2023 Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions (Jan 19 - 22)

[8602081]

15 hours ago, 18majors said:

 

 

 

Nelly needs to win to have any chances at all and both you and I know how difficult it is to win a tournament; Annika Sorenstam has a winning percentage of 23.7% and Tiger Woods 22.8%.

 

Nelly could win this week and could possibly be #1 next Monday; but like last year it could flip back to Lydia before Lydia tees off at Saudi Ladies International.

 

With the recent club change.   I would be impressed, if she place top 10 this week..

 

[Stooch]

14 minutes ago, postfold said:

 

I doubt that the gimmick bothers the players a great deal, they're used to pro-ams.

 

The best thing Mollie could do for this event is to put it somewhere else on the calendar, or at least surround it with another event or two.  I don't blame Asia-based members in particular one bit for not wanting to spend the money and take the time to fly to Florida for a one-off event with a mediocre prize pool.  Rationalize the schedule Mollie!

 

Yeah, I just caught some of golf today and they mention the schedule.  It seems the Top players aren't happy with the schedule and want a longer off season.  You're right the timing of this event isn't smart, there's basically a month off and then the Asian swing.  It actually worse for lower ranked players and those who just got their cards and wanna hit the ground running, they won't be starting play until March without sponsor exemptions.

[Argonne69]

2 minutes ago, Stooch said:

 

Yeah, I just caught some of golf today and they mention the schedule.  It seems the Top players aren't happy with the schedule and want a longer off season.  You're right the timing of this event isn't smart, there's basically a month off and then the Asian swing.  It actually worse for lower ranked players and those who just got their cards and wanna hit the ground running, they won't be starting play until March without sponsor exemptions.

 

I assume the availability of the course is the main factor, but there's really no reason not to hold off until mid-February. Two weeks before the Honda would be fine. 

 

[Argonne69]

25 minutes ago, 8602081 said:

 

With the recent club change.   I would be impressed, if she place top 10 this week..

 

 

I dunno. I know money is a big factor, but would a pro really switch out their entire bag if they weren't comfortable with the new sticks? It's not like Nelly was a lifelong Titleist player. I don't see an issue with the driver or woods. Irons may need an adjustment period. Wedges should be fine. 

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by Argonne69

[Stooch]

2 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

 

I dunno. I know money is a big factor, but would a pro really switch out their entire bag if they weren't comfortable with the new sticks? It's not like Nelly was a lifelong Titleist player. I don't see an issue with the driver or woods. Irons may need an adjustment period. Wedges should be fine. 

 

She's a pro, I doubt there will be big issues.  Brooke shaving 2 inches of her driver actually got her straighter lol.  I think if you see any issues, it will be with the dispersion of the misses.  I noticed after the change Brooke's misses where much worse.  So, I think Nelly and Brooke won't be much different than last season, but their misses could probably get them in more trouble than the misses with clubs they were used to.

[8602081]

Nice TV coverage along with streaming..

 

 

TV TIMES (all times Eastern)

Thursday, Jan. 19 – 12-3 p.m., Golf Channel

Friday, Jan. 20 – 12-3 p.m., Golf Channel

Saturday, Jan. 21 – 12-3 p.m., Golf Channel

Sunday, Jan. 22 – 2-5 p.m., NBC

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[Stooch]

Bless the internet, finally got my question answered it's the Stealth 2.  They have Brooke on TM website, nothing about what's in her bag.

 

 

[ChronicSlicer]

3 hours ago, Stooch said:

Bless the internet, finally got my question answered it's the Stealth 2.  They have Brooke on TM website, nothing about what's in her bag.

Oh man, she's likely to join up with the WRX 300yd club with that new Stealth2 in da bag 😉

Edited January 17, 2023 by ChronicSlicer

[Stooch]

2 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

Oh man, she's likely to join up with the WRX 300yd club with that new Stealth2 in da bag 😉

Back to 275 will work for me, but 275 is about WRX 300 lol

[ChronicSlicer]

4 hours ago, Stooch said:

She's a pro, I doubt there will be big issues.  

Plus, it's not like she literally just put them in the bag for the first time yesterday. You don't switch sticks unless you have tried out the offerings before you sign a new deal.

[ChronicSlicer]

3 minutes ago, Stooch said:

but 275 is about WRX 300 lol

Is it really...I say 255-260 with rollout..down hill.

[MagicClassic407]

6 hours ago, postfold said:

 

I doubt that the gimmick bothers the players a great deal, they're used to pro-ams.

 

The best thing Mollie could do for this event is to put it somewhere else on the calendar, or at least surround it with another event or two.  I don't blame Asia-based members in particular one bit for not wanting to spend the money and take the time to fly to Florida for a one-off event with a mediocre prize pool.  Rationalize the schedule Mollie!

Why not add LET winners since they're affiliated anyway? I'm sure those gals would appreciate an event in Florida a couple weeks before they get started. Linn Grant anyone? 

[JungleJimbo]

 The Celebrity List = almost 2x the number of LPGA pros... 

so "+1" on @MagicClassic407's suggestion w.r.t. LET winners? And/or any non-LPGA member Major winners?

 

(the Final Field/ Full-Listing = gets truncated when posted to this Forum... need to click the tweet Link to view the additional ~8 players not shown e.g. Blair O'Neal, Larry the Cable Guy, Mardy Fish, Larry Fitzgerald etc).

 

  

42 minutes ago, MagicClassic407 said:

Why not add LET winners since they're affiliated anyway? I'm sure those gals would appreciate an event in Florida a couple weeks before they get started. Linn Grant anyone? 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[Golf Dino]

47 minutes ago, MagicClassic407 said:

Why not add LET winners since they're affiliated anyway? I'm sure those gals would appreciate an event in Florida a couple weeks before they get started. Linn Grant anyone? 

 

 

Again, I think that they really can't add too many more players *if* they wish for this to remain a Pro-Am mixed event.  They're playing January and its still a very short day (even in Florida), and each group has at least one Am in some, two Ams.  So, more pro's would require more groups and more Ams -- and they currently sit with 31 groups already - starting on both the front and back nines.  

But, I like your idea @MagicClassic407 about allowing the LET winners to also sign up for the event, just do it on a seeded basis.

 

2023 HGVTOC - First-Round Groupings.pdf

Edited January 18, 2023 by Golf Dino

[JohnGibson]

Jessica won this in 2021 with a third round 60 and finished-24 surprising she's not playing. 

[JungleJimbo]

1 hour ago, Golf Dino said:

 

 

Again, I think that they really can't add too many more players *if* they wish for this to remain a Pro-Am mixed event.  They're playing January and its still a very short day (even in Florida), and each group has at least one Am in some, two Ams.  So, more pro's would require more groups and more Ams -- and they currently sit with 31 groups already - starting on both the front and back nines.  

But, I like your idea @MagicClassic407 about allowing the LET winners to also sign up for the event, just do it on a seeded basis.

 

The LPGA website is showing the not-yet-updated 2022(?) field, i.e. on the "Pairings" page? 

 

Guessing the LPGA website intern is still struggling to update the details.

 

https://www.lpga.com/tournaments/hilton-grand-vacations-tournament-of-champions/pairings 

 

..Edit: Needed to use VPN to see the full-field listing here. https://www.lpga.com/tournaments/hilton-grand-vacations-tournament-of-champions/tournament-entries 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[Holy Moses]

 

[Golf Dino]

 

Well there's another feather in the cap for Mollie. 🙄

[JohnGibson]

Jeremy Roenick lol NBC fired him a few years ago and he sued. 

Edited January 18, 2023 by JohnGibson
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[ChronicSlicer]

54 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

 

What a sh!t show. Any news on the idea of a Ladies LIV? 

 

[ChronicSlicer]

1 hour ago, Golf Dino said:

 

Well there's another feather in the cap for Mollie. 🙄

But she's secured so many new sponsors and raised the purses, it's worth getting dressed out of your trunk and peeing behind a tree, right?

[Stooch]

1 hour ago, Holy Moses said:

 

 

Doesn't sound like Mollie is making very many friends lol.

[Stooch]

4 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

What a sh!t show. Any news on the idea of a Ladies LIV? 

 

I was about to post, the LPGA better hope a ladies LIV doesn't show up lol

[JungleJimbo]

Just now, Stooch said:

 

Doesn't sound like Mollie is making very many friends lol.

 

1 minute ago, ChronicSlicer said:

But she's secured so many new sponsors and raised the purses, it's worth getting dressed out of your trunk and peeing behind a tree, right?

It's good that Beth-Ann reported this ... hopefully will lead to improved conditions for the LPGA players.

 

[ChronicSlicer]

1 hour ago, Golf Dino said:

 

 

Again, I think that they really can't add too many more players *if* they wish for this to remain a Pro-Am mixed event.  They're playing January and its still a very short day (even in Florida), and each group has at least one Am in some, two Ams.  So, more pro's would require more groups and more Ams -- and they currently sit with 31 groups already - starting on both the front and back nines.  

But, I like your idea @MagicClassic407 about allowing the LET winners to also sign up for the event, just do it on a seeded basis.

 

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Alfonso Ribeiro and DK...how many times we gonna see "the Carlton" in one day?

[ChronicSlicer]

2 hours ago, MagicClassic407 said:

Linn Grant anyone? 

Has the vaccination policy been scrapped to enter the US yet?

[Seamus_McDuff]

1 hour ago, JohnGibson said:

Jessica won this in 2021 with a third round 60 and finished-24 surprising she's not playing. 

Injured

 

14 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

Has the vaccination policy been scrapped to enter the US yet?

Nope

[JungleJimbo]

57 minutes ago, ChronicSlicer said:

Alfonso Ribeiro and DK...how many times we gonna see "the Carlton" in one day?

 

Has he done "the Carlton" dance during an LPGA tourney?

 

 

[18majors]

 

Not the best, but better than nothing:

 

 

[18majors]

Hope for a good tournament for both Brooke and Nelly!

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by 18majors