Predict the outcome ... New Irons Shootout - 245, i230, Blueprint S, P790, T150, ZX7

[Hawkeye77]

No Mizuno 923 forged?

 

Best feeling irons I’ve had in forever - and I’ve owned way too many!

[longoffthetees]

9 hours ago, Hawkeye77 said:

No Mizuno 923 forged?

 

Best feeling irons I’ve had in forever - and I’ve owned way too many!

I hit my buddies and just didn’t like them as much as the others I tried. Good clubs for sure. 

[longoffthetees]

Another day on the course and I can say the i230’s are making a charge from the middle of the pack. So predictable and consistent. Maybe the easiest to hit on a consistent basis and the long irons are much easier to handle. 

[Sam217]

11 hours ago, longoffthetees said:

Another day on the course and I can say the i230’s are making a charge from the middle of the pack. So predictable and consistent. Maybe the easiest to hit on a consistent basis and the long irons are much easier to handle. 

If only the i230s didn't feel crummy at least IMO they might be the perfect iron. Had hoped the BPS would be that and while great it's certainly a bit smaller and at least somewhat more demanding.

[longoffthetees]

7 hours ago, Sam217 said:

If only the i230s didn't feel crummy at least IMO they might be the perfect iron. Had hoped the BPS would be that and while great it's certainly a bit smaller and at least somewhat more demanding.

I can agree with this. I230’s don’t feel as bad as the T150’s or p790’s IMO. The BPS are amazing if you are on, they can be tough if the swing isn’t on point. That’s my major concern. I play a lot of winter golf and don’t need more challenges during that time. 

[poor_putting]

My vote is between blueprint S and ZX7!

[mason82]

Got 9 in with the BPS….this may my set this year. Slight Beat the 923 Tours in almost every way. 

[Soccerrick10]

Data comparison: How does the Ping Blueprint S compare to leading competitor Players’ Irons?

Iron	7-Iron Loft	Ball Speed	Launch Angle	Backspin	Height	Descent Angle	Carry Distance	Carry Distance Drop Off	Shot Area
PXG 0317 T	32°	125 MPH (1)	15.6°	5343 RPM	32 YDS	45.1°	182 YDS (1)	6 YDS	118.2 SQ YDS
PXG 0317 CB	33°	122.8 MPH	16.6°	5568 RPM	32 YDS	45.7°	179 YDS (T2)	7 YDS	142.1 SQ YDS
Vega VDC	31°	124.4 MPH (2)	14.8°	5703 RPM	30 YDS	44.4°	179 YDS (T2)	8 YDS	236.8 SQ YDS
Srixon ZX7 MK II	32°	122.9 MPH (3)	16.7°	5757 RPM	32 YDS	46.1°	178 YDS	7 YDS	57.4 SQ YDS
Sub 70 659 CB	32°	122.8 MPH	15.3°	5683 RPM	30 YDS	44.2°	178 YDS	8 YDS	70.4 SQ YDS
More MOD 1	32°	121.5 MPH	15.9°	5370 RPM	30 YDS	44.1°	178 YDS	2 YDS (1)	48.4 SQ YDS (2)
Ping Blueprint S	33°	121.3 MPH	16.7°	5498 RPM	31 YDS	45.1°	177 YDS	9 YDS	188.1 SQ YDS
Titleist T150	32°	122.6 MPH	17.5°	5686 RPM	34 YDS	46.8°	177 YDS	4 YDS (2)	53.6 SQ YDS (3)
Takomo 201	32°	122.6 MPH	15.7°	6070 RPM	31 YDS	45°	176 YDS	9 YDS	119.7 SQ YDS
Cobra King Tour	32°	120.9 MPH	15.4°	5534 RPM	29 YDS	43.1°	176 YDS	9 YDS	253.8 SQ YDS
TaylorMade P770	33°	122.3 MPH	17.8°	6143 RPM	34 YDS	47.5°	175 YDS	9 YDS	200.7 SQ YDS
Mizuno JPX923 Tour	34°	121 MPH	16.2°	5704 RPM	30 YDS	44.6°	175 YDS	9 YDS	171 SQ YDS
Vega VSC	31°	121.7 MPH	15.2°	5943 RPM	29 YDS	43.8°	175 YDS	14 YDS	387.8 SQ YDS
Callaway Apex 24 Pro	33°	122.4 MPH	16.2°	6026 RPM	27 YDS	43.3°	174 YDS	7 YDS	128.1 SQ YDS
Callaway Apex TCB	34°	121.9 MPH	16.6°	5189 RPM	32 YDS	46.1°	174 YDS	5 YDS (3)	46 SQ YDS (1)
Mizuno Pro 243	32°	122.2 MPH	16.6°	6035 RPM	32 YDS	46.3°	174 YDS	18 YDS	387 SQ YDS
Ping i230	33°	121.3 MPH	16.4°	5821 RPM	31 YDS	45.7°	173 YDS	19 YDS	248.9 SQ YDS
Sub 70 639 CB	32°	122.3 MPH	15.4°	6584 RPM	30 YDS	45.4°	173 YDS	13 YDS	266.5 SQ YDS
Callaway Apex 24 CB	34°	120.6 MPH	16.7°	6235 RPM	31 YDS	46.2°	170 YDS	9 YDS	151.2 SQ YDS
Takomo 301 CB	34°	120 MPH	17.3°	6410 RPM	32 YDS	46.4°	170 YDS	7 YDS	152.6 SQ YDS
TaylorMade P7MC	34°	119.5 MPH	18°	6226 RPM	33 YDS	47.2°	169 YDS	11 YDS	135.3 SQ YDS
Wilson Staff Model CB	34°	118.6 MPH	16.3°	6221 RPM	29 YDS	44.8°	169 YDS	6 YDS	76.8 SQ YDS
Titleist T100	34°	118.1 MPH	17.3°	5677 RPM	31 YDS	45.4°	169 YDS	8 YDS	107.2 SQ YDS
Ben Hogan PTX Tour	33.5°	117.9 MPH	16°	5767 RPM	28 YDS	43.5°	169 YDS	11 YDS	335.5 SQ YDS
Titleist 620 CB	34°	117.9 MPH	17.9°	6127 RPM	32 YDS	46.5°	167 YDS	13 YDS	274.3 SQ YDS
Average		121.4 MPH	16.4°	5853 RPM	30.9 YDS	45.3°	174.2 YDS	9.1 YDS	174.3 SQ YDS

[NZ315]

My vote is T150 that what is in my bag for the season. I don’t think they are at all clicky. At least not for me

Edited April 25 by NZ315

[JourdanM]

On 4/19/2024 at 9:07 PM, elwhippy said:

Be aware the Blueprint S is poor for distance. Feels great, looks great, goes nowhere compared to most rivals. 

I don't even know where to begin with how inaccurate this statement is 

[Pnwpingi210]

My guess is zx7 if you like the soles and the rathe long heel to toe length.

 

if not.  Bps or i230.  I think the bps require a better strikes but easier to dial in with a shaft.  I230 are tougher if you have some club head speed and have a steeper angle of attack.

[longoffthetees]

About to wrap this up and a major surprise has happened. Played 2 9 hole rounds hitting nothing but irons with each set and was blown away by a set. Going to do a massive range session tomorrow and make the final call. 

[jt2gt]

8 minutes ago, longoffthetees said:

About to wrap this up and a major surprise has happened. Played 2 9 hole rounds hitting nothing but irons with each set and was blown away by a set. Going to do a massive range session tomorrow and make the final call. 

Guessing zx7. I’m blown away by the distance and feel from zx7. Nothing gives both like this iron. Was testing zx7 vs popular player distance iron and it was hanging shot for shot and felt amazing. 

[longoffthetees]

21 minutes ago, jt2gt said:

Guessing zx7. I’m blown away by the distance and feel from zx7. Nothing gives both like this iron. Was testing zx7 vs popular player distance iron and it was hanging shot for shot and felt amazing. 

ZX7 is solid, but they are in the middle of the pack for me. I plan on using a ZX5 4 Iron if the current pick makes it through one more trial. 

[ChipLife]

I snagged a set of zx7's off of BST, and they aren't going to knock the i230s out of the bag. i230s are predictable and forgiving for my most common low/heel miss. T150s or 245s will prob be next contenders but feels kinda pointless to tinker.

[longoffthetees]

8 hours ago, ChipLife said:

I snagged a set of zx7's off of BST, and they aren't going to knock the i230s out of the bag. i230s are predictable and forgiving for my most common low/heel miss. T150s or 245s will prob be next contenders but feels kinda pointless to tinker.

Funny you posted this, that’s my final 3

 

T150, i230, 245

[Jujhar77]

41 minutes ago, longoffthetees said:

Funny you posted this, that’s my final 3

 

T150, i230, 245

Did you make your final decision? I’ve been looking at a lot of the same irons, I’m stuck on the 245, i230, but can’t get the blueprint s out of my mind even though it’s a bit harder to hit. I currently have the 223 and really not a fan (gapping and turf interaction issues) and wanted a little more forgiveness. 

[ChipLife]

7 hours ago, longoffthetees said:

Funny you posted this, that’s my final 3

 

T150, i230, 245

I'll be curious where you end up! What shaft are you using to compare? 

[C_rad]

8 hours ago, Jujhar77 said:

Did you make your final decision? I’ve been looking at a lot of the same irons, I’m stuck on the 245, i230, but can’t get the blueprint s out of my mind even though it’s a bit harder to hit. I currently have the 223 and really not a fan (gapping and turf interaction issues) and wanted a little more forgiveness. 

Same here. I have the 223 and feel like i could use more forgiveness mist of the time. Would like to try the i230 but i feel like if i try them, its over! 

[Jag80]

On 4/18/2024 at 10:17 PM, longoffthetees said:

Quick thoughts on all the sets:

 

As things stand now:

1) Blueprint S (going to take some special to knock them out)

2) ZX7 Mkii (would be tough to beat in most cases) 

2A) i230 (just solid clubs)

3) Pro 245 (still has a chance) 

4) P790 (just not for me)

5) T150 (so disappointed in the feel here)

What happened here? T150 last and now in Top 3...Who got to you Man? 😆

[longoffthetees]

31 minutes ago, Jag80 said:

What happened here? T150 last and now in Top 3...Who got to you Man? 😆

One little change in my swing and they came to life. Changed the feel completely. 

[longoffthetees]

2 hours ago, ChipLife said:

I'll be curious where you end up! What shaft are you using to compare? 

Steelfiber 

[longoffthetees]

8 hours ago, Jujhar77 said:

Did you make your final decision? I’ve been looking at a lot of the same irons, I’m stuck on the 245, i230, but can’t get the blueprint s out of my mind even though it’s a bit harder to hit. I currently have the 223 and really not a fan (gapping and turf interaction issues) and wanted a little more forgiveness. 

I like the BPS. Best feeling iron in my group. Also the most demanding. Swing needs to be on point. 

[Pnwpingi210]

12 hours ago, longoffthetees said:

I like the BPS. Best feeling iron in my group. Also the most demanding. Swing needs to be on point. 

Thats fascinating to me.

 

are you a relatively shallow aoa player?  I found the bps to be a extremely consistent across the face but I’m around 4 degrees down aoa.

 

the 150s seem to need almost a shallow, thin strike to get anything other than a high spinny flight.  It’s almost like the are meant to be hit on the first couple of grooves low on the face.

 

Edited Sunday at 01:08 AM by Pnwpingi210
Grammar

[AbSWFPGA]

13 hours ago, longoffthetees said:

I like the BPS. Best feeling iron in my group. Also the most demanding. Swing needs to be on point. 

One of the few times I have heard this about BPS. most speak about how relatively forgiving they are 

[jt2gt]

On 4/25/2024 at 9:43 PM, longoffthetees said:

ZX7 is solid, but they are in the middle of the pack for me. I plan on using a ZX5 4 Iron if the current pick makes it through one more trial. 

So what was the surprise contender?

[HappyGilmore22]

Anyone have gapping issues with the ZX7 in the short irons? Looking at them the PW is 46 deg, 9 41 deg, and 8 36 deg. Seems like a lot  of loft between clubs for what I'm used to. I've considered testing out a set to see how I get along with the v sole so curious what people think. Also considering testing out the BPS. Coming from T100 2019s (bent 1 deg strong) I just want something that spins less and launch lower. T150 just go way too high for me and PW is too strong at 44 deg.

Edited Sunday at 02:30 PM by HappyGilmore22

[Pnwpingi210]

1 hour ago, HappyGilmore22 said:

Anyone have gapping issues with the ZX7 in the short irons? Looking at them the PW is 46 deg, 9 41 deg, and 8 36 deg. Seems like a lot  of loft between clubs for what I'm used to. I've considered testing out a set to see how I get along with the v sole so curious what people think. Also considering testing out the BPS. Coming from T100 2019s (bent 1 deg strong) I just want something that spins less and launch lower. T150 just go way too high for me and PW is too strong at 44 deg.

I’ve hit a lot of ( and unfortunately owned) irons in the last 36 months.

 

zx7 were the lowest launching spinning for sure.  Felt great off mats, hated them off real turf.  No gapping issues.  If the sole and longer heel to toe length works for you, this is the answer.

 

the next batch that worked well were the cobra mb/cb, Wilson mb/cbs, and throwing bps.  All 5 of these iron sets flew and spun relatively low loft for loft (which I prefer).  Note the bps have the strongest lofts and the flew the farthest.  The Wilson’s have more bounce and would do better if you need to strengthen.  Cobras had less bounce and a flatter sole and maybe a touch higher spin.

 

the cobra tours, i230, t150s and p770 all kind of grouped together.  Launched higher and spun more with more ball speed.  This group actually carried the least for me due to higher spin and launch. 

Edited Sunday at 04:21 PM by Pnwpingi210

[blades_are_life]

2 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

I’ve hit a lot of ( and unfortunately owned) irons in the last 36 months.

 

zx7 were the lowest launching spinning for sure.  Felt great off mats, hated them off real turf.  No gapping issues.  If the sole and longer heel to toe length works for you, this is the answer.

 

the next batch the worked well were the cobra mb/cb, Wilson mb/cbs, and throwing bps.  All 5 of these iron sets flew and spun relatively low loft for loft.  Note the bps have the strongest lofts and the flew the farthest.  The Wilson’s have more bounce and would do better if you need to strengthen.  Cobras had less bounce and a flatter sole and maybe a touch higher spin.

 

the cobra tours, i230, t150s and p770 all kind of grouped together.  Launched higher and spun more with more ball speed.  This group actually carried the least for me due to higher spin and launch. 

ZX7 are very love or hate because of the sole design imo.

[Pnwpingi210]

1 minute ago, blades_are_life said:

ZX7 are very love or hate because of the sole design imo.

Yup - couldn’t agree more.  They also have a longer heel to toe length and the hosel to face transition visually magnifies the offset a bit.

 

On the course I fought a thin strike and a unwanted draw with them.

Edited Sunday at 04:25 PM by Pnwpingi210