Project X 6.5 in wedges

I play Project X 6.5 in my T100 irons 4-PW. Have been playing S400 in my 50, 54, and 58 deg SM7 wedges (had DG X7 in irons previously so wedges were S400) but wanting to move to PX in my wedges when ordering SM8. Problem has been the weight issue with PX when going softer in flex the 6.0 is 120 g (vs 6.5 at 125 g) and that's just too light for wedges for me. Going up in weight I feel the 7.0 would just be brutal in wedges, even if soft stepped. I was thinking about going into PX 6.5 soft stepped 1x in my 54 and 58 degree and keeping 50 deg 6.5 straight in. Saw an old thread with HJ talking about this bringing the FCM down to 6.6 so softens it close to the 6.0 which is FCM 6.5 but weight staying closer 125g (maybe 1-2 g lighter going ss). Feel they will be a little lighter than my irons but the increase in swing weight in the vokey 54 and 58 deg wedge I'd think would make up for that feel. More than likely going to give it a go with SM8 when I order them but just wondering if anyone has tried this and how they thought they performed? Or what other shafts do you like in your wedges when you play PX 6.5 in your irons?

Three options. 1) Play PX 6.5 the whole way through. Gives you consistency in weight a flex. IMO...soft stepping 1x doesn't do much. 2) PX 6.0 for a lighter flex and more feel. Yes, it's.a lighter weight, but Titleist can swing weight this to spec. You can find pros playing a lighter wedge shaft too. DJ, Spieth, etc. 3) PX 7.0 8 iron shaft. Essentially soft step 2x. This is how a spinner/hi rev shaft is "made". 8 iron shaft from the next flex up. Softer flex plus slight increase in weight.

What did you swing weight your wedges with PX 6.0 and what are your iron swing weights with PX 6.5? Do they feel that much lighter? I've just played DG 130+g shafts in my wedges so going down to 120 g feels weird because it's so light. But my iron shafts were also 130 g that I've used in the past with c-taper 130x and 132g DG X7. So going lighter now with PX 6.5 might not feel as different using PX 6.0 in wedges. I would do the 7.0 8 iron shaft but I can't order that through Titleist going through where I order online. I have a soft step option and that's it.

I totally agree with CW here, like you I too play the 6.5 in my iBlades, love them, I've tried different shafts in the wedges, but the 6.5 feel consistent, I am used to the weight and I just enjoy the ball flight, I am a high spin player, so the 6.5 and the C-Tapers 130x have given me the best results, do some testing yourself by getting one or two shafts from the Bay and put them in the wedges to find out feel and performance, I like consistency so I kept 6.5 all the way through, they work for me, good luck

D2 4-9, D3 in my PW and 50, and D4 in 55 and 60. Standard swing weighting. Wedges don't feel lighter or heavier than my set PW...because they are the same total weight (or close to it). Each club in your bag has a progressively heavier total weight as you go shorter in length. Even if everything was D2 in your bag, your 9 iron will weigh more than your 8 iron. So going with a lighter wedge shaft isn't going to make your wedges lighter than your set PW. If you cut 1/2 inch off the shaft, you need 3 sw points/6 grams to get the SW back to where it was. Most wedges swing weight heavier too. Often you are adding 3-6 grams to the head for the shorter shaft + 2-4 grams for the heavier SW. All that being said, if your GW is 1/4 shorter than than your PW (+3 grams) and one SW point heavier (+2 grams) with a lighter shaft (-5 grams) = no change in total club weight.

Even though I have just argued that the shaft weight change is no big deal, I think there is a good argument for going lighter (shaft weight, swing weight, total weight, whatever) for wedges that you are only using for partial swings and touch shots. Less heft for more finesse. Bubba Watson has D5 SW for 52 and 56, and D0 for his 60.

If you still want to go heavy. Modus 125 wedge shaft is so good.

On 2/26/2020 at 11:14 PM, HappyGilmore22 said:

What did you swing weight your wedges with PX 6.0 and what are your iron swing weights with PX 6.5? Do they feel that much lighter? I've just played DG 130+g shafts in my wedges so going down to 120 g feels weird because it's so light. But my iron shafts were also 130 g that I've used in the past with c-taper 130x and 132g DG X7. So going lighter now with PX 6.5 might not feel as different using PX 6.0 in wedges. I would do the 7.0 8 iron shaft but I can't order that through Titleist going through where I order online. I have a soft step option and that's it.

Hate to bring up an old thread but with the introduction of the Project X wedge specific shafts, I figured I would put in my two cents. 

I play 6.5s in my irons and I've been having a hard time finding wedge shafts I can get along with. I originally tried S400s but just cannot get along with the feel of dynamic gold. Played 6.0s for a while and loved the feel but the difference in weight made it hard for full shots. Currently playing 6.5s SSX1 (9 iron shafts) and they play very different than 6.0s. Love them for full shots but just not a ton of feel around the greens. I'm going to try them for a couple more weeks. I'm really interested in moving to the Project X wedge specific versions but the cost is very high at the moment. Can anyone attest to the difference between normal 6.5 wedge shafts and the 6.5 wedge specific version?

Finally made the switch to the Project X 6.5 Wedge specific shaft and they are night and day different than stock 6.5 shafts. Play much much softer, more like an S400. Really enjoying them around the greens but going to take some getting used to for full and partial swings. 

Just for reference, I tried 6.0 wedge shafts, 6.5 8 iron shafts, and 6.5 9 irons shafts. The wedge specific shafts are the best option available and you won't be disappointed. 

3 hours ago, mjhuffer said:

Finally made the switch to the Project X 6.5 Wedge specific shaft and they are night and day different than stock 6.5 shafts. Play much much softer, more like an S400. Really enjoying them around the greens but going to take some getting used to for full and partial swings. 

 

Just for reference, I tried 6.0 wedge shafts, 6.5 8 iron shafts, and 6.5 9 irons shafts. The wedge specific shafts are the best option available and you won't be disappointed. 

Are you finding them too soft? I just installed a set of 6.5 wedge specific as well but haven't had a chance to hit them yet.

On 2/27/2020 at 3:23 AM, HappyGilmore22 said:

I play Project X 6.5 in my T100 irons 4-PW. Have been playing S400 in my 50, 54, and 58 deg SM7 wedges (had DG X7 in irons previously so wedges were S400) but wanting to move to PX in my wedges when ordering SM8. Problem has been the weight issue with PX when going softer in flex the 6.0 is 120 g (vs 6.5 at 125 g) and that's just too light for wedges for me. Going up in weight I feel the 7.0 would just be brutal in wedges, even if soft stepped. I was thinking about going into PX 6.5 soft stepped 1x in my 54 and 58 degree and keeping 50 deg 6.5 straight in. Saw an old thread with HJ talking about this bringing the FCM down to 6.6 so softens it close to the 6.0 which is FCM 6.5 but weight staying closer 125g (maybe 1-2 g lighter going ss). Feel they will be a little lighter than my irons but the increase in swing weight in the vokey 54 and 58 deg wedge I'd think would make up for that feel. More than likely going to give it a go with SM8 when I order them but just wondering if anyone has tried this and how they thought they performed? Or what other shafts do you like in your wedges when you play PX 6.5 in your irons?

Dont forget that we go descending wgt into wedges, and from PW to LOB we loose about 4 grams of shaft wgt, so if you used a 7.0, it will not have much more weight than irons when you get to the LOB wedge.

I DONT like the classic set up with softer wedges before we get to partial clubs, i prefer full flex progression all thye way to the last club played to full swing, to keep ball flight DOWN and spin UP.
When we soft stepp we add launch and loose spin in wedges.

Wedges is like you say, played with higher SW values than irons = softer for that reason alone, so depending on how those wedges is played, i would have used 7.0 PW shaft for GW, SW and LW

Going 7.0 PW is only "1 shaft stronger", so a 7.0 PW is the same as the "6.5 GW" we cant buy.

If you want softer, consider 7.0 #9 shafts.'
They will have a flex like 6.5 PW, but since we start with 5 grams higher shaft wgt, we ends up with a weight more or less equal to 6.5 irons. (1.7 grams from SS1, the rest will be gone as butt trim)
This way you avoid the weight loss we get if we use 6.5 PW shafts, if WEIGHT is the main point here

you got to it before I could.  

@Howard_Jones im  bored and got some Nippon NS Pro Modus3 120 TX shafts, any idea on their tip length?, simular to DG's?  curious if I can go more than 3/8" tip trim

27 minutes ago, FirePro said:

you got to it before I could.  

 

@Howard_Jones im  bored and got some Nippon NS Pro Modus3 120 TX shafts, any idea on their tip length?, simular to DG's?  curious if I can go more than 3/8" tip trim

If you ask about how long the taper is?, its most likely 6/8" since thats the BORE used on hosels, but take a caliper and measure OD on the tip on the spot you would like to cut them. Here is how we expect it to be, and there should be room for a shaft thats 0.362 at the tip. The only heads that might not accept that as far as i can recall is Miura (silly tight).

On 5/19/2023 at 10:30 AM, RobDMB said:

Are you finding them too soft? I just installed a set of 6.5 wedge specific as well but haven't had a chance to hit them yet.

They do play soft but I hit them next to S400s and they were very similar feeling. I’m really enjoying them but to each their own.

I've had a set of 7.0's in wedges and now 6.5's.  I left the 7.0 in my lob and went to a 6.5 in my 50 and 54 just to keep the feel the same as my iron set. 

8 hours ago, Phabs said:

I've had a set of 7.0's in wedges and now 6.5's.  I left the 7.0 in my lob and went to a 6.5 in my 50 and 54 just to keep the feel the same as my iron set. 

Your signature say 6.5 in irons, so that means you have 6.5 both in irons and wedges?
What 7.0 shafts did you try for wedge? was it the PW shaft

4 hours ago, Howard_Jones said:

Your signature say 6.5 in irons, so that means you have 6.5 both in irons and wedges?
What 7.0 shafts did you try for wedge? was it the PW shaft

Yes 6.5’s in irons and gap/sand now

My lob has a 7.0 9 iron shaft if I remember right. 

On 5/22/2023 at 7:48 PM, Phabs said:

I've had a set of 7.0's in wedges and now 6.5's.  I left the 7.0 in my lob and went to a 6.5 in my 50 and 54 just to keep the feel the same as my iron set. 

Your feel was spot on because the px wedge shaft IS an S400 with the steps removed. It is the same exact shaft - source is the guy who designed the shaft lol.

1 minute ago, BobbyBuckets1986 said:

Your feel was spot on because the px wedge shaft IS an S400 with the steps removed. It is the same exact shaft - source is the guy who designed the shaft lol.

Hands of gold baby. 🤣

On 1/13/2024 at 3:59 PM, BobbyBuckets1986 said:

Your feel was spot on because the px wedge shaft IS an S400 with the steps removed. It is the same exact shaft - source is the guy who designed the shaft lol.

can you elaborate? which wedge shaft is an "s400 with steps removed": the 6.0? 6.5? 7.0? how do you explain the weight difference? (s400 TI is 132g)

@NewDecadeMultiCompound read page 3 Of Project X wedge shaft is FIRE post

25 minutes ago, K48 said:

@NewDecadeMultiCompound read page 3 Of Project X wedge shaft is FIRE post

 

I don't think that was determined yet in that thread (which PX Wedge flex/weight matches to DGS400 specifically).

@NewDecadeMultiCompound I played the 6.5 Wedge model in a 52 and 58 early last year alongside a full set of 6.5 in irons. The 6.5 Wedge worked well for me in the 58 but felt too soft in the 52 with 3/4 or more swings. 

2 hours ago, PNW said:

I don't think that was determined yet in that thread (which PX Wedge flex/weight matches to DGS400 specifically).

 

@NewDecadeMultiCompound I played the 6.5 Wedge model in a 52 and 58 early last year alongside a full set of 6.5 in irons. The 6.5 Wedge worked well for me in the 58 but felt too soft in the 52 with 3/4 or more swings. 

 Yes, that's my concern. I have 6.5 in 4-pw and decided to throw the same shaft in my 50 as well. however the 50 is a wedge, so naturally heavier than the irons/pw, and it feels a little heavier to swing. i was thinking about maybe trying the 6.5wedge but am concerned about it being too soft, like you mentioned. what did you decide on? I have s400TI in my 60, as I never take full swings with it, and will decide what to put in my 54 once I have the 50 sorted out

23 hours ago, NewDecadeMultiCompound said:

 Yes, that's my concern. I have 6.5 in 4-pw and decided to throw the same shaft in my 50 as well. however the 50 is a wedge, so naturally heavier than the irons/pw, and it feels a little heavier to swing. i was thinking about maybe trying the 6.5wedge but am concerned about it being too soft, like you mentioned. what did you decide on? I have s400TI in my 60, as I never take full swings with it, and will decide what to put in my 54 once I have the 50 sorted out

TBH I’m trying to figure that out for myself right now. Have Modus 125 Wedge model but haven’t had much time with them yet. 
 

If I were still in PX 6.5 I’d probably go standard 6.5 8 or 9 iron shaft in my 52 then the 6.5 Wedge model in my 58

On 5/19/2023 at 6:28 AM, mjhuffer said:

Finally made the switch to the Project X 6.5 Wedge specific shaft and they are night and day different than stock 6.5 shafts. Play much much softer, more like an S400. Really enjoying them around the greens but going to take some getting used to for full and partial swings. 

 

Just for reference, I tried 6.0 wedge shafts, 6.5 8 iron shafts, and 6.5 9 irons shafts. The wedge specific shafts are the best option available and you won't be disappointed. 

I play 6.0 Project X in my irons at 3/4" over standard length.  Would you recommend 6.0 or 6.5 wedge shaft in my Cleveland CBX4 54° and 60°?

15 hours ago, MrVanillaGorilla said:

I play 6.0 Project X in my irons at 3/4" over standard length.  Would you recommend 6.0 or 6.5 wedge shaft in my Cleveland CBX4 54° and 60°?

It all depends. I believe True Temper designed the wedge specific shafts to flow seamlessly with your irons using the same flex profile. That being said, the wedge specific shafts do play softer. I play the 6.5s 0.5" over length in my 4-P and the transitions to the 6.5 wedge shafts (also playing 0.5in over length) has been perfect for me. Very stable with long shots but soft enough tip for feel shots around the green. I also like playing wedges close to the same weight as my iron shafts. Some people prefer heavier shafts in their wedges for more "feel". 

My suggestion would be try the 6.0s first and if they play too soft, you can always go up to the 6.5s. It just really sucks I don't see these shafts a lot of places for testing.

17 minutes ago, mjhuffer said:

It all depends. I believe True Temper designed the wedge specific shafts to flow seamlessly with your irons using the same flex profile. That being said, the wedge specific shafts do play softer. I play the 6.5s 0.5" over length in my 4-P and the transitions to the 6.5 wedge shafts (also playing 0.5in over length) has been perfect for me. Very stable with long shots but soft enough tip for feel shots around the green. I also like playing wedges close to the same weight as my iron shafts. Some people prefer heavier shafts in their wedges for more "feel". 

 

My suggestion would be try the 6.0s first and if they play too soft, you can always go up to the 6.5s. It just really sucks I don't see these shafts a lot of places for testing.

Thank you.  Do you believe there is much difference between the normal project X iron shaft compared to the Wedge shaft?

31 minutes ago, zrheisler22 said:

 

 

18 hours ago, MrVanillaGorilla said:

Thank you.  Do you believe there is much difference between the normal project X iron shaft compared to the Wedge shaft?

I know you're not askin' me but I'll chime in with a "no".  Have them both and I do not notice too much of a difference in real life.  Haven't played with them too much on a sim, so maybe there is some difference there but wedge shots to me are about feel and distance control, and I just haven't noticed a difference there.  YMMV 

On 3/5/2024 at 10:37 AM, MrVanillaGorilla said:

Thank you.  Do you believe there is much difference between the normal project X iron shaft compared to the Wedge shaft?

I think True Temper stated that the Wedge model is 10 CPMs softer than the same labeled flex iron shaft. I played them both for a few months last year and found this to be accurate. The Wedge model worked well for me in my 58 but was terrible in my 52 (more full swings), too soft.