MEMBER REVIEWS: Fujikura Ventus Red & Black Testing! See What Members Are Saying!

[StillCantPutt]

I wasn’t part of the giveaway but I did pickup a Ventus Black 6X to try out and compare it to my Aldila Rogue White 60TX. I hit about 20 balls yesterday at our range and the Ventus easily outperformed the Rogue White anecdotally speaking. Farther, more penetrating, smoother, etc. It’s been raining for about 24 hours here so I won’t be able to get Trackman numbers outside today but my neighbor has a Full Swing simulator in his house so I’ll go over there to compare the 2 with regards to ballspeed and spin. Side note: not sure how much I believe the full swing numbers, but head to head, it should provide a guide as to which is the better shaft for me with regards to spin, ballspeed and dispersion. I will just say, the feel of the Ventus is unmatched IMO. Excited to try it on the course if it ever stops raining.

[jblough99]

Ok guys got some updated numbers and also added the Accra TZP Proto 265 M5 (prototype for the TZ6 65 M5). To recap specs on all shafts, Ventus Black 6X untipped plays at 45.5”, Atmos Black 6X tipped 1.5” plays at 45.5”, Accra TZP tipped .5” plays at 45.5”. Ping G410 Plus 9* with 14 gram weight set neutral, all played at the big minus loft setting. The charts and graphs below are color coded as followed: Ventus is Green, Atmos is Blue, Accra is Orange.

 

**Averages**

 

**Ventus**

 

**Accra**

 

**Atoms**

 

 

 

Feel: All feel great but different. The Ventus has a very “solid” feel at impact, think forged iron, very stable, very little twisting, but very powerful. The Atmos feels similar to the Ventus but feels like there is more “kick” at impact, I guess some would call it lively, can feel more twist on off center strikes. The Accra has a “hollow” feel to it, tough for me to explain, just not as solid as either of the Fuji’s, but still very stable.

 

Performance: Again all performed well. All 3 spun and launched fairly close to each other, probably more me/strike than the shafts. What I noticed with the Ventus was how consistent the ball flight was, compare all 3 graphs and the Ventus stands out, almost all shots have the same launch and trajectory. The other 2 vary quite a bit on trajectory. I would say dispersion was pretty close between them all, Ventus may have been a bit tighter front to back, but not by much. I noticed more of a draw bias with the Atmos, Ventus was neutral, and the Accra had a bit of a fade bias. I’m sure all of these could be adjusted by moving the weight to either draw or fade.

 

Im very pleased with the Ventus so far. Hopefully I can get out in the real world and see how it performs on course. Will update when I get some on course time with it.

[taylorx300]

What is the LM you are using?

[jblough99]

> @taylorx300 said:

> What is the LM you are using?

 

Skytrak

[MattE12]

Good luck! Very curious to see how these are on the course.

[drvrwdge]

Still no launch monitor results but on the course results were fantastic. I pretty much shit the bed this weekend in the mid-am but it wasn’t the drivers fault. Pretty much a, can’t get out of my own way type of thing. I don’t think the Ventus is appreciably longer than the TS 6.2 but it does feel more “solid” and it’s definitely more forgiving directionally. To me there was noticeably less deflection or twisting of the head on off center strikes, especially off of the toe. When I was able to let go and swing freely I had really really good results. It’s a course I’ve never played so I’m not sure about normal spots on the course but I can tell you 2nd day on #2 it’s. 576 ya par 5 and I hit driver/7i and 12 is 619 and I had 235 in the 1st day. Both dogleg rights and I hit a little cut so the corners were cut but still very long drives.

 

Will try and get some actual numbers this week.

[marrigo]

Got another round in today with the Black with very similar results to what I wrote previously. This shaft obviously fits my swing well and I've really seen an improvement in accuracy, especially on mishits. Clubhead doesn't seem to twist as much when hit out on the toe or high on the face. Carry distance on most shots today seemed about the same as I used to getting with the Matrix, but I'm getting more role with the Ventus. I did get a couple of drives that seemed to both carry and role further than I'm used to. These seemed to be hit high-center on the face, so I'm wondering if the more stable shaft is not deflecting as much on these high hits so it launches about the same but with lower spin that comes with hitting it above the CG? Not sure, but whatever the reason, I like it. After some thought, I think the best way to describe the feel is responsive but solid. I've never hit a shaft that had both of those.

[MH2]

Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread but r any of u testing the black 6s?

[marrigo]

Yes. The Black 6 s.

[MH2]

> @marrigo said:

> Yes. The Black 6 s.

Have u hit the Ventus blue? If so how would u compare the feel between the 2? Is the black a lot firmer? Thanks

 

[marrigo]

Unfortunately I have not hit the blue. Sorry.

[cj4501]

Anyone put the black up against a adgp?

[thesaxemachine]

Will be very interested if anyone is comparing the Black to EvenFlow White.

[drvrwdge]

Finally got on a FlightScope. Full disclosure I absolutely hate hitting in doors, can’t ever seem to get comfortable but the numbers are pretty solid and I feel are a good reflection of on course results. Although I don’t feel like I made any good swings or hit a single ball solid ha. Test was done with real balls, ProV1x. Numbers below plus a little swing porn from range session today. You can see the numbers are so similar theres almost literally no difference but I can tell you I feel like the Ventus feels more solid and performs better on the course for me. The 6.2TS is tipped an inch Ventus has no tipping.

 

[drvrwdge]

 

[drvrwdge]

Played again today and it really is just stupid how good this thing is. It just flat out performs. Played today in 20mph sustained with 30 mph gusts and honestly wasn’t affected very much by the wind either directionally or distance wise. Granted I hit it about as good as I have all year but the flight is so flat and penetrating and the shaft is incredibly stable with outstanding feel. Not sure you could really ask for anything else in a shaft. Shot 69 with 6 birdies at 6600 yards with a rating of 71.

[Morry]

Testing Red 65-s and I am of 2 minds - tip stability seems to really help dispersion of drives and holds off big left (or right)

but.....my playing partners comment that I seem to be 'fighting it'

tough to feel it kick like the rest of my bag and maybe that makes me feel like I need to go after it a bit too much

 

any thoughts?

[ddetts]

> @Morry said:

> Testing Red 65-s and I am of 2 minds - tip stability seems to really help dispersion of drives and holds off big left (or right)

> but.....my playing partners comment that I seem to be 'fighting it'

> tough to feel it kick like the rest of my bag and maybe that makes me feel like I need to go after it a bit too much

>

> any thoughts?

 

I'm testing the red 6x, and I don't know that I would say I feel like I am fighting it but agree that it doesn't have the same feel of load/kick that I feel in my Even Flow Blue 6.5. I would also agree that it's harder to make it go left.

[Morry]

Given that you are making almost the exact same transition of shafts, how would you describe the experience and are you making the switch?

appreciated ddetts

 

> @ddetts said:

> > @Morry said:

> > Testing Red 65-s and I am of 2 minds - tip stability seems to really help dispersion of drives and holds off big left (or right)

> > but.....my playing partners comment that I seem to be 'fighting it'

> > tough to feel it kick like the rest of my bag and maybe that makes me feel like I need to go after it a bit too much

> >

> > any thoughts?

>

> I'm testing the red 6x, and I don't know that I would say I feel like I am fighting it but agree that it doesn't have the same feel of load/kick that I feel in my Even Flow Blue 6.5. I would also agree that it's harder to make it go left.

 

 

[ddetts]

> @Morry said:

> Given that you are making almost the exact same transition of shafts, how would you describe the experience and are you making the switch?

> appreciated ddetts

>

> > @ddetts said:

> > > @Morry said:

> > > Testing Red 65-s and I am of 2 minds - tip stability seems to really help dispersion of drives and holds off big left (or right)

> > > but.....my playing partners comment that I seem to be 'fighting it'

> > > tough to feel it kick like the rest of my bag and maybe that makes me feel like I need to go after it a bit too much

> > >

> > > any thoughts?

> >

> > I'm testing the red 6x, and I don't know that I would say I feel like I am fighting it but agree that it doesn't have the same feel of load/kick that I feel in my Even Flow Blue 6.5. I would also agree that it's harder to make it go left.

>

>

 

I have had a couple of things working against me, so I haven't been able to get a thorough comparison yet. First, I tweaked my trail leg knee (oddly enough, just stretching) like 6 weeks ago and that was making it difficult to load in the backswing and shift pressure in transition. My clubhead speed was quite low and swing was suffering as a result. I tried to play on a sim like two weeks ago adn was barely getting driver over 100mph clubhead speed. I feel like it's finally starting to come back, as I managed to top out at 112mph clubhead speed last night hitting in my garage.

 

Second, while I did play the Ventus in my last two 18 hole rounds, the problem is that it was very windy both days and I'm not a great wind player (mostly swing issues). So the wind combined with the aforementioned knee/swing issue made it pretty hard to judge distance, how much it would've curved without the strong winds, etc.

 

Specs:

 

 

Here's my take so far. As you can see above, from the basic specs the shafts aren't really that different. I couldn't find the Tip/Butt flexes or Bend Point for EF Blue. That said, feel is a little different from Even Flow Blue to Ventus Red for me, but not significant enough that it was hard to switch. I still get the feel of the shafting loading, it's just not as pronounced as EF Blue. It's actually probably on the kick/release where I notice the difference more. EF Blue you can feel the kick but Ventus Red feels more stable, so don't know if that's owing to more stability or what. I would agree with what others have said it's harder to make this shaft go left and initially I was hanging some shots out to the right. After that, it was really easy to convince myself to just go at it hard knowing I would really have to do something to make it go left.

 

I'm still hoping to get on a true launch monitor to compare launch/spin/dispersion/etc However, I may have to settle for comparing on a Full Swing golf simulator with e6 with whatever ball flight metrics that has.

[cj4501]

For those that play black, how did it launch compared to a atmos black TS. contemplating the blue but might launch/spin too much. Also anyone try both stiff and X and notice much difference? On the fence with going 7s tipped or no tip X. Ss 103-110ish right now

[drvrwdge]

My SS is ~120, maybe a tad higher and I am playing the Black 6x with no tipping. Coming from the TS 6.2x tipped 1". I think the Ventus Black 6x is every bit as stable untipped as the TS 6.2x tipped 1". I think the 6.2 and Atmos Black TS are pretty similar in terms of tip stiffness and stability..

[jblough99]

> @cj4501 said:

> For those that play black, how did it launch compared to a atmos black TS. contemplating the blue but might launch/spin too much. Also anyone try both stiff and X and notice much difference? On the fence with going 7s tipped or no tip X. Ss 103-110ish right now

 

Scroll to the top of this page for your answer. My Atmos 6x is tipped 1.5” and my Ventus 6x is untipped. For me the ventus is giving me far more consistent ball flight. The Atmos I still have to worry about it turning it over as most shots plotted above are a draw, with Ventus the hook has basically been eliminated unless I make a horrible swing.

 

Finally got out to the range last night to see how this thing performs in the real world. Unreal how good it was working for me. Very straight and stable ball flight. Even miss hits still found there way to the intended target. Shots I hit that I immediately thought were horrible, I looked up and saw the ball headed straight down range.

[cj4501]

> @jblough99 said:

> > @cj4501 said:

> > For those that play black, how did it launch compared to a atmos black TS. contemplating the blue but might launch/spin too much. Also anyone try both stiff and X and notice much difference? On the fence with going 7s tipped or no tip X. Ss 103-110ish right now

>

> Scroll to the top of this page for your answer. My Atmos 6x is tipped 1.5” and my Ventus 6x is untipped. For me the ventus is giving me far more consistent ball flight. The Atmos I still have to worry about it turning it over as most shots plotted above are a draw, with Ventus the hook has basically been eliminated unless I make a horrible swing.

>

> Finally got out to the range last night to see how this thing performs in the real world. Unreal how good it was working for me. Very straight and stable ball flight. Even miss hits still found there way to the intended target. Shots I hit that I immediately thought were horrible, I looked up and saw the ball headed straight down range.

 

Yup totally looked past your post. Thanks for info! Saw launch was up a bit from TS. Black 7x is right in my wheelhouse I think!

[My2Dogs]

I was lucky enough to get my hands on a tour issued Cally Flash 5 wood but it had a Ventus Blue 8X in it and why I wanted it. The head has some hot melt from the guys on the van and I cannot believe how solid and long this combo is. Don’t know if it’s the shaft, head with the hot melt or what but it’s long, straight and if I have to turn it over or fade it, no problem. In my FW woods I’ve always stuck with my old faithful Matrix 8M2 but loving the Ventus so far. Might try and get a Ventus for my 3 wood.

 

In my drivers I’ve gotten such good numbers from Mitsubishi Pro White in the TX and sometimes Stiff (depending on my back that day). However I loved the Ventus in the 5 wood so much I bought 2 Ventus Blues. One for my Ping G410lst and one for my Tour Issued M5. Both 6X with no tipping on either. Going to head out Friday and leave work after lunch to play. I’ll try and post results as I’m playing a course I’m very familiar for my normal distance off driver.

[taylorx300]

Got my Red Ventus out on the course today on a beautiful fall day. This shaft is flat out awesome. Drove it great and the two fairways I missed were just off the edge. Thanks again @"Fujikura Golf"

One of the guys in the group was playing a Kiyoshi Black and hit my driver and said he was going to replace it ASAP.

[My2Dogs]

So I got both my Ventus blue 6X shafts for my M5 and 410LST on Thursday and got to go out and play Friday afternoon.

 

I’ve been using the Mitsubishi Tensei Pro Whites as they have been the best of all the shafts I have tried and I have tried and purchased a ton (Pro Orange V2, AD VR, Accra RPG and TZ5 and TZ6 just this year. The Pro White helped me lower my flight a lot and get some roll finally. I’ve always hit it decently far but never get any roll. Sometimes I’ve even plugged in the FW after teeing off. The Pro White put me in places with roll that I haven’t seen in 10 years before surgeries and cancer hit. The Ventus is just a long but a much higher ball flight and of course less roll but same distance. Also dispersion was just as good as the pro white. I love the Ventus Blue. Would love to try the Black to see if it’s just as good but with more roll and lower ball flight.

 

Right now my thought is to use the Ventus Blue in the fall and spring when it’s softer and not as much roll. Then use the Pro White in the summer when the ground is harder and also on days when it’s windy.

 

The Ventus seemed very smooth in the swing, much like the AD VR. I really liked the feel of the AD VR, it just spun a little too much for me but also another great shaft.

[Morry]

What flex was it?

Did you find it held off left?

Why did it feel so awesome?

 

thanks - I'm on the edge

appreciated

 

> @taylorx300 said:

> Got my Red Ventus out on the course today on a beautiful fall day. This shaft is flat out awesome. Drove it great and the two fairways I missed were just off the edge. Thanks again @"Fujikura Golf"

> One of the guys in the group was playing a Kiyoshi Black and hit my driver and said he was going to replace it ASAP.

 

 

[Lenny2]

Who got the blue? Can we see the numbers and what you think about it?

[jblough99]

> @Lenny2 said:

> Who got the blue? Can we see the numbers and what you think about it?

 

Blue wasnt an option, just the new red and black