Tp5 from Project (a) ?

MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
My daiughter has spent e last 2 years playing the Project(a) ball - 70 compression, great spin on wedges, etc

But

Swingspeed has moved from below 80 mph to over it now - approaching 85 on driver this Spring



Looking for views on moving to the TP5 ball (83 compression)

More effectively translate the driver distance, while 'feeling' similar on irons, wedge, putter....



she would like to stick with Taylormade

But I think 2017 proV or Chrome Soft (X) might also fit the bill?



Really looking for some guidance

Particularly with the change to TP5



Much appreciated



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  • MdmspopMdmspop This is the year... Members Posts: 329 ✭✭
    Honestly, I don't think it's a big enough change in swing speed to make a significant difference.
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mdmspop wrote:


    Honestly, I don't think it's a big enough change in swing speed to make a significant difference.
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  • dmb3535dmb3535 Members Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭
    I have a swing speed in 80's due to shoulder surgeries and picked up a sleeve of tp5 and tp5x and I have found the tpx to be the longest ball I have played, right behind the tp5. Also, let me state that I am not a taylormade fan when it comes to balls and usually play a pro v or even a 2 piece ball due to slow swing speed. I honestly did not want to like the tp5s, but the are SO good
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mdmspop wrote:


    Honestly, I don't think it's a big enough change in swing speed to make a significant difference.


    Sorry....

    She started using the pjt (a) at 65 mph and last year through 75 plus

    Now that she is around 85, thinking it is time for a change that will carry here through 90 mph

    Looking for some advice

    Thank you
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dmb3535 wrote:


    I have a swing speed in 80's due to shoulder surgeries and picked up a sleeve of tp5 and tp5x and I have found the tpx to be the longest ball I have played, right behind the tp5. Also, let me state that I am not a taylormade fan when it comes to balls and usually play a pro v or even a 2 piece ball due to slow swing speed. I honestly did not want to like the tp5s, but the are SO good


    Great - thank you

    Did you find the tp5 softer and more manageable on approach shots / putting though?

    Or

    Did coming from a pro v or 2 piece make you more comfortable with hardness?

    Appreciated

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  • alexdubalexdub Face sends it, path bends it UtahMembers Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I just don't see her swing speed making much of a difference. But I don't see swing speed making much of a difference for any of us, either. It's not as though a ball will "activate" new performance characteristics when you change from 85mph to 95mph.



    If it was my daughter, I would go to Play It Again Sports and buy a dozen mixed brand balls in mint condition. Maybe some ProV, CS, CSx, TPx, TP, ZStar, ZStar XV, Supersoft, Project A, RZN Plat, Q Star, etc. Have her spend some time at the putting green and see which balls she likes the feel of. If she can't tell much of a difference, then maybe it's not worth putting a bunch more time into and just keep her playing the ProjectA.
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  • PixlPutterman PixlPutterman Look At My Lefty J33R(hey I can wish) Members Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I play the Project A at 112mph and they work just fine for me.I wouldnt say she is losing anything
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  • MukkyMukky Members Posts: 366 ✭✭


    I play the Project A at 112mph and they work just fine for me.I wouldnt say she is losing anything




    This. I switch up between srixon xv's, Bridgestone b330-s, and project (a)'s with a swing speed of 105 and have no troubles with any of them. I'm not sure why you would be considering for an "X" version of a ball for a swing speed of 85
  • leegee38leegee38 Members Posts: 83 ✭✭✭
    My daughter liked using the Bridgestone family and being able to switch between B330RXS, B330RX, and B330S depending on what course she was playing. As a father, you already know the answer though, don't you? Whichever one she LIKES the best will be the best ball for her. :-)
  • ctay61983ctay61983 Members Posts: 125 ✭✭
    I can tell you the experience my wife had with the TP5 - Her SS is right around the 80-85 mark as well.



    I've never seen her hit the ball as far as she did off the tee. And I don't mean maybe... It was immediately noticeable. 10-15 yards. She was using Volvik Vivid before.



    Good thing I prefer the TP5x because I'm not getting them back lol.
  • Srixon-IanSrixon-Ian Members Posts: 678 ✭✭
    Buy a dozen TP5 to use for yourself and give her a sleeve. She will let you know if she likes them. Although the Project A will more than likely be fine for as long as she plays golf. I would avoid the CS X though, that a lot of people are saying feels too hard.



    FWIW, my younger sister plays Varsity golf, she likes the Callaway SR1, so I stocked up for her when RBG had them in the ammo boxes. It helps her to know she has a ton of the same ball that will last her through next season. One less thing to worry about, all she needs to think about is improving her game.
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ctay61983 wrote:


    I can tell you the experience my wife had with the TP5 - Her SS is right around the 80-85 mark as well.



    I've never seen her hit the ball as far as she did off the tee. And I don't mean maybe... It was immediately noticeable. 10-15 yards. She was using Volvik Vivid before.



    Good thing I prefer the TP5x because I'm not getting them back lol.


    Great feedback

    Appreciated



    I was simply trying to determine if switching from a 70 compression to a 83 (tp5) or 90 ('17proV1) would be a good competitive call for her

    Project (a) has been great

    Just looking for some advice, experience and that elusive edge we all seek



    Thanks

    Any other views or observations welcome please



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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morry wrote:

    ctay61983 wrote:


    I can tell you the experience my wife had with the TP5 - Her SS is right around the 80-85 mark as well.



    I've never seen her hit the ball as far as she did off the tee. And I don't mean maybe... It was immediately noticeable. 10-15 yards. She was using Volvik Vivid before.



    Good thing I prefer the TP5x because I'm not getting them back lol.


    Great feedback

    Appreciated



    I was simply trying to determine if switching from a 70 compression to a 83 (tp5) or 90 ('17proV1) would be a good competitive call for her

    Project (a) has been great

    Just looking for some advice, experience and that elusive edge we all seek



    Thanks

    Any other views or observations welcome please


    Lots of data and views out here

    Seeking views and takes

    Please

    Thanks

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    Srixon U65 18* - EvenFlow Blue 85 6.0
    Taylormade 760 4-P - Modus 105-X
    Cleveland RTX-4 52, 56, 62 - Modus wedge 115,115,125
    Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works - Stability Shaft 
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any project (a) users out there with a take?

    Thank you

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    Cleveland RTX-4 52, 56, 62 - Modus wedge 115,115,125
    Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works - Stability Shaft 
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morry wrote:


    Any project (a) users out there with a take?

    Thank you


    Still looking for views and takes on this

    really appreciated
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    Cleveland RTX-4 52, 56, 62 - Modus wedge 115,115,125
    Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works - Stability Shaft 
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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole Members Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I play the Project a. It's a very good ball that, if she likes before the swing speed increase, I would think would be a keeper.

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  • hammergolfhammergolf St. LouisMembers Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
    I have played both Project A and the TP5. These balls are VERY similar in feel. the TP5 might be a touch firmer with less long game spin but more short game spin. I know it's old hat, but get a sleeve of both and have her them and see which she prefers.
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hammergolf wrote:


    I have played both Project A and the TP5. These balls are VERY similar in feel. the TP5 might be a touch firmer with less long game spin but more short game spin. I know it's old hat, but get a sleeve of both and have her them and see which she prefers.


    This is exactly what I had hoped to hear

    much appreciated

    looking for all that plus thinking better wind management with the tp5

    Thank You
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  • overparfornowoverparfornow Pingman55 Members Posts: 124
    I agree with buying different balls and let her try them for herself. Of course, for myself, the highest compression I can still compress gives me the most distance if that is her only thoughts. And living in the NC mountains temperature effects that a lot. I would bet she would love the Bridgestone B-330 RX if she tried it. The difference in the Project A and the new tp5 is not very noticeable for me. Project A less spin and a little less distance.
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I agree with buying different balls and let her try them for herself. Of course, for myself, the highest compression I can still compress gives me the most distance if that is her only thoughts. And living in the NC mountains temperature effects that a lot. I would bet she would love the Bridgestone B-330 RX if she tried it. The difference in the Project A and the new tp5 is not very noticeable for me. Project A less spin and a little less distance.


    excellent feedback and concur. appreciate the rx suggestion - will test as well

    cheers



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  • duffer18duffer18 Members Posts: 359 ✭✭✭✭
    I switched to the Project (a) last year and liked it a lot. I'm an old guy with a 93-95 driver speed. This year, on the advice of my golf instructor, I picked up a box of the tp5s. I live in the Boston area so no outside golf yet here (and it's snowing hard here so we can celebrate April Fool's Day properly). But I did have a trip to Arizona. For me, the tp5s gave me noticeably more length. I didn't notice much difference in the short game, but since I haven't played much, my short game was a mess and it's hard to compare balls. I just found that when I hit the tp5 well, compared to hitting the Project (a) and a couple of other balls I tried, the tp5 just went further, with no difference in dispersion. I'm not sure I'll bother using the tp5 when I'm playing at my local muni 9, but I'll certainly be using if often this summer.
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    duffer18 wrote:


    I switched to the Project (a) last year and liked it a lot. I'm an old guy with a 93-95 driver speed. This year, on the advice of my golf instructor, I picked up a box of the tp5s. I live in the Boston area so no outside golf yet here (and it's snowing hard here so we can celebrate April Fool's Day properly). But I did have a trip to Arizona. For me, the tp5s gave me noticeably more length. I didn't notice much difference in the short game, but since I haven't played much, my short game was a mess and it's hard to compare balls. I just found that when I hit the tp5 well, compared to hitting the Project (a) and a couple of other balls I tried, the tp5 just went further, with no difference in dispersion. I'm not sure I'll bother using the tp5 when I'm playing at my local muni 9, but I'll certainly be using if often this summer.


    Exactly the feedback i was looking for

    much appreciated

    let me know how it goes if get out again

    thank you
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,768 ClubWRX
    It really sounds like you've predetermined the answer. Everyone who lauds the new ball gets a appreciative response. But the people who say they are playing the ball with speeds in excess of 100 mph are ignored. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but just how it appears to me.



    FWIW. I'm in that 105-108 range and love the Project a.



    Regardless of all that, best of luck finding the best ball for your daughter, has to be fun to get to be involved with trying to help her game.
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  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Totally appreciate your comments and you are not totally off, but

    All i have determined is that i should test the tp5 against the project(a) for the reasons i was hoping - length off driver and irons, better wind management, equivalent (or maybe better) spin off wedges / around green and similar soft feel putting

    At her stage of development and competition, 5 or 10 more yards is golden for being able to hit greens and score - you know what i mean

    Project (a) is an unreal ball and she loves it so much, all i can maybe sneak in there is another TM ball ...hence the other reason to wonder if the tp5 can help at the margin

    thank you

    it is a ton of fun

    cheers
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  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FLMembers Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    TP5x launches and flies higher than most premium tour level balls. Higher launch and flight is typically desirable and should add some yards. Might be worth a look as well. My daughter just switched to this from the Srixon Z star SL. Limited testing due to weather, but so far she likes it.
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  • MukkyMukky Members Posts: 366 ✭✭


    It really sounds like you've predetermined the answer. Everyone who lauds the new ball gets a appreciative response. But the people who say they are playing the ball with speeds in excess of 100 mph are ignored. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but just how it appears to me.



    FWIW. I'm in that 105-108 range and love the Project a.



    Regardless of all that, best of luck finding the best ball for your daughter, has to be fun to get to be involved with trying to help her game.




    I agree. Apparently OP was just looking for an echo chamber
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mukky wrote:



    It really sounds like you've predetermined the answer. Everyone who lauds the new ball gets a appreciative response. But the people who say they are playing the ball with speeds in excess of 100 mph are ignored. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but just how it appears to me.



    FWIW. I'm in that 105-108 range and love the Project a.



    Regardless of all that, best of luck finding the best ball for your daughter, has to be fun to get to be involved with trying to help her game.




    I agree. Apparently OP was just looking for an echo chamber


    thanks OP

    keep up the value add
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    Odyssey V-Line Fang O-Works - Stability Shaft 
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  • MukkyMukky Members Posts: 366 ✭✭
    Morry wrote:

    Mukky wrote:



    It really sounds like you've predetermined the answer. Everyone who lauds the new ball gets a appreciative response. But the people who say they are playing the ball with speeds in excess of 100 mph are ignored. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but just how it appears to me.



    FWIW. I'm in that 105-108 range and love the Project a.



    Regardless of all that, best of luck finding the best ball for your daughter, has to be fun to get to be involved with trying to help her game.




    I agree. Apparently OP was just looking for an echo chamber


    thanks OP

    keep up the value add




    Read my first post, I tried to provide value. You instead decided to only laud anyone who agreed with you. Whatever. Buy your daughter a bunch of tp5x and chrome soft x. I'm sure they will work great with her 85 mph swing speed
  • MorryMorry Members Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mukky wrote:

    Morry wrote:

    Mukky wrote:



    It really sounds like you've predetermined the answer. Everyone who lauds the new ball gets a appreciative response. But the people who say they are playing the ball with speeds in excess of 100 mph are ignored. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but just how it appears to me.



    FWIW. I'm in that 105-108 range and love the Project a.



    Regardless of all that, best of luck finding the best ball for your daughter, has to be fun to get to be involved with trying to help her game.




    I agree. Apparently OP was just looking for an echo chamber


    thanks OP

    keep up the value add




    Read my first post, I tried to provide value. You instead decided to only laud anyone who agreed with you. Whatever. Buy your daughter a bunch of tp5x and chrome soft x. I'm sure they will work great with her 85 mph swing speed


    apologies!

    didn't mean anything at all and appreciate the post

    i thought you misunderstood me when i read it by asking why i was considering a "x" version - i never was - was asking if any project (a) users had tried the tp5 (non-x)

    i did kinda answer it and a number of other responses (i was travelling for a day or 2 and tried to answer a few at once)

    mentioned the 83 compression (tp5) vs 70 (pjt a) and 90 (17 prov) to help clarify what i was looking for

    i didn't mean anything untoward or to not acknowledge a disagreement

    i know that this is all "6/one half dozen" stuff - just looking for any experiences or views on the 2 balls - i do suspect they are more similar than different

    thanks - apologies and appreciated
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  • jacobEDGEjacobEDGE Members Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry to bump an old thread, but this video came out not too long ago.







    Rick Shiels (if you're unaware, PGA Teaching Pro, YouTube celebrity) tested the Project (A)'s, as well as the TP5 series. He was very very surprised by how well the Project A balls perform for the price point. Not any real significant differences between them & the much more expensive TP5 balls. Nearly identical spin rates, ball speeds, and distance totals/carries. He plays at much greater than 100mph swing speed and uses X flex shafts.



    So I don't really think your daughter would benefit at all to switching over to the new golf ball. If she does, it's most likely a mental/placebo thing.



    I'd say stick with Project (a) because they are so similar, and they are cheaper. Plus, you can't get the TP line in that bad a** yellow/green color.

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