Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.
Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
Never forget that the luxury of being
wrong is not enough to make you right. WITB Link
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
So for me even in a stock configuration the new drivers were longer than my well fit gamer. Once the world class fitters got involved it was game over.
#TheWRX 12/11/16 Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6 Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8 Apex 20* AD IZ 85 Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper Toulon Austin Longneck Garage Jones Utility Rover Chromesoft X
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400 Odyssey O Works R-Line Taylormade TP5X
Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.
Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
How is that not a valid question...
The guy who had the Tour V 120 x said after hitting a few balls the fitter said the shaft isn't giving good dispersion. I'm asking how can you attribute that to the shaft on the swing of an amateur.
Are you saying a fitter (one of the best in the business), listening to the golfer, won't be able to identify a mis hit vs the result of the equipment?
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue SZ 9*; Aldila Rogue Silver 70X
TM M1 3W; Aldila Rogue Silver 70X
TM M2 3H; TaylorMade REAX 75S
Srixon 765 4-PW; Modus Tour 120S
Callaway MD Forged 50*, 54*, 60*; KBS Wedge 120
GP Tour Wrap Grips on Irons/Wedges
GP MCC 4 on Woods
Bettinardi DASS BB0 w/ FIT Face[/font]
Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.
Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
How is that not a valid question...
The guy who had the Tour V 120 x said after hitting a few balls the fitter said the shaft isn't giving good dispersion. I'm asking how can you attribute that to the shaft on the swing of an amateur.
Not sure why I'm getting laughed at
Sorry, it must have been your wording. While doing the fittings we intentionally threw the really bad swings out as that's not a fair representation of the technology. We did that with both our gamers and new fits. Even when I hit the shafts that didn't work out well the dispersion had a wider range than the Tour V 120X so we went with that. Pros mishit balls too so I'm sure these guys throw out poor strikes for them too.
If a fitter sees a trend of multiple poor strikes with one configuration then it's probably not worth trying too hard to find some good strikes.
#TheWRX 12/11/16 Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6 Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8 Apex 20* AD IZ 85 Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper Toulon Austin Longneck Garage Jones Utility Rover Chromesoft X
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400 Odyssey O Works R-Line Taylormade TP5X
I love the "New 2017 Callaway Driver" but since I can't show it, here's something for you...
Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert
Yes sir.
Rob owes me another trip for finding it in Austie's office. /pimp.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pimp:' /> /cheesy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />
#TheWRX 12/11/16 Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6 Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8 Apex 20* AD IZ 85 Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper Toulon Austin Longneck Garage Jones Utility Rover Chromesoft X
Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
Why would you think they are not repeatable just because they are amateurs? That's not really the difference between pros and amateurs. If you look at the difference through monitor results, you'll find that neither really change all the much.
TM Supertri V2 w/ Matrix Ozik Code 6.2
Callaway 3Deep w/ 73 BB Taylormade P790 2 UDI w/ DG 105R Taylormade P790 3 iron w/ DG AMT White R300 4-PW Nike VR Pro MBs w/ DG AMT White R300
Callaway MD3 52* & 58* PM grind (both X100 8 iron SS)
Odyssey MXM 1W
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
I think you guys got the highest level of fitting there is to get. It's not the same as going to Golf Galaxy and having some dude rotate through the 4 stock shafts and tell you which one looks the best for you. I told Q this several times, but I was equally jealous of the opportunity to get that fitting as I was the opportunity to get all the free stuff. I think a proper equipment fitting can work wonders, especially when you have all of the options available that you guys had at the ECPC. For example, if you fit into an X flex shaft, what's the most possible options you'll get at a regular store/range fitting - maybe get 2 shafts to choose between? Honestly, I stopped worrying about launch monitor fittings years ago. I just go by ball flight and feel, because I know whatever fitting I can get at a "normal" spot would be about as good as I can fit myself with my own two eyes. The next time I want a real fitting, I'm going to the TPI, or to Callaway, or to Cool Clubs or something like that. No point to the others in my opinion, provided that you're already reasonably well versed in ball flight, equipment performance, etc.
So all of y'all that went... Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
So for me even in a stock configuration the new drivers were longer than my well fit gamer. Once the world class fitters got involved it was game over.
That is what I was looking for and thought. Some people are doubters of the technology involved in the new EPIC heads. Yall were fitted by world class fitters, so that enhances everything but the bone stock driver was out performing yours...
So all of y'all that went... Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
Another example for some, the technology in this head has been years in the making and it just flat out produces. I know the world class fitting got your grouping even tighter, which why most people should get fitted.
Also, doesn’t hurt to have your swing /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.
Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
You can always count on MM to give those type posts.
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
I think you guys got the highest level of fitting there is to get. It's not the same as going to Golf Galaxy and having some dude rotate through the 4 stock shafts and tell you which one looks the best for you. I told Q this several times, but I was equally jealous of the opportunity to get that fitting as I was the opportunity to get all the free stuff. I think a proper equipment fitting can work wonders, especially when you have all of the options available that you guys had at the ECPC. For example, if you fit into an X flex shaft, what's the most possible options you'll get at a regular store/range fitting - maybe get 2 shafts to choose between? Honestly, I stopped worrying about launch monitor fittings years ago. I just go by ball flight and feel, because I know whatever fitting I can get at a "normal" spot would be about as good as I can fit myself with my own two eyes. The next time I want a real fitting, I'm going to the TPI, or to Callaway, or to Cool Clubs or something like that. No point to the others in my opinion, provided that you're already reasonably well versed in ball flight, equipment performance, etc.
I couldn't agree more. I think the spec sheets you came home with (along with remembering what felt right to you during testing) may be the most valuable swag from the trip.
Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.
Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
You can always count on MM to give those type posts.
Ok so since you guys had a Trackman, did your path, face, aoa, etc. #'s all stay the same to be able to deduce that it is indeed the shaft that in changing the outcome?
Ok so since you guys had a Trackman, did your path, face, aoa, etc. #'s all stay the same to be able to deduce that it is indeed the shaft that in changing the outcome?
No, my path, face, AOA, etc. did not stay the exact same on every swing. I'm not that good; I don't know anyone who is.
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400 Odyssey O Works R-Line Taylormade TP5X
(EDIT: These are actual numbers taken with wind in and off the right. He also had normalized numbers listed on his screen. Flightscope Optimizer calculates the third New 2017 Driver at 291.9 carry.)
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400 Odyssey O Works R-Line Taylormade TP5X
MM, does any of that matter? If you have a representative sample set you can see differences between clubs/shafts. Shafts will likely change those variables, some for the good and some not. Your pro versus amateur swing point only changes the number of swings needing to be taken to get a sample set. Basic stats issue.
MM, does any of that matter? If you have a representative sample set you can see differences between clubs/shafts. Shafts will likely change those variables, some for the good and some not. Your pro versus amateur swing point only changes the number of swings needing to be taken to get a sample set. Basic stats issue.
Yes, Callaway themselves were adamant that the Pros will see gains with the new clubs but nothing like what some of us experienced because they're already optimum.
#TheWRX 12/11/16 Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6 Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8 Apex 20* AD IZ 85 Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper Toulon Austin Longneck Garage Jones Utility Rover Chromesoft X
I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just genuinely curious. I've never had a top-level fitting before, and I worked in a local shop for a long time as a fitter, and with 99.9% of players its really more about just trying to get what feels comfortable and if possible result in more consistent strikes, but to notice a dispersion improvement as a result of the shaft and not random chance is hard
(EDIT: These are actual numbers taken with wind in and off the right. He also had normalized numbers listed on his screen. Flightscope Optimizer calculates the third New 2017 Driver at 291.9 carry.)
The consistency in all of your numbers is very impressive! Explains why you shot 70 at Torrey and had the potential for an even lower round. Color me JEALOUS!
I think the thing I was most surprised about was the sound of the New 2017 Driver. It reminds me of the last Callaway club I had in the bag, the Razr Hawk Tour. It is muted but solid. I think you can hear it in the videos posted; it is an addicting sound off the face.
RHT was also the last Cally club in my bag. Oh my.... I think I'm going to be in love again!
917 D2 8.50* - Tensei CK Pro White 60
917 F2 13.5* - Rogue Max 70
816 H2 19.0* - D+ Plus 90
716 T-MB (3i, 4i) - Modus 120
716 CB (5-PW) - Modus 120
Hogan TK15 - 49, 55
Edel Deschutes
I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just genuinely curious. I've never had a top-level fitting before, and I worked in a local shop for a long time as a fitter, and with 99.9% of players its really more about just trying to get what feels comfortable and if possible result in more consistent strikes, but to notice a dispersion improvement as a result of the shaft and not random chance is hard
That's where you as a fitter need to have the ability to see that your customer is striking a ball poorly because of change in spec. Get the baseline first with their current club and pay attention to their numbers along with their swing. You need to be able to differentiate between bad swings and a poor fit causing bad swings. Nick couldn't take the C-Tapers out of my hands fast enough. He noticed that I wasn't loading the shaft and my tempo increased to try and force the load causing an increase in dispersion.
#TheWRX 12/11/16 Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6 Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8 Apex 20* AD IZ 85 Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper Toulon Austin Longneck Garage Jones Utility Rover Chromesoft X
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Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
wrong is not enough to make you right.
WITB Link
Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
So for me even in a stock configuration the new drivers were longer than my well fit gamer. Once the world class fitters got involved it was game over.
Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
Apex 20* AD IZ 85
Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto
MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper
Toulon Austin Longneck Garage
Jones Utility Rover
Chromesoft X
A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX
Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX
Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
Odyssey O Works R-Line
Taylormade TP5X
QMany's Swing/Sticks / Instagram
How is that not a valid question...
The guy who had the Tour V 120 x said after hitting a few balls the fitter said the shaft isn't giving good dispersion. I'm asking how can you attribute that to the shaft on the swing of an amateur.
Not sure why I'm getting laughed at
TM M1 3W; Aldila Rogue Silver 70X
TM M2 3H; TaylorMade REAX 75S
Srixon 765 4-PW; Modus Tour 120S
Callaway MD Forged 50*, 54*, 60*; KBS Wedge 120
GP Tour Wrap Grips on Irons/Wedges
GP MCC 4 on Woods
Bettinardi DASS BB0 w/ FIT Face[/font]
Sorry, it must have been your wording. While doing the fittings we intentionally threw the really bad swings out as that's not a fair representation of the technology. We did that with both our gamers and new fits. Even when I hit the shafts that didn't work out well the dispersion had a wider range than the Tour V 120X so we went with that. Pros mishit balls too so I'm sure these guys throw out poor strikes for them too.
If a fitter sees a trend of multiple poor strikes with one configuration then it's probably not worth trying too hard to find some good strikes.
Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
Apex 20* AD IZ 85
Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto
MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper
Toulon Austin Longneck Garage
Jones Utility Rover
Chromesoft X
Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert
DRIVER: Callaway Rogue SZ 9°– Fujikura ATMOS Black 8x
3 WOOD: TEE EX9 Tour 13° – Fujikura ATMOS Red 8X
5 WOOD: Cobra F6 Baffler 16° – Aldila Tour Green 95 X-Stiff
3 HYBRID: Cobra KING F7 19° – Aldila Tour Green 105 X-Stiff
IRONS (4-P): Callaway Apex Pro '19 – KBS $-Taper 130 X-Stiff
WEDGES: Scor 4161 52° + Vokey Low Bounce K 58° – N.S. PRO Modus³ Tour 130 X-Stiff
PUTTER: Evnroll ER2
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Had a great week with the boys @GolfWRX #cameraissues
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX
Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX
Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
Odyssey O Works R-Line
Taylormade TP5X
QMany's Swing/Sticks / Instagram
Yes sir.
Rob owes me another trip for finding it in Austie's office.
Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
Apex 20* AD IZ 85
Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto
MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper
Toulon Austin Longneck Garage
Jones Utility Rover
Chromesoft X
Why would you think they are not repeatable just because they are amateurs? That's not really the difference between pros and amateurs. If you look at the difference through monitor results, you'll find that neither really change all the much.
Callaway 3Deep w/ 73 BB
Taylormade P790 2 UDI w/ DG 105R
Taylormade P790 3 iron w/ DG AMT White R300
4-PW Nike VR Pro MBs w/ DG AMT White R300
Callaway MD3 52* & 58* PM grind (both X100 8 iron SS)
Odyssey MXM 1W
I think you guys got the highest level of fitting there is to get. It's not the same as going to Golf Galaxy and having some dude rotate through the 4 stock shafts and tell you which one looks the best for you. I told Q this several times, but I was equally jealous of the opportunity to get that fitting as I was the opportunity to get all the free stuff. I think a proper equipment fitting can work wonders, especially when you have all of the options available that you guys had at the ECPC. For example, if you fit into an X flex shaft, what's the most possible options you'll get at a regular store/range fitting - maybe get 2 shafts to choose between? Honestly, I stopped worrying about launch monitor fittings years ago. I just go by ball flight and feel, because I know whatever fitting I can get at a "normal" spot would be about as good as I can fit myself with my own two eyes. The next time I want a real fitting, I'm going to the TPI, or to Callaway, or to Cool Clubs or something like that. No point to the others in my opinion, provided that you're already reasonably well versed in ball flight, equipment performance, etc.
That is what I was looking for and thought. Some people are doubters of the technology involved in the new EPIC heads. Yall were fitted by world class fitters, so that enhances everything but the bone stock driver was out performing yours...
Another example for some, the technology in this head has been years in the making and it just flat out produces. I know the world class fitting got your grouping even tighter, which why most people should get fitted.
Also, doesn’t hurt to have your swing
Congrats again guys!
If you are crunched for time look into their Sunrise 9 deal http://golfwdw.com/sunrise-9/
You can always count on MM to give those type posts.
TM M1 430 8.5* Tour Issue w/ Tensei CK Pro White 70s (with high gloss SLDR finish from Continental Golf)
Titleist 917 F3 15* D+ 80s
Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)
Ping Scottsdale TR B60
TP Mills Heritage 349g
Byron Morgan 006 355g
Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
C&L CL1 368g
Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
I couldn't agree more. I think the spec sheets you came home with (along with remembering what felt right to you during testing) may be the most valuable swag from the trip.
Ok so since you guys had a Trackman, did your path, face, aoa, etc. #'s all stay the same to be able to deduce that it is indeed the shaft that in changing the outcome?
No, my path, face, AOA, etc. did not stay the exact same on every swing. I'm not that good; I don't know anyone who is.
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX
Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX
Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
Odyssey O Works R-Line
Taylormade TP5X
QMany's Swing/Sticks / Instagram
PING G30 + 45.75" Alta 55 X fit at PING HQ:
Callaway New 2017 Driver + varying 45" 70 X fit at ECPC:
(EDIT: These are actual numbers taken with wind in and off the right. He also had normalized numbers listed on his screen. Flightscope Optimizer calculates the third New 2017 Driver at 291.9 carry.)
Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro White 70TX
Callaway GBB Epic SZ (15°) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80TX
Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
Odyssey O Works R-Line
Taylormade TP5X
QMany's Swing/Sticks / Instagram
WITB Link
Yes, Callaway themselves were adamant that the Pros will see gains with the new clubs but nothing like what some of us experienced because they're already optimum.
Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
Apex 20* AD IZ 85
Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto
MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper
Toulon Austin Longneck Garage
Jones Utility Rover
Chromesoft X
The consistency in all of your numbers is very impressive! Explains why you shot 70 at Torrey and had the potential for an even lower round. Color me JEALOUS!
RHT was also the last Cally club in my bag. Oh my.... I think I'm going to be in love again!
917 F2 13.5* - Rogue Max 70
816 H2 19.0* - D+ Plus 90
716 T-MB (3i, 4i) - Modus 120
716 CB (5-PW) - Modus 120
Hogan TK15 - 49, 55
Edel Deschutes
Photo WITB
If you have to say "I'm not trying to be a dick" ... well, you know.
No need to ruin a great thread.
That's where you as a fitter need to have the ability to see that your customer is striking a ball poorly because of change in spec. Get the baseline first with their current club and pay attention to their numbers along with their swing. You need to be able to differentiate between bad swings and a poor fit causing bad swings. Nick couldn't take the C-Tapers out of my hands fast enough. He noticed that I wasn't loading the shaft and my tempo increased to try and force the load causing an increase in dispersion.
Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
Apex 20* AD IZ 85
Apex Pro 19 4-PW KBS Proto
MD4 52s, 56s, 60x KBS $-Taper
Toulon Austin Longneck Garage
Jones Utility Rover
Chromesoft X
The Callaway guys thanked me for taking such great care of their grass lol (I basically don't take divots)
Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w/Matrix Black Tie 80
Callaway Steelhead XR 18 w/S300
Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
Callaway MD Forged 52,56 w/S300
Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/s300
SGC Northwood Center Shaft 400g