Callaway Big Bertha

[J13]

[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385511967' post='8212954']
I've been digging through patents. Found some awesome stuff, but I think I may have stumbled onto at least a version of one of the drivers it could've evolved from. It has the classic Bertha face and from descriptions of some of the components that make it up, it could be an iteration of what evolved into the new driver. If I'm off base, well, I tried. But if someone that's seen it could confirm it or deny it, my suspicions would be at ease.

[url="http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20120064991-p20120064991"]http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20120064991-p20120064991[/url]
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Well ya tried but no cigar

[RookieBlue7]

Gravity Core was a recent trademark, so I'm thinking that that's what the flipper weight will be referred to as.

[OUZO Power]

[quote name='hectorj' timestamp='1385505678' post='8212472']
[quote name='chiguy' timestamp='1385505014' post='8212418']
My head is spinning now! Can't wait for 12/2 to see the clubs and who is actually right. And I fully expect an ''I told you so'' from some of you around here.
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BB with a 20g sliding track (which is the real story). No weights. (well, one weight, but not important to the design.) 3 lofts. Dual cog.

The BB is the straightest driver on the market. The dispersion numbers are astounding.

Can't wait for 12/2 so all the videos will go up.
[/quote]it is important to the design because with that one weight you can change the SW.

[BreakingPar]

So this thing's not [quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385511967' post='8212954']
I've been digging through patents. Found some awesome stuff, but I think I may have stumbled onto at least a version of one of the drivers it could've evolved from. It has the classic Bertha face and from descriptions of some of the components that make it up, it could be an iteration of what evolved into the new driver. If I'm off base, well, I tried. But if someone that's seen it could confirm it or deny it, my suspicions would be at ease.

[url="http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20120064991-p20120064991"]http://images1.fresh...91-p20120064991[/url]
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So this thing's not just a unicorn? I was beginning to wonder!

[RookieBlue7]

I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.

[scratchswinger]

[quote name='J13' timestamp='1385513395' post='8213042']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385511967' post='8212954']
I've been digging through patents. Found some awesome stuff, but I think I may have stumbled onto at least a version of one of the drivers it could've evolved from. It has the classic Bertha face and from descriptions of some of the components that make it up, it could be an iteration of what evolved into the new driver. If I'm off base, well, I tried. But if someone that's seen it could confirm it or deny it, my suspicions would be at ease.

[url="http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20120064991-p20120064991"]http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20120064991-p20120064991[/url]
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Well ya tried but no cigar
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Poker face?

[teeituphigh]

I think based on what I just recieved via email the name could be Apex for the woods also....Apex and Apex Edge. Could be wrong but thats what my order spreadsheet says?

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='teeituphigh' timestamp='1385519714' post='8213624']
I think based on what I just recieved via email the name could be Apex for the woods also....Apex and Apex Edge. Could be wrong but thats what my order spreadsheet says?
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That's just the code name, BB is coming back!

[RookieBlue7]

I also wonder if he slotted soled fairway I found in the patents will be released ever? It was an interesting concept

[teeituphigh]

2,3,5 DEEP are on the order form aswell to please many.

[hayzooos]

[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
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What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.

[RookieBlue7]

[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385522151' post='8213834']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
[/quote]

What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.
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I hit my driver then he puts me in the Cally. If the numbers are better with theirs, he gets to shave the Callaway Chevron into my scalp.

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385522390' post='8213858']
[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385522151' post='8213834']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
[/quote]

What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.
[/quote]

I hit my driver then he puts me in the Cally. If the numbers are better with theirs, he gets to shave the Callaway Chevron into my scalp.
[/quote]

That should be really interesting!! And you will have a blast out there too!!

[Dscvrr St Louis]

I keep calling my rep and he is always busy..want to hit these things. I am thinking the Adj COG can help me quite a bit..about a -1 to -2* angle of attack when consistent...so put a bit of spin on the ball, this could do the trick!

[RookieBlue7]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1385523342' post='8213950']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385522390' post='8213858']
[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385522151' post='8213834']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
[/quote]

What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.
[/quote]

I hit my driver then he puts me in the Cally. If the numbers are better with theirs, he gets to shave the Callaway Chevron into my scalp.
[/quote]

That should be really interesting!! And you will have a blast out there too!!
[/quote]

We've discussed it some but no details are hammered out other than it'll take place somewhere around here when he's in Atlanta.

[RookieBlue7]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1385523342' post='8213950']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385522390' post='8213858']
[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385522151' post='8213834']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
[/quote]

What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.
[/quote]

I hit my driver then he puts me in the Cally. If the numbers are better with theirs, he gets to shave the Callaway Chevron into my scalp.
[/quote]

That should be really interesting!! And you will have a blast out there too!!
[/quote]

We've discussed it some but no details are hammered out other than it'll take place somewhere around here when he's in Atlanta.

[RookieBlue7]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1385523342' post='8213950']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385522390' post='8213858']
[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1385522151' post='8213834']
[quote name='RookieBlue7' timestamp='1385519262' post='8213588']
I jut hope the sliding weight version is as good as it looks to be. They've only been working on developing it since 05'. And I'm still waiting on Harry to address the challenge I issued to him and he accepted a while back. He said end of this year or January, so who knows.
[/quote]

What was the deal you guys came to again? I remember seeing a few posts about it, but I was never sure what details were settled on.
[/quote]

I hit my driver then he puts me in the Cally. If the numbers are better with theirs, he gets to shave the Callaway Chevron into my scalp.
[/quote]

That should be really interesting!! And you will have a blast out there too!!
[/quote]

We've discussed it some but no details are hammered out other than it'll take place somewhere around here when he's in Atlanta.

[NWgolfer19]

Just talked to one of the sales guys at local course today who got to try one. He said it is legit! I can't wait to try it. The RFE reduced my BS, from the sounds of this I'll be able to dial it down even more without changing loft positions! Stoked

[getitclose]

Figures right after I buy the Optiforce this comes up lol. I have been hitting it well but a little too much spin. Can't wait to see these things

[creecool]

Fubuki k as stock option should be nice, have to see if it can usurp RFE with Phenom.

[bulls9999]

Well, now you've come up with a combination of both for the 2015 version (left-to-right slider for draw to fade bias, and front-to-rear slider for front-back COG-changing bias).

[quote name='hayzooos' timestamp='1384970702' post='8178598']
[quote name='scratchswinger' timestamp='1384967549' post='8178232']
Is it safe to assume that the Callaway Slider driver that Greg got the spy photos of were a ploy to throw off the competition and [b]the new driver is not even close to the same?[/b]
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I haven't seen it, but I think this is accurate. Well, at least the bolded part, I'm not sure about anything to throw off competition. I think it's possible that was their plan until they were beaten to the punch. So then maybe they decided to go a different direction so it wasn't a "me too" driver, but instead, something that hasn't been seen before, which it sounds like this is.
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[ssfranny]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1384562370' post='8155688']
[quote name='DoubleAlbatross' timestamp='1384557129' post='8155334']
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Big Bertha Alpha. I really like the sound of that!!!
[/quote]

Hmm so theres a curved area at bottom where the weight goes? Wouldn't you have 2 curved rails in the back to change the COG? You could make the weights interchangeable to also affect the weighting ala TM MWT

[ssfranny]

[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384569170' post='8156286']
[quote name='nohny noke' timestamp='1384559220' post='8155470']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384540839' post='8154170']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1384539586' post='8154044']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384538896' post='8153976']
I was sworn to not say a damn word. He wouldn't even let me take a pic of the headcover. Callaway isn't going to be releasing info until January. But I'm guessing once the new year hits the Cally guys will have this in the bag on tour.
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Was the headcover sweet looking too?
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I thought so. But then again, I have my Iowa State mascot headcover for my driver so I won't be using it.
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Sooo I guess since you have Iowa State connections and so do I, you have to tell me everything you know. Confidentially, of course. In return, I will provide you with a slice of Great Plains Pizza.
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Casey's Pizza and you have a deal...
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Caseys Pizza really? heck I can go down the street and get that haha How about if I get you Hickory Park BBQ

[ssfranny]

[quote name='martinbns' timestamp='1384605569' post='8157502']
[quote name='sybez' timestamp='1384538692' post='8153960']
Phil slipped up with saying something about adjustable CG (raise and lower) on his Morning drive interview....

3:10secs onwards [url="http://www.golfchannel.com/media/tech-driven-leftys-game-improving-technology/"]http://www.golfchann...ing-technology/[/url]
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That certainly ends the debate on the other thread about Phil going to Taylormade.
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Ok watched video so I get how they can change the CG forward and back but how do you change it up and down??? If so that's unreal

[hectorj]

[quote name='ssfranny' timestamp='1385566903' post='8215946']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1384562370' post='8155688']
[quote name='DoubleAlbatross' timestamp='1384557129' post='8155334']
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Big Bertha Alpha. I really like the sound of that!!!
[/quote]

Hmm so theres a curved area at bottom where the weight goes? Wouldn't you have 2 curved rails in the back to change the COG? You could make the weights interchangeable to also affect the weighting ala TM MWT
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No. That is not what it looks like.

[ssfranny]

[quote name='callawayjay' timestamp='1384615646' post='8157886']
I also believe that the way Michelson tinkers with other oem clubs is so that Phil himself can give the club designers input at callaway for their next ventures.

Rather than playing another oem's offering as a slap to callaway i do think it's for research and informational purposes only

Can't wait to see this driver.
[/quote]

Pretty scary that you have Phil and Doc Hock both at same company. Phil probably the most intelligent PGA pro when it comes to club tech. Hes also behind the KBS TOur v shaft too. Once he retires should just start own equipment company or buy into Callaway.

[dieselmd]

[quote name='ssfranny' timestamp='1385568515' post='8216058']
[quote name='callawayjay' timestamp='1384615646' post='8157886']
I also believe that the way Michelson tinkers with other oem clubs is so that Phil himself can give the club designers input at callaway for their next ventures.

Rather than playing another oem's offering as a slap to callaway i do think it's for research and informational purposes only

Can't wait to see this driver.
[/quote]

Pretty scary that you have Phil and Doc Hock both at same company. Phil probably the most intelligent PGA pro when it comes to club tech. Hes also behind the KBS TOur v shaft too. Once he retires should just start own equipment company or buy into Callaway.
[/quote]

Sorry but I have to disagree. Phil tells The Doc and Kim Braly what he wants and they build it. They are the smart ones! Just bustin" your chops mate!

[J13]

Phils knows what he wants to see out of a shot and then relays the message to guys like Doc who then translate that into a club that can do it. Phil does know his gear though and the guy can sell on a moments notice.

[ZJohnson]

[quote name='creecool' timestamp='1385561639' post='8215520']
Fubuki k as stock option should be nice, have to see if it can usurp RFE with Phenom.
[/quote]

It's the Fubuki Z and ZT...not the K.

[ZJohnson]

[quote name='ssfranny' timestamp='1385567068' post='8215952']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384569170' post='8156286']
[quote name='nohny noke' timestamp='1384559220' post='8155470']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384540839' post='8154170']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1384539586' post='8154044']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1384538896' post='8153976']
I was sworn to not say a damn word. He wouldn't even let me take a pic of the headcover. Callaway isn't going to be releasing info until January. But I'm guessing once the new year hits the Cally guys will have this in the bag on tour.
[/quote]

Was the headcover sweet looking too?
[/quote]

I thought so. But then again, I have my Iowa State mascot headcover for my driver so I won't be using it.
[/quote]

Sooo I guess since you have Iowa State connections and so do I, you have to tell me everything you know. Confidentially, of course. In return, I will provide you with a slice of Great Plains Pizza.
[/quote]

Casey's Pizza and you have a deal...
[/quote]

Caseys Pizza really? heck I can go down the street and get that haha How about if I get you Hickory Park BBQ
[/quote]

Overrated. Give me Jethro's or Woody's all day.