New Addition To The Bag

[rgk5]

This is a Ping Eye, not Eye 2, one iron. I just bought the standard black dot version on Monday for $25, a sentimental item that helped me qualify for the 1983 and 1984 Oklahoma Open when I lived in Edmond, Oklahoma. 16* of loft, ZZ Lite shaft, real ugly Ping Dylagrip.  I'll use it when it is too windy for the 5-wood and should get 180-190 out of it in contrast to the 210-220 I got back in 1983/1984.

 

The Eye had a short market life compared to the Eye 2.

 

[Forged Hack]

I think you’ll get more then 180 out of that beauty…my 88’ eye 2 2 iron is giving me a consistent 205 210 with a simple easy swing. Fwiw… 58 yr old.

Enjoy!

[Forged Hack]

New to me, Wilson 8813 with Red alignment dot. 

[elwhippy]

I reckon that has been added by a previous owner.

[Forged Hack]

I’m wondering about that too. As in why would someone go through the trouble? The limited research I did on 8813’s and 8802’s brought me to the conclusion that there were quite a few variations. The main difference between the two models were the 8813’s had a perpendicular sight line along the back of the blade and a few versions had no line but a red dot. As far as I can tell, the dot is slightly recessed and possibly an insert of some type? It did pass the unofficial nickel test. Older versions face height fit a nickel on its edges and remakes were taller. Maybe others can chime in.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Forged Hack
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[hammergolf]

On 12/8/2021 at 6:01 AM, rgk5 said:

This is a Ping Eye, not Eye 2, one iron. I just bought the standard black dot version on Monday for $25, a sentimental item that helped me qualify for the 1983 and 1984 Oklahoma Open when I lived in Edmond, Oklahoma. 16* of loft, ZZ Lite shaft, real ugly Ping Dylagrip.  I'll use it when it is too windy for the 5-wood and should get 180-190 out of it in contrast to the 210-220 I got back in 1983/1984.

 

The Eye had a short market life compared to the Eye 2.

 

Had a guy on our college golf team that could throw the ball on the tee box and rip his Ping Eye 1 iron about 250 on a string. The driving iron before driving irons were cool…

[hammergolf]

5 hours ago, Forged Hack said:

New to me, Wilson 8813 with Red alignment dot. 

Never seen an 8813 without the slight lines.. Cool!

[Stephen8802]

8813s with a dot instead of lines were made outside of the US. I have one with all red paint fill on the sole.

 

It is cool you have a dot 8813, but it is also a reverse stamp model, where the words read with the flat side up instead of the curved side up. I have yet to find something official, but the internet sources I have found indicated the reverse stamp is the 1965 version. So the order of Wilson putters in the 60s are the Arnold Palmer in 1962, the DBAP in 1963, the 8802 in 1964, the reverse stamp 8813 in 1965, then the 8813 345/355s in 1966 and a few years after. (The 8802 comes back in 1970 in  either a black chrome or black painted version).

[Forged Hack]

Thanks for that info. I did skim over a thread mentioning the “Overseas Market” may have been Japan? Either way, I’m complete with piecing together my Wilson rig. Line over Staff fluid feels, JP 1,3, 4 wood Persimmons, and this Red Dot 8813. Total spent was $235.00!

Thanks again.

[Stephen8802]

I was looking at 8813s on eBay and the dot versions were all from Great Britain. That is another data point that they were made in Scotland, as I've read before. I've also read that some were made in Australia. But, once again, I've read both true and crazy stuff on the web, so it is a hypothesis and not fact. I haven't seen any reference to Japan, but it certainly is plausible.

 

I like to think mine was made in Canada because of the all red paint fill, but I may be reaching with that guess. But since my grandfather was born in Halifax, I'm sticking with it. 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Stephen8802

[BIG STU]

16 minutes ago, Stephen8802 said:

I was looking at 8813s on eBay and the dot versions where all from Great Britain. That is another data point that they were made in Scotland, as I've read before. I've also read that some were made in Australia. But, once again, I've read both true and crazy stuff on the web, so it is a hypothesis and not fact. I haven't seen any reference to Japan, but it certainly is plausible.

 

I like to think mine was made in Canada because of the all red paint fill, but I may be reaching with that guess. But since my grandfather was born in Halifax, I'm sticking with it. 

As we say in the good old Southern USA=== Thats my story and were sticking to it--- cool by me

[Forged Hack]

5 hours ago, Stephen8802 said:

I was looking at 8813s on eBay and the dot versions were all from Great Britain. That is another data point that they were made in Scotland, as I've read before. I've also read that some were made in Australia. But, once again, I've read both true and crazy stuff on the web, so it is a hypothesis and not fact. I haven't seen any reference to Japan, but it certainly is plausible.

 

I like to think mine was made in Canada because of the all red paint fill, but I may be reaching with that guess. But since my grandfather was born in Halifax, I'm sticking with it. 

Question: Are your 8802’s roughly the same swing weight as the 8813’s? Took mine out for 18 today, love the no fuss blade look at address and it’s small size, but it’s definitely a light putter. Coming from my Ping Anser, I’m leaning towards adding some lead tape to it. 

[Stephen8802]

I’ll weigh them tomorrow and see.

 

If you like that style but want a heavier putter, one of my Old Master W802s is noticeably heavier than the 8802. Of my two W802s, the bright chrome version is similar to my 8802, but the satin version is heavier. The sole stampings are different too, but you can really see it in the finish. I don’t think Old Master made an 8813 version, which is too bad because my satin w802 is a great putter and as good as my ‘64 8802.

[Forged Hack]

Played 18 yesterday with the 8813. For whatever reason the swing weight wasn’t an issue after a few holes. I now need to deal with the glare coming off the backside from the sun. When it was overhead and off my right shoulder while putting, it presented a good deal of glare.

I can see how collections start…..a satin 8813/8802 version is now on my radar.

[Forged Hack]

On 12/12/2021 at 7:28 PM, Forged Hack said:

Question: Are your 8802’s roughly the same swing weight as the 8813’s? Took mine out for 18 today, love the no fuss blade look at address and it’s small size, but it’s definitely a light putter. Coming from my Ping Anser, I’m leaning towards adding some lead tape to it. 

After a bunch of rounds with the 8813 the swing weight is no longer an issue. I kinda got used to it and adapted. Similar to setting up with blades, I especially like it’s effect of making the ball seem larger next to it. 

[golfunderpar18]

Here is my 8813 I scooped from my dad.  I’m from Toronto and not sure of its history either but the site dot is original.  Used this a lot in the 80’s.  It’s as light as a feather though

[NRJyzr]

23 hours ago, golfunderpar18 said:

It’s as light as a feather though

 

It's one aspect I've noticed with the older blade putters.  Fortunately, it's fixable with assistance from the lead tape gods...   🙂

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by NRJyzr

[Forged Hack]

On 1/2/2022 at 12:44 PM, golfunderpar18 said:

Here is my 8813 I scooped from my dad.  I’m from Toronto and not sure of its history either but the site dot is original.  Used this a lot in the 80’s.  It’s as light as a feather though

Wow is that clean! I wish I could get all the dings out of mine.