Taylormade P790 Irons

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  • BravconBravcon Members Posts: 149 ✭✭
    yonghov wrote:
    Poser wrote:

    yonghov wrote:


    Hit mine for 3 rounds now. Like someone mentioned, the face looks pretty small at address (topline looks a bit chunky) and I'm not seeing a ton of added forgiveness coming from AP2.



    But most importantly, distance I'm getting with these clubs are just stupid and inconsistent. I'm seeing big gaps in between clubs, especially in mid-long irons. 7i avg is 194 and 6i 226, then 5i 245.



    I also get these flyers that seem to go a mile and some of these high avgs are a result of that. For 6i, my avg of eight shots was 226 but i had a high of 244 (and a low of 202, which I'm sure was not the best strike but it wasn't bad enough to delete). I have zero desire to hit these distances and these are just too wildly inconsistent for me. With AP2, I was confident that avg strike or flush strike, I was going to be within 10 yards and wasn't going to fly the green into the woods.



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    Could be the ball you don't have enough backspin across the board on your irons




    5i spin is definitely super low and probably 6i too. But with these jacked lofts, I'm really treating them as one club up (P790 6i as traditional 5i) and looking at it that way, spin numbers for 7i-GW don't look too out of place to me. I used V1x which is my gamer. As I understand, P790s are supposed to be lower spin and higher launch?



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    Coming from 714AP2/CB combo I needed to lower my launch, spin was decent, and p790s was solution my fitter went to with me. 718 AP2s were 2000rpm and 3 degrees higher launch with same shaft for 6i. Only other option was pxg which we didn’t try because I wasn’t about to pay that much $$$. Srixon was next best.



    But that was just me, I know others launch them higher.


    Not apples to apples. P790 6 iron is 26.5 degrees. 718 AP2 6 iron is 30 degrees.
  • rochestergolfer36rochestergolfer36 Members Posts: 61 ✭✭
    Bravcon wrote:
    yonghov wrote:
    Poser wrote:

    yonghov wrote:


    Hit mine for 3 rounds now. Like someone mentioned, the face looks pretty small at address (topline looks a bit chunky) and I'm not seeing a ton of added forgiveness coming from AP2.



    But most importantly, distance I'm getting with these clubs are just stupid and inconsistent. I'm seeing big gaps in between clubs, especially in mid-long irons. 7i avg is 194 and 6i 226, then 5i 245.



    I also get these flyers that seem to go a mile and some of these high avgs are a result of that. For 6i, my avg of eight shots was 226 but i had a high of 244 (and a low of 202, which I'm sure was not the best strike but it wasn't bad enough to delete). I have zero desire to hit these distances and these are just too wildly inconsistent for me. With AP2, I was confident that avg strike or flush strike, I was going to be within 10 yards and wasn't going to fly the green into the woods.



    440053217e4b96759116fb147f5d591a1e0fa615dba4529266681120ec24be09a0ff1755.jpg




    Could be the ball you don't have enough backspin across the board on your irons




    5i spin is definitely super low and probably 6i too. But with these jacked lofts, I'm really treating them as one club up (P790 6i as traditional 5i) and looking at it that way, spin numbers for 7i-GW don't look too out of place to me. I used V1x which is my gamer. As I understand, P790s are supposed to be lower spin and higher launch?



    pgatourstats.png?resize=680%2C503




    Coming from 714AP2/CB combo I needed to lower my launch, spin was decent, and p790s was solution my fitter went to with me. 718 AP2s were 2000rpm and 3 degrees higher launch with same shaft for 6i. Only other option was pxg which we didn’t try because I wasn’t about to pay that much $$$. Srixon was next best.



    But that was just me, I know others launch them higher.


    Not apples to apples. P790 6 iron is 26.5 degrees. 718 AP2 6 iron is 30 degrees.




    I disagree. Even if I hit P790 7 iron the spin would be lower than 6 iron in AP2.



    I don’t get people caring what lofts their irons are. It’s about getting the correct launch angles and spin rates. Then making sure your gapping all the distances. We do this with woods all the time and no one makes these points. Some people need lower lofted irons not for “fake” numbers but because they launch the ball so high.
  • larciellarciel I play for eagle Members Posts: 2,317 ✭✭
    Yes everyone has different swings and needs. For me I launch p790 7i same as ap2 7i. Weird but yeah I'm hitting p790 high and long.



    But had 6i flyer today. In fact, I've hit 6i as long as 5i and I'm getting it checked tomorrow
  • Pleasedwith3puttsPleasedwith3putts Members Posts: 1,735 ✭✭




    I disagree. Even if I hit P790 7 iron the spin would be lower than 6 iron in AP2.



    I don’t get people caring what lofts their irons are. It’s about getting the correct launch angles and spin rates. Then making sure your gapping all the distances. We do this with woods all the time and no one makes these points. Some people need lower lofted irons not for “fake” numbers but because they launch the ball so high.




    Taking your driver analogy, you wouldn't compare an 8 degree driver from one brand with a 10.5 degree from another and then discount the second brand as the 10.5 goes too high and you didn't compare it to the 8.



    That's what you are doing here, you need to use the same lofts to determine which head is working best for you and then build the set around that regardless of the number stamped on the bottom. De Chambeau doesn't even have numbers on his!



    If the TM790 gives you better numbers than anything else of the same loft then great, you've found your best fit. Until then it's not apples to apples and you might not be giving yourself the best fit.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,365 ✭✭





    I disagree. Even if I hit P790 7 iron the spin would be lower than 6 iron in AP2.



    I don’t get people caring what lofts their irons are. It’s about getting the correct launch angles and spin rates. Then making sure your gapping all the distances. We do this with woods all the time and no one makes these points. Some people need lower lofted irons not for “fake” numbers but because they launch the ball so high.




    Taking your driver analogy, you wouldn't compare an 8 degree driver from one brand with a 10.5 degree from another and then discount the second brand as the 10.5 goes too high and you didn't compare it to the 8.



    That's what you are doing here, you need to use the same lofts to determine which head is working best for you and then build the set around that regardless of the number stamped on the bottom. De Chambeau doesn't even have numbers on his!



    If the TM790 gives you better numbers than anything else of the same loft then great, you've found your best fit. Until then it's not apples to apples and you might not be giving yourself the best fit.




    The only way I personally evaluate irons is by how well the 150-yard one (whatever number and loft that might be) is easier to hit with my desired height, spin and direction than the 150 club in some other set. Same for 120 yards and 170 yards.



    I simply want the best set of clubs that cover my iron-set range of approximately 100-175 yards. If the soles said 17-18-19-20-21-22-Q-R instead of 4-5-6-7-8-9-P-G that would not bother me.



    Actually, that would be kind of cool. What did I hit on that Par 3? I had to hit the 22 because the Q wouldn’t carry the front bunker into that breeze.
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  • dlarocca1dlarocca1 Members Posts: 115 ✭✭
    I really don’t understand why clubs haven’t gone to just putting a loft number on the club instead of saying 6iron or 7iron. I mean I know the reason is so one company can say these irons are 15yards longer on average than every other company. It’s like yea that’s easy to do when your loft is 4 degrees stronger.
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,365 ✭✭
    dlarocca1 wrote:


    I really don’t understand why clubs haven’t gone to just putting a loft number on the club instead of saying 6iron or 7iron. I mean I know the reason is so one company can say these irons are 15yards longer on average than every other company. It’s like yea that’s easy to do when your loft is 4 degrees stronger.




    A company did exactly that. The product failed miserably.
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  • BravconBravcon Members Posts: 149 ✭✭

    dlarocca1 wrote:


    I really don’t understand why clubs haven’t gone to just putting a loft number on the club instead of saying 6iron or 7iron. I mean I know the reason is so one company can say these irons are 15yards longer on average than every other company. It’s like yea that’s easy to do when your loft is 4 degrees stronger.




    A company did exactly that. The product failed miserably.


    Ben Hogan irons? Think they do that.
  • rochestergolfer36rochestergolfer36 Members Posts: 61 ✭✭




    I disagree. Even if I hit P790 7 iron the spin would be lower than 6 iron in AP2.



    I don’t get people caring what lofts their irons are. It’s about getting the correct launch angles and spin rates. Then making sure your gapping all the distances. We do this with woods all the time and no one makes these points. Some people need lower lofted irons not for “fake” numbers but because they launch the ball so high.




    Taking your driver analogy, you wouldn't compare an 8 degree driver from one brand with a 10.5 degree from another and then discount the second brand as the 10.5 goes too high and you didn't compare it to the 8.



    That's what you are doing here, you need to use the same lofts to determine which head is working best for you and then build the set around that regardless of the number stamped on the bottom. De Chambeau doesn't even have numbers on his!



    If the TM790 gives you better numbers than anything else of the same loft then great, you've found your best fit. Until then it's not apples to apples and you might not be giving yourself the best fit.




    I hit my previous set (714 AP2/CB combo) and the new AP2s had higher flight and way more spin than those even for me. My spin on previous set was good, launch was main issue. But spin rates and launch angles on irons you can compare even if you aren’t hitting exact same clubs. If I spin a 6i at 7000, I have a very good idea what most of the other clubs numbers will be at. So while I didn’t hit two identical lofted clubs, I can use 6i in AP2 and 6i in P790 and have a pretty close idea of the entire set. Plus if I am launching a AP2 6i like 7i numbers then what good is that club doing for me anyway. By itself I can tell if a club isn’t the right fit, I don’t need to compare the two. The 5i you’d tell me to try wouldn’t help solve anything. So even comparing apples to apples wouldn’t change my thinking of this isn’t the club for me.
  • taylormade4lifetaylormade4life Members Posts: 1,314 ✭✭
    edited Jun 21, 2018 #3011
    Finally got my UDI and although I only had a few swings on my first 18, I was very impressed. I had a few tee shots and a few second shots and it is long. My tee shots were carrying 240-245 and off the deck I was getting about 230-235. It may replace my 5 wood for some courses.



    Lot of shots left to hit but first impressions were good. Think this may be the DI I stick with. Fwiw I got the hzrdus 85 and although it's light, I get a very mid boring flight.



    Pros: distance, feel, looks, relatively versatile (hit one out of the rough on a par 5 and had no issue)



    Cons: weight with stock setup. Slightly higher launch than I thought I would get, but not high spin.



    Edit: added side by side with my 716 CB 3-iron. (3-iron has steel)
  • dlarocca1dlarocca1 Members Posts: 115 ✭✭
    Finally got my UDI and although I only had a few swings on my first 18, I was very impressed. I had a few tee shots and a few second shots and it is long. My tee shots were carrying 240-245 and off the deck I was getting about 230-235. It may replace my 5 wood for some courses.



    Lot of shots left to hit but first impressions were good. Think this may be the DI I stick with. Fwiw I got the hzrdus 85 and although it's light, I get a very mid boring flight.



    Pros: distance, feel, looks, relatively versatile (hit one out of the rough on a par 5 and had no issue)



    Cons: weight with stock setup. Slightly higher launch than I thought I would get, but not high spin.



    Edit: added side by side with my 716 CB 3-iron. (3-iron has steel)




    Can’t wait to get my hands on mine, I’ve never played Driving Irons but I hit this one and fell in love.
  • fredstarfredstar Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    yonghov wrote:

    Poser wrote:

    yonghov wrote:


    Hit mine for 3 rounds now. Like someone mentioned, the face looks pretty small at address (topline looks a bit chunky) and I'm not seeing a ton of added forgiveness coming from AP2.



    But most importantly, distance I'm getting with these clubs are just stupid and inconsistent. I'm seeing big gaps in between clubs, especially in mid-long irons. 7i avg is 194 and 6i 226, then 5i 245.



    I also get these flyers that seem to go a mile and some of these high avgs are a result of that. For 6i, my avg of eight shots was 226 but i had a high of 244 (and a low of 202, which I'm sure was not the best strike but it wasn't bad enough to delete). I have zero desire to hit these distances and these are just too wildly inconsistent for me. With AP2, I was confident that avg strike or flush strike, I was going to be within 10 yards and wasn't going to fly the green into the woods.



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    Could be the ball you don't have enough backspin across the board on your irons




    5i spin is definitely super low and probably 6i too. But with these jacked lofts, I'm really treating them as one club up (P790 6i as traditional 5i) and looking at it that way, spin numbers for 7i-GW don't look too out of place to me. I used V1x which is my gamer. As I understand, P790s are supposed to be lower spin and higher launch?



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    ****....You are hitting your 6 iron 25 yards further than PGA Tour average and playing off 7?! Can you not putt or what?
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  • want2bprowant2bpro Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    looking at the TM tour averages, it makes you feel good...then i remember they are not hitting a 30.5 degree 7i image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • fredstarfredstar Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
    want2bpro wrote:


    looking at the TM tour averages, it makes you feel good...then i remember they are not hitting a 30.5 degree 7i image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    this guys 6i carry is almost tour 3i average lol
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  • SefSef Members Posts: 915 ✭✭
    yonghov wrote:
    Hit mine for 3 rounds now. Like someone mentioned, the face looks pretty small at address (topline looks a bit chunky) and I'm not seeing a ton of added forgiveness coming from AP2.



    But most importantly, distance I'm getting with these clubs are just stupid and inconsistent. I'm seeing big gaps in between clubs, especially in mid-long irons. 7i avg is 194 and 6i 226, then 5i 245.



    I also get these flyers that seem to go a mile and some of these high avgs are a result of that. For 6i, my avg of eight shots was 226 but i had a high of 244 (and a low of 202, which I'm sure was not the best strike but it wasn't bad enough to delete). I have zero desire to hit these distances and these are just too wildly inconsistent for me. With AP2, I was confident that avg strike or flush strike, I was going to be within 10 yards and wasn't going to fly the green into the woods.



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    If I were you I would question these numbers all together. What launch monitor was used? To replicate 224 carry with 137mph ball speed altitude has to be set to around 4,000 ft.



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  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,707 ✭✭
    fredstar wrote:

    yonghov wrote:

    Poser wrote:

    yonghov wrote:


    Hit mine for 3 rounds now. Like someone mentioned, the face looks pretty small at address (topline looks a bit chunky) and I'm not seeing a ton of added forgiveness coming from AP2.



    But most importantly, distance I'm getting with these clubs are just stupid and inconsistent. I'm seeing big gaps in between clubs, especially in mid-long irons. 7i avg is 194 and 6i 226, then 5i 245.



    I also get these flyers that seem to go a mile and some of these high avgs are a result of that. For 6i, my avg of eight shots was 226 but i had a high of 244 (and a low of 202, which I'm sure was not the best strike but it wasn't bad enough to delete). I have zero desire to hit these distances and these are just too wildly inconsistent for me. With AP2, I was confident that avg strike or flush strike, I was going to be within 10 yards and wasn't going to fly the green into the woods.



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    Could be the ball you don't have enough backspin across the board on your irons




    5i spin is definitely super low and probably 6i too. But with these jacked lofts, I'm really treating them as one club up (P790 6i as traditional 5i) and looking at it that way, spin numbers for 7i-GW don't look too out of place to me. I used V1x which is my gamer. As I understand, P790s are supposed to be lower spin and higher launch?



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    ****....You are hitting your 6 iron 25 yards further than PGA Tour average and playing off 7?! Can you not putt or what?




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  • want2bprowant2bpro Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    fredstar wrote:

    want2bpro wrote:


    looking at the TM tour averages, it makes you feel good...then i remember they are not hitting a 30.5 degree 7i image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    this guys 6i carry is almost tour 3i average lol
    very true....quite impressive lol
  • Tiptx1122Tiptx1122 TMPing Members Posts: 1,651 ✭✭
    edited Jun 24, 2018 #3019
    I just picked up my set as I coming from Apex CF 16 which gave me a good 2 1/2 years of golf. I just like the feel better and the looks better with the P 790's. They are a 1/2 longer and more forgiving so why not make the switch. So many other brands I tried but I'm not expecting big improvements in my scoring as I'm just out for fun and something that can help make the game a bit easier. I have been dealing with Bursitis in my left elbow so playing while in pain can be frustrating as most of my problems come from the driver. That has gotten better since I made an earlier switch as this is about the P790.



    Yes the lofts are strong as I had a 12 mph cross wind and hit my 6 iron 172 yds over water, elevated green hard to hold, to within 3 inches. Ball flight was piercing and straight as an arrow. Hit my 5 iron same wind direction on a par 3 187 yds just left of the green by 12 yds. but pin level. Stuck an 8 iron wind in my face over water on a par 3 148 yds. to within 4 ft. I only played 9 holes but walked away very impressed with the way they performed as I didn't have a good swing today. Nothing ballooned on me and never had a problems with yardage between clubs, no fliers for me.



    I wasn't even sure if I wanted to play because of the wind but glad I did and glad I went with the P790's as TaylorMade has a winner on their hands. There are a lot of nice brands out there as Im not saying I could not have done good with any other brand but to me they look the best out of all of them. I didn't want something with fancy badges or cavity design with multi colors or 15 different screws or shovels as I know they are TaylorMades and people seem to love bashing them as I used to be one of them but seriously TaylorMade not only makes great drivers they make great irons too.
  • want2bprowant2bpro Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    when i first bought the 790s i was terrified at the gapping- i think i may have finally gotten dialed in and i do really like these clubs.

    love the feel, love the look.



    for whomever also experienced gapping issues, have you guys been able to get a handle on these? ive seen some decide to sell their irons; i considered this, but i am happy i gave this some time.
  • bird_4_3bird_4_3 Members Posts: 601 ✭✭
    Had these since Oct and as a guy who just loves to trade golf clubs, I am really satisfied with these irons. I have been a TM hater over the years, but no more! My bag is beginning to turn mostly TM. These irons and the M4 driver have been fantastic for me.
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  • cardia10cardia10 Members Posts: 2,452 ✭✭
    edited Jun 25, 2018 #3022
    I need the lofts checked on mine as I played a weekend tournament and was consistently hitting 195 yard 7 irons. That is a 25 yard increase over my AP2 712 with stock lofts. Guess I could dump the 4 and 5? That wouldn’t be a problem, but the 8 iron is only 165. 30 yard gaps are no bueno. No onset the pro’s don’t play these things! When I asked about bending them, the shop balked and said TM says not to due to the foam?? You would think foam is slightly flexible, especially since we aren’t bending the face. What is the most anyone has bent these on their own?
  • chisagchisag Members Posts: 2,981 ✭✭
    edited Jun 25, 2018 #3023
    ... Other than my pw to sw, I experienced no gapping issues with mine or any distance control problems. I bent mine 2* up and my 5-pw 1* weak with no problem. The foam has to do with bending the hosel. If you custom order them from the TM website you have the option of having them bent 2* in either direction for loft and 4* for lie, so your shop isn't being honest with you.
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  • odshot68odshot68 Members Posts: 7,886 ✭✭
    I had my shop bend my 3 iron 1 degree flat. Didn’t seem to be an issues with these.

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  • want2bprowant2bpro Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    cardia10 wrote:


    I need the lofts checked on mine as I played a weekend tournament and was consistently hitting 195 yard 7 irons. That is a 25 yard increase over my AP2 712 with stock lofts. Guess I could dump the 4 and 5? That wouldn't be a problem, but the 8 iron is only 165. 30 yard gaps are no bueno. No onset the pro's don't play these things! When I asked about bending them, the shop balked and said TM says not to due to the foam?? You would think foam is slightly flexible, especially since we aren't bending the face. What is the most anyone has bent these on their own?
    when i first began using these, the gaps were HUGE. also had about 25 yards between my 7 and 8i. the lofts and lies were all off, literally each club.
  • larciellarciel I play for eagle Members Posts: 2,317 ✭✭
    Seeing increasing# of p790 on bst.



    Still, I can't find better alternative
  • 2Bad4u2Bad4u Members Posts: 212 ✭✭
    larciel wrote:


    Seeing increasing# of p790 on bst.



    Still, I can't find better alternative




    The most common reason I'm hearing as to whey they trading in their P790's is lack of consistent distance control, and that's the reason I'm looking a new irons for myself. I was considering the P790's previous to this, but now I'm considering the i500's or a G700/i500 combo for better distance control and holding greens.
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  • justincredible04justincredible04 Justincase1004 Members Posts: 2,213 ✭✭
    cardia10 wrote:
    I need the lofts checked on mine as I played a weekend tournament and was consistently hitting 195 yard 7 irons. That is a 25 yard increase over my AP2 712 with stock lofts. Guess I could dump the 4 and 5? That wouldn’t be a problem, but the 8 iron is only 165. 30 yard gaps are no bueno. No onset the pro’s don’t play these things! When I asked about bending them, the shop balked and said TM says not to due to the foam?? You would think foam is slightly flexible, especially since we aren’t bending the face. What is the most anyone has bent these on their own?




    I had a similar experience. I’m not a long hitter but slightly above average. 184 to the pin with a very large carry. My first time playing these so I do my quick math. It would be a 6 iron in my JPX so I’m going to hit a 7 iron P790...carried the ball 185 and couldn’t hold the green. About 190 total. I gotta get used to these gaps, but the my surprisingly feel very solid. They do not feel hollow at all
  • eebombeebomb Members Posts: 564 ✭✭
    edited Jun 25, 2018 #3029
    I didn't see any distance increase in these. Hit my ping ie1 which are 1.5 degrees strong just as far and to me they feel a little better. The sw is what throws me off with p790. They feel extremely heavy and alot of work to put a good swing on. Same recoil 95 F4 shaft as my pings. Really wanted to like these
  • new2g0lfnew2g0lf Members Posts: 3,426 ✭✭
    P790's are about a club longer than my Callaway Epics, which are pretty long. I do hit the occasional flyer with them but not enough to make me want to get rid of them.
    Driver - Home Ping G410 + 9.5*   Away Ping G400 Max 10*
    Woods - XXIO 10 3W
    Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
    Irons - Home - PXG Gen 2 0311P 5-SW   Away - Callaway Apex CF-19 5-SW
    Wedge - PXG 58* 
    Putter - Seemore Nashville mFGP2 SS Mallet Black
    Ball - KSig, TM TP5X, Snell MTB
  • larciellarciel I play for eagle Members Posts: 2,317 ✭✭
    edited Jun 26, 2018 #3031
    Well, the flier bug has infected my set too. my 6i is going as far as 5i, and 20yds more than my 7i. I've checked the loft and lie and it's std.



    Could be just my feeling but 6i feels lighter than other clubs.



    I'm going to have store weigh it tomorrow. if I can't find the cause, I might have to drop this set image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />





    *swing weight is same across the irons.. I'm gonna have to sell this set ....
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