First putting lesson...ever

[Teebs]

I'd got myself in a real mess trying to get lined up and trying to be 'open'. The result wasn't pretty and it was effectively putting side spin on the ball with a very inconsistent strike.

 

1hr with the Pro, getting back to basics and we started to see a few putts rolling end over end. Still work to do but the visio mat was great and I felt alot more comfortable by the end.

 

Comments welcome

 

 

 

[Santiago Golf]

whats your handicap?

 

How much time of the lesson was spent on learning how to control and judge distance control?

[Teebs]

3 hours ago, Santiago Golf said:

whats your handicap?

 

How much time of the lesson was spent on learning how to control and judge distance control?

 

4.

[larrybud]

IMO you're going to struggle until you fix the grip. Club should not be in your fingers and should run between the two pads on your right hand. That will keep it in alignment with the right forearm. 

 

The way you're manipulating your right wrist seems brutal to me, and this will fix a lot of that.

EDIT: Here's a pic from Stan Utley's book which demonstrates this:

Edited July 13, 2023 by larrybud

[CactusGolf]

I've never had a putting lesson, but I'm sure it is time for one. 

 

Did the lesson also discuss the type of putter and length you should be using?

[nitram]

3 hours ago, larrybud said:

IMO you're going to struggle until you fix the grip. Club should not be in your fingers and should run between the two pads on your right hand. That will keep it in alignment with the right forearm. 

 

The way you're manipulating your right wrist seems brutal to me, and this will fix a lot of that.

EDIT: Here's a pic from Stan Utley's book which demonstrates this:

I agree with you and Stan 100%. But unless he has really huge hands (long fingers), it's gonna be really tough to copy that grip with the Super Stroke he's currently using.

[wagolfer7]

Great 1st lesson really.  Setup looks a lot better.  And absolutely the place you should start.  

 

Or you could go the WRX way and try to take on 13 different things at the same time.  

 

Looks like the towel and alignment sticks are there to help get better balance.  Really good stuff.  

 

Hope you see better results in the near future.  Keep grinding.  

[Teebs]

Thanks all

 

@larrybud appreciate that, will work on it over the weekend

[IsThatGood17]

Looks really good! Great improvement!

[Kuuuch]

On 7/13/2023 at 6:59 AM, larrybud said:

IMO you're going to struggle until you fix the grip. Club should not be in your fingers and should run between the two pads on your right hand. That will keep it in alignment with the right forearm. 

 

The way you're manipulating your right wrist seems brutal to me, and this will fix a lot of that.

EDIT: Here's a pic from Stan Utley's book which demonstrates this:

Don’t you think a lot of the right wrist downcock he has is a result of the interlock grip he has? At least it looks like interlock to me. Wondering if reverse overlap would help out with alignment of forearms as well. 

 

[RoyalTroon]

On 7/12/2023 at 5:09 PM, Teebs said:

Comments welcome

 

Maybe need one or two more putting aids and then you can be REALLY sure of yourself. 

[larrybud]

1 hour ago, Kuuuch said:

Don’t you think a lot of the right wrist downcock he has is a result of the interlock grip he has? At least it looks like interlock to me. Wondering if reverse overlap would help out with alignment of forearms as well. 

Overlap or interlock, if the grip is in the fingers (which it almost certainly is), that downcock will have to be necessary otherwise the toe of the putter will be sticking way up in the air.

 

[larrybud]

23 hours ago, nitram said:

I agree with you and Stan 100%. But unless he has really huge hands (long fingers), it's gonna be really tough to copy that grip with the Super Stroke he's currently using.

I don't see why, It's just a matter of positing the grip in his palm vs fingers. I've messed around with Super Strokes and never had a problem, and don't have giant hands.

[kowalgolf]

I'm surprised nobody asked if your hips move during the stroke. I bet they do.

[nosil]

On 7/13/2023 at 6:59 AM, larrybud said:

IMO you're going to struggle until you fix the grip. Club should not be in your fingers and should run between the two pads on your right hand. That will keep it in alignment with the right forearm. 

 

The way you're manipulating your right wrist seems brutal to me, and this will fix a lot of that.

EDIT: Here's a pic from Stan Utley's book which demonstrates this:

 

that is a method that works for some golfers. I am not saying that the OP shouldn’t change his grip but that it is more of a choice as putting setup is about choices and matchups.    Here is a reference to a putting instructor that discusses that it isn’t a must do this type of thing.  

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csy-GRvpDgk/?img_index=1

 

[larrybud]

The difference is that the OP is clearly manipulating his right wrist in order to get the putter to lie flat. That's mainly due to how he's gripping the putter. IMO it would be very difficult to retain that angle in his wrist throughout the stroke. If he doesn't retain it, the putter head is going to do all sorts of crazy things. To me, his setup looks stiff and contrived, and not natural or easy.

In the 4 photos on the IG page, none of those guys have their wrists cocked in an odd position like this. Probably a combination of their height, arm length, putter length, lie angle and grip. I'm not so concerned with whether it's directly in line with the right forearm (although this grip does promote that result) as I am the manipulated position of his hands. My right wrist just hurts looking at that pic!

[SNIPERBBB]

whats the purpose of the towel there other than to protect the green from standing in one spot for too long?

[nosil]

36 minutes ago, SNIPERBBB said:

whats the purpose of the towel there other than to protect the green from standing in one spot for too long?

That is the purpose of the towel.   I have seen some that have measurements to help with consistent foot width and posture.  

[Elkhair]

On 7/13/2023 at 6:59 AM, larrybud said:

IMO you're going to struggle until you fix the grip. Club should not be in your fingers and should run between the two pads on your right hand. That will keep it in alignment with the right forearm. 

 

The way you're manipulating your right wrist seems brutal to me, and this will fix a lot of that.

EDIT: Here's a pic from Stan Utley's book which demonstrates this:

And Brad Faxon says to put it in the fingers. Do whatever you want. Be Athletic. 

[tatertot]

So ... Many ... Experts ...

 

If you're getting lessons, don't come here for advice. Stick to your pro, they should have a plan. 

[Kuuuch]

3 hours ago, Elkhair said:

And Brad Faxon says to put it in the fingers. Do whatever you want. Be Athletic. 

Yeah I’m not a fan of lifeline grip. Lifeline always felt horrible to me. Fingers worked pretty well for tiger but hey, that’s the beauty of putting. Lots of ways to get it done.

[SNIPERBBB]

4 minutes ago, Kuuuch said:

Yeah I’m not a fan of lifeline grip. Lifeline always felt horrible to me. Fingers worked pretty well for tiger but hey, that’s the beauty of putting. Lots of ways to get it done.

Tiger loves to use his hands with every club in his bag. im literally the opposite. As you said  everyone is different. 

[Teebs]

Thanks for all the comments - I have been working on the grip..

 

First round today after the lesson and it was a big success. Felt pretty comfortable and more importantly, holed some nice putts, didn't miss anything inside 7ft and no 3 putts. The ball is rolling much better now. 

 

😀

[larrybud]

On 7/14/2023 at 12:33 PM, tatertot said:

So ... Many ... Experts ...

 

If you're getting lessons, don't come here for advice. Stick to your pro, they should have a plan. 

Isn't the whole purpose of this forum is to ask and give advice? lol

[tatertot]

40 minutes ago, larrybud said:

Isn't the whole purpose of this forum is to ask and give advice? lol

I get asking for advice ... Like you said, that's why GolfWRX is here ... But why would you dedicate time and resources to a pro to take you down a journey, only to ask a bunch of people that have no vested interest for advice that could detour down a million different rabbit holes?

[Teebs]

2nd round in really windy conditions but putted really well, again. Even for the putts that I missed from >10ft, they were still being struck well and hit on the line I'd chosen.