The Big Review – Titleist 910 D2 and D3 Drivers

[finalist]

[quote name='E - SF' timestamp='1289611918' post='2787836']
So what will spin less, an 8.5 adjusted up to 9.5, a 9.5 set on neutral, or a 10.5 adjusted down to 9.5?
[/quote]
Great question!

[tickyboy]

[quote name='E - SF' timestamp='1289611918' post='2787836']
So what will spin less, an 8.5 adjusted up to 9.5, a 9.5 set on neutral, or a 10.5 adjusted down to 9.5?
[/quote]

Technically they are .75 changes in loft, so an 8.5 to 9.25 or a 10.5 down to 9.75... so.... 8.5 to 9.25 should spin less, although it isn't quite 9.5!!


For those wondering about the kit, I wish I took a pic of it... nothing special, just weights stuck in a small holder. Was told retail would be approx. $30...

[finalist]

When lofts are adjusted this also moves everyother gram of weight throughout the head. Wouldn't that change the center of gravity?
For example taking an 8.5 head and adjusting the head to 9.25 seems like the tail end would lower which moves the CT lower than if it were a glued 9.25 designed head.
Propbably just over thinking things that I wouldn't even notice.

[2zlinks]

[quote name='finalist' timestamp='1289612833' post='2787858']
The review is well written but old info for us.

How's the impact sound? I'm curious what people are feeling at impact? Was it longer than all other drivers? How's the black finish holding up after some use - do tees scratch it off? What driver currently out does it remind you of? How much shaft tip does one need to use a favorite gamer shaft in this adapter to make it play 45"? At this point I'm looking for new personal experience info detailing performance and feel.
[/quote]

Only 5 questions per post. lol

[hurricanes7]

[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1289610390' post='2787804']
[quote name='RighttoLeft' timestamp='1289601275' post='2787580']
I played and loved the D, K, R, and liked the 909D2. It was almost as good as the club that inspired it (Cobra X Speed Pro S).

It will take a WOW! demo to prove to me that the 910D2 is more than the 909D2 with adjust-ability.

...and I am not a Titleist hater. I play Vokey wedges, just replaced the 762's with AP2 710's, and played Titleist drivers until the Cobra X Speed Pro series came along.
[/quote]

The Cobra Speed Pro S did not inspire the 909D2.
[/quote]

awesome review, great information. im buying one, i just dont know what shaft to get.
the review said something about side to side help and not being able to fix a 50 yard hook/slice more of 20 yards. can someone explain how you change the adjustability to help or fight a draw. what setting am i looking at?

[Dizz]

[quote name='hurricanes7' timestamp='1289615532' post='2787914']
[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1289610390' post='2787804']
[quote name='RighttoLeft' timestamp='1289601275' post='2787580']
I played and loved the D, K, R, and liked the 909D2. It was almost as good as the club that inspired it (Cobra X Speed Pro S).

It will take a WOW! demo to prove to me that the 910D2 is more than the 909D2 with adjust-ability.

...and I am not a Titleist hater. I play Vokey wedges, just replaced the 762's with AP2 710's, and played Titleist drivers until the Cobra X Speed Pro series came along.
[/quote]

The Cobra Speed Pro S did not inspire the 909D2.
[/quote]

awesome review, great information. im buying one, i just dont know what shaft to get.
the review said something about side to side help and not being able to fix a 50 yard hook/slice more of 20 yards. can someone explain how you change the adjustability to help or fight a draw. what setting am i looking at?
[/quote]

You would change ball flight with the lie angle. When I hit everything at the fitting center they explained how the lie angle on woods (even teed up) changes the flight down the range. If you add and decrease loft it will also change side spin.

[Neil68]

Great review. Only problem is I bought an r9 2 months ago

[Twohey]

Thanks for the review! The ability to change loft independent of lie or face angle is the biggest selling factor for me. As a LH, this is especially appealing since low loft options are often limited.

Does anyone know how easy it will be to change shafts after the fact, or whether Titleist will make extra sleeves available?

[Big Ben]

[quote name='in the red' timestamp='1289573167' post='2786971']
[quote name='puttingmatt' timestamp='1289571076' post='2786924']
The rear weight is also directly behind the centre of the club face so you get the most out of a pure contact and is adjustable with options 2g, 5g, 7g, 9g, 12g. weights allowing precise swingweight and feel preference.


What does this mean ? Will I be able to change the weight, or is this
a factory weight that I request ??
[/quote]

Stock, the weight will depend on the shaft. However, as opposed to in the past, a weight kit will be available for further tweaking. When I get some pics and pricing on the kit, I'll post it up.
[/quote]
Excellent, I play my drivers at 44.5' and this helps a ton! I think Titleist got this lineup right in many ways, I'm a long time Titty fan but haven't gamed a driver since 905R, eagerly wainting for my 910 D3....BB

[Ringer1]

Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.

[dmbao]

I should have my D3 next week. Haven't been excited about getting a club in a long time.

Dan

[scottishniall]

I tried out the D3 recently. I didn't feel it out-performed my 909D2 that much. Launch in the 910's seems to be slightly higher and maybe I gained 3-4 yards. Not sure if it's enough for me to part with my cash.

Having said that, I was amazed at the difference in ball flights you could get by playing about with the hosel. Wish they could have put that on the 909 or even better, the 905r. Never mind I guess.

[mosesgolf]

[quote name='Ringer1' timestamp='1289661116' post='2788424']
Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.
[/quote]
How did you order yours 1.5* open? I thought the face angles were not adjustable? Can you special order them more open? They come .5* open stock and not adjustable at all other than the loft and lie angle?

[High Plains Driver]

[quote name='Dizz' timestamp='1289610390' post='2787804']
[quote name='RighttoLeft' timestamp='1289601275' post='2787580']
I played and loved the D, K, R, and liked the 909D2. It was almost as good as the club that inspired it (Cobra X Speed Pro S).

It will take a WOW! demo to prove to me that the 910D2 is more than the 909D2 with adjust-ability.

...and I am not a Titleist hater. I play Vokey wedges, just replaced the 762's with AP2 710's, and played Titleist drivers until the Cobra X Speed Pro series came along.
[/quote]

The Cobra Speed Pro S did not inspire the 909D2.
[/quote]

The 905R was a shallow faced, pear shaped, 460 cc, bore through driver.

Then came the Cobra X Speed series, with the 'S' being a 460cc, shallow faced, pear shaped driver with a milled rhombus shaped (rear) face, weight screw in the back and standard bore.

Later the 909D2 came out. The bore though was dropped, a rear weight screw was added (in a very similar position), featuring a milled trapezoidal (rear) face, in a 460cc, shallow faced, pear shaped package.

You can say the Cobra did not inspire the 909D2, but it sure looks like they took the better aspects of it to integrate into the D2.

[djlazer1]

sweet looking drivers but cant justify paying that much.

[bloodredsun]

[quote name='E - SF' timestamp='1289611918' post='2787836']
So what will spin less, an 8.5 adjusted up to 9.5, a 9.5 set on neutral, or a 10.5 adjusted down to 9.5?
[/quote]
I couldn't tell you. I only had one 9.5 head each of both types.

[quote name='finalist' timestamp='1289612833' post='2787858']
The review is well written but old info for us.

How's the impact sound? I'm curious what people are feeling at impact? Was it longer than all other drivers? How's the black finish holding up after some use - do tees scratch it off? What driver currently out does it remind you of? How much shaft tip does one need to use a favorite gamer shaft in this adapter to make it play 45"? At this point I'm looking for new personal experience info detailing performance and feel.
[/quote]
Impact sound is very good; solid feeling without being muted. It's still a good crack 'noise'.

The black finish holds up very well. If you haven't hit them, PVD is much more durable than a black oxide finish and while you do get tee marks (especially from white tees) there has been no appreciable wear on the club head.

It's difficult to compare with current drivers but there are certain elements of the SuperTri about them.

As for the rest of your questions, I think you will only get satisfactory answers by trying them out yourself.

[bjfed]

[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1289663000' post='2788456']
[quote name='Ringer1' timestamp='1289661116' post='2788424']
Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.
[/quote]
How did you order yours 1.5* open? I thought the face angles were not adjustable? Can you special order them more open? They come .5* open stock and not adjustable at all other than the loft and lie angle?
[/quote]

I second that question. Ive heard or read somewhere you can custom order the SFT hosel aligned with the shaft graphics the way you want it but they will allow you to order it more open as well?

[Mat905s]

[quote name='bjfed' timestamp='1289681704' post='2788807']
[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1289663000' post='2788456']
[quote name='Ringer1' timestamp='1289661116' post='2788424']
Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.
[/quote]
How did you order yours 1.5* open? I thought the face angles were not adjustable? Can you special order them more open? They come .5* open stock and not adjustable at all other than the loft and lie angle?
[/quote]

I second that question. Ive heard or read somewhere you can custom order the SFT hosel aligned with the shaft graphics the way you want it but they will allow you to order it more open as well?
[/quote]

You cant change the loft without changing the face angle with the technology that is on the market right now. Titleist big advantage is that you can change the loft and face angle indpendently of the lie angle you want.
Basically, Titleist head are 0.5* open on the standard loft setting. If you go with the 0.75* less loft option, you basically open the driver 1 degree meaning that the overall face angle is now 1.5* open.
I've ordered my shafts to be aligned on the 0.75 less loft setting but I'll see if it does that big a difference when I receive them... which is not suppose to be soon unfortunately

Math

[KevCarter]

[quote name='Mat905s' timestamp='1289686465' post='2788901']
[quote name='bjfed' timestamp='1289681704' post='2788807']
[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1289663000' post='2788456']
[quote name='Ringer1' timestamp='1289661116' post='2788424']
Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.
[/quote]
How did you order yours 1.5* open? I thought the face angles were not adjustable? Can you special order them more open? They come .5* open stock and not adjustable at all other than the loft and lie angle?
[/quote]

I second that question. Ive heard or read somewhere you can custom order the SFT hosel aligned with the shaft graphics the way you want it but they will allow you to order it more open as well?
[/quote]

You cant change the loft without changing the face angle with the technology that is on the market right now. Titleist big advantage is that you can change the loft and face angle indpendently of the lie angle you want.
Basically, Titleist head are 0.5* open on the standard loft setting. If you go with the 0.75* less loft option, you basically open the driver 1 degree meaning that the overall face angle is now 1.5* open.
I've ordered my shafts to be aligned on the 0.75 less loft setting but I'll see if it does that big a difference when I receive them... which is not suppose to be soon unfortunately

Math
[/quote]

I have a different understanding. Lie and face angle are tied together in Titlests system. Changing the loft does not change the face angle. I could certainly be wrong...

Kevin

[rgk5]

They are not going to fly off the shelves with a $100 increase in price, at least here in Canada. Retail will be $449 compared to $349 for the 909 models.

[OrangeCrush]

All the hate for the 907D2 amazes me. My Ozik Code 6/D2 combo has been a fantastic performer for me.

[Islander]

[quote name='kevcarter ' timestamp='1289694085' post='2789027']
[quote name='Mat905s' timestamp='1289686465' post='2788901']
[quote name='bjfed' timestamp='1289681704' post='2788807']
[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1289663000' post='2788456']
[quote name='Ringer1' timestamp='1289661116' post='2788424']
Just got fitted and ordered mine today. I went for a D3 9.5 degrees, set to 8.75 and 1.5 open, with the Titleist Diamana Ahina Stiff (WB replacement) at 44.5". The demo shafts are available at a shorter length, which is great for me as I like a shorter driver as my bad shot is out of the heel - but haven't previously demoed at this length. I have played lots of drivers in the last couple of years but notably a 909dcomp with matrix 9.5 (awful, way to high and spinny), 909d2 Grafalloy PL Red 8.5(solid), Ping i15 Axivcore Red 9.5 (long but punishing on bad shots) and Supertri tp Voodoo 8.5 (set to 7.5 on tp setting). I think that the D3 is very solid, not massively longer than any other driver, but plenty long enough, more forgiving than the i15, low spinning (which is great for me) and launching, similar feeling to the i15, but more forgiving IMO. I also tried the D2, but it went little to high, but is also very nice. The finish on the 910 range is similar to the i15 and I don't think that it will wear off in a hurry. As for shafts, I tried the Ahina at std length, the Ahina at 44.5", the RIP and PX. I felt that the RIP and Ahina were a little too much for me to handle and might be suited to faster swingers (my ss is around 105-107). I must stress that for someone of my ss there is nothing wrong with the made for shafts, my friend who plays off scratch has a 909d2 with made for BB and hits it miles! In conclusion it is not a massive difference from the 909, slightly more forgiving, better finish and adjustable, it will kick the Supertri TP of the bag which for me is too hih and spinny.
[/quote]
How did you order yours 1.5* open? I thought the face angles were not adjustable? Can you special order them more open? They come .5* open stock and not adjustable at all other than the loft and lie angle?
[/quote]

I second that question. Ive heard or read somewhere you can custom order the SFT hosel aligned with the shaft graphics the way you want it but they will allow you to order it more open as well?
[/quote]

You cant change the loft without changing the face angle with the technology that is on the market right now. Titleist big advantage is that you can change the loft and face angle indpendently of the lie angle you want.
Basically, Titleist head are 0.5* open on the standard loft setting. If you go with the 0.75* less loft option, you basically open the driver 1 degree meaning that the overall face angle is now 1.5* open.
I've ordered my shafts to be aligned on the 0.75 less loft setting but I'll see if it does that big a difference when I receive them... which is not suppose to be soon unfortunately

Math
[/quote]

I have a different understanding. Lie and face angle are tied together in Titlests system. Changing the loft does not change the face angle. I could certainly be wrong...

Kevin
[/quote]


There is some bad information floating around here....the face angle does change with loft adjustments.

A1 setting is .5 open....you can change the lie without changing the loft/face angle

I added .75 of loft to my D3 which makes it sit dead square in my eyes

[KevCarter]

[quote name='Islander' timestamp='1289756098' post='2789869']

There is some bad information floating around here....the face angle does change with loft adjustments.

A1 setting is .5 open....you can change the lie without changing the loft/face angle

I added .75 of loft to my D3 which makes it sit dead square in my eyes
[/quote]

Are you sure?

[attachment=683585:Titleist 910 Hosel Chart.jpg]

[Islander]

[quote name='kevcarter ' timestamp='1289764126' post='2790032']
[quote name='Islander' timestamp='1289756098' post='2789869']

There is some bad information floating around here....the face angle does change with loft adjustments.

A1 setting is .5 open....you can change the lie without changing the loft/face angle

I added .75 of loft to my D3 which makes it sit dead square in my eyes
[/quote]

Are you sure?

[attachment=683585:Titleist 910 Hosel Chart.jpg]
[/quote]


Yes...the face angle changes when loft is adjusted

The chart shows effective loft with a square face at impact

Check the chart on page 2

Or I can show you pictures of my driver in different settings

http://www.titleist.com/images/products/pdfs/910_drivers.pdf

[Dizz]

[quote name='rgk5' timestamp='1289700584' post='2789189']
They are not going to fly off the shelves with a $100 increase in price, at least here in Canada. Retail will be $449 compared to $349 for the 909 models.
[/quote]

The 909 retailed at $399 new, so does the 910.

[KevCarter]

[quote name='Islander' timestamp='1289765311' post='2790058']
[quote name='kevcarter ' timestamp='1289764126' post='2790032']
[quote name='Islander' timestamp='1289756098' post='2789869']

There is some bad information floating around here....the face angle does change with loft adjustments.

A1 setting is .5 open....you can change the lie without changing the loft/face angle

I added .75 of loft to my D3 which makes it sit dead square in my eyes
[/quote]

Are you sure?

[attachment=683585:Titleist 910 Hosel Chart.jpg]
[/quote]


Yes...the face angle changes when loft is adjusted

The chart shows effective loft with a square face at impact

Check the chart on page 2

Or I can show you pictures of my driver in different settings

http://www.titleist.com/images/products/pdfs/910_drivers.pdf
[/quote]

That's the chart I posted. Am I reading it incorrectly?

[Islander]

read under it....talks about effective loft (loft at impact) implying that face angle changes

On a side note...it really doesn't look all that closed in the draw settings. The black PVD finish really hides it I think

[moonshine]

I'm with spitz, and none of the others saying the review makes them want one! I need it compared, or better compare it myself before buying one. And, simply, I'm not paying extra for the weight kit. For that kind of cheese, it should come with it.

I'm not beating a horse, but my SD is straight up bombing the ball and I got it w/weights and not made for shaft....not that there is anything wrong with "made for" shafts.

[sjaclark]

These look fabulous, can wait til the are out in the UK to be tried...

By the way, noticed on the website that the FW woods wont be available til feb...why such a long wait?

[Laneo]

If anyone has any specific questions, I'm picking mine up tomorrow, custom fit for me, set up for the "D3" setting. PM me or post here if you'd like and I'll try to help. Like a previous user posted, I haven't been this excited in a long time for a new club, especially since I saw the TrackMan results in comparison to my previous driver, and the r9, VR, etc. and it just blew it out of the water, including what they claim it does, increase ball speed, and club head speed, thus creating distance and control.