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e8c19cee302ebc965e8fadbe465157c8.jpgI'm dropping the hybrid for a driving iron. For countless rounds recently I have been inconsistently "hitting" my hybrid and dropping strokes because of it. No matter what type of swing, i'm hitting maybe 1/5 good shots with it. It ends up causing me strokes. Last weekend I didn't use it and shot a 74. This weekend I used it again and shot an 81. Yesterday on a much longer course I didn't use it and shot a 75.

Since getting my Ping i25's at the end of last season I have shot my lowest round to date (-1) 70, and fell in love with having a long iron game. My 4 iron is used from the tee, fairway, rough, etc. They are so easy to hit. I was looking at Ping crossovers when a good friend offered this Rapture 2 iron head. It will be here Friday and wont get to play with it until Saturday but I am looking forward to it.

Question for the group, should I shaft it with a graphite shaft I have from a hybrid that was in my bag for years that was my go to (head cracked) or should I shaft it with the Ping CFS shafts that I have in my irons? Confidence is the same with old cracked hybrid and current irons (could hit them from anywhere)?

Driver:    2021 Cobra Rad Speed Peacote 9* w Kuro Kage 60g Silver TiNi Dual-Core Shaft 

Fairway Woods: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14° 3 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22° 7 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

Irons:  2016 Nike Vapor Fly 4-AW   

 Wedges:  2017 Cleveland CBX 56°& 60°wedge              
Shafts:  Matrix Ozik Program F15 85S Graphite Shafts 4i - 60°

Grips:   Superstroke S-Tech + 2 Wraps
Putter:  Gamer -  2020 Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s Black w Superstroke Claw 1.0 grip at 35in.

             Backup - Custom Built Bastain Milled Prototype w Px 6.0 shaft and Lamkin Deep Etched Cord Grip at 33in.

                           Ball:  Taylor Made 21' Rocketballz            Bag:  Ogio Fuse Whiskey            Glove: MG Dyna-Grip Elite             Current Shoes: True Linkswear Motion phx

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hard to really say. If you want max distance then go with a graphite shaft (ive used tensei pro orange, la golf ozik black tie, and currently have GD Tour AD DI)..... For about a month last year I had the Srixon U85 with a Dynamic Gold Amt White x100 in it. The steel shaft was the most accurate and easiest to control for me. I just didnt like the chunkiness of the U85 head

 

overall most important thing is probably weight. the tour ad and TPO for me were 95g, ozik 105g, x100 118g .... combination of the 2, the ozik was the best shaft and mix for distance + control

TM Qi10 9* ... KBS TD Serape 60x

TM BRNR Mini 13.5 ... KBS TD Rainbow 70x

TM Qi10 Tour 6w... KBS TD Rainbow 80x

TM Qi10 Tour 4h... KBS Proto Hybrid 105 S+

Mizuno Pro 243 5 - P ... KBS TGI 110

TM MG4 50 S, 56 LB, 60 TW... KBS $-Taper 130x

Greyson x Bettinardi SS3 and QB6

 

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Thanks Joe. I am going to give the Matrix program H7.1 HD shaft a try first. This has been my go to hybrid shaft for many years until the Aldilla NV 105g S shaft that is in my current hybrid. The Matrix is a R flex tip trimmed for increased stiffness, etc. Its a tank. If it doesn't work out, i will likely just get a CFS shaft off of ebay and use that since it is the shaft I have in 4-LW of my i25's.

Driver:    2021 Cobra Rad Speed Peacote 9* w Kuro Kage 60g Silver TiNi Dual-Core Shaft 

Fairway Woods: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14° 3 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22° 7 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

Irons:  2016 Nike Vapor Fly 4-AW   

 Wedges:  2017 Cleveland CBX 56°& 60°wedge              
Shafts:  Matrix Ozik Program F15 85S Graphite Shafts 4i - 60°

Grips:   Superstroke S-Tech + 2 Wraps
Putter:  Gamer -  2020 Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s Black w Superstroke Claw 1.0 grip at 35in.

             Backup - Custom Built Bastain Milled Prototype w Px 6.0 shaft and Lamkin Deep Etched Cord Grip at 33in.

                           Ball:  Taylor Made 21' Rocketballz            Bag:  Ogio Fuse Whiskey            Glove: MG Dyna-Grip Elite             Current Shoes: True Linkswear Motion phx

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I'm in the same process. Currently have 15 clubs in the bag but I haven't pulled the hybrid once after I added a Titleist U500 3 iron. Just feel so much more comfortable with it and I don't have the big misses like I do with the hybrid.

Titleist TS2 driver & 3 wood
PXG 0317 hybrid
Srixon ZX5 irons
Vokey SM8 50F, 54S, 60S wedges
Scotty Cameron 009 Circle T putter
 

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i'd consider trying graphite first and if there are major control issues, you can go back to steel. But the graphite should give you a little more speed and increased launch to maximize distance.

PING G400 MAX 10*, Ventus Blue 6X

Cleveland HiBore XL 2 Wood - THE GOAT

Cobra F6 Baffler 17,5*, AD DI 8S

Cobra F7 Hybrid 21.5*, AD DI 95S

Srixon ZX5mk2 5, ZX7mk2 6-PW Modus 120x

50/54/60 Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore DG Spinner

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I found the Rapture DI easier to hit than the UDI at the time and gamed it with my i20s for 2 seasons. Great club, but it was primarily used off the tee and occasionally off the deck into par 5s.

What's In The Ping Moonlite:
Ping Rapture '14 13*
Ping Rapture DI 18*
Titleist 690.CB 4/6/8/PW
Vokey TVD 54*
Odyssey Tank V-Line

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p.s. I forgot that the Rapture D.I. has a .355 taper tip which is not the .370 of most all hybrid shafts and the options you mentioned won't work. Finding a .355 taper tip shaft to match the stock 39.75" length (D0 SW) was really tricky. I ended up custom ordering my Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap from UST who have an option to taper tip on request. The 83g shaft I choose was within a couple grams of the stock shaft.

The other option I considered was a Nippon N.S. Pro 850GH that comes in 39.5" #1 & 39" #2. I don't remember the hosel depth, but I think #2 is the right #.

 

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I ended up trying the Program shaft and did not like the feel at all. It is a high launch hybrid shaft but does not get the Rapture off the ground. Kick points seems all wrong. I ended up ordering the CFS steel shaft that is in in the rest of my i25s. It was a shaft pull at 37.75 inches which will match the 39.5 length after being put together. It was suppose to arrive yesterday but is "in transit" in the USPS network somewhere. I will update once I actually get it and put everything together.

Driver:    2021 Cobra Rad Speed Peacote 9* w Kuro Kage 60g Silver TiNi Dual-Core Shaft 

Fairway Woods: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14° 3 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22° 7 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

Irons:  2016 Nike Vapor Fly 4-AW   

 Wedges:  2017 Cleveland CBX 56°& 60°wedge              
Shafts:  Matrix Ozik Program F15 85S Graphite Shafts 4i - 60°

Grips:   Superstroke S-Tech + 2 Wraps
Putter:  Gamer -  2020 Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s Black w Superstroke Claw 1.0 grip at 35in.

             Backup - Custom Built Bastain Milled Prototype w Px 6.0 shaft and Lamkin Deep Etched Cord Grip at 33in.

                           Ball:  Taylor Made 21' Rocketballz            Bag:  Ogio Fuse Whiskey            Glove: MG Dyna-Grip Elite             Current Shoes: True Linkswear Motion phx

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regardless, I can toss an extender in it. no worries. I usually do under standard anyway

Driver:    2021 Cobra Rad Speed Peacote 9* w Kuro Kage 60g Silver TiNi Dual-Core Shaft 

Fairway Woods: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14° 3 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22° 7 Wood w Kuro Kage 65g Shaft tipped 1 inch

Irons:  2016 Nike Vapor Fly 4-AW   

 Wedges:  2017 Cleveland CBX 56°& 60°wedge              
Shafts:  Matrix Ozik Program F15 85S Graphite Shafts 4i - 60°

Grips:   Superstroke S-Tech + 2 Wraps
Putter:  Gamer -  2020 Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s Black w Superstroke Claw 1.0 grip at 35in.

             Backup - Custom Built Bastain Milled Prototype w Px 6.0 shaft and Lamkin Deep Etched Cord Grip at 33in.

                           Ball:  Taylor Made 21' Rocketballz            Bag:  Ogio Fuse Whiskey            Glove: MG Dyna-Grip Elite             Current Shoes: True Linkswear Motion phx

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