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[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

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Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.

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[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

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Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
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It's the test that everyone was waiting for. I wasn't surprised that there wasn't a big difference in the numbers, but like he said, some are seeing a jump in numbers.

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352669201' post='5919591']
[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

[/quote]

Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
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It's the test that everyone was waiting for. I wasn't surprised that there wasn't a big difference in the numbers, but like he said, some are seeing a jump in numbers.
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Yeah thats very true, alot are saying they are seeing a jump in numbers as you quite rightly say. Unfortunately though, unlike this vid, we don't have their vids to back those claims up. Well I will get mine this week, and if I see no difference between the 910 and 913, then I will see my fitter about a new Anser instead. It seems alot of people all have different opinions, and I will just make my own comparison when my 913 arrives. You never know, it could be the exception rather than the rule.

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[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
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That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
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i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...

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[quote name='gunmetal' timestamp='1352570039' post='5916187']
The reality is that for a lot of golfers, simply swapping shafts won't change spin all that much. The major contributors to spin are the the ball you use, the clubheads' loft, your swingspeed, and your angle of attack. If you are able to hold your release of the club then yes the shaft can effect spin. If you cast the club or release it early, the shaft will not have an effect on spin or launch. So it's impossible to tell without seeing your swing.
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Spoke with my fitter and he said the DI would send the ball too high as I have a naturally high ball flight. I need a shaft that has a stiffer tip (Oo er).

Struggling to find a place with the AD BB in stock to test and I'd like to try the Oban Kiyoshi too.

Ho hum, decisions decisions...
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the kiyoshi upcharge is $415!!

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[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352666606' post='5919469']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
[/quote]


That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
[/quote]

i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...
[/quote]

Wow! that is kinda insane, I agree. I was under the impression that Golfsmiths upcharge for th GD Tour BB was $269 though, and there is no upcharge for the Original whiteboards, apart from the 63 Gram version.

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[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352672832' post='5919779']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352666606' post='5919469']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
[/quote]


That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
[/quote]

i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...
[/quote]

Wow! that is kinda insane, I agree. I was under the impression that Golfsmiths upcharge for th GD Tour BB was $269 though, and there is no upcharge for the Original whiteboards, apart from the 63 Gram version.
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i guess i need to goto golfsmith asap!!

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You can get the WB and BB Diamana shafts at Golfsmith and have an adapter put on for about $175 total.

TM Stealth 2+ 10.5deg Hzrdus Smoke 4G Black 60 6.0

Titleist TSi2 16.5deg Hzrdus Smoke Black 70 6.0

TM Stealth 2+ 3 Hybrid Project X Black 80 stiff

TM P770 5-AW DG 105 S300

TM MG4 54/58 DG 105 S300

SC Newport Select 34" (rotate them)

TM TP5X

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I'm not into I told you so's, but I posted weeks ago that the 913 was shorter for me & got shot down left, right & centre. I don't think mark crossfield would have been using too crappy a range ball either. Yes, the shaft may not have suited him but was great to see a head to head comparison.

Ping G LS 9* Aldila Tour Rogue 125msi 60x or
Taylormade M1 430 9.5* Aldila Tour Rogue 125msi 60s
Titleist 915F 15* Aldila Tour Rogue 125msi 70s
Titleist 915 HD 17.5* Diamana Blue 80s
Cleveland 588 CB 5-PW Project X PXI 6.0
Titleist 712 GW KBS Tour
Cleveland Rotex 2.0 52* 56* 60*
Taylormade Spider Si Slant Neck

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352669201' post='5919591']
[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

[/quote]

Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
[/quote]



Supposedly the difference between the 910 and 913 in not distance but better results across the entire face....more foregiveness compared to the 910.
If you are looking for more distance, you will need to try something else, ie different shaft; different swing, etc.

The COR for all drivers are maxed out, so is distance.

DRIVER:  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

TAYLORMADE `24 P Series UDI 17*, Recoil Dart 105X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X // PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352673286' post='5919819']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352672832' post='5919779']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352666606' post='5919469']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
[/quote]


That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
[/quote]

i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...
[/quote]

Wow! that is kinda insane, I agree. I was under the impression that Golfsmiths upcharge for th GD Tour BB was $269 though, and there is no upcharge for the Original whiteboards, apart from the 63 Gram version.
[/quote]


I don't think you need a different shaft make just a stiffer flex. Try the same shaft in a x flex...you were using a Stiff flex. That should get the ball down. If you lose distance then tip the stiff shaft.

DRIVER:  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

TAYLORMADE `24 P Series UDI 17*, Recoil Dart 105X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X // PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352681353' post='5920329']
[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352669201' post='5919591']
[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

[/quote]

Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
[/quote]



Supposedly the difference between the 910 and 913 in not distance but better results across the entire face....more foregiveness compared to the 910.
If you are looking for more distance, you will need to try something else, ie different shaft; different swing, etc.
[/quote]

A drop in spin was also mentioned, though Mark didn't really see that either. I doubt the average person would be able to tell the difference in the forgiveness of the two.

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[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352681727' post='5920355']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352681353' post='5920329']
[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352669201' post='5919591']
[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

[/quote]

Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
[/quote]



Supposedly the difference between the 910 and 913 in not distance but better results across the entire face....more foregiveness compared to the 910.
If you are looking for more distance, you will need to try something else, ie different shaft; different swing, etc.
[/quote]

A drop in spin was also mentioned, though Mark didn't really see that either. I doubt the average person would be able to tell the difference in the forgiveness of the two.
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True, but Mark did mention the 913 had the better feel....the different face compared to the 910.

DRIVER:  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

TAYLORMADE `24 P Series UDI 17*, Recoil Dart 105X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X // PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352681353' post='5920329']
[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352669201' post='5919591']
[quote name='PZero' timestamp='1352668656' post='5919565']
Mark compares the 913 to the 910

[/quote]

Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
[/quote]



Supposedly the difference between the 910 and 913 in not distance but better results across the entire face....more foregiveness compared to the 910.
If you are looking for more distance, you will need to try something else, ie different shaft; different swing, etc.

The COR for all drivers are maxed out, so is distance.
[/quote]

I believe the Marketing slogan is 'more speed, more distance, more performance'. I took it from that, they meant from previous offerings. ie 910. Perhaps I was wrong. According to Mark Crossfield, we are actually getting 'same speed, same distance, same performance, better feel' As somebody else rightly said too, we were told less spin too. Mark Crossfields vid suggests for him, it was the same. As for 'changing ones swing to get distance, well that could relate to any golf club, it doesn't make the Titleist better for it.

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352673286' post='5919819']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352672832' post='5919779']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352666606' post='5919469']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
[/quote]


That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
[/quote]

i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...
[/quote]

Wow! that is kinda insane, I agree. I was under the impression that Golfsmiths upcharge for th GD Tour BB was $269 though, and there is no upcharge for the Original whiteboards, apart from the 63 Gram version.
[/quote]


I don't think you need a different shaft make just a stiffer flex. Try the same shaft in a x flex...you were using a Stiff flex. That should get the ball down. If you lose distance then tip the stiff shaft.
[/quote]

i was actually using an x flex...

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Fascinating eh? Obviously that shaft isn't right for him, but at least its an apples for apples test, so its worrying to see absolutely no improvement. And look at how low that ball speed is. Smash factor of only 1.3? Crappy range balls don't help that I suppose. Though thats not the clubs fault obviously. I'm really starting to think I was drawn in by all the marketing Blurb from Titleist and should have stayed with the 910 or gone with the Anser. Oh well, too late now. I have learnt my lesson the hard way. £500 out of pocket to show for it too. Nevrtheless, its a very interesting and eye opening vid.
[/quote]

After that, I'm quite tempted to forget the 913 and just upgrade the shaft!

What shaft did you end up opting for Jay?

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[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352672946' post='5919785']
the kiyoshi upcharge is $415!!
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Yeah, I've just found a site in the UK with all the upcharges listed in their shop - Kiyoshi is £250 extra, AD BB is £209

The shaft from my fitting is £35 lol - Can those two really be £215 better?
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Hiya

Good to here from you. I have a Fubuki K 60X and a Grafalloy bimatrix for my 910. The Bimatrix is performing a bit better at the moment. But I have the 913 at Golf Principles at the moment having a Matrix 6m3 Stiff putting into an adaptor for me. So I will try those three shafts and go with the one that performs the best for me. It will probably be the 6m3 as thats the one that my fitter fit me into, but it will have to be good to kick the Bimatrix out.

By the way, on upcharges, shop around. I found that Golfsupport do reasonably priced upcharges. £200 for the kiyoshi and £156 for the GD tour BB. And only £138 for the Fujikura 6/7.2 Tour spec. Or give Jason a ring at Golf Principles and he will give you all the help you need. What are you thinking bout getting then?

Jay

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[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352681433' post='5920335']
[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352673286' post='5919819']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352672832' post='5919779']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352666606' post='5919469']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352662679' post='5919267']
i just hit the 8.5 d3 with the stock D+ 72 gram shaft. the shaft feels really good but i think the launch angle was a little too high for me at around 17 degrees. i was getting around 270 carry with that. how much would a 7.5 change the launch angle?
[/quote]


That would depend on the spin rate.....too much spin then the 7.5 will help or a tipped shaft will reduce that or a x shaft as well.
Try some other combinations of stiffer shafts to bring it down.
[/quote]

i was at golf galaxy and it didnt show me the spin rate. the only things it did show was the carry, total distance, launch, ball speed.

the upcharge for the shafts are kind of insane... i was quoted $375 for the AD-DI/BB and $315 for the original whiteboard...
[/quote]

Wow! that is kinda insane, I agree. I was under the impression that Golfsmiths upcharge for th GD Tour BB was $269 though, and there is no upcharge for the Original whiteboards, apart from the 63 Gram version.
[/quote]


I don't think you need a different shaft make just a stiffer flex. Try the same shaft in a x flex...you were using a Stiff flex. That should get the ball down. If you lose distance then tip the stiff shaft.
[/quote]

i was actually using an x flex...
[/quote]


Ok, get it tipped and you will be good.

DRIVER:  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

TAYLORMADE `24 P Series UDI 17*, Recoil Dart 105X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X // PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352721396' post='5921769']


Hiya

Good to here from you. I have a Fubuki K 60X and a Grafalloy bimatrix for my 910. The Bimatrix is performing a bit better at the moment. But I have the 913 at Golf Principles at the moment having a Matrix 6m3 Stiff putting into an adaptor for me. So I will try those three shafts and go with the one that performs the best for me. It will probably be the 6m3 as thats the one that my fitter fit me into, but it will have to be good to kick the Bimatrix out.

By the way, on upcharges, shop around. I found that Golfsupport do reasonably priced upcharges. £200 for the kiyoshi and £156 for the GD tour BB. And only £138 for the Fujikura 6/7.2 Tour spec. Or give Jason a ring at Golf Principles and he will give you all the help you need. What are you thinking bout getting then?

Jay
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Good call on the prices on that Golfsupport site, much better.

Unsure on exactly what to do but I think I'll be booking in for another fitting somewhere before I pull the trigger, just to be sure on the right choice.

Looking forward to hear how your combo performs.

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[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1352721396' post='5921769']
Hiya

Good to here from you. I have a Fubuki K 60X and a Grafalloy bimatrix for my 910. The Bimatrix is performing a bit better at the moment. But I have the 913 at Golf Principles at the moment having a Matrix 6m3 Stiff putting into an adaptor for me. So I will try those three shafts and go with the one that performs the best for me. It will probably be the 6m3 as thats the one that my fitter fit me into, but it will have to be good to kick the Bimatrix out.

By the way, on upcharges, shop around. I found that Golfsupport do reasonably priced upcharges. £200 for the kiyoshi and £156 for the GD tour BB. And only £138 for the Fujikura 6/7.2 Tour spec. Or give Jason a ring at Golf Principles and he will give you all the help you need. What are you thinking bout getting then?

Jay
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Good call on the prices on that Golfsupport site, much better.

Unsure on exactly what to do but I think I'll be booking in for another fitting somewhere before I pull the trigger, just to be sure on the right choice.

Looking forward to hear how your combo performs.
[/quote]

I don't blame you at all for being cautious, quite right too Rick!

Just don't expect Titleist to have more shafts if you go again though. They have their 'shaft matrix' at the Fitting Centre, which is normally about 12-15 shafts, and they will stick with that. They may add one or two as the months go on, but in my experience its unlikely. So if you go back again in a months time, the chances are that they will have exactly the same shafts to try as when you went before.

I did actually pm you with an alternative, but it does involve a compromise, if you want to try some exotic offerings, as I said.

I am getting mine on Wednesday, and off out for a range session and to play on Friday, so will let you know how it performs up against my current 910/bimatrix combo.

Jay

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[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352732525' post='5922275']
now how much tipping should i do?

how much would a 7.5 get down from a 8.5?
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The loft change isn't the answer; the tip is flexing too much.
I tipped mine 1", but 1/2" may work fine. So, try the 1/2" first and add 1/2" to the butt to compensate for length decrease. Try that, if not enough then do another 1/2". It will bring the flight down.

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[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352733509' post='5922339']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352732525' post='5922275']
now how much tipping should i do?

how much would a 7.5 get down from a 8.5?
[/quote]

The loft change isn't the answer; the tip is flexing too much.
I tipped mine 1", but 1/2" may work fine. So, try the 1/2" first and add 1/2" to the butt to compensate for length decrease. Try that, if not enough then do another 1/2". It will bring the flight down.
[/quote]

yikes, sounds like a lot of work. i dont want to take apart the tip so many times. is there a way to do this without tipping, trying and tipping again?

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[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352734577' post='5922429']
[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1352733509' post='5922339']
[quote name='acquadiice' timestamp='1352732525' post='5922275']
now how much tipping should i do?

how much would a 7.5 get down from a 8.5?
[/quote]

The loft change isn't the answer; the tip is flexing too much.
I tipped mine 1", but 1/2" may work fine. So, try the 1/2" first and add 1/2" to the butt to compensate for length decrease. Try that, if not enough then do another 1/2". It will bring the flight down.
[/quote]

yikes, sounds like a lot of work. i dont want to take apart the tip so many times. is there a way to do this without tipping, trying and tipping again?
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Then you will need to try some different shafts that are more low launch....see graph for those in the lower left corner.

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TAYLORMADE `24 P Series UDI 17*, Recoil Dart 105X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X // PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

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The charges for shaft upgrades on the 913 range are HORRENDOUS. I think Titleist are really taking the P***.
- £85 for a Voodoo
- £215 for an Oban Kiyoshi
- £65 for a ProForce V2
- £190 for an AD DI/DJ/BB
- £170 for a Diamana

Nearly as bad as Callaway in recent years!

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[quote name='MarkFromTheUK' timestamp='1352741075' post='5922877']
The charges for shaft upgrades on the 913 range are HORRENDOUS. I think Titleist are really taking the P***.
- £85 for a Voodoo
- £215 for an Oban Kiyoshi
- £65 for a ProForce V2
- £190 for an AD DI/DJ/BB
- £170 for a Diamana

Nearly as bad as Callaway in recent years!
[/quote]

I do agree with you Mark to some extent, however, Titleist don't set the upgrade charges, the retailers have a cost price to them that Titleist charge, so its up to the retailers to set their margins on these cost prices. So the order of the day is to shop around. I have found that Golfsupport UK has the best upgrade charges.

Oban Kiyoshi +£200
UST V2 +£60
Graphite Design BB +£156
Graphite Design DI/DJ +174
Original Diamana Blueboard and Whiteboard No Upcharge.

Some of the savings aren't much, but something is better than nothing. They are pretty decent guys to deal with too.

Hope that helps a bit.

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