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High end shoes: How long do you keep them in the rotation

RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
I have several pairs of the first and second generation Adida Adipure Leather shoes. ( retail $240)

There's a pair that I've had probably 5-6 seasons, and while the body and sole are still in great shape, but seem to have lost their support this year.

I've tried some insoles, but I think they're done, unfortunately.

By comparrison, My pro SL's only lasted a year or so.

How long would you expect "Good" shoes to last if you play and practice all year round?
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Comments

  • crispy830crispy830 Members Posts: 13
    If well kept, my shoes have always held up pretty well for about 2-3 seasons. Perhaps longer if you don't play often when it's very wet. However, I usually ride and only walk occasionally, so I do think my shoes last longer than somebody who is walking every round.
  • alfridayalfriday Advanced Members Posts: 451 ✭✭
    I take my high end shoes to my cobbler each fall. She takes care of any problems before they develop. A bit of preventative maintenance goes a long way.
  • sthompson42sthompson42 Texas42 Members Posts: 68 ✭✭
    You have a cobbler? I want a cobbler, very cool!



    I can barely find a good tailor.

  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegAdvanced Members Posts: 9,042 ✭✭
    Two years so that's about 100 rounds - mostly walking. After that, they start to look a little ragged and they become my "mudders." I see no reason to make a shoe last longer than that. (wearing Adidas Tour 360 Boosts and Puma Titan Tour Ignite)
    Ping G400 9º TFC 419 Stiff at 45"
    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc
    Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
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  • Carl Spackler3Carl Spackler3 Advanced Members Posts: 892 ✭✭
    I’d say two years
    Titleist 915 D2
    Ping G 3 W
    Ping G 5W
    Ping G25 Hybrid
    Mizuno JPX 900 hot metal 5-GW
    Vokey 52-08 sm4
    Vokey 56-14 sm6
    Odyssey White Hot RX2 ( but it better be careful)
  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegAdvanced Members Posts: 9,042 ✭✭
    RainShadow wrote:


    I have several pairs of the first and second generation Adida Adipure Leather shoes. ( retail $240)

    There's a pair that I've had probably 5-6 seasons, and while the body and sole are still in great shape, but seem to have lost their support this year.

    I've tried some insoles, but I think they're done, unfortunately.

    By comparrison, My pro SL's only lasted a year or so.

    How long would you expect "Good" shoes to last if you play and practice all year round?


    The AdiPure were a great shoe. Quality materials in the 1st generation. But once the support is gone, they are done.



    Pro SL's are good, but I put them in the same vein as all the other lightweight shoes. One year (maybe two if you don't play much) and then they are ready for the garbage. The Pro's love them, but they get new shoes every couple of weeks.
    Ping G400 9º TFC 419 Stiff at 45"
    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc
    Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
    MCC Align Midsize
  • Matt JMatt J Advanced Members Posts: 8,550 ✭✭
    The difference between FJ Icons and Adipure is about the same as your SL's to the Adipure.



    I try and clean them often, take good care of the leather with shine and wax, and they can feasibly last many years even playing twice a week year round.
  • RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
    Socrates wrote:

    RainShadow wrote:


    I have several pairs of the first and second generation Adida Adipure Leather shoes. ( retail $240)

    There's a pair that I've had probably 5-6 seasons, and while the body and sole are still in great shape, but seem to have lost their support this year.

    I've tried some insoles, but I think they're done, unfortunately.

    By comparrison, My pro SL's only lasted a year or so.

    How long would you expect "Good" shoes to last if you play and practice all year round?


    The AdiPure were a great shoe. Quality materials in the 1st generation. But once the support is gone, they are done.



    Pro SL's are good, but I put them in the same vein as all the other lightweight shoes. One year (maybe two if you don't play much) and then they are ready for the garbage. The Pro's love them, but they get new shoes every couple of weeks.


    The adipures are the best, most comfortable golf shoes I ever had. This one pair is done I guess. Still have 3 more thatwerent worn as often.

    The SLs are pretty comfy, but they just don’t last that long. Especially for the price.

    I play at least once a week, usually twice and the range at least once.
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75
    Xhot 4wood Tour Blue 75
    Apex Hybrid 20, 23 & 26 Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s / Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and Mizuno Raw Black OX 58/11
    Bettinardi BB1/ OWorks 2 Ball Red
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Snell MTB Black ( test run)
  • RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
    edited February 22
    Matt J wrote:


    The difference between FJ Icons and Adipure is about the same as your SL's to the Adipure.



    I try and clean them often, take good care of the leather with shine and wax, and they can feasibly last many years even playing twice a week year round.


    I never found the icons that comfortable. Always required a break in period .

    Adipures were awesome right out of the box. I guess I should be happy with 5-6 years outta them.
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75
    Xhot 4wood Tour Blue 75
    Apex Hybrid 20, 23 & 26 Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s / Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and Mizuno Raw Black OX 58/11
    Bettinardi BB1/ OWorks 2 Ball Red
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Snell MTB Black ( test run)
  • Matt JMatt J Advanced Members Posts: 8,550 ✭✭
    edited February 22
    Mine the leather just wasn't that great of quality.



    The Icons may have to be broken in, but they also last.



    Also, you might be a narrow if you like the Adipure, so maybe try an E in Icons.



  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegAdvanced Members Posts: 9,042 ✭✭
    Matt J wrote:


    Mine the leather just wasn't that great of quality.



    The Icons may have to be broken in, but they also last.



    Also, you might be a narrow if you like the Adipure, so maybe try an E in Icons.


    Liked the Icons. Just aren’t a shoe to wear if you are wearing shorts. So my Icons sit in the box 99% of the time.
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    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc
    Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
    MCC Align Midsize
  • WrigglesWriggles Advanced Members Posts: 3,134 ✭✭
    I walk exclusively. Wet, dry, all weather.



    Before shoes really got crappy, I'd usually get two years out of a pair. (Walking a LOT of rounds.) First year, I'd rotate with the previous years pair. Second year, wear another new pair, along with last years. In third year, or late second, the shoes leaked or became uncomfortable. Replaced spikes as necessary.



    Now, shoes are garbage in the first year. I've had "waterproof" shoes leak, within 200 yards of first wear. Golf is now mostly a riding sport. Majority do not walk. Shoes are designed accordingly.



    Note: Dunham Sports stores do not honor any warranty. If you wear the shoes once, they refuse to take them back for any reason.
  • cristphotocristphoto Advanced Members Posts: 3,276
    Currently I rotate 6 pair of Dryjoy Tours and 4 pair of Icon Blacks. I wear the Blacks in drier conditions as they have leather inserts on the soles and leather heels. The Tours are for all-weather conditions. They are all over three years old now and going strong. That said I still have 6 pair of Footjoy Classics Dry that I wear every now and then. Some of them are over 15 years old and still going strong. They just aren't as comfortable as the other 2 models. In their day they were very comfortable but technology has passed them by. I've always purchased my shoes two pair at a time so they could be rotated from day one. Buy a good quality shoe, rotate usage, use proper leather care and place in wooden shoe trees after use and it should be easy to get several years out of them.
  • Togatown22Togatown22 Advanced Members Posts: 2,740 ✭✭
    I have 2 pair of FJ Classics that are about 12 years old; cleaned well and gently after each use and stored with cedar shoe trees. Granted, I only wear them a few times a year, but there's no reason a high quality shoe can't last for a looooooong time. I have a pair of the white/white original Adipure that are still going strong, again, only worn a couple times a year. I have about 25 pair in my rotation, so they all tend to last a fair amount of time; probably 5 years on average. Much longer for the higher quality pairs like G/Fore, Icons, Classics, etc.
    Rogue 10.5 Graphite Design AD TP 6S
    Rogue 15 PX Even Flow Blue S
    816H1 19 Motore Speeder 8.8 S
    718 AP3 4,5 DG AWT Black S
    718 AP2 6-Gap DG AWT Black S
    SM7 54.10M, 58.04L DG TI Onyx S400
    Futura 5.5W
  • Matt JMatt J Advanced Members Posts: 8,550 ✭✭
    All of the higher end shoes built off of dress shoe platform look a little unusual these days with shorts. I stick to the white ones, or at least white with a contrast saddle when I wear shorts. In my mind the brown Adipure didn't click that box either, for me at least. But, I rotate through a few "athletic" shoes for summer shorts weather in addition to my more classic shoes. The athletic shoes, I've been particular to the Nike Tiger Woods line, I don't really expect too much in the way of longevity. About the same as a pair of sneakers, one maybe two seasons. But, I am like Wriggles and walk 90% or more of my rounds.
  • Togatown22Togatown22 Advanced Members Posts: 2,740 ✭✭
    I agree with you Matt, my golf shoes built on a more athletic/running shoe model don't last as long. My Pumas (Pwradapt) / Nike's (Lunar Control Vapor and Vapor 2's) / FJ (DNA's and Pro SL) I only hope to get a couple of seasons out of before they just seem worn out and tired, no matter how much you clean them up and take care of them. I've had good luck with Adidas though: Tour360 boosts and even the crossknit boosts seem to wear quite well and last a bit longer.
    Rogue 10.5 Graphite Design AD TP 6S
    Rogue 15 PX Even Flow Blue S
    816H1 19 Motore Speeder 8.8 S
    718 AP3 4,5 DG AWT Black S
    718 AP2 6-Gap DG AWT Black S
    SM7 54.10M, 58.04L DG TI Onyx S400
    Futura 5.5W
  • Matt JMatt J Advanced Members Posts: 8,550 ✭✭
    Togatown22 wrote:


    I agree with you Matt, my golf shoes built on a more athletic/running shoe model don't last as long. My Pumas (Pwradapt) / Nike's (Lunar Control Vapor and Vapor 2's) / FJ (DNA's and Pro SL) I only hope to get a couple of seasons out of before they just seem worn out and tired, no matter how much you clean them up and take care of them. I've had good luck with Adidas though: Tour360 boosts and even the crossknit boosts seem to wear quite well and last a bit longer.




    I just struck a deal with the boss of the household that if I take 4 pairs of old golf shoes to Goodwill then I can buy 1 pair of "athletic" golf shoes for my upcoming travels. I'm one **** of a negotiator. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • FlyingLaw1FlyingLaw1 Advanced Members Posts: 707 ✭✭
    Interesting topic. I've got high end dress shoes that are going on 10 years old and still kicking (no pun intended). Obviously golf shoes endure much more harsh use. For quite a while I wore nothing but Icons and would usually get 2ish seasons out of them. I always used shoe trees and treated them with leather conditioner every could of rounds. Considering the amount of golf I was playing in those days (I'd also teach in them) I always felt i was more than getting my moneys worth.



    About 5-6 years ago I switched to the modern sneaker/comfort type golf shoe and was never impressed with how long they lasted. Most of the time I was buying two pair of the same shoe as I'd burn through two a season. Last year early in the season I bought a pair of sketchers and they were the worst pair of shoes (golf or other wise) I have ever owned. About a month into ownership one of the seams started to rip apart. Sketchers owned it and sent me a new pair but I donated them to a local junior golf program. Immediately bought a pair of G/Fore Galivators. They're amazing. Wore them about half of last season and they still look almost new. No reason I shouldn't be able to play this season and well into next with them.
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  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegAdvanced Members Posts: 9,042 ✭✭
    cristphoto wrote:


    Currently I rotate 6 pair of Dryjoy Tours and 4 pair of Icon Blacks. I wear the Blacks in drier conditions as they have leather inserts on the soles and leather heels. The Tours are for all-weather conditions. They are all over three years old now and going strong. That said I still have 6 pair of Footjoy Classics Dry that I wear every now and then. Some of them are over 15 years old and still going strong. They just aren't as comfortable as the other 2 models. In their day they were very comfortable but technology has passed them by. I've always purchased my shoes two pair at a time so they could be rotated from day one. Buy a good quality shoe, rotate usage, use proper leather care and place in wooden shoe trees after use and it should be easy to get several years out of them.

    Togatown22 wrote:


    I have 2 pair of FJ Classics that are about 12 years old; cleaned well and gently after each use and stored with cedar shoe trees. Granted, I only wear them a few times a year, but there's no reason a high quality shoe can't last for a looooooong time. I have a pair of the white/white original Adipure that are still going strong, again, only worn a couple times a year. I have about 25 pair in my rotation, so they all tend to last a fair amount of time; probably 5 years on average. Much longer for the higher quality pairs like G/Fore, Icons, Classics, etc.


    10 pairs. 25 pairs. I think my spouse would have fit if I had that many pairs of golf shoes. They must feel neglected sitting in the closet for months at a time waiting for their turn. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Ping G400 9º TFC 419 Stiff at 45"
    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc
    Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
    MCC Align Midsize
  • Togatown22Togatown22 Advanced Members Posts: 2,740 ✭✭
    ^ They are all friends; they enjoy the downtime!
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    Rogue 15 PX Even Flow Blue S
    816H1 19 Motore Speeder 8.8 S
    718 AP3 4,5 DG AWT Black S
    718 AP2 6-Gap DG AWT Black S
    SM7 54.10M, 58.04L DG TI Onyx S400
    Futura 5.5W
  • DavidvDavidv Advanced Members Posts: 651 ✭✭
    2 years or less if I get tired of looking at them. Realistically new shoe styles each year means new shoes each year. Not exactly a big expenditure.
  • RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
    Davidv wrote:


    2 years or less if I get tired of looking at them. Realistically new shoe styles each year means new shoes each year. Not exactly a big expenditure.


    $200 + is a big expenditure for some....especially for something that doesn’t last.....
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75
    Xhot 4wood Tour Blue 75
    Apex Hybrid 20, 23 & 26 Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s / Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and Mizuno Raw Black OX 58/11
    Bettinardi BB1/ OWorks 2 Ball Red
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Snell MTB Black ( test run)
  • JRJ70JRJ70 Advanced Members Posts: 593 ✭✭
    I walk 95% of my rounds and I am lucky if they last a couple short North Dakota seasons.
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    Titleist 818H1 21* Kuro Kage 80
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  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegAdvanced Members Posts: 9,042 ✭✭
    RainShadow wrote:

    Davidv wrote:


    2 years or less if I get tired of looking at them. Realistically new shoe styles each year means new shoes each year. Not exactly a big expenditure.


    $200 + is a big expenditure for some....especially for something that doesn’t last.....


    That's for sure. Just ask Robert Kraft.
    Ping G400 9º TFC 419 Stiff at 45"
    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc
    Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
    MCC Align Midsize
  • RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
    Socrates wrote:

    RainShadow wrote:

    Davidv wrote:


    2 years or less if I get tired of looking at them. Realistically new shoe styles each year means new shoes each year. Not exactly a big expenditure.


    $200 + is a big expenditure for some....especially for something that doesn’t last.....


    That's for sure. Just ask Robert Kraft.


    LOL...he can afford it...
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75
    Xhot 4wood Tour Blue 75
    Apex Hybrid 20, 23 & 26 Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s / Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and Mizuno Raw Black OX 58/11
    Bettinardi BB1/ OWorks 2 Ball Red
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Snell MTB Black ( test run)
  • hdgolf44hdgolf44 Advanced Members Posts: 337
    One idea...cedar shoe trees. if you're spending money on high end shoes, then shelling out for some of these would be well worth your while. My brother in law has still has some late 60's FJ Classics that are in terrific condition. He keeps them in cedar shoe trees; they pull out extra moisture. He also cleans/polishes them on the regular. Basically, treating them like an expensive pair of dress shoes.



    Second idea, rotate your pairs. Don't play two days or rounds consecutively with the same pairs. Clean them and allow to dry completely before gaming them again. Also, based on my experience, I would strongly suggest to designate a "range-only" if you can. Think about it, you're subjecting the shoes to full-swing forces from 60 to 120 times. For an average player, that could be about 3-rounds' worth of wear in one practice session, without any walking in between
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  • RainShadowRainShadow Advanced Members Posts: 3,525
    hdgolf44 wrote:


    One idea...cedar shoe trees. if you're spending money on high end shoes, then shelling out for some of these would be well worth your while. My brother in law has still has some late 60's FJ Classics that are in terrific condition. He keeps them in cedar shoe trees; they pull out extra moisture. He also cleans/polishes them on the regular. Basically, treating them like an expensive pair of dress shoes.



    Second idea, rotate your pairs. Don't play two days or rounds consecutively with the same pairs. Clean them and allow to dry completely before gaming them again. Also, based on my experience, I would strongly suggest to designate a "range-only" if you can. Think about it, you're subjecting the shoes to full-swing forces from 60 to 120 times. For an average player, that could be about 3-rounds' worth of wear in one practice session, without any walking in between


    Yeah, already been using cedar shoe trees for years.

    And I do rotate my shoes, although I must say I don't have a designated range pair.

    I have 4 pair of the original Adipure leather, but one is about done ( white with brown stripes) since I really wore those the most. I have black/white stripes, tobacco/white stripes and Caramel (reddish Brown) that I've only worn on course a few times since they're so nice and don't really go with shorts or muddy days.

    Just from the feedback in this thread, it seems the expected lifespan is 2-3 years if you play year around and take care of them properly. Some may get a year or 2 more if they are able to rotate more pairs.

    It seems that good leather shoes used to last longer than they do these days, at least the support. My white/brown Adipures look pretty good, it's just that my feet are sore at the end go the round walking now and they did used to be.
    Ping G400 10.5 Hzrdus Yellow 75
    Xhot 4wood Tour Blue 75
    Apex Hybrid 20, 23 & 26 Kuro Kage
    Srixon Z765 6-GW Modus 105s / Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW Modus 105s
    MackDaddy4 Black 54 S and Mizuno Raw Black OX 58/11
    Bettinardi BB1/ OWorks 2 Ball Red
    Chrome Soft / TP5/ Snell MTB Black ( test run)
  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Advanced Members Posts: 4,680 ✭✭
    I never do anything other than walk and usually get over 100 rounds a year without little issue - I would say it's fair to say that I get about 5 years out of a top end shoe. To be fair, I have have had a minimum of 4 pairs on the go at any one time and I am sitting at 7 pairs at the moment although after this winter season the oldest pair of those will be done.
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  • backhillbackhill Members Posts: 55 ✭✭
    I walk about 40 rounds a year, ride another 15-20. I have the Nike Vapor II's, Roshes and an old pair of Lunar Control 4's that may already be toast. Rotate 2-3 pairs each year and they last me 2-3 years. If I were to use one pair exclusively, they'd last me the season and maybe 3 months into the following season if I put in new spikes.
  • payerasjlpayerasjl Advanced Members Posts: 708 ✭✭
    I have plenty of golf shoes that are almost 10 years. Youd be surprised what shoe trees and a simple coat or 2 of oil/cream/treatment per year and NOT keeping them in your trunk can do
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  • parpar41parpar41 Advanced Members Posts: 1,218
    I play about 50+ games, walking, in our short Canadian season.



    Ecco leather golf shoes seem to last indefinitely if: you use cedar shoe trees; polish the leather from time to time and replace the soft spikes as needed.



    Ecco "spikeless" golf shoes are comfortable and look good, but really don't last more than one short season.
  • backhillbackhill Members Posts: 55 ✭✭
    payerasjl wrote:


    I have plenty of golf shoes that are almost 10 years. Youd be surprised what shoe trees and a simple coat or 2 of oil/cream/treatment per year and NOT keeping them in your trunk can do




    To go even deeper, let them rest 45-60 minutes prior to putting shoe trees in and ensure you don't wear the same shoes back to back days if you can avoid it so they dry out properly and rest. I do this with all of my dress shoes for the office.
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