T100 / 150 Combo?

[alanfinlay]

Has anyone ordered or put into play a combo of T150/100. 
If so, where did you split and does it work without tweaking the lofts?

[Honman]

Mine was a touch different, and am still waiting for them to arrive. But I went T100 6-pw. T200 5, U505 4. 

 

[gaspasr]

1 hour ago, Honman said:

Mine was a touch different, and am still waiting for them to arrive. But I went T100 6-pw. T200 5, U505 4. 

 

Thinking of doing something similar-how did you blend the lofts?  Weaken the T200?  

[Sean124]

I play T200 4, T150 5, T100 6-GW. 
 

Lofts are 21-25-29-33-37-41-45.5-50

[BirdieBob]

6 hours ago, alanfinlay said:

Has anyone ordered or put into play a combo of T150/100. 
If so, where did you split and does it work without tweaking the lofts?

 

Maybe the guy in the BST that has a set 4sale!.......split at the 4 & 5 in the 150 > 100

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by BirdieBob

[MelloYello]

6 hours ago, alanfinlay said:

Has anyone ordered or put into play a combo of T150/100. 
If so, where did you split and does it work without tweaking the lofts?

 

Are you confident you really want to do a combo set? What exactly is the point? Usually combo sets are there to help generate more launch/height in the longer irons. The T150 doesn't generate more height. It generates more distance. 

 

The T100 and the T150 are basically identical clubs in terms of look, stability and peak height. There's little reason for a combo set at all unless you have problems generating sufficient distance with your mid- and long-irons in the T100 which seems like it would be something you'd know more about than others, right? 

 

The only difference from a T100 is you'll get slightly more distance out of the T150, but to me, that would create problems. It's combining a traditional-looking player's iron with a traditional-looking player's distance iron. That's not an ideal match in a combo set IMO. 

 

Contrary to all the talk, there's very little reason to actual combo the T100 and the T150. If you want a serious jump in forgiveness or height, you probably need to be looking at the T200.

 

On that note, do not under-estimate the T200 which is an awesome looking club that can easily be inserted in the bag of the better player. 

 

I think you'd be better served picking the T100 or the T150 and then using the T200 as a higher-launching club in the longer end of the bag. 

 

 

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Edited September 11, 2023 by MelloYello

[Sean124]

14 minutes ago, MelloYello said:

 

Are you confident you really want to do a combo set? What exactly is the point? Usually combo sets are there to help generate more launch/height in the longer irons. The T150 doesn't generate more height. It generates more distance. 

 

The T100 and the T150 are basically identical clubs in terms of look, stability and peak height. There's little reason for a combo set at all unless you have problems generating sufficient distance with your mid- and long-irons in the T100 which seems like it would be something you'd know more about than others, right? 

 

The only difference from a T100 is you'll get slightly more distance out of the T150, but to me, that would create problems. It's combining a traditional-looking player's iron with a traditional-looking player's distance iron. That's not an ideal match in a combo set IMO. 

 

Contrary to all the talk, there's very little reason to actual combo the T100 and the T150. If you want a serious jump in forgiveness or height, you probably need to be looking at the T200.

 

On that note, do not under-estimate the T200 which is an awesome looking club that can easily be inserted in the bag of the better player. 

 

I think you'd be better served picking the T100 or the T150 and then using the T200 as a higher-launching club in the longer end of the bag. 

 

 

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I mostly agree with this. The only reason I have the T150 5 iron is it falls right into the lofts I like to play. I don’t think it’s noticeably easier to hit than my T100 5 iron. 

[Honman]

2 hours ago, gaspasr said:

Thinking of doing something similar-how did you blend the lofts?  Weaken the T200?  

No. Strengthened the T100. Strike was much better with the narrower sole of t100 than the T150. But launch and spin were a touch high. Worst case scenario is I weaken the lofts back to standard and then look at the 5 iron loft in future.

[Jayjay_theweim_guy]

2 hours ago, MelloYello said:

The T150 doesn't generate more height. It generates more distance. 

Not at all what the Titleist rep told me---He stated that the T150 launched higher than the T100.   

 

However, this was at the end of my hybrid fitting, and the end of his fitting sessions.   He easily could have told me that to get me out of his face.  Nice enough guy, and I'm very much looking forward to this hybrid, but it is another data point on the differences in these new Titleist irons.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Jayjay_theweim_guy

[MelloYello]

22 minutes ago, Jayjay_theweim_guy said:

Not at all what the Titleist rep told me---He stated that the T150 launched higher than the T100.   

 

However, this was at the end of my hybrid fitting, and the end of his fitting sessions.   He easily could have told me that to get me out of his face.  Nice enough guy, and I'm very much looking forward to this hybrid, but it is another data point on the differences in these new Titleist irons.

 

This is why it's important to get on Trackman and look at real data which will vary slightly among different players. 

 

For me, they both peaked around the same height which was 90-ft on a stock, medium draw and 105-ft on a high, straight ball. 

 

What I also noticed (and didn't like) about the T150 was that knock-downs and partial shots (which lofted clubs do very well) tended to be too hot and too low. In short, the goal of a 44^o Pw is not to hit good knock-downs, but rather to optimize full-swing carry on a Launch Monitor and make it look more powerful (which it absolutely is). But most good players prefer predictability and workability over raw distance. 

[Stavo]

So agreed mostly with @MelloYello on this thread.

 

I was fitted a week ago and I hit the T100 and T150 both well. The fitter recommended a combo set of T100 PW-8 and T150 7-5. I went against his advice and just got a whole set of T150 for a few reasons.

 

1. the T150 launched higher, even though it was 2 degrees stronger, it reached about 7-10 yards higher peak height (which I needed to hit optimal launch window of about 95 ft)

2. the ball speeds I got from both were drastically different. On a 7 iron, T100 it was 119, on T150, it was 125. Probably due to stronger lofts, but if I combo'd at the 8/7 iron, I would have had huge gap right in the middle of my bag. Essentially, I'd hit the T100 8 iron 155-160, and the T150 7 iron 180-190. Seemed a bit wack.

 

Ultimately, I just got the T150 1 degree weak, which should help bring the spin closer to the T100 (6500 vs 6200), and bring down the length of the 7 iron so I don't have gapping issues lower in the bag. I was also just way more comfortable with the T150 since it was slightly bigger and less intimidating than the T100's. The face is definitely hot and agreed with the feedback on little knockdowns or partials (ie, keeping it low under trees etc). 

[burns9304]

I've got a combo coming with T100 5-PW and the T150 4 iron.  For lofts I've done 4 degree increments all the way through from 46 for the PW to 22 for the 4 iron.  The T150 is also coming with a 105 gram graphite shaft 1/2" longer than standard to better match my gapping between the 5 iron and my UW.  5 iron is 205 carry, UW 235 carry with the T150 coming in at 220.  The T100 5 iron bent strong works better for me than the T150 bent weak since my strike works better in lower bounce and thinner sole irons.

[nauticaltownship]

Got a combo set of t100 p-6 and t150 5 and 4. The t150's are bent a degree week. For me, the t150's do launch higher than the t100's especially on those long irons. They felt really springy off the face and I definitely didn't want that feel in the low irons, but the t150's made a perfect long iron for me. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by nauticaltownship

[Fwitz11]

Great reads here. Been struggling with similar issues. Clarification that it’s not crazy to want to go with t100 7-pw and t200 5-6? Haven’t seen many with that kind of combo.

[Stavo]

@Fwitz11 No not crazy. I've actually seen a lot from Titelist saying that the 100 and 200 are also supposed to be combo'd together. The only concern I'd have is gapping. For example, I hit the 150 7 iron 185, and then I hit the T200 5 iron 233... that leave a 6 iron to cover 190-225????

[Jmccas]

39 minutes ago, Fwitz11 said:

Great reads here. Been struggling with similar issues. Clarification that it’s not crazy to want to go with t100 7-pw and t200 5-6? Haven’t seen many with that kind of combo.

I’ve got T100 5-GW. Might order a T200 5 iron as I could use a little more pop. 

[Haber]

I went T100 8-P 1 degree strong, T150 5-7 1 degree weak and T200 4 iron 1 weak as well. Gaps seem to be perfect and I’m loving the extra help in the longer irons coming from p7mc 4-p

[goudok]

T100 7-PW 

T150 5-6 1 degree weak.

 

[bombs]

150/200 combo is where its at.

Split at the 4.

[Warrick]

T150 6/7, T100S 8/G

[Stavo]

11 hours ago, goudok said:

T100 7-PW 

T150 5-6 1 degree weak.

 

 

Are these already in your bag @goudok? Can you post your gapping yardages here? Similar to what my fitter recommended but I went against it, so curious what your ball speeds and yardages look like. I feel like you'd have at least a 20 yard gap between 7 and 6

[goudok]

3 hours ago, Stavo said:

 

Are these already in your bag @goudok? Can you post your gapping yardages here? Similar to what my fitter recommended but I went against it, so curious what your ball speeds and yardages look like. I feel like you'd have at least a 20 yard gap between 7 and 6

They aren’t in the bag yet, recently ordered, but I did try 7 and 5 irons in exact specs I will be using. 
Stock 7 iron 163

stock 5 188

was on gcquad using my real ball so based on that my 6 will be 177ish I can weaken it another half a degree and have 4.5 degrees between 7 and 5 per club. 
I did not see the jumps that some are posting. 

[Stavo]

15 minutes ago, goudok said:

They aren’t in the bag yet, recently ordered, but I did try 7 and 5 irons in exact specs I will be using. 
Stock 7 iron 163

stock 5 188

was on gcquad using my real ball so based on that my 6 will be 177ish I can weaken it another half a degree and have 4.5 degrees between 7 and 5 per club. 
I did not see the jumps that some are posting. 

that gapping looks good then!!

[goudok]

4 hours ago, Stavo said:

that gapping looks good then!!

I was going to get with 6-pw T100 but figured  a little more help with the 6 won’t hurt. I tend to not swing full out on 7 and up. I can squeeze 5-10 yards more out of my irons, but tend not to other than 5 and 6 that’s what my train of thought was if I ever wanna step on a 6 and hit it 185ish I’d rather do it with a little more help. 

[asKaasa]

For what its worth, I comboed T200/150/100 after a fitting.

 

U505 4 22

T200 5 25

T200 6 28

T150 7 32

T150 8 36

T150 9 40.5

T100 PW 45

 

Coming from blade / cb combo, this new setup gives me more height and confidence. So far, also lower scores.

 

The only change I am looking to do now is to change the 4 iron for a 22 T200 UT build, and get a new U505 2 iron.

[MelloYello]

5 hours ago, asKaasa said:

For what its worth, I comboed T200/150/100 after a fitting.

 

U505 4 22

T200 5 25

T200 6 28

T150 7 32

T150 8 36

T150 9 40.5

T100 PW 45

 

Coming from blade / cb combo, this new setup gives me more height and confidence. So far, also lower scores.

 

The only change I am looking to do now is to change the 4 iron for a 22 T200 UT build, and get a new U505 2 iron.

 

FWIW, I like this type of setup. 

 

As others have said, a golfer will probably find it much easier to pair the T150 and the T200 since they are both "distance" irons. 

 

I can totally see sneaking in the T100 Pw (as @asKaasa has). I have a similar set wherein Srixon puts a 41^o - 46^o gap between the Z-forged 9i and Pw. Having a Pw that's slightly weak is very manageable and resolves the need to re-work your wedges when you've got a 44^o Pw. 

 

 

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Edited September 13, 2023 by MelloYello

[ReviellGolf]

On 9/11/2023 at 2:37 AM, alanfinlay said:

Has anyone ordered or put into play a combo of T150/100. 
If so, where did you split and does it work without tweaking the lofts?

I went with T150 6-pw and T200 4-5 with standard lofts so far. I was originally going to go with T200 4-6 but I noticed the loft gap between splitting at 6-7 is 5* whereas if you split at 5-6 then the gap is 4*. This is good on paper but I guess we'll see what happens when I do a gapping session. On paper, the only loft change i'm thinking about making is bending the pw a degree weaker to 45* cause 44* is pretty strong for me in a pw.

[Jayjay_theweim_guy]

1 hour ago, MelloYello said:

I have a similar set wherein Srixon puts a 41^o - 46^o gap between the Z-forged 9i and Pw. Having a Pw that's slightly weak is very manageable and resolves the need to re-work your wedges when you've got a 44^o Pw. 

Agreed.  A stronger-than-expected, and what I was used to, 44° PW has been mildly annoying to work around.  Adding loft to it isn't good, given it already has gobs of bounce. (13° per spec.  My other wedges currently all have 10°, albeit they're a different brand.)

 

I'm eventually just going to weaken the 40° 9-iron by 1, and steepen this 48° specialty wedge to 46° and go from there.  Basically duplicating what you describe, though with ~8°, a bit less bounce in the "PW".

Edited September 13, 2023 by Jayjay_theweim_guy

[MelloYello]

1 hour ago, Jayjay_theweim_guy said:

Agreed.  A stronger-than-expected, and what I was used to, 44° PW has been mildly annoying to work around.  Adding loft to it isn't good, given it already has gobs of bounce. (13° per spec.  My other wedges currently all have 10°, albeit they're a different brand.)

 

I'm eventually just going to weaken the 40° 9-iron by 1, and steepen this 48° specialty wedge to 46° and go from there.  Basically duplicating what you describe, though with ~8°, a bit less bounce in the "PW".

 

Yeah, I was likely going to have to replace my Gw and Sw to accommodate the T150 which ticked me off. Plus, I loved my current irons so it definitely wasn't worth an extra 3- or 4-yards. 

 

You just can't get around the inevitable problem loft-jacking creates. It's going to be an issue for a lot of guys who'll realize that changing iron yardages will probably force other changes, too. 

Seems to me that distance irons only make sense if a golfer is willing to build their whole bag around them. Bust out the credit card, LOL...

 

Great irons no doubt but I don't think it's worth changing if someone has traditional irons that work. I'm starting to believe what Titleist is saying about the T150 being an iron for someone 'who needs a few extra yards.' 

 

Key word there is "need."

Edited September 13, 2023 by MelloYello