Nike RZN Balls

Just wondering why Nike didn't keep making the RZN balls. No R&D costs and sell at $35 A dozen for a premium urethane ball do you think they would make money?

I wish they would have as well. The RZN tour black Volt is my favorite ball ever! I just got 8 doz KSigs and have no desire to play them because they can't be as low spin off the driver as the RZN.

The Black Volt is my favorite as well. Just ordered 10 dozen Volts and 10 dozen blacks. Nothing seems as straight or as far as the black.

For sure the RZN Tour's are great balls; still have 22 dozen to play before I start looking to make a change. If I didn't have the 22 dozen I would have made a change a year ago when Nike left the equipment business.

Nike had very little of the retail ball market. Probably even at $35 a dozen there would not be enough ball sales to operate a dedicated ball production facility.

RAZN Tour Black and Platinums are the "Milestone" ball for me. Best score overall with a black. First Eagle with a platinum. First round with 3 birdies with a black Volt.

I wanna find all i can and take them. I am down to a dozen blacks, dozen black volts and I think 2 sleeves platinum.

RAZN Tour Black and Platinums are the "Milestone" ball for me. Best score overall with a black. First Eagle with a platinum. First round with 3 birdies with a black Volt.

 

I wanna find all i can and take them. I am down to a dozen blacks, dozen black volts and I think 2 sleeves platinum.

Did you check Dunham's when they had the RZN Tour Platinum "practice" ones on clearance?

Platinums were one of the best balls I've ever hit. Had it all.

I wish they would have as well. The RZN tour black Volt is my favorite ball ever! I just got 8 doz KSigs and have no desire to play them because they can't be as low spin off the driver as the RZN.

Me too brother. Cleared out my town of the final 9 dozen they had.

I love playing a yellow ball and it was nice to get premium performance out of it.

I'm on the hunt for my next ball for next year as I'll run out within the next few months.

RZN Black Volt is my favorite as well. Really going to miss them when I run out. Probably try the NXT Tour S yellow.

I wish they would have as well. The RZN tour black Volt is my favorite ball ever! I just got 8 doz KSigs and have no desire to play them because they can't be as low spin off the driver as the RZN.

Sell me your k-sigs! :)

RAZN Tour Black and Platinums are the "Milestone" ball for me. Best score overall with a black. First Eagle with a platinum. First round with 3 birdies with a black Volt.

 

I wanna find all i can and take them. I am down to a dozen blacks, dozen black volts and I think 2 sleeves platinum.

Going to put 10 dozen platinums on BST today

RAZN Tour Black and Platinums are the "Milestone" ball for me. Best score overall with a black. First Eagle with a platinum. First round with 3 birdies with a black Volt.

 

I wanna find all i can and take them. I am down to a dozen blacks, dozen black volts and I think 2 sleeves platinum.

Going to put 10 dozen platinums on BST today

Are these the "practice" ones? I have like six dozen of the 'practice" ones with blue RZN and blue number that I will be listing sometime soon I hope!

RAZN Tour Black and Platinums are the "Milestone" ball for me. Best score overall with a black. First Eagle with a platinum. First round with 3 birdies with a black Volt.

 

I wanna find all i can and take them. I am down to a dozen blacks, dozen black volts and I think 2 sleeves platinum.

Going to put 10 dozen platinums on BST today

 

Are these the "practice" ones? I have like six dozen of the 'practice" ones with blue RZN and blue number that I will be listing sometime soon I hope!

No they were retail balls. They sold quick

I was in a Dunhams a couple days ago and they still had the Platinum Tour practice balls. They werent at 7.99 anymore but still a steal at 14.99. If you don't care if you're ridiculed for playing a practice ball in competition it's still worthy of stocking up some. I wouldn't go too crazy stocking up just in case they bring back the 7.99 price. That's worthy of a mega stock up such as this site has rarely seen. I wouldn't call them my favorite ball ever, but for a max of 15 a dozen, they're my favorite tour ball that I can load up on. Wish I'd have got in on that action at 8 bucks. I'd have golf balls for the next decade or more. If they come up on that price again, my stash might outlive me.

I was able to track down 5 dozen at a shop near me. They werent marked down crazy (30.00/dozen) but since its my fave ball I scooped them up.

Gives me 9 dozen black volt color for the next season or two. I can delay trying out balls for at least one season.

Must admit Nike pulling out of hard goods REALLY pissed me off (see signature for why), but the bit I was most annoyed about was them stopping production of balls. My Go To ball for competition play has had a swoosh on it pretty much since 2003 and the Tour Accuracy TW. Then graduated through the various One models, skipped the 20XI (what the hell did they do there), then moved to the RZN range in 2015.

Luckily I've got 7 doz Plats and 5 doz Blacks to be going on with, so should be ok for the next year or 2. Anyone have any idea what's happened to Nikes patents/staff? Might help with what to try next....

Must admit Nike pulling out of hard goods REALLY pissed me off (see signature for why), but the bit I was most annoyed about was them stopping production of balls. My Go To ball for competition play has had a swoosh on it pretty much since 2003 and the Tour Accuracy TW. Then graduated through the various One models, skipped the 20XI (what the hell did they do there), then moved to the RZN range in 2015.

 

Luckily I've got 7 doz Plats and 5 doz Blacks to be going on with, so should be ok for the next year or 2. Anyone have any idea what's happened to Nikes patents/staff? Might help with what to try next....

Ping actually bought their patents from what I heard...And Ping is my favorite club maker.

Must admit Nike pulling out of hard goods REALLY pissed me off (see signature for why), but the bit I was most annoyed about was them stopping production of balls. My Go To ball for competition play has had a swoosh on it pretty much since 2003 and the Tour Accuracy TW. Then graduated through the various One models, skipped the 20XI (what the hell did they do there), then moved to the RZN range in 2015.

 

Luckily I've got 7 doz Plats and 5 doz Blacks to be going on with, so should be ok for the next year or 2. Anyone have any idea what's happened to Nikes patents/staff? Might help with what to try next....

 

Ping actually bought their patents from what I heard...And Ping is my favorite club maker.

Rock Ishi (sp?) I believe is now at Callaway so their balls may be RZN esque in the coming year.

RZN tour black is probably my favorite ball off the driver ever. Great Ball.

RZN tour black is a favourite ball. Managed to source another 8 dozen so I'm well stocked

Hi guys and gals!

Can someone please help me here :)

Im going to stock up on rzn tours, but have no idea what to pick, blacks or plats. Im a ProV1x player rather then ProV. Is it natural to go black or as some people in here say that plats are more like V1x? So yeah, what of the 2 is more compareable to V1x.

Hi guys and gals!

 

Can someone please help me here :)

 

Im going to stock up on rzn tours, but have no idea what to pick, blacks or plats. Im a ProV1x player rather then ProV. Is it natural to go black or as some people in here say that plats are more like V1x? So yeah, what of the 2 is more compareable to V1x.

Black

Hi guys and gals!

 

Can someone please help me here :)

 

Im going to stock up on rzn tours, but have no idea what to pick, blacks or plats. Im a ProV1x player rather then ProV. Is it natural to go black or as some people in here say that plats are more like V1x? So yeah, what of the 2 is more compareable to V1x.

Depends on what year V1/X you are comparing to.

The RZN Tour Platinum has a 74 compression and plays a lot like the Chrome (or similar to a B330S) - but better.

The RZN Tour Black has a 79 compression and spins less, so take it from there...

Hi guys and gals!

 

Can someone please help me here :)

 

Im going to stock up on rzn tours, but have no idea what to pick, blacks or plats. Im a ProV1x player rather then ProV. Is it natural to go black or as some people in here say that plats are more like V1x? So yeah, what of the 2 is more compareable to V1x.

 

Depends on what year V1/X you are comparing to.

 

The RZN Tour Platinum has a 74 compression and plays a lot like the Chrome (or similar to a B330S) - but better.

 

The RZN Tour Black has a 79 compression and spins less, so take it from there...

Nike's compression ratings are in reference to the core only. Using the ATTI tester (as close to a standard that the industry had during the wound era), both RZN Tour balls were over 100 compression overall. My understanding is that the inner RZN cores (which was actually developed by Dupont and is just an Ionomer resin) are identical with the only differences between balls being the outer polybutadiene core and the urethane cover of which the Platinum was softer on both hence the higher spin result.

To answer the OP, Nike exited hard goods because they weren't making money and balls were no exception. The relatively high margins of a urethane ball are only attractive if you can sell high quantities at full MAP price which all OEMs not named Titleist struggle to do. Fighting for scraps of market share in a shrinking market is not a good business plan.

Hi guys and gals!

 

Can someone please help me here :)

 

Im going to stock up on rzn tours, but have no idea what to pick, blacks or plats. Im a ProV1x player rather then ProV. Is it natural to go black or as some people in here say that plats are more like V1x? So yeah, what of the 2 is more compareable to V1x.

 

Depends on what year V1/X you are comparing to.

 

The RZN Tour Platinum has a 74 compression and plays a lot like the Chrome (or similar to a B330S) - but better.

 

The RZN Tour Black has a 79 compression and spins less, so take it from there...

 

Nike's compression ratings are in reference to the core only. Using the ATTI tester (as close to a standard that the industry had during the wound era), both RZN Tour balls were over 100 compression overall. My understanding is that the inner RZN cores (which was actually developed by Dupont and is just an Ionomer resin) are identical with the only differences between balls being the outer polybutadiene core and the urethane cover of which the Platinum was softer on both hence the higher spin result.

 

To answer the OP, Nike exited hard goods because they weren't making money and balls were no exception. The relatively high margins of a urethane ball are only attractive if you can sell high quantities at full MAP price which all OEMs not named Titleist struggle to do. Fighting for scraps of market share in a shrinking market is not a good business plan.

Damn shame. The Platinums were quite a ball. And everywhere in my town is already sold out, even though there are a ton of red and white (even black) hanging around.

 

Nike's compression ratings are in reference to the core only. Using the ATTI tester (as close to a standard that the industry had during the wound era), both RZN Tour balls were over 100 compression overall. My understanding is that the inner RZN cores (which was actually developed by Dupont and is just an Ionomer resin) are identical with the only differences between balls being the outer polybutadiene core and the urethane cover of which the Platinum was softer on both hence the higher spin result.

 

Never heard anything along those lines about their compression. Having played the B330S and even a round with the Chrome Soft, both of which are in the mid-70's, and they felt similar to the RZN TP with it's "74". Either way, still love the RZN and glad I stocked up.

Nike's compression ratings are in reference to the core only. Using the ATTI tester (as close to a standard that the industry had during the wound era), both RZN Tour balls were over 100 compression overall. My understanding is that the inner RZN cores (which was actually developed by Dupont and is just an Ionomer resin) are identical with the only differences between balls being the outer polybutadiene core and the urethane cover of which the Platinum was softer on both hence the higher spin result.

 

 

Never heard anything along those lines about their compression. Having played the B330S and even a round with the Chrome Soft, both of which are in the mid-70's, and they felt similar to the RZN TP with it's "74". Either way, still love the RZN and glad I stocked up.

Most of the major OEMs list core compression (with exception to Srixon). My guess is to imply that the current solid core, multi-layer urethane offerings are softer than the 90 compression wound balata balls of years past because most people that care to ask about compression are from that era. Ultimately any explicit measurement is useless for cross company comparison unless all models are tested using a consistent method in the same environment (preferably by an independent 3rd party). The big OEMs don't really have much incentive to participate in a cross company comparison with their competitors which is why there are really limited resources for comparing (part of the reason why Wishon's shaft profile software died as well).

This is the best resource independent resource I have seen, but this guy doesn't test all models nor release updates very often.

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1374950-2016-compression-data/