Official Taylormade M1 Driver Thread

[Peanut191]

Anyone swap the Black 15 grams and Red 10 grams weight? Put the black in the back track and the red in the front track?

 

Would it make you have a higher launch?

I was curious if anyone has done this as well. I wasn't getting quite enough spin when I demo'd the M1. Maybe I'll get a chance to try it at the shop later this week.

[OspreyCI]

That would be great. Since you are on the monitor, try both weights in the front track also if you don't mind and have the time. Very interested. Thanks

[Milez28]

Anyone swap the Black 15 grams and Red 10 grams weight? Put the black in the back track and the red in the front track?

 

Would it make you have a higher launch?

 

Don't think you can do that. The red weights have a flat back and the front weights are slightly curved that follows the shape of the front track.

 

I've replaced the front 15g weight with 2 - 9g weights and liked the results. Gave it even lower ball flight but mostly liked the heavier weight. I've since added hotmelt and went back to the original front weight and gives the same result with more muted sound.

[Peanut191]

Anyone swap the Black 15 grams and Red 10 grams weight? Put the black in the back track and the red in the front track?

 

Would it make you have a higher launch?

 

Don't think you can do that. The red weights have a flat back and the front weights are slightly curved that follows the shape of the front track.

 

I've replaced the front 15g weight with 2 - 9g weights and liked the results. Gave it even lower ball flight but mostly liked the heavier weight. I've since added hotmelt and went back to the original front weight and gives the same result with more muted sound.

That's interesting. I knew the black and red covers were different sizes, but I thought the actual weight part was the metal piece under that cover. So, the metal pieces(weights) are different sizes as well or am I completely wrong with all of this?

[Milez28]

Anyone swap the Black 15 grams and Red 10 grams weight? Put the black in the back track and the red in the front track?

 

Would it make you have a higher launch?

 

Don't think you can do that. The red weights have a flat back and the front weights are slightly curved that follows the shape of the front track.

 

I've replaced the front 15g weight with 2 - 9g weights and liked the results. Gave it even lower ball flight but mostly liked the heavier weight. I've since added hotmelt and went back to the original front weight and gives the same result with more muted sound.

That's interesting. I knew the black and red covers were different sizes, but I thought the actual weight part was the metal piece under that cover. So, the metal pieces(weights) are different sizes as well or am I completely wrong with all of this?

 

Where the cover and weight attach is different. The back track is flat so the "in between" the cover and weight, it's flat. The front track is slightly curved, so between the weight and cover it's also curved to follow the line of the front track.

 

Just remove the weights and you'll see the difference. They're east to take off and on. Not saying it won't work and you might make it work, but they're not designed to.

[Peanut191]

Anyone swap the Black 15 grams and Red 10 grams weight? Put the black in the back track and the red in the front track?

 

Would it make you have a higher launch?

 

Don't think you can do that. The red weights have a flat back and the front weights are slightly curved that follows the shape of the front track.

 

I've replaced the front 15g weight with 2 - 9g weights and liked the results. Gave it even lower ball flight but mostly liked the heavier weight. I've since added hotmelt and went back to the original front weight and gives the same result with more muted sound.

That's interesting. I knew the black and red covers were different sizes, but I thought the actual weight part was the metal piece under that cover. So, the metal pieces(weights) are different sizes as well or am I completely wrong with all of this?

 

Where the cover and weight attach is different. The back track is flat so the "in between" the cover and weight, it's flat. The front track is slightly curved, so between the weight and cover it's also curved to follow the line of the front track.

 

Just remove the weights and you'll see the difference. They're east to take off and on. Not saying it won't work and you might make it work, but they're not designed to.

That makes sense. Thanks for your help.

[chicagolongball]

So, I'm watching the tournament on TV, and I just thought to myself... it seems like every single guy who isn't contractually obligated is playing the M1 driver. I went through a fitting and, while the Srixon in my signature ended up being the one I chose, it was the path of least resistance versus the M1 (and I tried all of them, not just those two). M1 was a slightly distant second in my fitting, but if I'd have had more time (and more swings left in me), I probably could have gotten the M1 dialed in to be comparable to the Srixon. Srixon was longer and more accurate with less tweaking- much easier and better fit for me from the get-go.

 

I guess my point in posting this- should I have given the M1 a closer look? I really didn't like the look of the M1 at address, I've always been more of a traditionalist in regards to looks. But, I am not anti- non-traditional (if that makes sense, I can get very used to something that is long(-ier) and straight(-ier) quickly!). I also was not offended by the feel and sound, something that's been more and more rare for me in regards to TaylorMade.

 

Someone answer my doubts for me, but please leave out any brand bias and answer with facts, data, or personal experience. I know I should be happy with what I have (and I am, extremely- if you haven't hit Srixon's new line, do yourself a favor and do!). I just also know that I like buying new things and it wouldn't break my heart to pick up an M1 sometime when the weather starts breaking here in NE Ohio, just to mess around with. Thanks!

 

I hit pretty much every driver out there and M1 was 2mph better on ball speed and lower spin than anything else. I ended up with 25 ball averages of 15.8/1903/174. There was nothing close except my previous r15 tour issue. It was 8-10 yards longer carry and about 15 yards total distance longer. Every other driver was at least that much shorter overall. If you want high ball speeds and ultra low spin, nothing beats M1. Now that said, the mega low spin might not be what YOU need, and there certainly are more forgiving heads out there like the new Callaway and Ping G driver. I can only comment on myself and my the experiences of friends and associates, and about 8/10 are playing M1 drivers.

 

As for the look. I don't like it either. I'm currently having mine redone and changing the white to black on the crown and the face to silver. It's a look that I strongly prefer.

[ram01002]

So, I'm watching the tournament on TV, and I just thought to myself... it seems like every single guy who isn't contractually obligated is playing the M1 driver. I went through a fitting and, while the Srixon in my signature ended up being the one I chose, it was the path of least resistance versus the M1 (and I tried all of them, not just those two). M1 was a slightly distant second in my fitting, but if I'd have had more time (and more swings left in me), I probably could have gotten the M1 dialed in to be comparable to the Srixon. Srixon was longer and more accurate with less tweaking- much easier and better fit for me from the get-go.

 

I guess my point in posting this- should I have given the M1 a closer look? I really didn't like the look of the M1 at address, I've always been more of a traditionalist in regards to looks. But, I am not anti- non-traditional (if that makes sense, I can get very used to something that is long(-ier) and straight(-ier) quickly!). I also was not offended by the feel and sound, something that's been more and more rare for me in regards to TaylorMade.

 

Someone answer my doubts for me, but please leave out any brand bias and answer with facts, data, or personal experience. I know I should be happy with what I have (and I am, extremely- if you haven't hit Srixon's new line, do yourself a favor and do!). I just also know that I like buying new things and it wouldn't break my heart to pick up an M1 sometime when the weather starts breaking here in NE Ohio, just to mess around with. Thanks!

 

I hit pretty much every driver out there and M1 was 2mph better on ball speed and lower spin than anything else. I ended up with 25 ball averages of 15.8/1903/174. There was nothing close except my previous r15 tour issue. It was 8-10 yards longer carry and about 15 yards total distance longer. Every other driver was at least that much shorter overall. If you want high ball speeds and ultra low spin, nothing beats M1. Now that said, the mega low spin might not be what YOU need, and there certainly are more forgiving heads out there like the new Callaway and Ping G driver. I can only comment on myself and my the experiences of friends and associates, and about 8/10 are playing M1 drivers.

 

As for the look. I don't like it either. I'm currently having mine redone and changing the white to black on the crown and the face to silver. It's a look that I strongly prefer.

 

Post a pic when you get it back! I'd love to see some non-stormtrooper versions!

[chicagolongball]

So, I'm watching the tournament on TV, and I just thought to myself... it seems like every single guy who isn't contractually obligated is playing the M1 driver. I went through a fitting and, while the Srixon in my signature ended up being the one I chose, it was the path of least resistance versus the M1 (and I tried all of them, not just those two). M1 was a slightly distant second in my fitting, but if I'd have had more time (and more swings left in me), I probably could have gotten the M1 dialed in to be comparable to the Srixon. Srixon was longer and more accurate with less tweaking- much easier and better fit for me from the get-go.

 

I guess my point in posting this- should I have given the M1 a closer look? I really didn't like the look of the M1 at address, I've always been more of a traditionalist in regards to looks. But, I am not anti- non-traditional (if that makes sense, I can get very used to something that is long(-ier) and straight(-ier) quickly!). I also was not offended by the feel and sound, something that's been more and more rare for me in regards to TaylorMade.

 

Someone answer my doubts for me, but please leave out any brand bias and answer with facts, data, or personal experience. I know I should be happy with what I have (and I am, extremely- if you haven't hit Srixon's new line, do yourself a favor and do!). I just also know that I like buying new things and it wouldn't break my heart to pick up an M1 sometime when the weather starts breaking here in NE Ohio, just to mess around with. Thanks!

 

I hit pretty much every driver out there and M1 was 2mph better on ball speed and lower spin than anything else. I ended up with 25 ball averages of 15.8/1903/174. There was nothing close except my previous r15 tour issue. It was 8-10 yards longer carry and about 15 yards total distance longer. Every other driver was at least that much shorter overall. If you want high ball speeds and ultra low spin, nothing beats M1. Now that said, the mega low spin might not be what YOU need, and there certainly are more forgiving heads out there like the new Callaway and Ping G driver. I can only comment on myself and my the experiences of friends and associates, and about 8/10 are playing M1 drivers.

 

As for the look. I don't like it either. I'm currently having mine redone and changing the white to black on the crown and the face to silver. It's a look that I strongly prefer.

 

Post a pic when you get it back! I'd love to see some non-stormtrooper versions!

 

I will. I don't mind the all white like r15 but that two tone look is just not something I can get used to. I kill the club when hitting it, but I hate looking at it. I just want it one color, and I'd prefer to see the contrast to the face from crown so if one is black the other has to be lighter. Im leaving the carbon visible with the white portion painted black. In this case, silver face, black/carbon crown = perfect to my eye.

[CJ90]

Speaking of putting both weights on the front track and of painting the crown one color, I did both.

[OspreyCI]

Very Nice CJ90!!! Two Questions:

1. Who did the paint job?

2. What did having both weights in the front do for launch and spin.?

 

Thanks for posting.

[Kamen]

How does it play now with that setup? Really reminds me of the R15 haha

[kevin1826]

That looks great CJ90. I think that I still like the stormtrooper better but I have always been a little flashy! ?

I would think that both on the front track would move the CG even farther forward and lower spin. Interested to see what the data shows!

[CJ90]

Very Nice CJ90!!! Two Questions:

1. Who did the paint job?

2. What did having both weights in the front do for launch and spin.?

 

Thanks for posting.

 

Continental did the paint job, and did it perfectly -- very pleased.

 

I should hit a meaningful sample size of shots before providing any data or extensive comments. In my initial goofing around with it on the LM, my spin numbers were in the neighborhood of 1900-2000 rpm, but whether that holds up and whether there's any real difference between numbers with the two weights on the front track (either slightly split or right next to each other) versus one in front and the other in the forward position on the front-back track remains to be seen. My completely wild guess is that the difference won't be statistically significant (I'll be a little surprised if it's consistently 100+ rpm lower), and that it was a waste of the few minutes I spent playing around with it, except that it's fun to tinker.

[Boydr12]

Anyone that has Hotmelted theirs want to share their results for sound reduction....? I mean it's not loud, but it could be more muted in my book...

After my first round with my hotmelted M1, all I can say is wow. It is very muted and very solid feeling. Well worth it.

 

Now if I could just stop fading it so much. Anyone else feel it is fade bias?

 

Same here, got about 5 grams put in it, and the sound is honestly perfect now. It wasn't very loud before, but now it's just solid

[ProStryker]

Question on shaft sleeve settings: If a person were to insert the shaft to a higher or lower loft setting, will it change the loft if you hover the club and then grip it, or does that only pertain to face angle? I remember people talking about settings not changing unless you ground the club then grip it, but can't remember the particulars of this.

 

For example, if I have a 9.5 head, and move the shaft one setting higher, I would assume I am now slightly more loft and slightly more closed face. So if I grip the club while hovering it, and don't set it on the ground, what is my loft and face angle? What about setting it on the ground then gripping it? Is loft always changed no matter what, and face angle only changed if you sole the club at address and gripping? Thanks for anyone's better understanding on this.

[OspreyCI]

Question on shaft sleeve settings: If a person were to insert the shaft to a higher or lower loft setting, will it change the loft if you hover the club and then grip it, or does that only pertain to face angle? I remember people talking about settings not changing unless you ground the club then grip it, but can't remember the particulars of this.

 

For example, if I have a 9.5 head, and move the shaft one setting higher, I would assume I am now slightly more loft and slightly more closed face. So if I grip the club while hovering it, and don't set it on the ground, what is my loft and face angle? What about setting it on the ground then gripping it? Is loft always changed no matter what, and face angle only changed if you sole the club at address and gripping? Thanks for anyone's better understanding on this.

This may help. It did for me.

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1081535-how-adjustable-drivers-actually-work-everyone-should-be-required-to-watch-this-to-be-allowed-to-post-on-this-site-thanks-tom-wishon/

[mattsam]

I had great success this weekend with the 430 head. No misses right, like I did with the 460 head.

Toe shots really suffered, more than I would have expected. Club looks, feels, and plays really nice.

[ProStryker]

It's always interesting to read people's perception and thoughts on look, sound, and feel. To me, the M1 is the quietest and most muted driver I've hit in a long time. I would never need hotmelt or put cotton in mine. I'm not sure if different M1 heads sound different, but mine sounds muted to me. But others on here say it's loud. And then in terms of looks, I absolutely love the crown, the black and white looks awesome to me, seems easier to line up, I feel that it looks better than any driver I've had in the last 10 years. But others on here hate the look and want to paint it. On the same note, I could never play an orange or blue or red driver, or a Nike driver with a big Swoosh on the crown. It's just interesting how subjective sound and look is to different people.

[Deuce78]

It's always interesting to read people's perception and thoughts on look, sound, and feel. To me, the M1 is the quietest and most muted driver I've hit in a long time. I would never need hotmelt or put cotton in mine. I'm not sure if different M1 heads sound different, but mine sounds muted to me. But others on here say it's loud. And then in terms of looks, I absolutely love the crown, the black and white looks awesome to me, seems easier to line up, I feel that it looks better than any driver I've had in the last 10 years. But others on here hate the look and want to paint it. On the same note, I could never play an orange or blue or red driver, or a Nike driver with a big Swoosh on the crown. It's just interesting how subjective sound and look is to different people.

 

The M1 demo club I hit from the rep was noticeably quieter than the one I ended up getting from the store. I know because the first m1 was quite than my r15, and the 2nd m1 was louder than my r15...I think it's manufacturing inconsistencies....

[Man_O_War]

So, I'm watching the tournament on TV, and I just thought to myself... it seems like every single guy who isn't contractually obligated is playing the M1 driver. I went through a fitting and, while the Srixon in my signature ended up being the one I chose, it was the path of least resistance versus the M1 (and I tried all of them, not just those two). M1 was a slightly distant second in my fitting, but if I'd have had more time (and more swings left in me), I probably could have gotten the M1 dialed in to be comparable to the Srixon. Srixon was longer and more accurate with less tweaking- much easier and better fit for me from the get-go.

 

I guess my point in posting this- should I have given the M1 a closer look? I really didn't like the look of the M1 at address, I've always been more of a traditionalist in regards to looks. But, I am not anti- non-traditional (if that makes sense, I can get very used to something that is long(-ier) and straight(-ier) quickly!). I also was not offended by the feel and sound, something that's been more and more rare for me in regards to TaylorMade.

 

Someone answer my doubts for me, but please leave out any brand bias and answer with facts, data, or personal experience. I know I should be happy with what I have (and I am, extremely- if you haven't hit Srixon's new line, do yourself a favor and do!). I just also know that I like buying new things and it wouldn't break my heart to pick up an M1 sometime when the weather starts breaking here in NE Ohio, just to mess around with. Thanks!

 

 

TM pays everyone who uses their drivers on tour.. my theory is it is a great driver.. and forgiven. Pros play to make money with all the serious fitting they go through..they can dial in anything...

[bdiddyballin]

SUB-ZERO!!!!!! I don't know if its been talked about yet on this M1 forum. With not knowing anything really much on the new cally sub-zero (proto) yet but seeing the pictures. Would putting the back weight in my M1 430 all the way back and of course the front weight is already front. It looks a lot like where the sub-zero weight screws are on the Cally. Also with the M2. Hearing so much about the King driver with having a (zero CG). Would M2 have that too being that all the weight is low and back? Sounds like this (sub-zero) thing is going to be the new buzz word.

[4rheel]

For those of you that added hotmelt, did you go through the port or the hosel?

 

And where did you place the hotmelt?

[Peanut191]

Sub-Zero is a video game character from Mortal Kombat.

 

Just kidding... I think the Sub-Zero is tour only right now, but I'd imagine Callaway will eventually release it.

[TRheezy]

Went in for a fitting today. Walking in the fitting I thought for sure I would be walking out of the fitting with a Ping G LS Tec, but what really happened was that I walked out with a M1 460. Was fitted for an 8.5 head cranked down to 7 degrees with a Rogue Silver X shaft. Honestly it is one of the best feeling drivers that I have ever hit. I can't wait to get out on the course with it.

[TMBob]

Sorry, but I have followed this thread thru over 289k views and it's time to move on to the M2 thread since mine just showed up with a HZDRUS 65.

 

It was great getting to learn about M1.....see ya.

[TourPreferred0430]

Sorry, but I have followed this thread thru over 289k views and it's time to move on to the M2 thread since mine just showed up with a HZDRUS 65.

 

It was great getting to learn about M1.....see ya.

 

Would love to hear your thoughts on M1 vs. M2!

[dbaker0428]

I'm sure TM will take care of it, but they can't give you another perfect day for golf in PA in December!

 

The quality on that head is SHAMEFUL!

Well TM did not take care of it and are sending it back to me. They tested it and said it is actually hotter and better than a normal head. From the few swings I took it is anything but hot. Plus it has the beautiful acoustics of that glorious Nike Sumo Square.

So I spent $500 on a non conforming tin can sounding cosmetic mess. This thing looks like I bought it off the streets of Beijing for $100. I told my shop to tell TM to use it as a demo head if they think it's so great.

 

I am about as easy going as it gets but this has me boiling. Almost 3 months since I first ordered and still no driver. And when I finally do get it, it's the same piece of crap that I am not putting back in my bag. Hope my shop can get somewhere with his rep.

 

Thanks Taylormade????

[EKELLY]

Good club, not worthy of the hype though. Just because TM pays everyone that raises their hand on tour, doesn't mean much to the masses.

Stay a cycle behind, it'll $199 by the end of the year......LOL

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Good club, not worthy of the hype though. Just because TM pays everyone that raises their hand on tour, doesn't mean much to the masses.

Stay a cycle behind, it'll $199 by the end of the year......LOL

 

I'm not a TM fanboy but it's pretty obvious that the "drop in price, fast release cycles," is really old. You people need new material, and especially the haters. Who cares if they release a new driver every 6 months? People will still buy it, then move on to something new, case in point is the BST. If you're going to be like the rest of the monkeys, then at least be creative in your bashing.