No one at my club recognizes Japanese clubs!.!..!??!

[Tenngolfer]

[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1341448554' post='5218132']
I have been reading this thread since it started and find it all a bit amusing.........one of the terms that is wildly thrown around on WRX is [i][b]JDM[/b][/i].....obviously referring to Japanese made clubs. Well guys....JDM stands for [i][b]Japanese Domestic Market[/b][/i] and denotes items made exclusively for the the Japanese home market....in other words "Not for Export"
In the auto industry JDM cars are quite sought after in other markets because enthusiasts believe they have some sort of cache that is not perceived in USDM vehicles.
Almost all the Japanese clubs that guys are raving about on WRX as JDM are not that at all........they are Japanese made or designed but are USDM in every way....they are made for the US Domestic Market.......export items made for sale in the rest of the world.
Since the OP has a set of Miura TB irons, let's use Miura as an example.....If you have Hagane, Miuraism or Miura Giken clubs those ARE JDM....but all the "Miura" models (Including mine) are export models and thus are USDM.
A small point I know but still worth thinking about.
BTW....I have been playing Yonex and Miura clubs for the last 20+ years and all I would say about the OP's premise about whether they are known or not is that they seem to fall into two categories....those who recognize them and covet them....... and all the masses who have never heard of them or simply don't care. I was in Phoenix last fall on a golf trip and had a pro at one of the courses comment on my bag of Miuras......"Aren't those the cheap knock-offs made in Korea ?"
I don't see any special cache in any of these clubs....they are just a quality made golf club from another country. Oh and bye the way.......They are USDM!!
[/quote]

good point! I agree with you, and am just as guilty as everyone else with using the jdm label here. Getting everyone to change might be nigh impossible though. It seems that jdm is sort of the accepted terminology. Say the miura tourneys are marketed here and Japan, would that classify them both as USDM and JDM? It is a sincere question.

[FLOGMR]

IMHO...anything that is marketed world wide is not JDM.........if it was every Honda,Subaru,Toyota,Mazda,Suzuki,Yamaha etc etc etc etc is then a JDM product.
I had never heard the term used for golf equipment until I joined WRX..........it is really just Japanese made equipment that is manufactured for world wide consumption. I think the term JEM might be more appropriate......Japanese Export Market
JDM by definition is a product made solely for the Japanese domestic market, and there is some golf equipment that fits that description........but if you can buy it on the open market in Canada,USA,UK etc etc...then it is NOT JDM.

By my experience Japanese made golf equipment is well know through the golf world (In spite of some people not recognizing it) but it is not deemed to have any special cache except by a very small group of golf gear junkies and some collectors. It is just really well made golf gear....and tends to be on the pricey side compared to the mainstream equipment that is so heavily marketed by the OEM's in America.

True JDM golf clubs have a huge emotional appeal in Japan where they are often given as gifts by and to wealthy friends, clients, business associates.

[Thrillhouse]

[quote name='KYMAR' timestamp='1341411190' post='5215672']
couple things

Swisstrader is acting like an unhinged nutball in this thread. Insulting people while demanding an apology because others should be insulted is a Double face palm/epic fail.

The OP was clearly looking for some type of validation from strangers for his JDM bag and disappointed he didn't get it. The like minded Jdm fans are joining in suggesting that fishing for compliments was not his intent, because it's easier for them to feel that way about themselves when no one gives a damn about their gear either.

That is not to say that i am completely unsympathetic to the OP's plight. I wore my "I hate Thrillhouse" hat AND shirt last weekend and NOT ONE GUY commented on it. I was bitterly disappointed there. So i decided to go to the range and just help some people who clearly needed it.
[/quote]

ha ha. im on a t shirt! im immortal!

now get rid of the clown avatar! it frightens me.

[KYMAR]

[quote name='Thrillhouse' timestamp='1341467579' post='5219356']
[quote name='KYMAR' timestamp='1341411190' post='5215672']
couple things

Swisstrader is acting like an unhinged nutball in this thread. Insulting people while demanding an apology because others should be insulted is a Double face palm/epic fail.

The OP was clearly looking for some type of validation from strangers for his JDM bag and disappointed he didn't get it. The like minded Jdm fans are joining in suggesting that fishing for compliments was not his intent, because it's easier for them to feel that way about themselves when no one gives a damn about their gear either.

That is not to say that i am completely unsympathetic to the OP's plight. I wore my "I hate Thrillhouse" hat AND shirt last weekend and NOT ONE GUY commented on it. I was bitterly disappointed there. So i decided to go to the range and just help some people who clearly needed it.
[/quote]

ha ha. im on a t shirt! im immortal!

now get rid of the clown avatar! it frightens me.
[/quote]

I have the shirts and hats for sale if interested 1 for $15 or 2 for $40. Are you still going on about my avatar? OK I admit, Maybe it is time for a change, but the clown is in the Rota, as it were, so it will be seen again. (every time I hear the word avatar i find myself longing for Vins JLH collection. "can i come in?" Yes, yes you can)

[Vegaman]

[quote name='greens hit' timestamp='1341380792' post='5214844']
[quote name='Tenngolfer' timestamp='1341259140' post='5205696']
dont assume things.. I was not disappointed.. as I have said now for like the 6th time I was curious as to noone knowing about JDM was something unique to my area, or in general. The consensus is that it is a general thing that noone knows about JDM. I am quite content that noone knows about my JDM goodies and prefer it that way. I think I said that in my original post too.

I don't play clubs to impress others, I play what makes [u][b]ME[/b][/u] happy, and right now it is definitely JDM.. I don't see ithat changing anytime soon.

I do think alot of people are missing out because they only rely on mainstream media and advertising to tell them what clubs to play.. the majority of golfers miss out on a very good market of clubs because of it. Luckily the internet allows us access to information and products we would have never found out about if not for it.
[/quote]

Again, I'd really like to know what I'm missing out on. More technical the explanation the better.

This is a serious question.
[/quote]

Usually forged instead of cast, tighter tolerances (several JDM brands are pretty anal about exact weights and lofts and lies) top class finish, the best materials (even if it sometimes means the club becomes much more expensive with negliable differences in actual performance), usually JDM stuff is about great "feel" a certain expensive kind of Ti may be used for the forged face of a driver for example, just for the feel it gives and not because it make the ball go further.

Also, often a lot customization if you want it, lofts, weights, lie even finish is often up to you. Mizuno Yoro for example, loook it up.
Often you get the same level of quality that tour players get. If you buy a Makui Works driver head for example, the weight, lie, face angle, loft is totally up to you, and then it uses expensive forged DAT 55 Ti for the face. For irons, a lot of stuff is forged. Most OEMs we know about have a Japan only stuff that usually offers more expensive forged versions of the clubs we get in the US and Europe, this goes for TM, Titleist, Callaway, Mizuno, Cleveland etc etc. Callaway, TM and Titleist even have complete lines of clubs with models that aren't even offered at all in the US.
Titleist have the VG3 line which includes balls too besides driver, FW and irons. Also the Vokey forged wedges.
TM has the R11J, Gloire line, and white putters that are milled, all of which is not offered in the US.
Callaway has the Legacy and the Legacy Black series of clubs, forged, premium quality and expensive.
Mizuno has the Craft series driver very nice shoes, and balls too. the Mizuno Yoro custom iron program where you can choose between something like 8 or 9 different finishes, different offset (!), lie, loft, shafts, custom stamping on the heads with your name on it for example, or with deleted logos, logos in different places on the head etc etc.
Cleveland has been offering forged versions of their wedges in cool finishes for YEARS and now finally they offer a forged wedge for us western consumers.
Then you have bridgestones premium brand Tourstage with everything from drivers, FW, irons and putters to gloves, bags and many different kinds of balls.

So it's a bit misleading when people sometimes say that "well the OEMs are the biggest sellers in Japan too, so there obviously isn't anything special with JDM stuff"..Yeah, because they offer Japan only stuff that we can't buy.

On top of all this there are so many brands that are japan and Asia only that are really cutting edge and usually pricey.

For example, you sometimes read that an OEM brags about "thin walls giving us an extra 20 grams to put to good use in hte driver head". Well, the Ryoma driver can be ordered as light as 186 grams if I remember it correctly, and they have a weight pod in the back weighing 60 (!) grams, almost a third of the whole head. They shave the walls so thin that mass production is out of the question, but it does make it what most people that have tried it calls the most forgiving and straight driver in the world. They must probably stress test every head multiple times during production and probably have pretty high "fail" rate with heads that don't reach the market. This with exact lofts and premuim forged DAT 55 Ti in the face makes it expensive, needless to say. it actually costs 1000 dollars for only the head, and still they are probably back ordered. They have only recently offered a FW too, for a long time they only every produced drivers, so they are very specialised, another typical tendency in the JDM market.

Just a few examples

[Fourmyle of Ceres]

To put it uncharitably...

The idea seems to be that there are some extremely high-end, expensive, hard to get clubs with exquisitely fine tolerances and extreme customization available for certain Japanese manufacturers. Certainly not available via North American mass market distribution channels.

Therefore, if you have a bag full of clubs from obscure Japanese brands people will assume those must be extremely high-end, expensive, hard to get clubs with exquisitely fine tolerances and extreme customization.

[TJCDAS]

I have a set of Taylormade TP Japan, beautiful clubs but they are not forged in Japan. JDM not Japanese manufactured.

[dalehead]

[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1341491136' post='5219906']
Usually forged instead of cast, tighter tolerances (several JDM brands are pretty anal about exact weights and lofts and lies) top class finish, the best materials (even if it sometimes means the club becomes much more expensive with negliable differences in actual performance), usually JDM stuff is about great "feel" a certain expensive kind of Ti may be used for the forged face of a driver for example, just for the feel it gives and not because it make the ball go further.

Also, often a lot customization if you want it, lofts, weights, lie even finish is often up to you. Mizuno Yoro for example, loook it up.
Often you get the same level of quality that tour players get. If you buy a Makui Works driver head for example, the weight, lie, face angle, loft is totally up to you, and then it uses expensive forged DAT 55 Ti for the face. For irons, a lot of stuff is forged. Most OEMs we know about have a Japan only stuff that usually offers more expensive forged versions of the clubs we get in the US and Europe, this goes for TM, Titleist, Callaway, Mizuno, Cleveland etc etc. Callaway, TM and Titleist even have complete lines of clubs with models that aren't even offered at all in the US.
Titleist have the VG3 line which includes balls too besides driver, FW and irons. Also the Vokey forged wedges.
TM has the R11J, Gloire line, and white putters that are milled, all of which is not offered in the US.
Callaway has the Legacy and the Legacy Black series of clubs, forged, premium quality and expensive.
Mizuno has the Craft series driver very nice shoes, and balls too. the Mizuno Yoro custom iron program where you can choose between something like 8 or 9 different finishes, different offset (!), lie, loft, shafts, custom stamping on the heads with your name on it for example, or with deleted logos, logos in different places on the head etc etc.
Cleveland has been offering forged versions of their wedges in cool finishes for YEARS and now finally they offer a forged wedge for us western consumers.
Then you have bridgestones premium brand Tourstage with everything from drivers, FW, irons and putters to gloves, bags and many different kinds of balls.

So it's a bit misleading when people sometimes say that "well the OEMs are the biggest sellers in Japan too, so there obviously isn't anything special with JDM stuff"..Yeah, because they offer Japan only stuff that we can't buy.

On top of all this there are so many brands that are japan and Asia only that are really cutting edge and usually pricey.

For example, you sometimes read that an OEM brags about "thin walls giving us an extra 20 grams to put to good use in hte driver head". Well, the Ryoma driver can be ordered as light as 186 grams if I remember it correctly, and they have a weight pod in the back weighing 60 (!) grams, almost a third of the whole head. They shave the walls so thin that mass production is out of the question, but it does make it what most people that have tried it calls the most forgiving and straight driver in the world. They must probably stress test every head multiple times during production and probably have pretty high "fail" rate with heads that don't reach the market. This with exact lofts and premuim forged DAT 55 Ti in the face makes it expensive, needless to say. it actually costs 1000 dollars for only the head, and still they are probably back ordered. They have only recently offered a FW too, for a long time they only every produced drivers, so they are very specialised, another typical tendency in the JDM market.

Just a few examples
[/quote]

Thanks for the info. You seem quite knowledgable on the subject and I'm sure you provided some insights even to JDM aficianados.

While I admire the workmanship of JDM ( or as some are suggesting it be called JEM) equipment I haven't yet taken the plunge. Two reasons are I've been satisfied in finding domestic equipment that fits my game and the inability to try or even see in the flesh before I buy (I'm not lucky enough to have any friends with JDM to try).

On a slightly different note, what do you know about the Mizuno TN 87 irons? JDM? JEM? Something else?

[Vegaman]

[quote name='FLOGMR' timestamp='1341467006' post='5219330']
IMHO...anything that is marketed world wide is not JDM.........if it was every Honda,Subaru,Toyota,Mazda,Suzuki,Yamaha etc etc etc etc is then a JDM product.
I had never heard the term used for golf equipment until I joined WRX..........it is really just Japanese made equipment that is manufactured for world wide consumption. I think the term JEM might be more appropriate......Japanese Export Market
JDM by definition is a product made solely for the Japanese domestic market, and there is some golf equipment that fits that description........but if you can buy it on the open market in Canada,USA,UK etc etc...then it is NOT JDM.

By my experience Japanese made golf equipment is well know through the golf world (In spite of some people not recognizing it) but it is not deemed to have any special cache except by a very small group of golf gear junkies and some collectors. It is just really well made golf gear....and tends to be on the pricey side compared to the mainstream equipment that is so heavily marketed by the OEM's in America.

True JDM golf clubs have a huge emotional appeal in Japan where they are often given as gifts by and to wealthy friends, clients, business associates.
[/quote]

Yes, but marketed by whom? If the callaway legacy black line is sold via some websites to people in the US, are they then "not JDM"? To me, they are.
The USDM stuff is what you will find on the official US callaway website, stuff that have official channels of distribution. If there are "grey market" importers of JDM clubs then that does NOT make them USDM to me. You will not find TM gloire, R11J, Forged ATV wedges and milled putters on TMs US or international website. So, they are for sure JDM in the true sense. Same goes for Callaway legacy and legacy black, cleveland, mizuno yoro and craft and many more japanese brands. Some, like miura, have a JDM line, Miura Giken and an international line that is just called Miura. There are some japanese only models there, but largely you could say that Miura is doing the reverse thing from what the large OEMs are doing. Same for Fourteen and also Royal Collection that is starting to market themselves in the US.

[Pondy]

omg, this thread is still alive?

Fellas, life is short...

[Vegaman]

[quote name='dalehead' timestamp='1341504212' post='5221090']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1341491136' post='5219906']
Usually forged instead of cast, tighter tolerances (several JDM brands are pretty anal about exact weights and lofts and lies) top class finish, the best materials (even if it sometimes means the club becomes much more expensive with negliable differences in actual performance), usually JDM stuff is about great "feel" a certain expensive kind of Ti may be used for the forged face of a driver for example, just for the feel it gives and not because it make the ball go further.

Also, often a lot customization if you want it, lofts, weights, lie even finish is often up to you. Mizuno Yoro for example, loook it up.
Often you get the same level of quality that tour players get. If you buy a Makui Works driver head for example, the weight, lie, face angle, loft is totally up to you, and then it uses expensive forged DAT 55 Ti for the face. For irons, a lot of stuff is forged. Most OEMs we know about have a Japan only stuff that usually offers more expensive forged versions of the clubs we get in the US and Europe, this goes for TM, Titleist, Callaway, Mizuno, Cleveland etc etc. Callaway, TM and Titleist even have complete lines of clubs with models that aren't even offered at all in the US.
Titleist have the VG3 line which includes balls too besides driver, FW and irons. Also the Vokey forged wedges.
TM has the R11J, Gloire line, and white putters that are milled, all of which is not offered in the US.
Callaway has the Legacy and the Legacy Black series of clubs, forged, premium quality and expensive.
Mizuno has the Craft series driver very nice shoes, and balls too. the Mizuno Yoro custom iron program where you can choose between something like 8 or 9 different finishes, different offset (!), lie, loft, shafts, custom stamping on the heads with your name on it for example, or with deleted logos, logos in different places on the head etc etc.
Cleveland has been offering forged versions of their wedges in cool finishes for YEARS and now finally they offer a forged wedge for us western consumers.
Then you have bridgestones premium brand Tourstage with everything from drivers, FW, irons and putters to gloves, bags and many different kinds of balls.

So it's a bit misleading when people sometimes say that "well the OEMs are the biggest sellers in Japan too, so there obviously isn't anything special with JDM stuff"..Yeah, because they offer Japan only stuff that we can't buy.

On top of all this there are so many brands that are japan and Asia only that are really cutting edge and usually pricey.

For example, you sometimes read that an OEM brags about "thin walls giving us an extra 20 grams to put to good use in hte driver head". Well, the Ryoma driver can be ordered as light as 186 grams if I remember it correctly, and they have a weight pod in the back weighing 60 (!) grams, almost a third of the whole head. They shave the walls so thin that mass production is out of the question, but it does make it what most people that have tried it calls the most forgiving and straight driver in the world. They must probably stress test every head multiple times during production and probably have pretty high "fail" rate with heads that don't reach the market. This with exact lofts and premuim forged DAT 55 Ti in the face makes it expensive, needless to say. it actually costs 1000 dollars for only the head, and still they are probably back ordered. They have only recently offered a FW too, for a long time they only every produced drivers, so they are very specialised, another typical tendency in the JDM market.

Just a few examples
[/quote]

Thanks for the info. You seem quite knowledgable on the subject and I'm sure you provided some insights even to JDM aficianados.

While I admire the workmanship of JDM ( or as some are suggesting it be called JEM) equipment I haven't yet taken the plunge. Two reasons are I've been satisfied in finding domestic equipment that fits my game and the inability to try or even see in the flesh before I buy (I'm not lucky enough to have any friends with JDM to try).

On a slightly different note, what do you know about the Mizuno TN 87 irons? JDM? JEM? Something else?
[/quote]

Most Mizuno irons have been marketed worldwide for many many years, so they are not JDM or USDM, they are simply international. The are usually some small differences specwise, usually involving the shafts, for the asian market mizuno (and many other brands too) offers nippon shafts or the dynamic gold S200 shafts as standard. The TN87 is an older blade though, have never hit it, but I have seen it a couple of times. From what I remember they had a bit unusual looking wedges? Not sure though

[johnny888]

JDM is to expensive for avg golfer... the wont consider buying it....

[idrive]

[quote name='Mateo' timestamp='1341809921' post='5241176']
I think at the end of the day.............. tenngolfer is "that guy" who paid too much for Japanese equipment, wants everyone at his club to know it, and wants everyone on the web to know what clubs he has even though we don't care.
My next thread is gonna be "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of car I drive?!?!?!?!?!?!" or "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of watch I have on?!?!?!?!??!!"
The best part...... he probably would play better with some pinseekers and a plop putter.
Nice 92 dude.
[/quote]

Most useless, stupid, ignorant reply to a thread on the internet

good job

thanks for contributing

[Swisstrader98]

Agreed[quote name='idrive' timestamp='1341825364' post='5241586']
[quote name='Mateo' timestamp='1341809921' post='5241176']
I think at the end of the day.............. tenngolfer is "that guy" who paid too much for Japanese equipment, wants everyone at his club to know it, and wants everyone on the web to know what clubs he has even though we don't care.
My next thread is gonna be "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of car I drive?!?!?!?!?!?!" or "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of watch I have on?!?!?!?!??!!"
The best part...... he probably would play better with some pinseekers and a plop putter.
Nice 92 dude.
[/quote]

Most useless, stupid, ignorant reply to a thread on the internet

good job

thanks for contributing
[/quote]

[andef]

I think at the end of the day.............. tenngolfer is "that guy" who paid too much for Japanese equipment, wants everyone at his club to know it, and wants everyone on the web to know what clubs he has even though we don't care.

My next thread is gonna be "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of car I drive?!?!?!?!?!?!" or "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of watch I have on?!?!?!?!??!!"

The best part...... he probably would play better with some pinseekers and a plop putter.

Nice 92 dude.

[DrCRHop]

[quote name='idrive' timestamp='1341825364' post='5241586']
[quote name='Mateo' timestamp='1341809921' post='5241176']
I think at the end of the day.............. tenngolfer is "that guy" who paid too much for Japanese equipment, wants everyone at his club to know it, and wants everyone on the web to know what clubs he has even though we don't care.
My next thread is gonna be "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of car I drive?!?!?!?!?!?!" or "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of watch I have on?!?!?!?!??!!"
The best part...... he probably would play better with some pinseekers and a plop putter.
Nice 92 dude.
[/quote]

Most useless, stupid, ignorant reply to a thread on the internet

good job

thanks for contributing
[/quote]
That is, outside of the original post, of course.

[Mateo]

[quote name='DrCRHop' timestamp='1341950215' post='5251132']
[quote name='idrive' timestamp='1341825364' post='5241586']
[quote name='Mateo' timestamp='1341809921' post='5241176']
I think at the end of the day.............. tenngolfer is "that guy" who paid too much for Japanese equipment, wants everyone at his club to know it, and wants everyone on the web to know what clubs he has even though we don't care.
My next thread is gonna be "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of car I drive?!?!?!?!?!?!" or "Why don't all the people at my club know what kind of watch I have on?!?!?!?!??!!"
The best part...... he probably would play better with some pinseekers and a plop putter.
Nice 92 dude.
[/quote]

Most useless, stupid, ignorant reply to a thread on the internet

good job

thanks for contributing
[/quote]
That is, outside of the original post, of course.
[/quote]

HAHA. idrive needs to move out of mommy and daddy's house and learn what sarcasm is.
:-)

[3leggedpony]

I think he does know what it is tbh

[MrParr1Noid]

Jokes and sarcasm don't go over well on the internet.. The best line I can think of is...[b] [color=#1C2837][size=3]Treat others the way you want to be treated. Mutual respect is a key component to preservation of the site's goals. [/b] [/size][/color]

[color=#1C2837][size=3]My suggestion anyway.[/size][/color]

[color=#1C2837][size=3]TY[/size][/color]

[LBlack14]

Oh Thrillhouse, you silly goose. Sometimes I wanna buy you a double shot of Patrone, get drunker than a monkey and raise some hell with your a$$.

BTW, to the OP, you sure are takin' the lambastin' well. Good sport!

[chiguy]

Agreed. Most people outside of a golf forum (especially wrx) have no idea about any brands that are sold outside of the US. It's a shame.

[Tenngolfer]

[quote name='LBlack14' timestamp='1342072405' post='5260818']
Oh Thrillhouse, you silly goose. Sometimes I wanna buy you a double shot of Patrone, get drunker than a monkey and raise some hell with your a$$.

BTW, to the OP, you sure are takin' the lambastin' well. Good sport!
[/quote]

Yes, I had to grow a thick "internet" skin to survive on, well, a golf forum of all places lol... ;-) I agree with Mparr's post just above about mutual respect, and try to take the high road, even though I will be the first to admit I have been guilty of a proverbial "jab" or two back at a few comment makers as well.

Even though I have been taking my share of lambastin' I still love this forum. I have learned more about equipment from here than anywhere else... IT and ebay are my nemesis to keeping my inner golf ho at bay ;-)

[ucdan5]

I hope you made your friend walk home from the course that day. I'm in awe when I play with a buddy who was a state champ in HS, plays once and a while and shoots 70-72 no matter where we play. He swings so smooth you'd thing he was sleep-golfing.

Back to JDM, I am married to an Asian. Oh you meant golf clubs?

One person I've played with knew what they were and commented on them at a investment wholesaler tourney. He played a few of my irons during the day and loved them.

I do like hitting a good shot or playing well and someone say, "imagine if you had a set of TM R11 irons, you would have shot 10 strokes better!"

Also it keeps them cheaper on eBay if I want to buy something else. So let's all agree that JDM equip sucks and no one else should buy them. They become cheaper, people will think tey are inferior to any "marketed" club and turn their nose up.

[TigerStrong]

KONNICHIWA...

[BillMurrayGolfing]

I know this post is dated but why not?

It's certainly true that no one at my club in Long Island recognizes Japanese clubs (Mizuno is not strictly "Japanese" - we are talking about Yonex, Miura, and Epon here).

However when I am in China, 60% of the guys and over 80% of the ladies are baggin Japanese clubs.

Some have the ultra-expensive ones like GIII and Honma 5 stars. And people often think Callaway/Taylormade/Ping are inferior because they are much less expensive.

Yes - A Maruman driver can cost a full-set of Taylormade.

But it's another story with Titleist. Like it or not, everybody recognizes Titleist clubs as quality stuff.

[JDLA]

awesome. leaves more choices for us club ho's lol

[Stonewalled]

I play at 2 different clubs, both are rural clubs, one a ton more rural than the other.

 

I play in the Men's night of the club thats kinda hillbilly.

 

This place prides itself in having the tightest tree lined put sh-t in the way course on the planet.

 

Prices are extremely attractive and the ownership loves to p-ss off the fancy rural course by keeping memberships and green fees dirt cheap.

 

I have played the Men's league at both clubs and the hick place is tons more fun to play at. People come from far and wide to enjoy the hospitality.

 

One thing about the Far and wide golfers is I'm constantly looking at the clubs in there bags and not recognizing any of the brand names. Most of these clubs are either old knockoffs or just old as crap irons. I don't mean to laugh at some of the equipment being used but i'm pretty versed at knowing all the name brands of any club made in the last century. So when i'm stumped on what the h-ell are those things i kinda doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference between my Fourteen tc-910s or any of my Mizuno sets.

[Mongo_Smash]

I have only played with 2 people that remotely knew what any of the jdm clubs were in my bag. One guy was a former tour player from the UK and the other was an enthusiast like myself.

[bladehunter]

Was on the range this afternoon and someone comments that yonex don't made clubs since Phil quit playing for them. And then asked me why I was using that antique driver. I literally cracked up. I never did correct them.

[Bigmean]

Hahaha, that is good.

 

I think I am on 2 years exactly playing my miura small blades. I haven't counted but I would bet the set I am close, less than 5 people or 5 on the button have commented about knowing what they are. My instructor from last year, a bag guy at a club that played on mini tours, 2 playing partners, one was older and asked where the hell I got those, and I am saving one for error. I play a lot of freaking golf and see a lot of golfers....

 

I truly don't care and if anything I probably get off on using a masda driver when everyone else has their TM and callaway gear, I like the knockoff wolf in sheeps clothing thing. But I am truly sad in that there is a ton of stuff many guys would really enjoy if they were educated on it, but rather than seek education, mostly they will just pawn off anything not marketed as cheap, weird, crappy etc. it just proves how much humans really respond to marketing......man if I switched to some forgiving clubs I would be scratch.....I have heard that as many times as someone who has recognized miura in the bag....it is the same marketing effect.