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So Scotty Cameron invented the honeycomb milling too?

 

I knew he developed the Anser-style that Karsten Solheim stole from him but i didn't realize Bob Bettinardi was a thief too! UNREAL!!!!

 

 

 

 

And yes, I really don't GAF or a S!!

 

Nope. Bettinardi invented the honeycomb milling. Remember, at the time Bettinardi was doing ALL the milling for Cameron. Bettinardi probably did some experimenting with the milling machine, thus the honeycomb face on a Cameron head.

 

Or so I've read.... ;)

 

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Here’s what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn’t need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn’t budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It’s no big thing…..Bluto

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So Scotty Cameron invented the honeycomb milling too?

 

I knew he developed the Anser-style that Karsten Solheim stole from him but i didn't realize Bob Bettinardi was a thief too! UNREAL!!!!

 

 

 

 

And yes, I really don't GAF or a S!!

 

Nope. Bettinardi invented the honeycomb milling. Remember, at the time Bettinardi was doing ALL the milling for Cameron. Bettinardi probably did some experimenting with the milling machine, thus the honeycomb face on a Cameron head.

 

Or so I've read.... ;)

 

Kevin

 

I believe I read that Scotty never approved this, therefore it does not exist.

 

Afterall, if we've learned one thing from this thread, it's that if Scotty didn't authorize it, it must not be real. Afterall, stamping 1/5 on a putter makes it obvious that only 5 exist. Scotty would never misstamp a putter, would he?

 

Did Scotty authorize discussion in this thread? :rolleyes:

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So Scotty Cameron invented the honeycomb milling too?

 

I knew he developed the Anser-style that Karsten Solheim stole from him but i didn't realize Bob Bettinardi was a thief too! UNREAL!!!!

 

 

 

 

And yes, I really don't GAF or a S!!

 

Nope. Bettinardi invented the honeycomb milling. Remember, at the time Bettinardi was doing ALL the milling for Cameron. Bettinardi probably did some experimenting with the milling machine, thus the honeycomb face on a Cameron head.

 

Or so I've read.... ;)

 

Kevin

 

I believe I read that Scotty never approved this, therefore it does not exist.

 

Afterall, if we've learned one thing from this thread, it's that if Scotty didn't authorize it, it must not be real. Afterall, stamping 1/5 on a putter makes it obvious that only 5 exist. Scotty would never misstamp a putter, would he?

 

Did Scotty authorize discussion in this thread? :rolleyes:

 

 

Shhh... big brother is watching... and if he catches you trash talking his dynasty, he'll do to you what he did to these poor souls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jPxtHqj5hY

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That is sick. How many were made? I searched in the registry and couldn't find any.

But I have to admit, Im not good at searching. :)

 

 

That is sick. How many were made? I searched in the registry and couldn't find any.

But I have to admit, Im not good at searching. :)

 

Lots of info here:

 

http://www.puttertalk.com/community/index....pic,1694.0.html

 

http://www.cameroncollector.com/forum/inde...ic,40269.0.html

 

 

 

 

Thanks littlepingman for the info

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Here’s what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn’t need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn’t budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It’s no big thing…..Bluto

 

Chris, here's what I don't understand about that scenario. If the potential buyer has "unlimited funds" and really wants a collectible like a Classic Mini, then why let the deal pass him by for $5,000? I guess if I had unlimited funds and wanted something this rare (whether 1/5, 1/8, or whatever), I'd pony up the extra $5,000. You never know when you might have the opportunity again to purchase one.

 

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So Scotty Cameron invented the honeycomb milling too?

 

I knew he developed the Anser-style that Karsten Solheim stole from him but i didn't realize Bob Bettinardi was a thief too! UNREAL!!!!

 

 

 

 

And yes, I really don't GAF or a S!!

 

Nope. Bettinardi invented the honeycomb milling. Remember, at the time Bettinardi was doing ALL the milling for Cameron. Bettinardi probably did some experimenting with the milling machine, thus the honeycomb face on a Cameron head.

 

Or so I've read.... ;)

 

Kevin

 

I believe I read that Scotty never approved this, therefore it does not exist.

 

Afterall, if we've learned one thing from this thread, it's that if Scotty didn't authorize it, it must not be real. Afterall, stamping 1/5 on a putter makes it obvious that only 5 exist. Scotty would never misstamp a putter, would he?

 

Did Scotty authorize discussion in this thread? :rolleyes:

 

 

Shhh... big brother is watching... and if he catches you trash talking his dynasty, he'll do to you what he did to these poor souls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jPxtHqj5hY

 

Rumor mill was that Michael Jackson owned the fabled 6th, 7th, and 8th Classic Mini. He was going to put them on the market, thereby discrediting Scotty's claim of 5. Well, you know what they did to him:

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There's always 3 sides to every story!

 

1. Scotty's

2. Bob's

3. The Cold Hard Truth

 

Actually when Scotty and Bob parted ways in the late 1990's Scotty decided to sue Bob. As part of the litigation settlement Scotty wanted Bob to agree to never divulge or discuss any of their business dealings. Bob refused to these terms and he negotiated the agreement to read that he would not discuss any of their business dealings unless what he was saying was the truth. I do not thing the same terms applied to Scotty.

 

It has never been a problem for Bob to uphold his end of the agreement. So I guess there would only be :

 

1) Scotty's version

2) The truth told by Bob.

 

So I guess a reunion for Scotty and Bob isn't going to happen...

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Here's what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn't need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn't budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It's no big thing…..Bluto

 

 

dude, if $40k is no big thing for someone that has "unlimited funds" wtf is another $5k to that person???

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The reason I have been quiet is because I have been busy folding sweaters at work, haha. There is too much stuff to respond to right now and will try to do it later tonight.

 

I do have one thing to say to foregasim or should I say John Ronxxxxno, or JR as he is known on other forums. If you dont like Cameron stuff thats fine with me. You have your beliefs and I have mine, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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There's always 3 sides to every story!

 

1. Scotty's

2. Bob's

3. The Cold Hard Truth

 

Actually when Scotty and Bob parted ways in the late 1990's Scotty decided to sue Bob. As part of the litigation settlement Scotty wanted Bob to agree to never divulge or discuss any of their business dealings. Bob refused to these terms and he negotiated the agreement to read that he would not discuss any of their business dealings unless what he was saying was the truth. I do not thing the same terms applied to Scotty.

 

It has never been a problem for Bob to uphold his end of the agreement. So I guess there would only be :

 

1) Scotty's version

2) The truth told by Bob.

 

So I guess a reunion for Scotty and Bob isn't going to happen...

 

It was all Yoko's fault. She insisted that Phantom of the Opera masks and gloved assistants was the only way to present a putter.

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Here’s what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn’t need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn’t budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It’s no big thing…..Bluto

 

If the person in question had unlimited funds and was willing to part with 40 g's for a putter what is 5 g's more? Seems weird that he or she wouldn't spend the extra money to buy it.

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I think you guys are hillarious! The whole Scotty Cameron thing is like a ponzi scheme. Eventually, a computer will be hacked, and all the info will spill out. I hate to say it, but is very obvious, unless you're an ostrich and have your head buried in the sand, that Cameron's are so overvalued that it is unbelievable. Even the off the rack models, probably made in sweat shops for $10 each. Yet we drool for the next release of his Ping copy....ie. KOMBI.

 

False, made in the USA, see the 3 Kombi videos on the right. Oops, it's from Scotty, must be a lie.

 

http://www.scottycameron.com/studio/videos.aspx

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Here’s what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn’t need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn’t budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It’s no big thing…..Bluto

 

Chris, here's what I don't understand about that scenario. If the potential buyer has "unlimited funds" and really wants a collectible like a Classic Mini, then why let the deal pass him by for $5,000? I guess if I had unlimited funds and wanted something this rare (whether 1/5, 1/8, or whatever), I'd pony up the extra $5,000. You never know when you might have the opportunity again to purchase one.

 

Kevin

 

 

Here's what I know to be a fact….My Asian business partner, wire transferred $40,000.00 cash to one of our bank accounts. The seller of the mini in question (a personal friend also)wanted $45,000.00 and my partner wanted to only pay $40,000.00….The seller didn't need to sell at 40k and the buyer wouldn't budge end of story….To the people who state that $40,000.00 is ridicules, for people who have unlimited funds….It's no big thing…..Bluto

 

 

dude, if $40k is no big thing for someone that has "unlimited funds" wtf is another $5k to that person???

 

 

 

 

 

Not to go into the details of others private business but; one party felt they had a deal at one price and other felt that that was not the case, they drew a line in the sand and to this day no one has blinked……By the way, the 40k still sits there in the bank…Chris

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The reason I have been quiet is because I have been busy folding sweaters at work, haha. There is too much stuff to respond to right now and will try to do it later tonight.

 

I do have one thing to say to foregasim or should I say John Ronxxxxno, or JR as he is known on other forums. If you dont like Cameron stuff thats fine with me. You have your beliefs and I have mine, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

So, by naming John, are you giving creedance to the fact that he knows a thing or two about Camerons? Therefore, to the people that were asking him to back up his claims, aren't you giving credibility to his statements?

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There's always 3 sides to every story!

 

1. Scotty's

2. Bob's

3. The Cold Hard Truth

 

Actually when Scotty and Bob parted ways in the late 1990's Scotty decided to sue Bob. As part of the litigation settlement Scotty wanted Bob to agree to never divulge or discuss any of their business dealings. Bob refused to these terms and he negotiated the agreement to read that he would not discuss any of their business dealings unless what he was saying was the truth. I do not thing the same terms applied to Scotty.

 

It has never been a problem for Bob to uphold his end of the agreement. So I guess there would only be :

 

1) Scotty's version

2) The truth told by Bob.

 

So I guess a reunion for Scotty and Bob isn't going to happen...

 

It was all Yoko's fault. She insisted that Phantom of the Opera masks and gloved assistants was the only way to present a putter.

 

Damn Yoko first she broke up the Beetles then she broke up Scotty and Bob who's next....

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1) This thread has been GREAT to read. Honestly!

 

2) I would give my left n*t, possibly both n*ts for that Scotty with the honeycomb...OMFG drooooooooooooooooooooool

 

 

It has gotten even better over the last 1/2 hour....now the posts are just fishing for anything to escalate the fight.

 

BTW - nice avatar.

 

To everyone else.....my apologies. All I wanted was to compare the 3/4 betti to the mini. A thread was started to show the pic and it could not be left alone....just like most of the cameron posts that show up on here.

 

Stage - thanks for taking this to a whole new level.

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The reason I have been quiet is because I have been busy folding sweaters at work, haha. There is too much stuff to respond to right now and will try to do it later tonight.

 

I do have one thing to say to foregasim or should I say John Ronxxxno, or JR as he is known on other forums. If you dont like Cameron stuff thats fine with me. You have your beliefs and I have mine, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

So, by naming John, are you giving creedance to the fact that he knows a thing or two about Camerons? Therefore, to the people that were asking him to back up his claims, aren't you giving credibility to his statements?

 

+1

 

If "foregasim" is John Rondoxxxo, then he has INSTANT credibility. Very few have been as involved in the "Cameron World" as John once was, and very few had the collection of putters, grips and other accessories he had.

 

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Scotty is both a marketing genious and master manipulator. Most extremely successful business men step on alot of people along the way, sounds like Scotty is no different. I've been thinking about this already before reading this thread. I will never buy another Scotty again, for a variety of reasons, this pushed me personally over the edge. I can't wait until that Nike, Gillette and Gatorade dude starts using his Nike flatstick. That will be the begining of the end.

 

You know what I'm done being a club ho as well, always Indian not the arrow. If you can putt or hit a driver it doesn't matter if they are from wal mart for $30 each or from a big OEM for $300+. Great thread, this is putting the club business into perspective for me. Actually they can all kiss my a**, I'm going to buy some scrap metal, cut down a tree (persimon baby) and find an old tire (grips) and make my own sticks. :blind:

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The reason I have been quiet is because I have been busy folding sweaters at work, haha. There is too much stuff to respond to right now and will try to do it later tonight.

 

I do have one thing to say to foregasim or should I say John Ronxxxino, or JR as he is known on other forums. If you dont like Cameron stuff thats fine with me. You have your beliefs and I have mine, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

So, by naming John, are you giving creedance to the fact that he knows a thing or two about Camerons? Therefore, to the people that were asking him to back up his claims, aren't you giving credibility to his statements?

 

 

Well then, hello John! Didn't know that was you.

 

 

 

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The reason I have been quiet is because I have been busy folding sweaters at work, haha. There is too much stuff to respond to right now and will try to do it later tonight.

 

I do have one thing to say to foregasim or should I say John Ronxxxxno, or JR as he is known on other forums. If you dont like Cameron stuff thats fine with me. You have your beliefs and I have mine, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

 

Agree to disagree ????

 

Foregasim posted facts then was asked to back them up which he did. So are you calling him a liar or is everything Foregasim posted just his opinion ?

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Maybe Nickpoz can discuss the Ryder Cup putters he was selling to TCC insiders.

instead of attacking JR

 

Didn't you read earlier? There were some wrinkled cardigans in the window display. Have patience. :rolleyes:

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      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Monday #2
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #1
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #2
      2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Pierceson Coody - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Kris Kim - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      David Nyfjall - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Adrien Dumont de Chassart - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Jarred Jetter - North Texas PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Richy Werenski - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Wesley Bryan - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Parker Coody - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Peter Kuest - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Blaine Hale, Jr. - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Kelly Kraft - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Rico Hoey - WITB - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Adam Scott's 2 new custom L.A.B. Golf putters - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
      Scotty Cameron putters - 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Zurich Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Alex Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Austin Cook - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Alejandro Tosti - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      MJ Daffue - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Nate Lashley - WITB - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      MJ Daffue's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Cameron putters - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Swag covers ( a few custom for Nick Hardy) - 2024 Zurich Classic
      Custom Bettinardi covers for Matt and Alex Fitzpatrick - 2024 Zurich Classic
       
       
       
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    • 2024 RBC Heritage - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #1
      2024 RBC Heritage - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Thomas Detry - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Austin Eckroat - WITB - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Wyndham Clark's Odyssey putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      JT's new Cameron putter - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Justin Thomas testing new Titleist 2 wood - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Cameron putters - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Odyssey putter with triple track alignment aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
      Scotty Cameron The Blk Box putting alignment aid/training aid - 2024 RBC Heritage
       
       
       
       
       
       
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