Maltby DBM/MMB/TE Forged Question

[S.A. OSO]

I wish Golfworks had a demo program, like you pay $X and they send you a 7-iron built standard with steel shaft, then you had 30 days to try it and send it back and get a portion of the $X applied to a full set if you purchase. If you didn't send it back in time you then get charged the full price of that iron. That way you could at least see the heads in hand and on the course a bit before you somewhat-blindly buy a set of irons that won't have a whole lot of resale value if they don't work.

 

I thought I saw something about a return policy, but don't remember it and whether it had a provision in here about clubs that have been built and hit

 

I found this on their website....I think you could try 7 iron like the you wanted this way.

 

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[Minarets]

PTM Black have been ordered.

[Gdashoff]

PTM Black have been ordered.

 

What shafts are you going with? My MMB 6 iron with MPF Iron shaft is coming in today, regretting the purchase of 24hr cure epoxy.....

[Brescia1016]

Not trying to thread jack, however...

 

Anyone know if the black finish can be stripped off to a raw finish in the same process the black vokey's have been done in other threads? I have the M-Series wedge and want to remove the paint fill and stripe to raw if possible.

[games]

Not trying to thread jack, however...

 

Anyone know if the black finish can be stripped off to a raw finish in the same process the black vokey's have been done in other threads? I have the M-Series wedge and want to remove the paint fill and stripe to raw if possible.

 

I was trying to remove some rust spots from an MG grind wedge with the DBM finish. I used some Barkeepers Friend and while it did catch the rust, it definitely lightened the finish to more gray. Have to believe it could be done with harsher chemicals or solvents.

[Gdashoff]

Not trying to thread jack, however...

 

Anyone know if the black finish can be stripped off to a raw finish in the same process the black vokey's have been done in other threads? I have the M-Series wedge and want to remove the paint fill and stripe to raw if possible.

 

I doubt it as it is more durable than chrome finishes. I know you can grind it off, I was trying to grind off 30 grams to make a single length SW but that's a little different....

 

The 6th article compares the finishes hardness.

https://www.golfworks.com/articles-editorials/a/197/

[Bad9]

It's too bad GW won't offer the MMB Black as single heads vs the 4-GW set. I would like to buy 8,9,P,G in the MMB and 5,6,7 in the DBM

[Minarets]

PTM Black have been ordered.

 

What shafts are you going with? My MMB 6 iron with MPF Iron shaft is coming in today, regretting the purchase of 24hr cure epoxy.....

 

Xcaliber tour x shafts.

[Francois]

So the DBM 4-GW and MG Tour Grind wedges finally arrived. Have not had a chance to test drive them but they look very similar in shape and size to my Nike VPCs. A touch longer blade length but overall very close. The constant offset does make the longer irons look very intimidating though.

[Gdashoff]

It's too bad GW won't offer the MMB Black as single heads vs the 4-GW set. I would like to buy 8,9,P,G in the MMB and 5,6,7 in the DBM.

 

Give them a call, they might be able to help you out. I talked to them a few days ago and they'll sub shafts/grips in the club paks even though they say their set on their website. Heads are a little different but who knows.

[Bad9]

It's too bad GW won't offer the MMB Black as single heads vs the 4-GW set. I would like to buy 8,9,P,G in the MMB and 5,6,7 in the DBM.

 

Give them a call, they might be able to help you out. I talked to them a few days ago and they'll sub shafts/grips in the club paks even though they say their set on their website. Heads are a little different but who knows.

 

I did ask them and they told me they won't offer them separately.

[ohioglfr]

It's too bad GW won't offer the MMB Black as single heads vs the 4-GW set. I would like to buy 8,9,P,G in the MMB and 5,6,7 in the DBM

Ditto the PTM's . . .

[Minarets]

Gotta decide if i want to go with the Maltby wedges or spend lots more on the Ping Stealth ones.

 

I currently game the original glides and love them. But I think my OCD will kick in with the PTM in the bag and have chrome Glides in the bag. The stealth are $140 ea. Think I can get 2 maltbys for that price. Which Maltby wedge is best? They have 2 types.

[Gdashoff]

Gotta decide if i want to go with the Maltby wedges or spend lots more on the Ping Stealth ones.

 

I currently game the original glides and love them. But I think my OCD will kick in with the PTM in the bag and have chrome Glides in the bag. The stealth are $140 ea. Think I can get 2 maltbys for that price. Which Maltby wedge is best? They have 2 types.

 

I think they are the same. It just depends if the tour versions have the lofts you want or you want the different sole widths for the course you play. I'm going to go with the M+ as I want to test out a 62*. Plus if you ever want to test another loft or sole width you can get another head cheap while keeping everything uniform.

 

[DFinch]

Gotta decide if i want to go with the Maltby wedges or spend lots more on the Ping Stealth ones.

 

I currently game the original glides and love them. But I think my OCD will kick in with the PTM in the bag and have chrome Glides in the bag. The stealth are $140 ea. Think I can get 2 maltbys for that price. Which Maltby wedge is best? They have 2 types.

 

The new Cobra black wedges use the same DBM finish as the Maltby irons, so there's that to consider.

[AZstu324]

Hey folks I'm back! I received my DBM's yesterday.. oh my.. They are stunning!! Here's my setup (pics on the way) DBM 4-GW, Nippon N.S. 950GH shaft, Std. blue Pure Pro grips (+2 wraps + 2/3 bottom up + 2 lower hand wraps). KE4 Tour 3H + black Pure Wrap. First off, all of my worries about sole width and toe length have been quietly put to rest. While they are a tad long in the toe, they're just on the longer side of the bladed category iron and that’s nothing to take issue with. I'm pretty sure I tested some blades at PGATSS that were just as long but thicker on the top and not nearly as attractive at address. Hitting them, I felt like I was in a Ginsu knife infomercial.. It just moved through the ball and grass like a hot knife through butter.. but providing just enough feedback when needed. I had a few thin mishits that still found the sky but were right down the pipe and were completely playable shots. A toe shot here and a heal shot there.. but nothing that just seemed to put the ball out of play. (the real test will be at the course this weekend)

 

Now one thing that I completely took a gamble on that I feel paid off was to have the 6, 5, 4, and 3h cut to -.25 while the 7-GW were +.25 to meet my height specs (6' 2"). My 6 and 7 are the exact same length. My logic: +/- .25" is pretty negligible when it comes to swing weight change so I wasn't too worried about the feel but I did have my reservations about proper gapping. I was able to slip away to the range at lunch just to cycle through the lineup and get some playing feedback. I will tell you this.. whether it was in my head or actually physically made a difference, I had absolutely no issues hitting the 4, 5, and 6. And I could tell that the gapping still seemed to be good. I was bouncing back and forth between my 7 and 6 to see if the same length would cause an issue and they seemed to be gapped right where they should be. With the longer irons -.25 from standard and the shorter irons +.25, technically speaking, my longer irons are .5” shorter relative to the set so that’s a bit of a difference when it comes to adding a little extra control and keeping swing weights somewhat in-tact. I'm going to PGATSS this evening to run through all of the clubs to get yardage and gapping so hopefully this will hold true. I was worried coming from a GI Single Length set that only went to 5i and having a 4h to cover the difference that I would have a couple of clubs that I wouldn't enjoy hitting. No way Jose'!! Every club felt comfortable and not too long or too short.

 

Now let’s talk about that Hybrid.. The KE4 Tour 3h may soon become my new favorite club in the bag.. I just can’t let my Cobra King 60* know about it. The club felt a bit heavier than my previous 4h from another company.. but that thing moves the ball! I’m really excited to see what sort of numbers I can pull out of it tonight. I just hope it doesn’t go further than 240 or else I’ll have to throw my cobra 4w out of the bag. I was able to shape shots just as if it were an iron. The profile is pretty sleek and somewhat minimalist, and not overly hybrid/fairway wood looking. The flat black just fits right in with the irons too. I also opted for the Maltby house shaft (MPF Pro) rather than the Kuro Kage. The shaft is pretty killer looking with the flat black and chrome and red lettering and feels like I’m swinging a lightsaber with a hybrid at the end of it. Looks, feel, and sound are all 10’s with this club!

 

I’m going to be working on removing the white paint fill numbers and the MPF rating on the hosel (very unnecessary). I’ll be doing a metallic silver paint fill on the numbers. Once completed, I’ll provide my pics and comparisons with other “big-box” blade style clubs just to get some profile ideas. So far I’m 100% jacked about these clubs and feel that I ended up with exactly what I was after.

 

Still interested to hear about the PTM and MMB’s so let’s keep this thread alive! :)

[The Sheepdog]

Right on man, glad you're stoked with the new irons. That KE4 hybrid is awesome as well - looks so good. Can't wait to see some pics. What irons are these replacing? How did the distances compare?

[AZstu324]

Paint fill completed. I may need to get a better close up. Also removed the paint from the PF 701+.. Nobody needs to know about that. Once the Mrs gets home and tags my hand to take over the kids, I'm off to PGATSS.

[Gdashoff]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

[AZstu324]

Right on man, glad you're stoked with the new irons. That KE4 hybrid is awesome as well - looks so good. Can't wait to see some pics. What irons are these replacing? How did the distances compare?

 

So after spending about 2 hours at the launch monitor last night, I actually found that my yardage was nearly identical to my previous GI set. Once I was warmed up and was in a nice groove with the clubs, I was hitting past my previous yardages. My former clubs were also 4* stronger. I would imagine that the lighter shafts and smaller heads are helping me pick up some swing speed to help pick up the extra yardage. The clubs that I previously played are these http://gigagolf.com/...m=MI-GGTM20-SET Gigagolf is somewhat similar to Maltby/Golfworks. They kind of fall on the Pinemeadow side of component clubs where they primarily build the clubs but let you customize the build as where Maltby primarily supplies builders with the components and has the option to build your set if desired. Gigagolf has some pretty solid stuff.. but I'm just learning that Maltby is just more ahead of the curve with a lot of their products.

 

Here are my yardages and gappings. 10 yds between most and 15 yds between a couple. My 3h is the biggest jump but that's flat out. If I make a 3/4 swing, I was hitting 210 on the nose every time. The flight of these clubs is high-ish but not overkill. My previous clubs were too high with low spin and I relied more on descent rather than spin to control the stop.. I had a lot of bouncing off the green (common here in AZ). Spin rates are up on all of the clubs but are right were I think they should be. Much more spin on the longer irons without ballooning which I think will be helpful for longer approach shots.

 

GW - 120

PW - 135

9 - 145

8 - 160

7 - 170

6 - 180

5 - 190

4 - 200

3h - 220

 

Final note.. all of these clubs are just so ridiculously consistent and fun to hit. After about 30 shots with each club, I just had a solid multi-colored line going to the green with no really bad shots to note. I've now got a slight baby fade.. which I can totally deal with and not a pull hook due to massive offset like my previous GI's. This is talking about the entire lineup.. not just the shorter clubs.

[AZstu324]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

That's some nice use of the baby changing table there :P Please do report on the Maltby iron graphite shaft. Looking at the specs and write-up.. it looks like they may be in the same ballpark UST Recoils.? at 85g mid/high flight, I could possibly consider putting them on my 4-6.. and would look pretty killer with the DBM finish.

[golfnhack]

I have my Black PTM's in play. I have a question though. I know they are forged. I currently have head covers on them. If I remove the head covers, how easily will they pick up bag chatter? I am not apposed to continuing to use head covers. I don't personally care what people think about using them. However, I would remove them if the PTM's don't ding easily.

[Gdashoff]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

That's some nice use of the baby changing table there :P Please do report on the Maltby iron graphite shaft. Looking at the specs and write-up.. it looks like they may be in the same ballpark UST Recoils.? at 85g mid/high flight, I could possibly consider putting them on my 4-6.. and would look pretty killer with the DBM finish.

 

The bathroom is the only heated room in the barn so that seemed like a convenient place :) I've only ever hit heavy steel shafts so I can't compare it to recoils, main reason I got the test iron is I wanted these shafts in the full MMB black set. I'll still let you know how they feel.

[AZstu324]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

That's some nice use of the baby changing table there :P Please do report on the Maltby iron graphite shaft. Looking at the specs and write-up.. it looks like they may be in the same ballpark UST Recoils.? at 85g mid/high flight, I could possibly consider putting them on my 4-6.. and would look pretty killer with the DBM finish.

 

The bathroom is the only heated room in the barn so that seemed like a convenient place :) I've only ever hit heavy steel shafts so I can't compare it to recoils, main reason I got the test iron is I wanted these shafts in the full MMB black set. I'll still let you know how they feel.

yeah that would be a killer looking setup for sure! I didn't know much about the recoils either until the guy at PGATSS set one up for me on a TM P770. It felt awesome and had all of the flight characteristics of a mid/high steel shaft.. And not whippy and soft like you'd think a graphite would be. I think it was in the 85-90 g range. I guess newer tech is allowing companies to blend the best of both worlds these days. I opted for the Nippon NS 950s because I just didn't know much about the recoils when I put my set together.. And I probably wouldn't have even paid any attention knowing they were graphite.

[Minarets]

I’m going 95g graphite (steel woven fibers” to be exact. First time for me. Hoping it helps the tennis elbow issues.

[rgk5]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

 

A great looking iron but why use the ugly O-Ring as opposed to a ferrule?

[Minarets]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

Want to hear how you like that shaft.

[TNGolfer8]

Hey folks I'm back! I received my DBM's yesterday.. oh my.. They are stunning!! Here's my setup (pics on the way) DBM 4-GW, Nippon N.S. 950GH shaft, Std. blue Pure Pro grips (+2 wraps + 2/3 bottom up + 2 lower hand wraps). KE4 Tour 3H + black Pure Wrap. First off, all of my worries about sole width and toe length have been quietly put to rest. While they are a tad long in the toe, they're just on the longer side of the bladed category iron and that’s nothing to take issue with. I'm pretty sure I tested some blades at PGATSS that were just as long but thicker on the top and not nearly as attractive at address. Hitting them, I felt like I was in a Ginsu knife infomercial.. It just moved through the ball and grass like a hot knife through butter.. but providing just enough feedback when needed. I had a few thin mishits that still found the sky but were right down the pipe and were completely playable shots. A toe shot here and a heal shot there.. but nothing that just seemed to put the ball out of play. (the real test will be at the course this weekend)

 

Now one thing that I completely took a gamble on that I feel paid off was to have the 6, 5, 4, and 3h cut to -.25 while the 7-GW were +.25 to meet my height specs (6' 2"). My 6 and 7 are the exact same length. My logic: +/- .25" is pretty negligible when it comes to swing weight change so I wasn't too worried about the feel but I did have my reservations about proper gapping. I was able to slip away to the range at lunch just to cycle through the lineup and get some playing feedback. I will tell you this.. whether it was in my head or actually physically made a difference, I had absolutely no issues hitting the 4, 5, and 6. And I could tell that the gapping still seemed to be good. I was bouncing back and forth between my 7 and 6 to see if the same length would cause an issue and they seemed to be gapped right where they should be. With the longer irons -.25 from standard and the shorter irons +.25, technically speaking, my longer irons are .5” shorter relative to the set so that’s a bit of a difference when it comes to adding a little extra control and keeping swing weights somewhat in-tact. I'm going to PGATSS this evening to run through all of the clubs to get yardage and gapping so hopefully this will hold true. I was worried coming from a GI Single Length set that only went to 5i and having a 4h to cover the difference that I would have a couple of clubs that I wouldn't enjoy hitting. No way Jose'!! Every club felt comfortable and not too long or too short.

 

Now let’s talk about that Hybrid.. The KE4 Tour 3h may soon become my new favorite club in the bag.. I just can’t let my Cobra King 60* know about it. The club felt a bit heavier than my previous 4h from another company.. but that thing moves the ball! I’m really excited to see what sort of numbers I can pull out of it tonight. I just hope it doesn’t go further than 240 or else I’ll have to throw my cobra 4w out of the bag. I was able to shape shots just as if it were an iron. The profile is pretty sleek and somewhat minimalist, and not overly hybrid/fairway wood looking. The flat black just fits right in with the irons too. I also opted for the Maltby house shaft (MPF Pro) rather than the Kuro Kage. The shaft is pretty killer looking with the flat black and chrome and red lettering and feels like I’m swinging a lightsaber with a hybrid at the end of it. Looks, feel, and sound are all 10’s with this club!

 

I’m going to be working on removing the white paint fill numbers and the MPF rating on the hosel (very unnecessary). I’ll be doing a metallic silver paint fill on the numbers. Once completed, I’ll provide my pics and comparisons with other “big-box” blade style clubs just to get some profile ideas. So far I’m 100% jacked about these clubs and feel that I ended up with exactly what I was after.

 

Still interested to hear about the PTM and MMB’s so let’s keep this thread alive! :)

The clubs look great! (saw the pictures below), and I"m glad you like the hybrid. Maltby shafts are VERY underrated! I use 4 of them in the two hybrids and two fairway woods that I have and I have been impressed with the performance.

[Gdashoff]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

 

A great looking iron but why use the ugly O-Ring as opposed to a ferrule?

 

I couldn't decide, the shaft is matte black and the MMB will be too so wasn't sure I liked the glossy ferrules. I kinda liked the industrial look of the o-ring, we'll see if I still like it once I get it to the range.

[AZstu324]

Got my chrome 6 mmb iron in and it looks awesome. Got the MPF shaft and have to agree with AZstu that it looks awesome. Have it glued up and just have to wait 24hrs... What moron buys 24hr epoxy?

 

A great looking iron but why use the ugly O-Ring as opposed to a ferrule?

 

I couldn't decide, the shaft is matte black and the MMB will be too so wasn't sure I liked the glossy ferrules. I kinda liked the industrial look of the o-ring, we'll see if I still like it once I get it to the range.

here is the ferrule that I went with. You couldn't really see it in the other pics. I think it's the shortest ferrule other than the o-ring style. This would definitely look better in all black.