TaylorMade Shaft Adapter Compatibility

Jer-JerJer-Jer Members Posts: 2,924
Can anyone explain what TM shaft adapters work with what clubs? I know this is a bit of a broad question, but TM comes out with drivers so often I am not sure "what fits what." Was there a certain model or model year where every model that came after that one TM made all the shaft adapters the same? Thanks in advance.
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  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT Members Posts: 6,991 ✭✭
    Rbz stage 2,jetspeed, sldr,r15,m1 use the new tips.....anything prior shared same
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    edited Jun 7, 2016 #3
    SwooshLT wrote:


    Rbz stage 2,jetspeed, sldr,r15,m1 use the new tips.....anything prior shared same




    Add R1 to that list (and M2)



    It was the year they released the R1, RBZ stage 2 that they changed to the newer current adapter design.
  • Jer-JerJer-Jer Members Posts: 2,924
    Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know why the adapters look different though? Like the SLDR adapter may fit an M2 driver, but it is certainly not the same looking tip.
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    The R1 was different because they decided to add the loft numbers to the ferrule. There have been different versions that were all metal so no issues melting the ferrule when pulling and re-using (usually tour issue). Other than that, who knows why they changed the styling from time to time.
  • CircaflexCircaflex Well, I gotta go now. I’ve got a lotta bouncin’ to do! Members Posts: 727 ✭✭
    sorry to bump such an old thread, but it is exactly what I want to know. I have an R15 now, can I just swap heads over to one of the older m1's or m2's or, essentially what is the newest head I can just swap to?
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  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    That was answered - but to clarify, yes you can.
  • IsleOfManIsleOfMan Members Posts: 2,309 ClubWRX
    edited Jan 19, 2017 #8
    Adams XTD should be added to the list compatible with the newer adapters. XTD Ti Fairway and Hybrid are compatible with the respective adapters there too.
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  • CircaflexCircaflex Well, I gotta go now. I’ve got a lotta bouncin’ to do! Members Posts: 727 ✭✭
    Stuart G. wrote:


    That was answered - but to clarify, yes you can.


    Thanks Stuart G., I was a little confused but reading the previous answer sure did mention it. Thanks though, I am pretty excited I can grab an m1 or m2 head and just drop it in. Thank you again.
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  • Mookie91Mookie91 Members Posts: 1,560 ✭✭
    Bump. Got a deal on an R15 shaft and would like to get a 2017 M2 head, compatible adapter?
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  • BrizamBrizam Junkie ClubWRX Posts: 948 ClubWRX
    edited Sep 9, 2017 #11
    Mookie91 wrote:


    Bump. Got a deal on an R15 shaft and would like to get a 2017 M2 head, compatible adapter?




    Yes you're good to go.
  • BobcatwongBobcatwong Members Posts: 3
    I have an older RBZ stage 1 driver (2012). Matrix Ozik XCon shaft. I'd like to get a 2016 M2 driver head. Would the 2012 Matrix shaft adaptor be compatibile with the 2016 M2 head?



    thanks
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    Bobcatwong wrote:


    I have an older RBZ stage 1 driver (2012). Matrix Ozik XCon shaft. I'd like to get a 2016 M2 driver head. Would the 2012 Matrix shaft adaptor be compatibile with the 2016 M2 head?



    thanks




    Sorry no. TM transitioned to the newer adapter design with the RBZ stage 2 - so stage 1 is not compatable with the newer heads.
  • jmac13jmac13 Members Posts: 741 ✭✭
    I’m LH and just picked up an M2. I have only owned Callaway drivers since the advent of interchangeable shafts/heads. So, I have a couple questions with regards to TM:



    1) Are TM tips that are RH backwards compatible like Callaway?



    2) How do you determine the lofts from an R1 shaft to an M2 9.5 head? What was the loft on the R1?
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    jmac13 wrote:


    I’m LH and just picked up an M2. I have only owned Callaway drivers since the advent of interchangeable shafts/heads. So, I have a couple questions with regards to TM:



    1) Are TM tips that are RH backwards compatible like Callaway?



    2) How do you determine the lofts from an R1 shaft to an M2 9.5 head? What was the loft on the R1?




    1. Yes.



    2. The R1 was based on a 10.0* head and the r1 adapter was +/- 2* - so each 'notch' adds ~2/3* (the labels are rounded numbers, not exactly accurate).
  • MoaningMMoaningM Members Posts: 1,346 ✭✭
    Quick question, will an adaptor and shaft used in a m2 2016 driver fit into a m1 3 wood?



    Cheers
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    MoaningM wrote:


    Quick question, will an adaptor and shaft used in a m2 2016 driver fit into a m1 3 wood?



    Cheers




    Yes.
  • MoaningMMoaningM Members Posts: 1,346 ✭✭
    Stuart G. wrote:

    MoaningM wrote:


    Quick question, will an adaptor and shaft used in a m2 2016 driver fit into a m1 3 wood?



    Cheers




    Yes.




    Thank you Stuart.
  • MoaningMMoaningM Members Posts: 1,346 ✭✭
    Stuart G. wrote:

    MoaningM wrote:


    Quick question, will an adaptor and shaft used in a m2 2016 driver fit into a m1 3 wood?



    Cheers




    Yes.




    Am I also correct in thinking that butt trimming a driver down will create a 3 wood of a similar play flex to the driver?



    Cheers once again appreciate the responses.
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    edited Jan 20, 2018 #20
    MoaningM wrote:


    Am I also correct in thinking that butt trimming a driver down will create a 3 wood of a similar play flex to the driver?



    Cheers once again appreciate the responses.




    Depends on what you do with the head weight. As the head weight goes up (e.g. using an actual 3wd head or adding weight to the driver to adjust SW for the shorter length), it can potentially soften up the shaft a little bit and may need a little bit of tipping to compensate. Most shaft manufacturers recommend some tipping for 3wd use. But everyone and every shaft is different.



    Also depends on where the shaft came from. Most TM factory installed adapters for driver shafts already have the shaft tipped 1" (which is really an excessive amount even for a 3wd).
  • MoaningMMoaningM Members Posts: 1,346 ✭✭
    edited Jan 26, 2018 #21
    Thank you Stuart



    I have a blank shaft at the moment and want to try it on my driver initially and if that doesn't fit pop it in my 3 wood and was hoping I wouldn't have to remove the adaptor.



    I believe the adaptors are one and the same in the taulormade m series for 16-17 can anyone confirm if it's the same for the new 18 model as well?
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    MoaningM wrote:


    Thank you Stuart



    I have a blank shaft at the moment and want to try it on my driver initially and if that doesn't fit pop it in my 3 wood and was hoping I wouldn't have to remove the adaptor.



    I believe the adaptors are one and the same in the taulormade m series for 16-17 can anyone confirm if it's the same for the new 18 model as well?




    Well depends on why it potentially didn't work in the driver. If it didn't work because it's too soft, then you'll likely need to do some tipping to use it in the 3wd as it will only play even more soft in the heavier head. But the tipping recommendations are only that, recommendations. Nothing wrong with trying it out in the 3wd w./o doing any tipping. I'd just recommend leaving some an extra 1" longer then you normally would play the 3wd and test it choking up on the club. That way you'll leave the room you need to do the tipping if it turns out too soft in the 3wd.



    Pretty sure they haven't changed the adapter design for '18 models. Just realize that some of the fairways (e.g. m2 and m4) no longer use an adapter.
  • London-HHLondon-HH Members Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited Feb 27, 2018 #23
    newbie mistake - post below
  • London-HHLondon-HH Members Posts: 7 ✭✭
    Stuart G. wrote:

    MoaningM wrote:


    Am I also correct in thinking that butt trimming a driver down will create a 3 wood of a similar play flex to the driver?



    Cheers once again appreciate the responses.




    Depends on what you do with the head weight. As the head weight goes up (e.g. using an actual 3wd head or adding weight to the driver to adjust SW for the shorter length), it can potentially soften up the shaft a little bit and may need a little bit of tipping to compensate. Most shaft manufacturers recommend some tipping for 3wd use. But everyone and every shaft is different.



    Also depends on where the shaft came from. Most TM factory installed adapters for driver shafts already have the shaft tipped 1" (which is really an excessive amount even for a 3wd).




    Hi Stuart,

    you say: Most TM factory installed adapters for driver shafts already have the shaft tipped 1"



    Does this also apply to the after-market shafts or just for the off-the-shelf models? This could explain why Ive always hated my RBZ Stage2 Driver - no head feel. Ive just bought a pulled Diamana Blueboard with TM adapter on eBay and now Im concerned that this will also have been tipped.



    Thanks
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    edited Feb 27, 2018 #25
    London-HH wrote:


    Hi Stuart,

    you say: Most TM factory installed adapters for driver shafts already have the shaft tipped 1"



    Does this also apply to the after-market shafts or just for the off-the-shelf models? This could explain why Ive always hated my RBZ Stage2 Driver - no head feel. Ive just bought a pulled Diamana Blueboard with TM adapter on eBay and now Im concerned that this will also have been tipped.



    Thanks




    It mostly applies to the custom upgrade shafts and (later) any stock shaft that were not a TM proprietary shaft - but only since about 2013 (SLDR release and later and maybe some of the R1 orders). Also, I haven't seen any evidence that they did that with the RBZ stage 2 shafts, or the Jetspeeds (or Aeroburners for that matter). But there is still a lot of confusion about when exactly they started and in what models.



    So more details on the history of that blueboard might be needed but if it's an original blueboard, it might have been from before they started doing that tipping even if it was a TM factory installed shaft. However, if it is a pull and has a TM adapter - doesn't that imply that it was installed in something else before the TM adapter was added?
  • 00ogopogo00ogopogo Poa Made Me an 8 Members Posts: 82 ✭✭
    Stuart, is the tipping done to help reduce breakage...warranty?


    Stuart G. wrote:

    MoaningM wrote:


    Am I also correct in thinking that butt trimming a driver down will create a 3 wood of a similar play flex to the driver?



    Cheers once again appreciate the responses.




    Depends on what you do with the head weight. As the head weight goes up (e.g. using an actual 3wd head or adding weight to the driver to adjust SW for the shorter length), it can potentially soften up the shaft a little bit and may need a little bit of tipping to compensate. Most shaft manufacturers recommend some tipping for 3wd use. But everyone and every shaft is different.



    Also depends on where the shaft came from. Most TM factory installed adapters for driver shafts already have the shaft tipped 1" (which is really an excessive amount even for a 3wd).
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    No, it has no effect on the durability of the shaft. To be perfectly honest, no one has a clue why they really do it.
  • jbro200jbro200 Members Posts: 1
    I have an R1 shaft and have found a 10.5 degree M4 head I want to purchase. I have a few questions!



    1. Will it fit?

    2. What will be the loft in the standard sleeve position? (I believe it is 10 degrees)

    3. How will this affect my face angle? (I'm assuming it'll be .5 degrees closed in the standard sleeve position)



    Thanks!
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    edited Apr 15, 2018 #29
    jbro200 wrote:


    I have an R1 shaft and have found a 10.5 degree M4 head I want to purchase. I have a few questions!



    1. Will it fit?

    2. What will be the loft in the standard sleeve position? (I believe it is 10 degrees)

    3. How will this affect my face angle? (I'm assuming it'll be .5 degrees closed in the standard sleeve position)



    Thanks!




    1. Yes

    2. 10.5* - the labeling on the adapter assumes a 10* head. So if you're using a 10.5* head, just add 1/2* to the lofts labeled on the adapter. It will be no different from using a stock M4 adapter - the r1 adapter is only different in how it's labeled, not in how it works.

    3. It wont in the standard (10*) position.
  • kobes31kobes31 EFF Members Posts: 785 ✭✭
    edited Apr 28, 2018 #30
    Wow I'm still REAL confused on this so I'm hoping somebody can clear up. I purchased a 2017 M1 440 head and, not knowing all this time about the different TM adapters bought this:

    https://m.ebay.com/itm/335-TP-Shaft-Adapter-Sleeve-For-TaylorMade-R15-SLDR-R1-RBZ-Stage-2-M1-Tour-Gloir/371683919238?hash=item568a168586:g:NzMAAOSwqfNXianf



    It adjusts 3 degrees. I have already prefitted the adapter into the head and yes it appears to fit but can somebody assure me this will work?



    Also I found this handy little chart for the 4 degree sleeves:

    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=4126600



    Does somebody have this for the 3 degree sleeve?
  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 22,937 ✭✭
    edited Apr 29, 2018 #31
    kobes31 wrote:


    Wow I'm still REAL confused on this so I'm hoping somebody can clear up. I purchased a 2017 M1 440 head and, not knowing all this time about the different TM adapters bought this:

    https://m.ebay.com/i...zMAAOSwqfNXianf



    It adjusts 3 degrees. I have already prefitted the adapter into the head and yes it appears to fit but can somebody assure me this will work?




    Yes - it will work just fine




    kobes31 wrote:


    Also I found this handy little chart for the 4 degree sleeves:

    http://www.golfwrx.c...tach_id=4126600



    Does somebody have this for the 3 degree sleeve?




    Do a google search for the SLDR tuning guide - that uses a +/- 1.5* adapter and should be close enough.



    It's really the same except the loft/lie increments are 0.5* instead of 2/3*.
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