POLL: Let’s settle the ”wrx long” claim driver debate.

[Sean2]

It's like I wrote in the 3 wood thread (that thread is in the WRX hall of fame in my books). Threads about distance will skew towards bigger hitters because they are more likely to post in the threads where they can boast about these things. Even if the question is directed at all members, the longer hitters will feel more comfortable posting their distances. And even despite this OBVIOUS survey bias, the numbers still aren't that crazy in the threads I read

 

The example I gave was go to a general car enthusiasts site and start a thread asking what your 1/4 mile time is. Who is more likely to respond? The guy who owns a Camaro ZL1 or the guy who who owns a Chevy Colorado with off road mods. The guy in the pickup truck still has a 1/4 mile time... He just thinks "this thread isn't directed at me

 

So numbers skew up. Why people don't see this is surprising.

 

In my misspent youth I did a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds in a souped up Chevy SS. I was haulin' a**. lol

 

I can hit a 200 yard drive, and on occasion I can hit a 240 yard drive. I probably average in the 215 to 225 range. In my personal opinion, distance off the tee only becomes an issue if a golfer plays the wrong tees: too far back and the golfer is looking at very long approach shots all day. Too far forward and the golfer is hitting a lot of wedges into the green. If a golfer plays the correct tees than his distance off the tee is long enough. :-)

[deadsolid...shank]

It's like I wrote in the 3 wood thread (that thread is in the WRX hall of fame in my books). Threads about distance will skew towards bigger hitters because they are more likely to post in the threads where they can boast about these things. Even if the question is directed at all members, the longer hitters will feel more comfortable posting their distances. And even despite this OBVIOUS survey bias, the numbers still aren't that crazy in the threads I read

 

The example I gave was go to a general car enthusiasts site and start a thread asking what your 1/4 mile time is. Who is more likely to respond? The guy who owns a Camaro ZL1 or the guy who who owns a Chevy Colorado with off road mods. The guy in the pickup truck still has a 1/4 mile time... He just thinks "this thread isn't directed at me

 

So numbers skew up. Why people don't see this is surprising.

 

In my misspent youth I did a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds in a souped up Chevy SS. I was haulin' a**. lol

 

 

In my youth I could run 100 yards in 9.8 seconds (and yes, I’m old enough that did actually run yards!). Not sure I ever had a car that would run a full quarter mile! It was good to live a block from school.

[Lincoln_Arcadia]

It's like I wrote in the 3 wood thread (that thread is in the WRX hall of fame in my books). Threads about distance will skew towards bigger hitters because they are more likely to post in the threads where they can boast about these things. Even if the question is directed at all members, the longer hitters will feel more comfortable posting their distances. And even despite this OBVIOUS survey bias, the numbers still aren't that crazy in the threads I read

 

The example I gave was go to a general car enthusiasts site and start a thread asking what your 1/4 mile time is. Who is more likely to respond? The guy who owns a Camaro ZL1 or the guy who who owns a Chevy Colorado with off road mods. The guy in the pickup truck still has a 1/4 mile time... He just thinks "this thread isn't directed at me

 

So numbers skew up. Why people don't see this is surprising.

 

In my misspent youth I did a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds in a souped up Chevy SS. I was haulin' a**. lol

 

 

In my youth I could run 100 yards in 9.8 seconds (and yes, I’m old enough that did actually run yards!��). Not sure I ever had a car that would run a full quarter mile! It was good to live a block from school. ��

 

At first I misread Sean's post as being ran a 1/4 mile in 9.8 seconds then saw the "Chevy SS" and my heart rate dropped back to normal. Still impressive, though. A thought crossed my mind that he'd need something to keep the front of the car down.

[Sean2]

It's like I wrote in the 3 wood thread (that thread is in the WRX hall of fame in my books). Threads about distance will skew towards bigger hitters because they are more likely to post in the threads where they can boast about these things. Even if the question is directed at all members, the longer hitters will feel more comfortable posting their distances. And even despite this OBVIOUS survey bias, the numbers still aren't that crazy in the threads I read

 

The example I gave was go to a general car enthusiasts site and start a thread asking what your 1/4 mile time is. Who is more likely to respond? The guy who owns a Camaro ZL1 or the guy who who owns a Chevy Colorado with off road mods. The guy in the pickup truck still has a 1/4 mile time... He just thinks "this thread isn't directed at me

 

So numbers skew up. Why people don't see this is surprising.

 

In my misspent youth I did a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds in a souped up Chevy SS. I was haulin' a**. lol

 

 

In my youth I could run 100 yards in 9.8 seconds (and yes, I’m old enough that did actually run yards!��). Not sure I ever had a car that would run a full quarter mile! It was good to live a block from school. ��

 

You were one fast runner!

[Sean2]

It's like I wrote in the 3 wood thread (that thread is in the WRX hall of fame in my books). Threads about distance will skew towards bigger hitters because they are more likely to post in the threads where they can boast about these things. Even if the question is directed at all members, the longer hitters will feel more comfortable posting their distances. And even despite this OBVIOUS survey bias, the numbers still aren't that crazy in the threads I read

 

The example I gave was go to a general car enthusiasts site and start a thread asking what your 1/4 mile time is. Who is more likely to respond? The guy who owns a Camaro ZL1 or the guy who who owns a Chevy Colorado with off road mods. The guy in the pickup truck still has a 1/4 mile time... He just thinks "this thread isn't directed at me

 

So numbers skew up. Why people don't see this is surprising.

 

In my misspent youth I did a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds in a souped up Chevy SS. I was haulin' a**. lol

 

 

In my youth I could run 100 yards in 9.8 seconds (and yes, I’m old enough that did actually run yards!��). Not sure I ever had a car that would run a full quarter mile! It was good to live a block from school. ��

 

At first I misread Sean's post as being ran a 1/4 mile in 9.8 seconds then saw the "Chevy SS" and my heart rate dropped back to normal. Still impressive, though. A thought crossed my mind that he'd need something to keep the front of the car down.

 

I didn't know the mechanics, I just know it went...fast. lol

[wildcatden]

My average carry is 280....unfortunately, it is to the right (and continuing right). LOL

[Rosco1216]

Bump in attempt to get his poll moving again.

[Strömsborg]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

[Rosco1216]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

Well its not an average, so there’s that. But what makes you think the PGA tour would be the standard for distance? Are they the biggest? No. Are they the strongest? No. Are they the fastest? No. Most athletic? No. So what makes you think they would be the standard argument for how far people can hit the ball? They are simply the most consistent and efficient at scoring.

 

At least be original enough to come up with a better argument than the “that’s longer than PGA Tour” nonsense.

[Strömsborg]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

Well its not an average, so there's that. But what makes you think the PGA tour would be the standard for distance? Are they the biggest? No. Are they the strongest? No. Are they the fastest? No. Most athletic? No. So what makes you think they would be the standard argument for how far people can hit the ball? They are simply the most consistent and efficient at scoring.

 

At least be original enough to come up with a better argument than the "that's longer than PGA Tour" nonsense.

 

Apart from them being the best players in the world, in an era where distance is more important than ever, and a majority of them are great athletes? The idea of a larger percentage on GolfWRX than on the PGA Tour being able to hit it over 300 yards carry is nonsense, even without money on the line. No need to be original.

 

The explanation is twofold, lying (you may call it delusion) and that people hitting it a long way are more likely than the short hitters to answer in a driving distance poll.

[Rosco1216]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

Well its not an average, so there's that. But what makes you think the PGA tour would be the standard for distance? Are they the biggest? No. Are they the strongest? No. Are they the fastest? No. Most athletic? No. So what makes you think they would be the standard argument for how far people can hit the ball? They are simply the most consistent and efficient at scoring.

 

At least be original enough to come up with a better argument than the "that's longer than PGA Tour" nonsense.

 

Apart from them being the best players in the world, in an era where distance is more important than ever, and a majority of them are great athletes? The idea of a larger percentage on GolfWRX than on the PGA Tour being able to hit it over 300 yards carry is nonsense, even without money on the line. No need to be original.

 

The explanation is twofold, lying (you may call it delusion) and that people hitting it a long way are more likely than the short hitters to answer in a driving distance poll.

The majority of them are great athletes? That’s 100x the biggest exaggeration than any distance claim in the history of golfwrx.

 

A majority of them are more athletic than say, 15 years ago, but they are still far from great athletes physically.

 

The larger percentage is skewed as only 188 posters have responded.188 out of what, 200k members? 4% certainly wouldn’t be the average.

[Lincoln_Arcadia]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

Well its not an average, so there's that. But what makes you think the PGA tour would be the standard for distance? Are they the biggest? No. Are they the strongest? No. Are they the fastest? No. Most athletic? No. So what makes you think they would be the standard argument for how far people can hit the ball? They are simply the most consistent and efficient at scoring.

 

At least be original enough to come up with a better argument than the "that's longer than PGA Tour" nonsense.

 

Apart from them being the best players in the world, in an era where distance is more important than ever, and a majority of them are great athletes? The idea of a larger percentage on GolfWRX than on the PGA Tour being able to hit it over 300 yards carry is nonsense, even without money on the line. No need to be original.

 

The explanation is twofold, lying (you may call it delusion) and that people hitting it a long way are more likely than the short hitters to answer in a driving distance poll.

 

Typically, longer hitters respond to these types of threads than short hitters, so there will be some bias there.

 

Plus, most people don't seem to realize that the pros are NOT hitting to maximize their distances. Most hit down, and that knocks significant carry yardage, but increases the backspin which gives them more control. They also hit straighter.

 

Most of the amateurs who hit far are hitting up on the ball, which maximizes the distance such that their 105mph to 110mph swings can give similar distances as the pros 116mph swing.

 

For example:

110mph with an upward swing of 5 degrees gives 268 carry with 1716 spin

115mph with a downward swing of 5 degrees (Pros hit 1.3 degrees down on average) gives a carry of 261 with 3030 backspin.

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...wing_Speeds.png

 

So, it should be pretty easy to believe that there are many non-pros who hit as far and possibly farther than the pros only not as accurate and controlled as the pros.

[cardoustie]

I can carry it 265-279 on good swings per recent Trackman fitting

 

With lots of dough on the line .. I'm going with 240 max to win the $$$

[Cicero]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

 

4%? 4 out of 100 is unbelievable? Never mind the fact that the sample size is larger here, and that you don’t have to be a tour player to create the speed necessary to hit those numbers.

 

PGA tour players don’t have the market cornered on distance. They are the best in the world, not the longest. There is a difference.

 

The “you’re so long, why aren’t you on tour” line of thought is the most perplexing on discussion boards to me. I’ve said it before: it takes a lot more skill development to shoot par than it does to hit a 300 yard drive on a consistent basis. You just have to have enough speed and find the face in order to hit 300; that’s it. Shooting par or better requires a level of mastery in multiple disciplines, expressed in the same round. But how often do people question a guy shooting par or below, the way they question someone regularly hitting 300? Shouldn’t that be the other way around, if anything??

 

[MrJones]

4.32% carry over 300 yards? Thats longer than the PGA tour, where at the moment around 7% of the players have an average total length of +300 yards.

An anonymous poll and people still lie.

Well its not an average, so there's that. But what makes you think the PGA tour would be the standard for distance? Are they the biggest? No. Are they the strongest? No. Are they the fastest? No. Most athletic? No. So what makes you think they would be the standard argument for how far people can hit the ball? They are simply the most consistent and efficient at scoring.

 

At least be original enough to come up with a better argument than the "that's longer than PGA Tour" nonsense.

 

Apart from them being the best players in the world, in an era where distance is more important than ever, and a majority of them are great athletes? The idea of a larger percentage on GolfWRX than on the PGA Tour being able to hit it over 300 yards carry is nonsense, even without money on the line. No need to be original.

 

The explanation is twofold, lying (you may call it delusion) and that people hitting it a long way are more likely than the short hitters to answer in a driving distance poll.

 

How many players are there on tour? 125 at any given time right?

 

How many people participate in the Long Drive Circuit? How many guys on the Web and lower tours do you think are as long or longer than the PGA guys?

 

At the bottom of the main forum page it says that GolfWRX has 249,000+ members. We even have a section that's dedicated to long drive guys.

 

 

I thought everyone was saying the ball goes too far and that we can "buy distance" at the store now??

[Hjosh7_]

I don't really have anything new to add to the thread, but as a sort of "math nerd," I really love that this poll turned into a near perfect normal distribution (bell curve).

 

 

 

P.S. I chose 240-260 as I am confident I could carry something at 240 if I need to.