Pacing off yardage is not accurate.

[Pepperturbo]

> @aliikane said:

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> There is an article by a pro instructor about how to judge wind direction by throwing grass in the air. Lmao. However digging deeper, there is a lot of technicalities to judge distance of the wind by throwing grass in the air. How to judge the yardage adjustment based on how the grass reacts in the wind. It is not just wind direction. So yeah, there could be some article by the pro golfers/pro instructors about that.

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> Also, there are a ton of instructional videos and articles by pro instructors with much more inane things like, "How to mark your golf ball" or "How to organize your golf bag" or "How to clean your golf clubs" or "How to clean your golf shoes" or "Detect wind direction (throwing grass)" LOL, but still surprises me there no discussion conversions of yardage by the pros or pro instructors. **I still think the majority of golfers take for granted one step equals one yard **or doesn't care about the difference, but a few yards does make a difference. Could be the difference in knocking it stiff to a tucked pin or going in the hazard or bunker.

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Don't think too many of those exist. However, I agree with the average golfer not caring about a few yards. Average Joe isn't that precise, to begin with, much less know carry/cover yardages of each club. They just hope to hit the green, anywhere. Course I play to a low single and hope too. LOL I can count at least five friends that pull clubs for a shot based on yardages from ten years back. They thought back then and still, yardages are yardages to... So, yes, the ball falls short, kerplunk into a hazard, and next, we see a perplexed look wondering, "how could that be." Assuming one step equals a yard when it's 8" +/- short isn't going to change their approach to golf. Have a good day.

[aliikane]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

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> Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

 

 

 

Many bartenders do use shot measuring cups to pour drinks. Sounds like you come from the Acasio Cortez school of thought. Lol.

 

Seriously, what about pro tour players? They are not allowed to be as accurate as amateurs. You can't nearly as accurate as a rangefinder pacing off yardage. Pro tour players should be allowed to use rangefinders.

[ThinkingPlus]

> @aliikane said:

> > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

> >

> > Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

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>

>

> Many bartenders do use shot measuring cups to pour drinks. Sounds like you come from the Acasio Cortez school of thought. Lol.

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> Seriously, what about pro tour players? They are not allowed to be as accurate as amateurs. You can't nearly as accurate as a rangefinder pacing off yardage. Pro tour players should be allowed to use rangefinders.

 

Well of course they are as accurate. Caddies build yardage books with the use of rangefinders. It is literally their job to be able to pace between yardage book measurement points to within a yard or better. Caddies unable to do this become bartenders.

[dlygrisse]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

>

> Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

I recommend drinking at places where the bartenders don’t use jiggers. Most tend to “long stride” their pours if you know what I mean.

 

[LyinEye]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @"jim rockford" said:

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> > here's a side question: how close in do people use range finders?

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> I use it on the putting green, anything outside 20ft really. Don't you?

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Is this a serious reply, do you actually use a range finder on a green.

[Krt22]

> @"Ping's Duck" said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > > @"jim rockford" said:

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> > >

> > > here's a side question: how close in do people use range finders?

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> > I use it on the putting green, anything outside 20ft really. Don't you?

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> Is this a serious reply, do you actually use a range finder on a green.

 

This is a troll thread, I was just going with the flow lol

 

[aliikane]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @aliikane said:

> > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

> > >

> > > Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

> >

> >

> >

> > Many bartenders do use shot measuring cups to pour drinks. Sounds like you come from the Acasio Cortez school of thought. Lol.

> >

> > Seriously, what about pro tour players? They are not allowed to be as accurate as amateurs. You can't nearly as accurate as a rangefinder pacing off yardage. Pro tour players should be allowed to use rangefinders.

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> Well of course they are as accurate. Caddies build yardage books with the use of rangefinders. It is literally their job to be able to pace between yardage book measurement points to within a yard or better. Caddies unable to do this become bartenders.

 

 

 

Then why are pros always debating with their caddies if they got the right yardage. Haha.

[ThinkingPlus]

> @aliikane said:

> > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > @aliikane said:

> > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

> > > >

> > > > Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Many bartenders do use shot measuring cups to pour drinks. Sounds like you come from the Acasio Cortez school of thought. Lol.

> > >

> > > Seriously, what about pro tour players? They are not allowed to be as accurate as amateurs. You can't nearly as accurate as a rangefinder pacing off yardage. Pro tour players should be allowed to use rangefinders.

> >

> > Well of course they are as accurate. Caddies build yardage books with the use of rangefinders. It is literally their job to be able to pace between yardage book measurement points to within a yard or better. Caddies unable to do this become bartenders.

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> Then why are pros always debating with their caddies if they got the right yardage. Haha.

 

They are debating effective yardage if at all. The actual distance to the pin is only the beginning of what goes into determining how far they try to hit any given shot. Wind direction and speed play important roles as well as temperature and firmness of the green. They also have to consider the club they are hitting and how much spin they will likely get. All this gets rolled up to a number (effective distance they try to hit the ball) with the chosen club.

[aliikane]

> @ThinkingPlus said:

> > @aliikane said:

> > > @ThinkingPlus said:

> > > > @aliikane said:

> > > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > > And what about those bartenders? Short pour, long pour - they aren't using metrically marked beakers for heaven's sake, this has been going on for centuries, how are we amateurs supposed to survive?

> > > > >

> > > > > Edit: oops, I said I was done feeding this troll thread - guess I didn't say anything about drinking, lol.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Many bartenders do use shot measuring cups to pour drinks. Sounds like you come from the Acasio Cortez school of thought. Lol.

> > > >

> > > > Seriously, what about pro tour players? They are not allowed to be as accurate as amateurs. You can't nearly as accurate as a rangefinder pacing off yardage. Pro tour players should be allowed to use rangefinders.

> > >

> > > Well of course they are as accurate. Caddies build yardage books with the use of rangefinders. It is literally their job to be able to pace between yardage book measurement points to within a yard or better. Caddies unable to do this become bartenders.

> >

> >

> >

> > Then why are pros always debating with their caddies if they got the right yardage. Haha.

>

> They are debating effective yardage if at all. The actual distance to the pin is only the beginning of what goes into determining how far they try to hit any given shot. Wind direction and speed play important roles as well as temperature and firmness of the green. They also have to consider the club they are hitting and how much spin they will likely get. All this gets rolled up to a number (effective distance they try to hit the ball) with the chosen club.

 

 

Obviously, those factors (wind, check, spin, trajectory, shot shape, humidity, temperature, elevation, etc.) affects and gets figured in the yardage calculations. Sorry, but still can't convince me that pacing yardage is as accurate as a rangefinder (even by the best caddies and players), and that over time that accuracy of a rangefinder couldn't save them strokes. Cheers.