No new acquistions...?

[Greggle]

1 hour ago, FloggingOkie said:

Good haul today for $23

Kenneth Smith iron set 3 - 9
  Early Wilson Sandy Andy R61 wedge
  Wilson Sandy Andy becu R61 wedge
  Wilson staff pitching wedge

 Wilson staff sand wedge (says JB custom grind?)
  Wilson R90W pitching wedge
  Wilson 1 iron (mid 80's?) unused
  Cobra dyn 2 iron
  Arnold Palmer Tru-Matic 2 iron and PW
Fernquest Johnson putter

 curious to find out more about these.

 

Oh, that kenneth smith set! Does it have the leather grips with #s on the end? My favorite club is a 19 wedge which is in my bag today. It's just so nice from 30 yards in. They are just such beautifully made clubs. And I do find the names interesting too. Part of golf's draw is heritage and history. Incidentally, my clubs were custom for Art Hill and Sally Butz. No relation, that i know of.

That's a great haul.

[FloggingOkie]

21 minutes ago, Greggle said:

Oh, that kenneth smith set! Does it have the leather grips with #s on the end? My favorite club is a 19 wedge which is in my bag today. It's just so nice from 30 yards in. They are just such beautifully made clubs. And I do find the names interesting too. Part of golf's draw is heritage and history. Incidentally, my clubs were custom for Art Hill and Sally Butz. No relation, that i know of.

That's a great haul.

I have a 19 wedge. Got it from the same place several weeks ago. 

[bcstones]

3 hours ago, FloggingOkie said:

Fernquest Johnson putter curious to find out more 

I have a Tony Lema 1 iron by Fernquest Johnson...if you put the name in the search engine here, you'll come up with a number of postings about F&J

[FloggingOkie]

11 hours ago, FloggingOkie said:

Good haul today for $23

Kenneth Smith iron set 3 - 9
  Early Wilson Sandy Andy R61 wedge
  Wilson Sandy Andy becu R61 wedge
  Wilson staff pitching wedge

 Wilson staff sand wedge (says JB custom grind?)
  Wilson R90W pitching wedge
  Wilson 1 iron (mid 80's?) unused
  Cobra dyn 2 iron
  Arnold Palmer Tru-Matic 2 iron and PW
Fernquest Johnson putter

 curious to find out more about these.

 

This pic got left off somehow. Says JP custom grind 

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

34 minutes ago, FloggingOkie said:

This pic got left off somehow. Says JP custom grind 

Hard to go wrong with a JP Custom Grind. I've 3 or 4 of them, and they're all great.

[FloggingOkie]

10 hours ago, FloggingOkie said:

I have a 19 wedge. Got it from the same place several weeks ago. 

BTW thats no on the leather grips, they have the black & green swing rite grips. I always look into the old owners names on my gear as well. It interesting to see for some odd reason.

[bcstones]

1 hour ago, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

JP Custom Grind

ok, I forget....what does the "JP" stand for?

[Shallowface]

4 minutes ago, bcstones said:

ok, I forget....what does the "JP" stand for?

Joe Phillips, who was Wilson's Tour rep at that time.

 

I never was sure exactly what was special about the grind.  The sole certainly doesn't have the contours available as stock models today.  It doesn't get narrower toward the heel, and it's been so long since I've seen one in person I don't recall if it had reduced bounce toward the heel.  It's a great wedge, but I just don't know what "custom grind" meant in this case. 

[bcstones]

15 minutes ago, Shallowface said:

Joe Phillips, who was Wilson's Tour rep at that time.

 

I never was sure exactly what was special about the grind.  The sole certainly doesn't have the contours available as stock models today.  It doesn't get narrower toward the heel, and it's been so long since I've seen one in person I don't recall if it had reduced bounce toward the heel.  It's a great wedge, but I just don't know what "custom grind" meant in this case. 

Thanks....I don't exactly know what is "custom" - I have a number of Hogan custom grinds & they all looks the same to me...there is probably someone in the forum who knows alot more

[Shallowface]

10 hours ago, bcstones said:

Thanks....I don't exactly know what is "custom" - I have a number of Hogan custom grinds & they all looks the same to me...there is probably someone in the forum who knows alot more

"Custom Grind" is on all of those wedges of that model and the JP II.  It doesn't mean someone had it custom made.  Wilson made thousands upon thousands of those wedges with that stamping.

 

I just don't know what was special about them.  Back then the Ping products were about the only stock offerings that had any enhancements to their sole design.  "Custom Grind" implies there was something about the design that was different than a stock model, but nothing in the catalogs or the advertising ever said what it was.     

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

1 hour ago, Shallowface said:

"Custom Grind" is on all of those wedges of that model and the JP II.  It doesn't mean someone had it custom made.  Wilson made thousands upon thousands of those wedges with that stamping.

 

I just don't know what was special about them.  Back then the Ping products were about the only stock offerings that had any enhancements to their sole design.  "Custom Grind" implies there was something about the design that was different than a stock model, but nothing in the catalogs or the advertising ever said what it was.     

 

Agree that I'm not sure what the "Custom Grind" is supposed to mean, and the grind itself doesn't look anything special. 

 

The JP wedges I have are all great, but like you, I'm not sure what makes the grind special or custom. They are quite heavy and have lots of weight low down, so perhaps that's what makes them good in the sand. They look like fairly low bounce, wide-sole wedges to me. Maybe that's what suits my game.

 

Here are pictures of the three I have. One JP sand wedge, one JP II sand wedge, and one JP II  pitching wedge. Incidentally, the Grind doesn't look particularly different to the one on the Wilson Tom Kite 60* wedge I have (last picture), but the TK wedge has more offset.

[teevons]

On 12/14/2023 at 9:24 PM, ezgoer said:

Keep wearing him down 

He is not the type of person to push. Lucky to get what I could.

Slow and steady !

[Shallowface]

8 hours ago, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

 

Agree that I'm not sure what the "Custom Grind" is supposed to mean, and the grind itself doesn't look anything special. 

 

The JP wedges I have are all great, but like you, I'm not sure what makes the grind special or custom. They are quite heavy and have lots of weight low down, so perhaps that's what makes them good in the sand. They look like fairly low bounce, wide-sole wedges to me. Maybe that's what suits my game.

 

Here are pictures of the three I have. One JP sand wedge, one JP II sand wedge, and one JP II  pitching wedge. Incidentally, the Grind doesn't look particularly different to the one on the Wilson Tom Kite 60* wedge I have (last picture), but the TK wedge has more offset.

I remember an early 80s Golf Magazine article by Ken Venturi where he stated for maximum spin wedges should have "wide soles and no bounce."  He was on Wilson's staff at the time and may well have had some influence in the design of their wedges, although the stock models had at least some bounce.  The TK 60 had very little as I recall.

 

I like a bit of offset on a sand wedge.  Makes me feel as though I can get it under the ball more easily.  I never had any trouble pulling them on full shots because the clubface and what it does is my responsibility, or at least it's supposed to be.  We don't see too many wedges with offset these days.  

[Maine Golfer]

ive said this before, because I grew up playing one a low bounce Wilson wedge is my comfort blanket.  Clip em clean! 

[SnowbirdTom]

The Spalding Reg #113 Robert T Jones Jr woods are back from refinish!!!  WooooOO!  They look fantastic.  Reinstalled in the Sunday bag with the matching irons and they'll play on Tuesday of next week.  Hot diggity dog.

[Coletrain]

On 12/19/2023 at 8:29 PM, SnowbirdTom said:

The Spalding Reg #113 Robert T Jones Jr woods are back from refinish!!!  WooooOO!  They look fantastic.  Reinstalled in the Sunday bag with the matching irons and they'll play on Tuesday of next week.  Hot diggity dog.

Are these from 53.

[SnowbirdTom]

3 hours ago, Coletrain said:

Are these from 53.

They were purchased with a set of 1950 Spalding Stainless irons,  so I’m going with that year.  Don’t have the club information resources like some do here.

[bcstones]

11 hours ago, Coletrain said:

Are these from 53.

 

7 hours ago, SnowbirdTom said:

They were purchased with a set of 1950 Spalding Stainless irons,  so I’m going with that year.

 

so what would distinguish a '50 SS iron from a '53?

[SnowbirdTom]

1 hour ago, bcstones said:

 

 

so what would distinguish a '50 SS iron from a '53?

 

Beats me.  I posted the pictures of the set and a couple edumacated folks said 1950 irons.  Like I posted, I don't have research materials for this old of clubs.

 

[ezgoer]

I took these comparison pics. In person the difference is more obvious. The 50 is a little flatter or thinner overall. 53 is more low profile especially nearest the hozel. 53 Synchro-Dyned is more built up or thicker in the back but yet looks extremely similar.

[ezgoer]

Unsure of the exact year of the older non Synchros just told they are pre 53. These in pictures are lightweight ladies according to the stamping. Not sure how much difference this makes. 

[bcstones]

1 hour ago, ezgoer said:

The 50 is a little flatter or thinner overall

it follows the pre-50 Kro-Flite shape of the RTJ jr irons I have...

[FloggingOkie]

Swear to God I'm like a crazy cat lady but with clubs.. they just find me! Not even hunting and I found these macgregor m75 tourney irons at goodwill. Good shape 2-9 set for $25, couldn't leave them there. Will try to decipher the age shortly.

[SteveNZ]

3 hours ago, FloggingOkie said:

Swear to God I'm like a crazy cat lady but with clubs.. they just find me! Not even hunting and I found these macgregor m75 tourney irons at goodwill. Good shape 2-9 set for $25, couldn't leave them there. Will try to decipher the age shortly.

Those look fantastic. 1951-54, D-3 swingweight, medium stiff True Temper ‘V’ shaft. 

[FloggingOkie]

Merry Christmas Everyone! Spent yesterday around the house so decided to give one of my recent dig finds some attention. Gave the 1967 Wilson Staff Dynapower Irons clean up and regrip. Old grips were prob 45 or 50 yrs old.. what a chore!!  Hard and crunchy but the tape!..my god!..three layers, one wrap clockwise, one counter and one lengthwise! Used a bundle of awesome golf prides I got at goodwill, 14 for $4! 

[Stephen8802]

1 minute ago, FloggingOkie said:

...what a chore!!  Hard and crunchy but the tape!..my god!...

Use a heat gun on both the grip and the tape. Heat the grip up enough to smell the rubber, heat the tape up enough to start to char the edges. It will make remove significantly easier.

[bcstones]

35 minutes ago, FloggingOkie said:

what a chore!!  Hard and crunchy but the tape!..my god!..three layers, one wrap clockwise, one counter and one lengthwise!

Do you have a tape stripping tool, curved end w/ball grip…pretty sure Golfworks sells one, I purchased one from Golfsmith decades ago…no real problem removing tape no matter how old. I’ve resharpened the curved enda number of times.

[FloggingOkie]

29 minutes ago, bcstones said:

Do you have a tape stripping tool, curved end w/ball grip…pretty sure Golfworks sells one, I purchased one from Golfsmith decades ago…no real problem removing tape no matter how old. I’ve resharpened the curved enda number of times.

The tool has made my list after yesterday!😄

[bcstones]

7 minutes ago, FloggingOkie said:

The tool has made my list after yesterday!😄

Check on the bay-thingie - you might find a Golfsmith one. A few years back, I lost my traveling case & had to replace everything, most of which were Golfsmith tools. That bay thingy & etsy were invaluable. I probably spent more than if I’d just bought from Golfworks…but I just think the quality was better 

 

[FloggingOkie]

Pulled out the Hogan profiles I got a few wks ago. They'd been bundled up with duck tape a few decades back so I had to clean off a lot of glue. They have the Vector shafts marked with a 1, would that be a senior flex perhaps?