It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[Titleist_242]

[quote name='codydustyn' timestamp='1438561578' post='12066616']
Anyone know which shaft would be comparable to a C-Taper S+ (125g) in feel? I really want to try these out.
[/quote]

I would guess 130x or 125x

[jonn443]

[quote name='Titleist_242' timestamp='1438567898' post='12067212']
[quote name='codydustyn' timestamp='1438561578' post='12066616']
Anyone know which shaft would be comparable to a C-Taper S+ (125g) in feel? I really want to try these out.
[/quote]

I would guess 130x or 125x
[/quote]

125S HSx1

[Mizunofan]

[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1437594206' post='12001260'][quote name='DantzN' timestamp='1437585929' post='12000298']
I new to this thread. Can someone telll me why there are more tour players using the Modus 3 120x shafts vs. the 125x shafts. I have been using DG X100 SS 1x for a coupple of years and would like to try these Nippons, what would i fit into the 120x or the 125x?
[/quote]
When 120 and 130 were the only options, the 120 was a closer fit to DG. They have a softer butt section which makes it feel ultra smooth and a stiffer tip for lower spin. The 125 is still relatively new, it is very very similar to the DG so if you are looking for a change, the 125 isn't going to change it up that much. 125X would be equal IMO to a X100 SSx1 but with a tad lower flight and for me, better consistency in distance and dispersion. I get zero ballooning with 125 and I do with X100 straight in. 125 is also weighted more evenly for me which I prefer their feel.

120 is a different profile all together. If you don't generate a lot of spin you might get a lower flight with more control than DG. If you are a high spin player you may get more spin than you bargained for. It is a case by case basis so you really had to try them. I highly suggest TX soft stepped for x100 SSx1 users. Or the 120X hard-stepped, but really they [b]feel[/b] soft to flex. They don't play soft to flex, they just feel softer. If you can get your hands on both, try X hsx1 or TX ssx1 would be my suggestion.[/quote]

Mark,

I would love to hear your suggestion for someone who currently plays the DG Tour Issue S400 shafts. They are smooth and perform fine for me, but they don't have that "pop" that my previous KBS Tours (X-flex, soft-stepped 1x) did. I would like to try the Nippon Pro Modus 120 or 125 shafts given all that I have read in this thread. I'm a high ball hitter, so I do not think the 130s would suit me. I'm a 10-Index and am pretty consistent in terms of ball-striking. I do not know my iron swing speed, but my driver swing speed averages ~96mph. I hit my 7-iron ~160 yards. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts/suggestions. Thanks in advance!

[markheardjr]

[quote name='Mizunofan' timestamp='1438586109' post='12068126']
[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1437594206' post='12001260'][quote name='DantzN' timestamp='1437585929' post='12000298']
I new to this thread. Can someone telll me why there are more tour players using the Modus 3 120x shafts vs. the 125x shafts. I have been using DG X100 SS 1x for a coupple of years and would like to try these Nippons, what would i fit into the 120x or the 125x?
[/quote]
When 120 and 130 were the only options, the 120 was a closer fit to DG. They have a softer butt section which makes it feel ultra smooth and a stiffer tip for lower spin. The 125 is still relatively new, it is very very similar to the DG so if you are looking for a change, the 125 isn't going to change it up that much. 125X would be equal IMO to a X100 SSx1 but with a tad lower flight and for me, better consistency in distance and dispersion. I get zero ballooning with 125 and I do with X100 straight in. 125 is also weighted more evenly for me which I prefer their feel.

120 is a different profile all together. If you don't generate a lot of spin you might get a lower flight with more control than DG. If you are a high spin player you may get more spin than you bargained for. It is a case by case basis so you really had to try them. I highly suggest TX soft stepped for x100 SSx1 users. Or the 120X hard-stepped, but really they [b]feel[/b] soft to flex. They don't play soft to flex, they just feel softer. If you can get your hands on both, try X hsx1 or TX ssx1 would be my suggestion.[/quote]

Mark,

I would love to hear your suggestion for someone who currently plays the DG Tour Issue S400 shafts. They are smooth and perform fine for me, but they don't have that "pop" that my previous KBS Tours (X-flex, soft-stepped 1x) did. I would like to try the Nippon Pro Modus 120 or 125 shafts given all that I have read in this thread. I'm a high ball hitter, so I do not think the 130s would suit me. I'm a 10-Index and am pretty consistent in terms of ball-striking. I do not know my iron swing speed, but my driver swing speed averages ~96mph. I hit my 7-iron ~160 yards. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts/suggestions. Thanks in advance!
[/quote]
125S should be just what the doctor ordered. A bit heavier feel, smooth. S400 was probably my favorite DG product thanks to the weight and lower flight but they did spin a bit extra for me. I find the 125 to be lower to mid flight but on a consistent basis. DG to me would sometimes balloon and sometimes be a low bullet, but I often could never tell what was coming. 125X (what I play) I can flight it on demand but my stock swing is lower to mid with mid spin (which is also more consistent for me.) I could play S400 hardstepped or X100 easily, but the consistency for me is why I play the Nippon over those. I have S400 wedges galore and X100 TI sets in my closet. They collect dust now.

AMT has some interesting features but I think we're a ways off before any of us get a set to try. But that could be what you're looking for too. But for now, try out the Nippons. I think you'll be happy with S400 to 125 transition. 125S if you're a smooth swinger, 125S hsx1 if you like to attack aggressively and don't struggle with spin. Maybe 125X ssx1 if you are aggressive and are looking to keep spin down too.

[golfahonas]

[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1438610035' post='12069008']
[quote name='Mizunofan' timestamp='1438586109' post='12068126']
[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1437594206' post='12001260'][quote name='DantzN' timestamp='1437585929' post='12000298']
I new to this thread. Can someone telll me why there are more tour players using the Modus 3 120x shafts vs. the 125x shafts. I have been using DG X100 SS 1x for a coupple of years and would like to try these Nippons, what would i fit into the 120x or the 125x?
[/quote]
When 120 and 130 were the only options, the 120 was a closer fit to DG. They have a softer butt section which makes it feel ultra smooth and a stiffer tip for lower spin. The 125 is still relatively new, it is very very similar to the DG so if you are looking for a change, the 125 isn't going to change it up that much. 125X would be equal IMO to a X100 SSx1 but with a tad lower flight and for me, better consistency in distance and dispersion. I get zero ballooning with 125 and I do with X100 straight in. 125 is also weighted more evenly for me which I prefer their feel.

120 is a different profile all together. If you don't generate a lot of spin you might get a lower flight with more control than DG. If you are a high spin player you may get more spin than you bargained for. It is a case by case basis so you really had to try them. I highly suggest TX soft stepped for x100 SSx1 users. Or the 120X hard-stepped, but really they [b]feel[/b] soft to flex. They don't play soft to flex, they just feel softer. If you can get your hands on both, try X hsx1 or TX ssx1 would be my suggestion.[/quote]

Mark,

I would love to hear your suggestion for someone who currently plays the DG Tour Issue S400 shafts. They are smooth and perform fine for me, but they don't have that "pop" that my previous KBS Tours (X-flex, soft-stepped 1x) did. I would like to try the Nippon Pro Modus 120 or 125 shafts given all that I have read in this thread. I'm a high ball hitter, so I do not think the 130s would suit me. I'm a 10-Index and am pretty consistent in terms of ball-striking. I do not know my iron swing speed, but my driver swing speed averages ~96mph. I hit my 7-iron ~160 yards. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts/suggestions. Thanks in advance!
[/quote]
125S should be just what the doctor ordered. A bit heavier feel, smooth. S400 was probably my favorite DG product thanks to the weight and lower flight but they did spin a bit extra for me. I find the 125 to be lower to mid flight but on a consistent basis. DG to me would sometimes balloon and sometimes be a low bullet, but I often could never tell what was coming. 125X (what I play) I can flight it on demand but my stock swing is lower to mid with mid spin (which is also more consistent for me.) I could play S400 hardstepped or X100 easily, but the consistency for me is why I play the Nippon over those. I have S400 wedges galore and X100 TI sets in my closet. They collect dust now.

AMT has some interesting features but I think we're a ways off before any of us get a set to try. But that could be what you're looking for too. But for now, try out the Nippons. I think you'll be happy with S400 to 125 transition. 125S if you're a smooth swinger, 125S hsx1 if you like to attack aggressively and don't struggle with spin. Maybe 125X ssx1 if you are aggressive and are looking to keep spin down too.
[/quote]

Any kind of shaft comparison chart including the modus 3 125 shafts?
I played miura baby blades with c taper x before and really liked them( I think they're easier to hit then most think and shot great numbers with them) I garaged those to play the 714 ap2's with s300's (because that's the shafts that were in them, and I thought I'd give them a try) as of lately because of the groove rule (mine were the outdated 1957 grooves((without the little "k" stamping)) I did this so I could compete in USGA tournaments.
Don't love the DG s300's but have had multiple good rounds with them in the 60's. I've never played Nippon shafts before but have heard they can play soft to flex, or they "feel" soft to flex because of their smoothness. Now to get to the point. My joints ache a lot more than they have before with the DG s300's (don't know if that's age or shaft harshness) so I'm hesitant on which Nippon 125 shaft I want to try and am looking for some good informative feedback. I've seen Mark give great information and looking for something of that sort.
My swing speed for a 6 iron I would say is roughly around 90mph. (Give or take a few depending on how I feel)The mizuno optimizer says 96 mph ( but that seems to be a lot lighter shaft do I question it, plus I don't want to swing all out to hit shots) I've got a mid-release (which they say would fit me in the Nippon 120 shaft, but not really looking at that one) and would be more aggressive than let's say "smooth" on the transition. I hit the ball with a nice boring trajectory. (I've been told it's lower than most, but it's definitely not too low) I want to play the shaft that's soft enough to get nice feedback (but tight dispersion) and at the same time not kill my joints. I need some good info on the 125x, and 125s as I don't know with the "x" I could possibly lose feel and increase harshness, or have the feel and less harshness with the "s" and lose the tight dispersion I need. Really Not to toot my horn, but I'm a + handicap, and just want some true in depth info on the Nippon 125 shaft that I'm looking hard at:) cheers
P.S. Forgive the long-winded ness but I'm going to pull the trigger soon and wanted to give good all around info. Thx

[Mizunofan]

[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1438610035' post='12069008'][quote name='Mizunofan' timestamp='1438586109' post='12068126']
[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1437594206' post='12001260'][quote name='DantzN' timestamp='1437585929' post='12000298']
I new to this thread. Can someone telll me why there are more tour players using the Modus 3 120x shafts vs. the 125x shafts. I have been using DG X100 SS 1x for a coupple of years and would like to try these Nippons, what would i fit into the 120x or the 125x?
[/quote]
When 120 and 130 were the only options, the 120 was a closer fit to DG. They have a softer butt section which makes it feel ultra smooth and a stiffer tip for lower spin. The 125 is still relatively new, it is very very similar to the DG so if you are looking for a change, the 125 isn't going to change it up that much. 125X would be equal IMO to a X100 SSx1 but with a tad lower flight and for me, better consistency in distance and dispersion. I get zero ballooning with 125 and I do with X100 straight in. 125 is also weighted more evenly for me which I prefer their feel.

120 is a different profile all together. If you don't generate a lot of spin you might get a lower flight with more control than DG. If you are a high spin player you may get more spin than you bargained for. It is a case by case basis so you really had to try them. I highly suggest TX soft stepped for x100 SSx1 users. Or the 120X hard-stepped, but really they [b]feel[/b] soft to flex. They don't play soft to flex, they just feel softer. If you can get your hands on both, try X hsx1 or TX ssx1 would be my suggestion.[/quote]

Mark,

I would love to hear your suggestion for someone who currently plays the DG Tour Issue S400 shafts. They are smooth and perform fine for me, but they don't have that "pop" that my previous KBS Tours (X-flex, soft-stepped 1x) did. I would like to try the Nippon Pro Modus 120 or 125 shafts given all that I have read in this thread. I'm a high ball hitter, so I do not think the 130s would suit me. I'm a 10-Index and am pretty consistent in terms of ball-striking. I do not know my iron swing speed, but my driver swing speed averages ~96mph. I hit my 7-iron ~160 yards. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts/suggestions. Thanks in advance!
[/quote]
125S should be just what the doctor ordered. A bit heavier feel, smooth. S400 was probably my favorite DG product thanks to the weight and lower flight but they did spin a bit extra for me. I find the 125 to be lower to mid flight but on a consistent basis. DG to me would sometimes balloon and sometimes be a low bullet, but I often could never tell what was coming. 125X (what I play) I can flight it on demand but my stock swing is lower to mid with mid spin (which is also more consistent for me.) I could play S400 hardstepped or X100 easily, but the consistency for me is why I play the Nippon over those. I have S400 wedges galore and X100 TI sets in my closet. They collect dust now.

AMT has some interesting features but I think we're a ways off before any of us get a set to try. But that could be what you're looking for too. But for now, try out the Nippons. I think you'll be happy with S400 to 125 transition. 125S if you're a smooth swinger, 125S hsx1 if you like to attack aggressively and don't struggle with spin. Maybe 125X ssx1 if you are aggressive and are looking to keep spin down too.[/quote]

Mark,

Thank you for the helpful info. and the quick reply. I too, thought that 125-Stiff would probably suit my swing best. I am more of a smooth swinger who constantly seeks to be even smoother, like Sam Snead.

I'm going to order a set and will post my impressions as soon as I get some quality time with them.

Thanks again!

[ferreta]

Is there still a trial club floating around?

[markheardjr]

[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438533995' post='12064392']
Also,

Would the 105 be considered just a lighter version of the 125? I am looking for a lighter shaft to put into my hybrid iron. I have 125X in my irons and am looking at the 105X in the 4 iron hybrid. Would this work for what I am looking for?
[/quote]
I would say be careful. The 105 is SUPER light feeling compared to the 125 and the weight difference will be enough for your swing to notice. 105 is higher launch and spin than 125 IMO but it isn't like balloon city or anything. Tour players like it because they pick up swingspeed and don't get tired banging balls and then it performs well. I would categorize it as mid spin and mid-high launch. It's kind of close to a 130 too being higher launch with a touch less spin than you'd expect for higher launch.
For 1 club, like a hybrid, worth a shot to order one and try it. You could also check out something like a 1150 or 1050 too to try the weight and see if you like it before you order a Tour105.

[markheardjr]

[quote name='Titleist_242' timestamp='1438567898' post='12067212']
[quote name='codydustyn' timestamp='1438561578' post='12066616']
Anyone know which shaft would be comparable to a C-Taper S+ (125g) in feel? I really want to try these out.
[/quote]

I would guess 130x or 125x
[/quote]
130S is plenty for C-Taper S+, maybe hardstepped 130S if you're a tweener of Ctaper S+ & Ctaper X. 125X soft-stepped is a good for Ctaper S+ IMO and a closer match in terms of feel/performance.

[Masse1369]

125X Softstepped go with ? wedge shafts?

Long time X100 and S400 user. Have recently switched to the A-Swing and have a smoother transition now and have slowed down a few notches. Still hitting the ball the same distance more or less. Modus Wedge 125, 125X Softepped (once or twice), 125S, 130S? Thoughts?

[pjc]

[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1438705037' post='12076450']
[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438533995' post='12064392']
Also,

Would the 105 be considered just a lighter version of the 125? I am looking for a lighter shaft to put into my hybrid iron. I have 125X in my irons and am looking at the 105X in the 4 iron hybrid. Would this work for what I am looking for?
[/quote]
I would say be careful. The 105 is SUPER light feeling compared to the 125 and the weight difference will be enough for your swing to notice. 105 is higher launch and spin than 125 IMO but it isn't like balloon city or anything. Tour players like it because they pick up swingspeed and don't get tired banging balls and then it performs well. I would categorize it as mid spin and mid-high launch. It's kind of close to a 130 too being higher launch with a touch less spin than you'd expect for higher launch.
For 1 club, like a hybrid, worth a shot to order one and try it. You could also check out something like a 1150 or 1050 too to try the weight and see if you like it before you order a Tour105.
[/quote]

Hey Mark,
I read here: http://www.golfshaftreviews.info/index.php/category/categories/nippon/ and this guy knows his stuff in my opinion. This review is on the prototype ST, which according to the Nippon website has become the modus 3 tour 105. He states that the profile closely resembles the NS Pro 1050 which I have now and love. "[color=#444444]flexural signature shows It is a little softer in the butt and stiffer in the tip than the 1050’s, tilted in such a way to slightly lower launch." Do you agree with this assessment? Would someone playing the 1050 stiff with success like the Modus 105?[/color]
[color=#444444]Thank you.[/color]

[markheardjr]

[quote name='pjc' timestamp='1438740525' post='12080420']
[quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1438705037' post='12076450']
[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438533995' post='12064392']
Also,

Would the 105 be considered just a lighter version of the 125? I am looking for a lighter shaft to put into my hybrid iron. I have 125X in my irons and am looking at the 105X in the 4 iron hybrid. Would this work for what I am looking for?
[/quote]
I would say be careful. The 105 is SUPER light feeling compared to the 125 and the weight difference will be enough for your swing to notice. 105 is higher launch and spin than 125 IMO but it isn't like balloon city or anything. Tour players like it because they pick up swingspeed and don't get tired banging balls and then it performs well. I would categorize it as mid spin and mid-high launch. It's kind of close to a 130 too being higher launch with a touch less spin than you'd expect for higher launch.
For 1 club, like a hybrid, worth a shot to order one and try it. You could also check out something like a 1150 or 1050 too to try the weight and see if you like it before you order a Tour105.
[/quote]

Hey Mark,
I read here: http://www.golfshaftreviews.info/index.php/category/categories/nippon/ and this guy knows his stuff in my opinion. This review is on the prototype ST, which according to the Nippon website has become the modus 3 tour 105. He states that the profile closely resembles the NS Pro 1050 which I have now and love. "[color=#444444]flexural signature shows It is a little softer in the butt and stiffer in the tip than the 1050’s, tilted in such a way to slightly lower launch." Do you agree with this assessment? Would someone playing the 1050 stiff with success like the Modus 105?[/color]
[color=#444444]Thank you.[/color]
[/quote]
Yes I would think so. It reminds me of a 1050, or a lighter more active 1150. The 105 might be in between 125 and 1050. Not as low launch and spin as 125 but less than 1050, but I'd say closer to 1050. They say 125 is slightly higher launch and spin than DG, I agree with the launch part but for me the spin is well lower, I don't balloon Tour125 like I do DG. ST Proto launch was a tad higher than 125 but spin did seem higher, enough to see a slight balloon for me.

[youngun87]

I am not sure this has been answered. I love the s400 as a wedge shaft. Don't really want to change from that weight and performance. What is the best option that nippon provides?

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438823768' post='12086536']
I am not sure this has been answered. I love the s400 as a wedge shaft. Don't really want to change from that weight and performance. What is the best option that nippon provides?
[/quote]

Modus 125 wedge

[DuckHook02]

[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438823768' post='12086536']
I am not sure this has been answered. I love the s400 as a wedge shaft. Don't really want to change from that weight and performance. What is the best option that nippon provides?
[/quote]

If you like the S400 wedge shaft, why not stick with it. A fair amount of players on tour that use Nippon, Project X, KBS, etc in their irons still have DG S400 in their wedges.

[youngun87]

[quote name='DuckHook02' timestamp='1438826288' post='12086818']
[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438823768' post='12086536']
I am not sure this has been answered. I love the s400 as a wedge shaft. Don't really want to change from that weight and performance. What is the best option that nippon provides?
[/quote]

If you like the S400 wedge shaft, why not stick with it. A fair amount of players on tour that use Nippon, Project X, KBS, etc in their irons still have DG S400 in their wedges.
[/quote]

Hah that is what I am doing now but I have literally never tried another wedge shaft. I game the 125 X after being a guy who thought I would never ever switch from DG's. I just want to experiment a little bit

[markheardjr]

[quote name='youngun87' timestamp='1438823768' post='12086536']
I am not sure this has been answered. I love the s400 as a wedge shaft. Don't really want to change from that weight and performance. What is the best option that nippon provides?
[/quote]
The 125 is more like a S200 wedge shaft from Japan. Honestly the C10 is very much like an S400 but they have an X version also so like an X400 with better feel. And the 2S14 proto was like an S700 or X700. Both are awesome proto's but too heavy in the irons for 99% of golfers, however the wedge shafts were phenomenal. I really hope Aldila extends the Modus Wedge line and comes out with maybe a 135 and a 145 wedge.

Many can comment on the older Super Peening Blue as a great heavy wedge shaft. S400 users should like the feel and performance of the SPB. Maybe a touch lower spin & launch than S400. Not as active flex-wise as the S400 or the Modus 125 Wedge. If you like muted and firm, this might be the choice for you. Closer to an X100 type feel in a wedge.

Also I highly suggest the Tour130 for wedge shafts. They are firm in the butt for excellent feel and feedback and the softer tip helps elevate the ball high with extra spin. When I gamed the 130S in my irons I played the 130S in my PW & GW and the C10 proto in my SW. But I've had the C10 in my SW for like 3 or 4 years now so I'm snobby and like it and it fits in perfectly with my Tour125 iron shafts I game now.

The Modus Wedge 125 is kind of a blend of the Tour130 and Tour125 PW length iron shafts. Stiffer but which both have. Softer middle like the 125, active lower half of the shaft like the 130. it is also the heaviest wedge option.

[Bogey_Fly_By]

Mark,

I saw a couple sites that were saying the Nippon super peening Orange are lower launch and spin than the modus 125 but we have also seen the modus 125 is very close to the super peening blue. I know you weren't a fan of the spo but do you think they launch/spin higher/more than the 125?

[markheardjr]

[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1438897673' post='12091998']
Mark,

I saw a couple sites that were saying the Nippon super peening Orange are lower launch and spin than the modus 125 but we have also seen the modus 125 is very close to the super peening blue. I know you weren't a fan of the spo but do you think they launch/spin higher/more than the 125?
[/quote]

I don't remember saying I wasn't a fan of SPO. I just only hit it a handful of times. I was on the fence for SPB which felt a tad dead and muted, just heavy.

The rep told me the ORA was the lowest launch & spin they had in play out on tour and is lower than 125. 125 is same profile as SPB but lighter weight, weigh distribution and manufacturing process is different so it apparently has more spin and higher launch. I think that means it just plays a touch softer so you get the higher numbers. I acutally think the SPO, ORA proto and the 125 are all fairly similar in feel and performance. The ORA has what feels like just a touch more rigidity so "boardier" feel like a CTaper. SPO for me was higher spinning than 125 from the limited experince I had long ago. But I also hit those in different heads and maybe 6-7 years ago? I was using 2S14 at the time so SPO probably felt like a light noodle to me.

[Oldboy]

anyone find the 125s or 105s retail yet? golfworks still has them as "backordered"

[Bogey_Fly_By]

[quote name='Oldboy' timestamp='1438996181' post='12098780']anyone find the 125s or 105s retail yet? golfworks still has them as "backordered"[/quote]

Check rakuten global. Golfone(a seller on rakuten) has them for about $27 a shaft and shipping has only cost me about 15 to 20 bucks for iron sets. They are pretty good to deal with as long as you don't mind waiting an extra week or so since their communication is a touch slow. I have ordered from them a couple times with no issues

[Oldboy]

[quote name='Bogey_Fly_By' timestamp='1438998181' post='12098970']
[quote name='Oldboy' timestamp='1438996181' post='12098780']anyone find the 125s or 105s retail yet? golfworks still has them as "backordered"[/quote]

Check rakuten global. Golfone(a seller on rakuten) has them for about $27 a shaft and shipping has only cost me about 15 to 20 bucks for iron sets. They are pretty good to deal with as long as you don't mind waiting an extra week or so since their communication is a touch slow. I have ordered from them a couple times with no issues
[/quote]

yes me and a couple of buddies ordered wedge shafts off that same seller on Rakuten. 8.01 was supposed to be the release date here just wanted to hear if anyone has seen them here

[jay65]

I hit the Pro Modus 105 S in a Ping i-e Demo today. Mightily impressed with it. My BS was consistently up by 3 mph to around 117-118mph with a 7 Iron, and SS of around 87mph. Normally I'm around 84mph and 115mph with a 7 iron, with my KBS Tours Stiff.

Strangely I noticed around 500rpm more spin with the Pro Modus 105, and the same Launch angle of 19.3* average in comparison to my KBS Tour Stiff, yet the Pro Modus 105 seem to have a more 'go forward' flight, rather than an arcing flight of the KBS Tours, so it gave the impression the the Pro Modus 105 had a slightly lower peak height, even though the spin rate was higher!!

Overall carry distance was 4 yards longer with the Nippons over the KBS Tour. I found the ballflight and feel of the Pro Modus 105 to be very similar to the Nippon 1150 rather than the 1050 actually. But then again, that's just me I guess.

Mightily impressed with them though.

[jay65]

Can I just put an addendum to the above post, and that is that my TM CB/KBS Tour Stiff 7 iron loft is 33.5* and the Ping i-e 7 iron loft is 32*, which may account for the extra ball speeds and 4 yards extra carry distances I saw. But spin rates would be significantly higher with the Pro Modus 105 in that case, and the ball flight would be higher too if it was a true loft to loft comparison. I can live with that extra spin rate quite well, giving me more stopping power into Greens, but a high spin player may have more issues, fortunately for me, that's not the case. The 105's will do me just fine.

[swizbeatz]

Swung a 120 on the range and liked the feel better than what I remember of 130, going to shaft up a set with 120x to compete to SPO.

[NRJyzr]

[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1439300225' post='12116082']
Can I just put an addendum to the above post, and that is that my TM CB/KBS Tour Stiff 7 iron loft is 33.5* and the Ping i-e 7 iron loft is 32*, which may account for the extra ball speeds and 4 yards extra carry distances I saw. But spin rates would be significantly higher with the Pro Modus 105 in that case, and the ball flight would be higher too if it was a true loft to loft comparison. I can live with that extra spin rate quite well, giving me more stopping power into Greens, but a high spin player may have more issues, fortunately for me, that's not the case. The 105's will do me just fine.
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You can indeed add an addendum

[Marsh3565]

I'm looking for info, on the 105s compared to the present 120s I have in my blades?

Anyone know what the difference in both of these shafts are in ball flight?

Cheers

[knickerbocker]

[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1439302131' post='12116270']
Swung a 120 on the range and liked the feel better than what I remember of 130, going to shaft up a set with 120x to compete to SPO.
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I am still loving my 120X.

[snook...]

I can't find the list of shaft equivalents. I know it's been posted before. Sorry to ask the same question that's been asked many times.

What do s300 and kbs tour stiff match up with. 120x or 120S. 125 S or X. And the 130's. S?

Thanks. I know it's been posted before.

[otw]

[quote name='Marsh3565' timestamp='1439591647' post='12139222']
I'm looking for info, on the 105s compared to the present 120s I have in my blades?

Anyone know what the difference in both of these shafts are in ball flight?

Cheers
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My experience with wedges only. The ball comes out lower then reaches a similar height with the 125 as the Modus 120 which i use.. When I spoke to Nippon rep at U.S. corp he confirmed this and that 105 is lighter version of 125 so should have similar flight characteristics.

Doug Ferreri

www.PaulBertholy.com