depending on what ball flight you want, and what he prefers.

 

He does not have an exact swing model. He said his model are his juniors. He also does not teach a steep backswing, he prefers an on plane back swing that he describes in one of the videos I posted. He doesn't teach everyone the same exact swing. He teaches according to build and student preferences.

 

He does not like for intentional or conscious shallowing, but he can show you several says to do it. He prefers the club to shallow through his pivot move that he prefers. And you absolutely can shallow the club with the pivot. He does not want you to "shalllow first". If you setup the way he prefers and your lower body moves the way he prefers, the club automatically shallows. There is zero manipulation or intent to shallow anything, it will automatically happen because of the way he teaches you to pivot, which is one reason he is wildly successful because not many guys are teaching what he teaches or understands how to teach it. Sorry TB, but you just don't understand what he is doing or how he is doing it.

 

Iam going simply by speculation from following him on Instagram for a while and also just experience practicing different things on the range etc .

 

Glad too see my speculation seems fairly accurate to your post .

 

If anyone else is curious about GGs shallowing technique simply take your setup and bring the club back steep to a little above waist high and stop . Make sure the club is straight up and down and pointing somewhere between your toes and the ball . From there simply rotate your body without any active arm release and watch that club shallow and fall behind you .

 

However that's just the concept and not the entirety of his teaching , as he does not enforce certain backswing styles

[TB07]

There are some things that are not real accurate here I will try to clear up. I do not exactly speak for GG by any means, but with that said he gave me what he called "the entire package". He said he wanted me to be able to coach myself, so he gave me all of his check points, what he likes to see, the different variations of each depending on what ball flight you want, and what he prefers.

 

He does not have an exact swing model. He said his model are his juniors. He also does not teach a steep backswing, he prefers an on plane back swing that he describes in one of the videos I posted. He doesn't teach everyone the same exact swing. He teaches according to build and student preferences.

 

He does not like for intentional or conscious shallowing, but he can show you several says to do it. He prefers the club to shallow through his pivot move that he prefers. And you absolutely can shallow the club with the pivot. He does not want you to "shalllow first". If you setup the way he prefers and your lower body moves the way he prefers, the club automatically shallows. There is zero manipulation or intent to shallow anything, it will automatically happen because of the way he teaches you to pivot, which is one reason he is wildly successful because not many guys are teaching what he teaches or understands how to teach it. Sorry TB, but you just don't understand what he is doing or how he is doing it.

 

Of course I don't understand, I can only go by the videos he puts out for everyone to see.

[rhino305]

 

This one by GG may be for those who overdo the "lead with right elbow". Interesting.

[Hstead]

https://www.instagra.../p/BDPOLxICt2P/

 

This one by GG may be for those who overdo the "lead with right elbow". Interesting.

 

That is one of the check points, right arm should be pretty much perpendicular to the ground, bent, and in a "curl" position, and on the right side at P6.

[ALIF]

I have found maintaining the tush line has a great deal to do with setup. I can now stay on it both in the backswing and downswing where before I moved slightly off on the way back and slightly more on the way down. Now that I have the setutp down I can actually increase it if I want to.

 

I don't think you can over do the basket drill myself as all it is is a drill to teach you how the left knee goes down and around and the right knee stays externally rotated. You can't do either of those too much. I try like heck to max mine out.

 

Spinning out would just mean you never extended. You extend at p6 with George's pivot.

 

Heath, what have you done with your setup? Throw us a bone please!

[Hstead]

More old school, less bend from the hips, rear end tucked under, lower back more upright, spine more rounded, armpits over knees over balls of feet. Much more balanced so I do not tend to stand up in the backswing or downswing now, stay on the tush line and it doesn't budge. Setup changes were big for making the pivot work better.

[QB74]

Bc he took the drill from GG's instagram

 

Oh! He's being protective of GG's highly original and proprietary content? It makes sense now.

 

Trolling the GG thread again, huh? Remember to be a good boy and play nice, gonna spoil it for us again. Love the simplicity though.

[QB74]

There are some things that are not real accurate here I will try to clear up. I do not exactly speak for GG by any means, but with that said he gave me what he called "the entire package". He said he wanted me to be able to coach myself, so he gave me all of his check points, what he likes to see, the different variations of each depending on what ball flight you want, and what he prefers.

 

He does not have an exact swing model. He said his model are his juniors. He also does not teach a steep backswing, he prefers an on plane back swing that he describes in one of the videos I posted. He doesn't teach everyone the same exact swing. He teaches according to build and student preferences.

 

He does not like for intentional or conscious shallowing, but he can show you several says to do it. He prefers the club to shallow through his pivot move that he prefers. And you absolutely can shallow the club with the pivot. He does not want you to "shalllow first". If you setup the way he prefers and your lower body moves the way he prefers, the club automatically shallows. There is zero manipulation or intent to shallow anything, it will automatically happen because of the way he teaches you to pivot, which is one reason he is wildly successful because not many guys are teaching what he teaches or understands how to teach it. Sorry TB, but you just don't understand what he is doing or how he is doing it.

 

Of course I don't understand, I can only go by the videos he puts out for everyone to see.

 

There was a very good one with Johnny demonstrating it but I cannot find it anymore (he's deleting stuff???). Key was hands stay up and wide, getting narrow is a death move, rotation will shallow club.

 

[Golfbeat]

This one may illustrate as well. The one with Johnny is better and is now on the Member site. It is basically the wall drill.

 

[Golfbeat]

Nice one on the right elbow coming down.

 

[QB74]

Nice one on the right elbow coming down.

 

 

Yeah, that ties in also really well with the explanation Mike Emery has in his book about how the right elbow releases.

[TB07]

There are some things that are not real accurate here I will try to clear up. I do not exactly speak for GG by any means, but with that said he gave me what he called "the entire package". He said he wanted me to be able to coach myself, so he gave me all of his check points, what he likes to see, the different variations of each depending on what ball flight you want, and what he prefers.

 

He does not have an exact swing model. He said his model are his juniors. He also does not teach a steep backswing, he prefers an on plane back swing that he describes in one of the videos I posted. He doesn't teach everyone the same exact swing. He teaches according to build and student preferences.

 

He does not like for intentional or conscious shallowing, but he can show you several says to do it. He prefers the club to shallow through his pivot move that he prefers. And you absolutely can shallow the club with the pivot. He does not want you to "shalllow first". If you setup the way he prefers and your lower body moves the way he prefers, the club automatically shallows. There is zero manipulation or intent to shallow anything, it will automatically happen because of the way he teaches you to pivot, which is one reason he is wildly successful because not many guys are teaching what he teaches or understands how to teach it. Sorry TB, but you just don't understand what he is doing or how he is doing it.

 

Of course I don't understand, I can only go by the videos he puts out for everyone to see.

 

There was a very good one with Johnny demonstrating it but I cannot find it anymore (he's deleting stuff???). Key was hands stay up and wide, getting narrow is a death move, rotation will shallow club.

 

Can you link one where rotation shallows?