New LAB DF 3 Putter Coming??

[nicholasriehl]

1 minute ago, coreyhr said:

 

The link for the stock model in the email doesn't seem to work as far as being able to purchase yet. For me at least.

Hmm....I'm seeing that now too. I'm pretty sure it was working earlier for me. Stock options were 34 or 35 inches with 69 degree lie angle and the pistol 2 degree grip. Now it doesn't look like there are any dropdowns available to choose from. Seems hard to believe they would have sold out that quickly.

[rockwallraider]

custom ordered mine,  all the normal colors, lie angles, sight line, and shafts options available

[KnoxvilleReb]

2 hours ago, nicholasriehl said:

 

If you signed up for L.A.B.'s LAB Rats email you have seen it by now. DF3 custom and stock now available for early access orders. All colors available - plus a a green one I haven't seen before - available for order. Looks sweet.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for posting this!

 

I'm not signed up for the email list but anxiously awaiting this release. Did the DF3 email give any insight into the club at all outside of that comparison photo?

[TiScape]

On 10/19/2023 at 4:15 AM, coops said:

 

In a smaller head, maybe not if titanium faced.. or perhaps not if the main ball striking face was stainless steel with less dense materials in the rest of the body - i'm thinking of or hoping of something about the size of the old Cameron Futura - which i have and like, apart from the same aluminium face feel/sound issues. Or a brass/bronze face insert... anything 😉

 

 

 

 

This reminds me of an interaction I had here a couple years ago. Guy that was constantly chiming in whenever possible to talk 💩 about Cameron. The typical stuff. Well I mentioned that at least the Futura was an original design. He replied  that it was just a copy/rip-off of a 2-ball. Looking at the pic u posted and thinking about a 2-ball, makes me shake my head all over again 😆 

The Futura looked absolutely crazy to me when it was initially released. Looking at it now, it doesn’t really stand out that much. 

[nicholasriehl]

1 hour ago, KnoxvilleReb said:

Thanks for posting this!

 

I'm not signed up for the email list but anxiously awaiting this release. Did the DF3 email give any insight into the club at all outside of that comparison photo?

 

I'd say there wasn't a whole lot of specific information. Basically it's smaller version of the DF2.1 with almost nearly as much forgiveness and stability. The hole in the putter is confirmed to be able to pick up the ball. Now that I've placed my custom order, here were the links to the stock and custom options

 

https://labgolf.com/shop/putters/df3-stock/?utm_source=klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20240117_df3launch_labrats

https://labgolf.com/shop/putters/df3-custom/?utm_source=klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20240117_df3launch_labrats

[OspreyCI]

Love to try a DF 3 Counterbalance. They just being a pretty penny for any LAB putter. I know they are worth it though. 

[UnderPar18]

Just curious, but does anyone consider themselves a really good putter and have moved to LAB and seen even better results? I ask because putting has always been a strength of mine but I am very curious in trying to game a LAB putter. 

 

Other thing I wanted to mention is has anyone been fit online for a certain Lie angle and then over the course of a year using their LAB putter need to be refit for a different lie angle? A friend of mine was fit for a LAB putter online and purchased a Mezz. It has been great for him, but he noticed it sets up more closed than when he original bought it. My first thought was his setup changed and likely needs a new lie angle. With a normal putter thats easy but with LAB putters he would need to buy a new one with different specs.

[B_of_H]

4 minutes ago, UnderPar18 said:

Just curious, but does anyone consider themselves a really good putter and have moved to LAB and seen even better results? I ask because putting has always been a strength of mine but I am very curious in trying to game a LAB putter. 

 

 

 

The issue with being 'a good putter' and switching to the lab would be an adjustment in your technique.  I 100% believe these putters are the single biggest advantage within the rules since the introduction of the solid core ball (vs wound).  That being said if you are good at manipulating a putter to stay square then you'll have to be patient in learning to let these swing on their own and trust they'll stay square.  Its more subtle than it sounds in most cases but I find myself sometimes putting too much pressure on the grip and missing putts but I immediately know that I didn't let the putter swing freely.  

 

For a putter like JT poston or brandt snedecker with handsy strokes its not a good option perhaps.  These need to be swung more like a pendulum controlled by the shoulders.  I've decided to use the tour tempo and tpm devices for the 1st time regularly to keep myself in rhythm and not using the hands with a LAB.  Previously I always had quite a bit of wrist movement and acceleration in my stroke.  

[Flush-It-Fore]

Does anyone know the total weight/club head weight of the DF3 putter? I really can't find any specs on how much this thing weights, let alone diving into the weights of the counterbalanced versions

[nicholasriehl]

1 hour ago, Flush-It-Fore said:

Does anyone know the total weight/club head weight of the DF3 putter? I really can't find any specs on how much this thing weights, let alone diving into the weights of the counterbalanced versions

Below are head weight specs I received via email on the Mezz. I imagine the DF3 is similar. The Accra shaft per their website is 140g. The steel shaft is probably 120-125g if I had to guess. I have seen it mentioned in various places that LAB has to make the head heavier to get some of the feel back. LAB says that our hands perceive torque as weight so when there’s no torque it feels super light. So the weights might be heavier but they don’t feel heavier. I had a friend of mine try a shot with my DF2.1 which has a swing weight of F3 and his immediate reaction (other than the looks) was that it felt way lighter than he was expecting. 

 

Mezz.1 

Lighter: 350g-360g

Standard: 360g-370g

Heavier: 370g-380g

 

Mezz.1 MAX 

Lighter: 360g-370g

Standard: 370g-380g

Heavier: 380g-390g

[j2nielsen]

On 1/19/2024 at 10:21 AM, UnderPar18 said:

Just curious, but does anyone consider themselves a really good putter and have moved to LAB and seen even better results? I ask because putting has always been a strength of mine but I am very curious in trying to game a LAB putter. 

 

Other thing I wanted to mention is has anyone been fit online for a certain Lie angle and then over the course of a year using their LAB putter need to be refit for a different lie angle? A friend of mine was fit for a LAB putter online and purchased a Mezz. It has been great for him, but he noticed it sets up more closed than when he original bought it. My first thought was his setup changed and likely needs a new lie angle. With a normal putter thats easy but with LAB putters he would need to buy a new one with different specs.

I am a good putter, always have been.  (My best putting round was 21 putts with my Evnroll ER8.) The reason I use the lab is that it starts the ball on my line more often than any other putter I have used.  I am consistently better with it.  I have also used mallet and center shafted putters in the past.  I believe a good putter that uses a blade would struggle with this switch.  I have always been a mallet putter.  

 

To use a LAB putter, you need to be fit or it will create a push/pull miss.

[420burner]

On 1/19/2024 at 12:21 PM, UnderPar18 said:

Just curious, but does anyone consider themselves a really good putter and have moved to LAB and seen even better results? I ask because putting has always been a strength of mine but I am very curious in trying to game a LAB putter. 

 

Other thing I wanted to mention is has anyone been fit online for a certain Lie angle and then over the course of a year using their LAB putter need to be refit for a different lie angle? A friend of mine was fit for a LAB putter online and purchased a Mezz. It has been great for him, but he noticed it sets up more closed than when he original bought it. My first thought was his setup changed and likely needs a new lie angle. With a normal putter thats easy but with LAB putters he would need to buy a new one with different specs.

Wouldn't call myself a good putter but I tried the Mezz with a 1.5 grip at pga tour ss and bought it that day. If you can find one to try I highly recommend. You should know right away if it suits you.

 

My recent putter history includes a cc newport 2, phantom 5 and 5.5. Current gamer is the Mezz. Sold everything else.

 

I just ordered a DF3 with tpt shaft and the pistol grip and going through the online fitting process now. Really impressed with the alignment options offered and they now have a counterbalance option which is nice but too pricey to buy without trying first.

 

I'm a lab convert for sure.

[TiScape]

On 1/19/2024 at 9:33 AM, B_of_H said:

 

The issue with being 'a good putter' and switching to the lab would be an adjustment in your technique.  I 100% believe these putters are the single biggest advantage within the rules since the introduction of the solid core ball (vs wound).  That being said if you are good at manipulating a putter to stay square then you'll have to be patient in learning to let these swing on their own and trust they'll stay square.  Its more subtle than it sounds in most cases but I find myself sometimes putting too much pressure on the grip and missing putts but I immediately know that I didn't let the putter swing freely.  

 

For a putter like JT poston or brandt snedecker with handsy strokes its not a good option perhaps.  These need to be swung more like a pendulum controlled by the shoulders.  I've decided to use the tour tempo and tpm devices for the 1st time regularly to keep myself in rhythm and not using the hands with a LAB.  Previously I always had quite a bit of wrist movement and acceleration in my stroke.  

How do you know these putters are legit and a big advantage? Bcs no way anything that looks like that is getting all this love (play) otherwise! 😆 

[UnderPar18]

Does DF3 have more onset than Mezz.1? I love how the Link model doesn’t have much or any at all but I hate how long it is heel to toe. 

[drvrwdge]

On 1/19/2024 at 12:21 PM, UnderPar18 said:

Just curious, but does anyone consider themselves a really good putter and have moved to LAB and seen even better results? I ask because putting has always been a strength of mine but I am very curious in trying to game a LAB putter. 

 

Other thing I wanted to mention is has anyone been fit online for a certain Lie angle and then over the course of a year using their LAB putter need to be refit for a different lie angle? A friend of mine was fit for a LAB putter online and purchased a Mezz. It has been great for him, but he noticed it sets up more closed than when he original bought it. My first thought was his setup changed and likely needs a new lie angle. With a normal putter thats easy but with LAB putters he would need to buy a new one with different specs.

Id have to agree with @j2nielsen putting is my strength but i find the LAB starting on my intended line far more often than with any other putter I have tried. I also think the Press grip has something to do with that. With a convential putter if you like to forward press, there is a bit of face manipulation you have to perform to make sure it does not open slightly when you press. With the Press grip and forward press built in theres no adjustment needed, its built into your alignment. 

 

Fitting is also 100% the only way you can go. If your LAB is too flat or upright it will 100% effect start line. I have over time, however, moved from the online fit of 69 to 67. I could adjust my set up to the 69 but 67 is where it feel natural. There is no camber in the sole so if its not flat on the surface, you feel it. 

[bbanksp]

On 1/22/2024 at 12:07 PM, drvrwdge said:

Id have to agree with @j2nielsen putting is my strength but i find the LAB starting on my intended line far more often than with any other putter I have tried. I also think the Press grip has something to do with that. With a convential putter if you like to forward press, there is a bit of face manipulation you have to perform to make sure it does not open slightly when you press. With the Press grip and forward press built in theres no adjustment needed, its built into your alignment. 

 

Fitting is also 100% the only way you can go. If your LAB is too flat or upright it will 100% effect start line. I have over time, however, moved from the online fit of 69 to 67. I could adjust my set up to the 69 but 67 is where it feel natural. There is no camber in the sole so if its not flat on the surface, you feel it. 

interesting. as time has gone by i feel like the 69 degree lie in my DF2.1 is too flat--- ball too far outside my eyeline. i just ordered a DF3 with 71 degree lie. we will see. I'm still trying to sort out whether the DF3 is actually an improvement/refinement or whether its simply made to look less off putting to those who are bothered by the appearance which seems silly.  The putter is like cheating. Who cares what it looks like

[Flush-It-Fore]

Ordered the DF3 last night and pumped to get this thing in 5-6 weeks. I ended up going with:

 

- DF3 head in black 

- Accra black shaft

- 35.5 inch length with 70 degree lie angle

- Press grip #2 1.5 textured

- Alignment lines combination of 1 + 6 (making a sideways "T")

- Heavy head weights.

 

I'll send some pics when it comes in!

[Need4spd]

Anyone happen to know if the PGA Superstore will be carrying these anytime soon?
 

Stock (34”) specs happen to fit me perfectly and I have some credit there burning a hole in my pocket. 

[Cwing]

Any in hand comparison photos out there yet comparing the size of the DF3 against non LAB putters?

 

Ive seen the overlays of the DF3 over the MEZZ Max and DF2.1 but I would like to see the comparison against others…..

[ChrisATL]

6 minutes ago, Cwing said:

Any in hand comparison photos out there yet comparing the size of the DF3 against non LAB putters?

 

Ive seen the overlays of the DF3 over the MEZZ Max and DF2.1 but I would like to see the comparison against others…..

Great question - I've only seen the overlay shot of the DF 3.0 / 2.1, but my guess is that its a bit narrower than the Mezz Max, given its comp to the 2.1.

[golowgolf801]

On 1/27/2024 at 12:24 AM, Need4spd said:

Anyone happen to know if the PGA Superstore will be carrying these anytime soon?
 

Stock (34”) specs happen to fit me perfectly and I have some credit there burning a hole in my pocket. 

I called yesterday and they told me they thought they’d have by March. I would hope sooner.

[TheRidge]

In hand…

[SEP1006]

6 minutes ago, TheRidge said:

In hand…

 

 

Seriously, only 1 pic. C'mon man this is WRX, we need MORE !!!!

 

 

 

[TheRidge]

First time I’ve seen this grip, the logo is all over the grip and the headcover, looks great…Fiddlers Green Golf Shop, ask for Sam…they are about 30 min from Lab…Sam is a great guy…mom and pop shop, been around forever, wonderful people

 

Edited February 6 by TheRidge
blank photo sorry

[TheRidge]

Side by side is against Cameron 009…

[outfitter]

Thanks for the extra pics, love this putter!

[SEP1006]

9 minutes ago, TheRidge said:

First time I’ve seen this grip, the logo is all over the grip and the headcover, looks great…Fiddlers Green Golf Shop, ask for Sam…they are about 30 min from Lab…Sam is a great guy…mom and pop shop, been around forever, wonderful people

 

 

Wow, thanks for the pics. The actual blade part is smaller than I thought with the ball in front of it, which is a good thing. 

 

Definitely ordering one now !!!!

 

 

 

 

[Flush-It-Fore]

Thoughts on the Press Pistol Grip vs. something like the Press 2 1.5?

 

I ordered the latter, but now having some regrets

[Flush-It-Fore]

Just a question I was curious about... I've ordered my DF3 with a Press 2 1.5 grip and I'm sure I'll be more than happy with it; however, if I were to also order a secondary grip (Press Pistol 2) either through the LAB website or a certified retailer, could I have a certified fitter swap it out, and not have it mess around with the torque balance after some use if I didn't get along with the former? Or would I have to send it back to LAB to do that?

[TheRidge]

Message Sam…I’m sure he’d love to talk technical stuff about the grip(s) with you