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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
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I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
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They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.

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I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, mine are exceptional, none of that La La La stuff.
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
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I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
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They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.
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I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, they are really excellent. The Vr Pro Combo is great, but go ahead and get the Vr Pro. ;) None of the La La La stuff.

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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671'][quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
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I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
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They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.[/quote]

Is that pinned next to the thread where everyone on WRX averages 340 off the tee and carries their 3 hybrid 260?

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[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919825' post='11263687']
I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, mine are exceptional, none of that La La La stuff.
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
[/quote]

I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
[/quote]
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.
[/quote]


I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, they are really excellent. The Vr Pro Combo is great, but go ahead and get the Vr Pro. ;) None of the La La La stuff.
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Well then I'm confused about your question of what playing fine meant if you read it.

And if you read it in detail you would know my la la la comment was about having too many options for my next blade purchase and nothing to do with playing combos.

There's no need for a combo set when I score the same using a full CB set as my blades. Iron forgiveness is marginal and subjective.

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Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671'][quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
[/quote]

I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
[/quote]
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.[/quote]

Is that pinned next to the thread where everyone on WRX averages 340 off the tee and carries there 3 hybrid 260?
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It's next to the "I play CBs but I can't prove they actually help me with data" thread.

TEE CB2 13* 3w, 43.5", 57g Fujikura Motore F1 X-flex
TEE CB2 15* 3w, 43" 65g Fujikura Motore F1 S-flex
Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427920402' post='11263759'][quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919825' post='11263687']
I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, mine are exceptional, none of that La La La stuff.
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
[/quote]

I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
[/quote]
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.
[/quote]


I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, they are really excellent. The Vr Pro Combo is great, but go ahead and get the Vr Pro. ;) None of the La La La stuff.
[/quote]
Well then I'm confused about your question of what playing fine meant if you read it.

And if you read it in detail you would know my la la la comment was about having too many options for my next blade purchase and nothing to do with playing combos.

There's no need for a combo set when I score the same using a full CB set as my blades. Iron forgiveness is marginal and subjective.[/quote]

To you it is. Nothing subjective about it. And no I don't care if you shoot the same scores with whatever and yes play what you want.

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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427920519' post='11263771'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427920258' post='11263739']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671'][quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
[/quote]

I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
[/quote]
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.[/quote]

Is that pinned next to the thread where everyone on WRX averages 340 off the tee and carries there 3 hybrid 260?
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It's next to the "I play CBs but I can't prove they actually help me with data" thread.[/quote]

Lol my goodness. If I don't strike the center of the face every time then a cavity helps me. A 20 foot putt is better than a 20 yard chip. If a cavity only helps me save a shot or two a round it's well worth it. If you're shooting in the 90s and don't strike every shot pure then you're just pretending you're something you're not. But hey play whatever you like.

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We are going to lose it....... EVERYONE..... I REALLY REALLY LIKE THIS TOPIC!!! We got some members coming out of the woodwork and some have some really good input. But I dont want this to get locked and I am sure the OP doesnt either.


The funniest part the OP posted something and only 1 person responded soooooo...... TIME OUT!!!!


21degreelofty,

Congrats on purchasing the Nike Pro Combos. Those are as close as they get with a little more forgiveness than the VR Pros.

Couple things is make sure you find a shaft fitting that works for you if you dont get along with what ever is in there. The stocks I know are usually S300s

In any case have fun with those! Keep us in the loop how you play with them, they are a great tweener and you have lots of benifits of both MB and GI in those clubs!
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They have got new DYNALITE GOLD SENSICORE S300 shafts??

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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427920402' post='11263759']
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919825' post='11263687']
I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, mine are exceptional, none of that La La La stuff.
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427919225' post='11263623']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427918778' post='11263581']
OP also here is a good thread for actual users of blades. You will find even more posts by golfers at all skill levels [b]playing blades fine [/b]in it.

[url="http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1119961-blade-users-thread-no-debating-clubheads/"]http://www.golfwrx.c...ting-clubheads/[/url]

Also if you keep your CBs like Exactice advised and play them often in comparison to some blades, you may find that neither type of club impacts your score. It's hard to judge otherwise.
[/quote]

I am not sure whose definition you are using... ;)
[/quote]
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.
[/quote]


I did read it, and you should get some Nikes, they are really excellent. The Vr Pro Combo is great, but go ahead and get the Vr Pro. ;) None of the La La La stuff.
[/quote]
Well then I'm confused about your question of what playing fine meant if you read it.

And if you read it in detail you would know my la la la comment was about having too many options for my next blade purchase and nothing to do with playing combos.

There's no need for a combo set when I score the same using a full CB set as my blades. Iron forgiveness is marginal and subjective.
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I get it, I didn't mean about combos, I meant about the Nikes. They are solid.

Re: playing fine. I meant there is a difference in playing fine, and playing fine according to you. So, that's why we can both have our own valid opinions.

I ran out of "likes" today. Sorry guys.

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[quote name='21degreeloft' timestamp='1427921031' post='11263823']
[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1427918190' post='11263525']
We are going to lose it....... EVERYONE..... I REALLY REALLY LIKE THIS TOPIC!!! We got some members coming out of the woodwork and some have some really good input. But I dont want this to get locked and I am sure the OP doesnt either.


The funniest part the OP posted something and only 1 person responded soooooo...... TIME OUT!!!!


21degreelofty,

Congrats on purchasing the Nike Pro Combos. Those are as close as they get with a little more forgiveness than the VR Pros.

Couple things is make sure you find a shaft fitting that works for you if you dont get along with what ever is in there. The stocks I know are usually S300s

In any case have fun with those! Keep us in the loop how you play with them, they are a great tweener and you have lots of benifits of both MB and GI in those clubs!
[/quote]
They have got new DYNALITE GOLD SENSICORE S300 shafts??
[/quote]


Awesome, I have the Dynalite XP S300s in my JPX825 Pros.

From my personal Observation

1- The overall shaft is lighter than your standard DG Golds.....117grams vs 127-130grams
2- These are Higher launching shafts, so if you hit the ball high already, they will fly higher, keep an eye on ball flight
3- With these lighter shafts, you feel like you dont have to swing as hard. It is less beating on the body, When I swing with my X100 I tend to be sore after a round.
4- With the Pro Combos I think they are a decent shaft pairing. Give it a go and see how you play you might like it.



PS how is your ball flight now? High or low? What is your general miss, left? Right? Slice, Hook etc

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[quote]If you're shooting in the 90s and don't strike every shot pure then you're just pretending you're something you're not.[/quote]

what, an every day guy that likes playing blades? what are you implying?

Guys that spend hundreds of dollars every year with equipment and fittings to improve their stats by 1% are the ones pretending they are on tour, not that there is anything wrong with that really.

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I created a thread in the Cooler as this is probably going to get locked soon.... But I want to get this Heated discussion going as its pissing me off a little how while both sides have valid points.... we can seem to agree to disagree... so I would love to all out brawl there....

lets let OP have fun with his Pro Combos and help him achieve his golf goals. Would love to hear how it goes!

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[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1427922751' post='11263979']I created a thread in the Cooler as this is probably going to get locked soon.... But I want to get this Heated discussion going as its pissing me off a little how while both sides have valid points.... we can seem to agree to disagree... so I would love to all out brawl there....

lets let OP have fun with his Pro Combos and help him achieve his golf goals. Would love to hear how it goes![/quote]

Just as long as he does no worse.

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Anyone think a poll asking mid-cappers (8-15ish?) if they have played blades/MBs (atleast up through 5 iron, for at least half a season), and if so, did their scores change, would be interesting? Or some modified version? Some input would be cool, then we could at least see how many people have tried them and what the outcome was.

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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427920519' post='11263771'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427920258' post='11263739']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.[/quote]

Is that pinned next to the thread where everyone on WRX averages 340 off the tee and carries there 3 hybrid 260?
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It's next to the "I play CBs but I can't prove they actually help me with data" thread.[/quote]

Lol my goodness. If I don't strike the center of the face every time then a cavity helps me. A 20 foot putt is better than a 20 yard chip. If a cavity only helps me save a shot or two a round it's well worth it. If you're shooting in the 90s and don't strike every shot pure then you're just pretending you're something you're not. But hey play whatever you like.
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LOL more lack of proof. Stop pretending you are an expert on what a blade does for your game and what the "criteria" is for playing them when you haven't even gamed them. LOL and you claim you know a cavity saved you a shot with no basis for comparison.

Keep trying to prove your point without any scoring data. But your first step would be to actually play some blades with a positive attitude.

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TEE CB2 15* 3w, 43" 65g Fujikura Motore F1 S-flex
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Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427778483' post='11250921'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427778024' post='11250883']
[quote name='Matt J' timestamp='1427775961' post='11250785'][quote name='tdelam' timestamp='1427768699' post='11250015']
Funny thing, I've never actually hit a blade in my life, not even "just to try". Never had the desire to.
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You don't own a sand wedge?[/quote]

That's part of the delusion with blades. The lower clubs are gonna be more forgiving and most of your "average golfer" courses are gonna have mostly short iron and wedge approaches. Do a side by side with 4 and 5 irons and then you'll know if you're good enough.

*cue the 18 hc'er that plays from the 7600 yard tips. Oh wait he's still hitting wedges and short irons for his approaches. Lol
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^ Cue the poster that can't resist mocking an 18 capper.

Do that same side by side above yourself using a blade, a tweener, an CB, and an SGI over a statistically valid number of shots and get back to us when you can prove a blade hurts your score compared to all the other iron types. If you throw in a hybrid or wood you may have a better point.[/quote]

Scores are relative. If you're bad enough it doesn't matter what you use. That is a fact. In the end play what you want for whatever reason you want but the mindset that blades will help make you better isn't true at all.
[/quote]they had an interview with 3 PGA tour pros awhile back and that same question came up...."mb making better ballstrikers".....they all laughed pretty hard....

Played first round with new to me sticks and hit some pure shots and some pretty crappy ones( mp15 was previous set)...even in short irons forgiveness matters...actually it matters more cuz these are the shots I expect to be fairly close....and I wasnt.

On plus side shots I hit good were unreal in feel and club gets through turf like no other....good swings with poor contact were punished pretty severly...4 and 5 irons were a joke to hit with any consistency....6-pw was bit easier but not "easy" by any stretch....score is relative....I cant afford to give up to many shots and birdies are a must to stay in 70's....Bogeys are gonna happen and birdies offset those..I don't make many dbl bogs anymore because I don't leave myself in a position to make em. ( if I drive it in trees I punch out to somewhere near 100yd marker) I never take risky shots through trees)....but a high or mid hdcp guy has alot of shots to give up so penalties aren't as severe....it's actually easier for these guys to game harder to hit clubs for this reason....but again too many mishits kills confidence and kills score and kills any fun one might be having....

I most likely go back to players cb or get apex pro or something for long irons at very least....it's kinda relaxing to stand over the ball and know you don't have to be so perfect....it frees up swing a bit for me.....

Anyone can game mb's.....but that's not really the question....why is the bigger question...and there are plenty of "why's".....is the ego that big that one can't find some sort of happy medium?...for sure it doesn't help anyone cept 4 the best ballstrikers who use em for logical reasons....looks alone isn't enough these days when so many more forgiving clubs look so similar

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[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427924553' post='11264147'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427920899' post='11263809']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427920519' post='11263771'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427920258' post='11263739']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1427919667' post='11263671']
They either shoot the same or better when using them. I thought you said you read it.[/quote]

Is that pinned next to the thread where everyone on WRX averages 340 off the tee and carries there 3 hybrid 260?
[/quote]
It's next to the "I play CBs but I can't prove they actually help me with data" thread.[/quote]

Lol my goodness. If I don't strike the center of the face every time then a cavity helps me. A 20 foot putt is better than a 20 yard chip. If a cavity only helps me save a shot or two a round it's well worth it. If you're shooting in the 90s and don't strike every shot pure then you're just pretending you're something you're not. But hey play whatever you like.
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LOL more lack of proof. Stop pretending you are an expert on what a blade does for your game and what the "criteria" is for playing them when you haven't even gamed them. LOL and you claim you know a cavity saved you a shot with no basis for comparison.

Keep trying to prove your point without any scoring data. But your first step would be to actually play some blades with a positive attitude.[/quote]

Attitude doesn't flush every shot. If I don't flush every shot there's not a single benefit to playing blades unless my goal is to look like a cool poser. Obviously they work for you though and your inconsistent ball striking shooting 78-98.

Just to add me not gaming them is about as irrelevant as all your other excuses. If I don't flush every cavity back why on earth would I wanna play a blade? I'm not trying to look cool.

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[quote name='govols' timestamp='1427925336' post='11264215']
Attitude doesn't flush every shot. If I don't flush every shot there's not a single benefit to playing blades unless my goal is to look like a cool poser. Obviously they work for you though and your inconsistent ball striking shooting 78-98.

Just to add me not gaming them is about as irrelevant as all your other excuses. If I don't flush every cavity back why on earth would I wanna play a blade? I'm not trying to look cool.
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I 100% accept not flushing every iron shot as a reason not to play blades. Very logical. But, I think you're really projecting your own self-image (ego/vanity) by suggesting that the only reason to play MBs/blades is to pose or look cool. Think about it. I don't know of anyone who plays blades to look cool. I believe some people play blades because they like the way they look, but that's totally different.

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[quote name='buzlin' timestamp='1427926082' post='11264289'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427925336' post='11264215']
Attitude doesn't flush every shot. If I don't flush every shot there's not a single benefit to playing blades unless my goal is to look like a cool poser. Obviously they work for you though and your inconsistent ball striking shooting 78-98.

Just to add me not gaming them is about as irrelevant as all your other excuses. If I don't flush every cavity back why on earth would I wanna play a blade? I'm not trying to look cool.
[/quote]

I 100% accept not flushing every iron shot as a reason not to play blades. Very logical. But, I think you're really projecting your own self-image (ego/vanity) by suggesting that the only reason to play MBs/blades is to pose or look cool. Think about it. I don't know of anyone who plays blades to look cool. I believe some people play blades because they like the way they look, but that's totally different.[/quote]

I think there's a ton that play blades to pose or look cool. Not sure exactly what you mean by the way they look whether the muscle back or at address. I'll agree they look cool but they don't look all that different at address than plenty of other clubs. I love the excuse by some that they "instill confidence" when that golfer doesn't know how they're gonna hit the ball, no idea where it's going, and they shoot in the 90s. Maybe my definition of confidence is different.

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[quote name='govols' timestamp='1427926867' post='11264363']
[quote name='buzlin' timestamp='1427926082' post='11264289'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427925336' post='11264215']
Attitude doesn't flush every shot. If I don't flush every shot there's not a single benefit to playing blades unless my goal is to look like a cool poser. Obviously they work for you though and your inconsistent ball striking shooting 78-98.

Just to add me not gaming them is about as irrelevant as all your other excuses. If I don't flush every cavity back why on earth would I wanna play a blade? I'm not trying to look cool.
[/quote]

I 100% accept not flushing every iron shot as a reason not to play blades. Very logical. But, I think you're really projecting your own self-image (ego/vanity) by suggesting that the only reason to play MBs/blades is to pose or look cool. Think about it. I don't know of anyone who plays blades to look cool. I believe some people play blades because they like the way they look, but that's totally different.[/quote]

I think there's a ton that play blades to pose or look cool. Not sure exactly what you mean by the way they look whether the muscle back or at address. I'll agree they look cool but they don't look all that different at address than plenty of other clubs. I love the excuse by some that they "instill confidence" when that golfer doesn't know how they're gonna hit the ball, no idea where it's going, and they shoot in the 90s. Maybe my definition of confidence is different.
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What is WRONG WITH SHOOTING IN THE 90's????? Please TELL me why that is such a bad thing? Is it a requirement to shoot scratch? What if 90's is the best they will every shoot?

I never understood how people say..... You play blades and it sad that you shoot 90's SO WHAT. What if no matter what club they use.... hell a baseball bat a tennis racket....they will shoot 90's. So if they can shoot their best score with Blades why is that a problem???

A miss hit with a Blade is just as bad as a miss hit with a GI and a SGI.... IT aint going where you intended it to go. So what is the problem?

So stupid this argument...... because you are X handicap your skill is not good enough..... as someone state PROVE that your are not good enough? Because you cant prove that you will shoot better with a GI or SGI.....



If you are going to miss hit something and it will go where ever it wants to go.... why not miss hit it with something you enjoy????

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[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1427927636' post='11264421'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427926867' post='11264363']
[quote name='buzlin' timestamp='1427926082' post='11264289'][quote name='govols' timestamp='1427925336' post='11264215']
Attitude doesn't flush every shot. If I don't flush every shot there's not a single benefit to playing blades unless my goal is to look like a cool poser. Obviously they work for you though and your inconsistent ball striking shooting 78-98.

Just to add me not gaming them is about as irrelevant as all your other excuses. If I don't flush every cavity back why on earth would I wanna play a blade? I'm not trying to look cool.
[/quote]

I 100% accept not flushing every iron shot as a reason not to play blades. Very logical. But, I think you're really projecting your own self-image (ego/vanity) by suggesting that the only reason to play MBs/blades is to pose or look cool. Think about it. I don't know of anyone who plays blades to look cool. I believe some people play blades because they like the way they look, but that's totally different.[/quote]

I think there's a ton that play blades to pose or look cool. Not sure exactly what you mean by the way they look whether the muscle back or at address. I'll agree they look cool but they don't look all that different at address than plenty of other clubs. I love the excuse by some that they "instill confidence" when that golfer doesn't know how they're gonna hit the ball, no idea where it's going, and they shoot in the 90s. Maybe my definition of confidence is different.
[/quote]



What is WRONG WITH SHOOTING IN THE 90's????? Please TELL me why that is such a bad thing? Is it a requirement to shoot scratch? What if 90's is the best they will every shoot?

I never understood how people say..... You play blades and it sad that you shoot 90's SO WHAT. What if no matter what club they use.... hell a baseball bat a tennis racket....they will shoot 90's. So if they can shoot their best score with Blades why is that a problem???

A miss hit with a Blade is just as bad as a miss hit with a GI and a SGI.... IT aint going where you intended it to go. So what is the problem?

So stupid this argument...... because you are X handicap your skill is not good enough..... as someone state PROVE that your are not good enough? Because you cant prove that you will shoot better with a GI or SGI.....



If you are going to miss hit something and it will go where ever it wants to go.... why not miss hit it with something you enjoy????[/quote]

Makes no sense but please hit what you enjoy. I'm guessing your go to shot is a hard skull if there's no difference in clubs for you.

And there's nothing wrong with shooting in the 90s.

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It's because we are good hearted people and don't like to see hackers punishing themselves. We want to help, but only when we are asked, which is what happened when a 12 handicapper asked if he should play clubs that most tour pros shy away from.

My categorization of hacker is really wide, so don't worry, it's not just the 90s shooters. It's also the 80s shooters, and most of the 70s shooters. ;)

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Anyone think a poll asking mid-cappers (8-15ish?) if they have played blades/MBs (atleast up through 5 iron, for at least half a season), and if so, did their scores change, would be interesting? Or some modified version? Some input would be cool, then we could at least see how many people have tried them and what the outcome was.
[/quote]I started the golfing season a few years back with I20's in February and started taking lessons. I was shooting over 100 with good rounds going into the 90's. I asked my golf coach Rob Noel if I could play blades. He said anyone can play whatever they want. So I bought a brand new set of MP69's in March. Took a total of 6 lessons, practiced constently with a net in my back yard and started consistently shooting mid to low 80's and shooting 80 twice by May. Thougt I had it down pat and laid off of practicing and scores went right back up. I think this games is definitely more about putting in the time to practice more so than what your hitting the ball with.

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My categorization of hacker is really wide, so don't worry, it's not just the 90s shooters. It's also the 80s shooters, and most of the 70s shooters. ;)
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Your arrogance is astounding. I hope the emote thing was an indication you were joking.

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Makes no sense but please hit what you enjoy.[b] I'm guessing your go to shot is a hard skull if there's no difference in clubs for you.[/b]

And there's nothing wrong with shooting in the 90s.
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Pretty baseless assumption if you are talking about my game..... but regardless....if anyone will skull a GI, Skull a SGI, or Skull and MB whats the difference? Its still a skull, its still a bad shot. SO WHAT?

And you can agree that theres is nothing wrong with shooting in the 90's right? So if someone plays with Blades that shoots in the 90's there is nothing wrong..... So lets translate this..... as a 90's shooter you have a ....oh wait a Handicap of 18+....... SO really there is nothing wrong right???? Exactly.... So stupid your arguments.

I only say this as I agree with Nine Miler from our last post about choosing the right shot.

I am 12 I know I am a decent ball striker, but I make poor shot decisions and suck at putting has nothing to do with how I actually hit the ball any more..... POOR CHOICES makes me have X handicap..... May not be for all but at this point in our handicap range.... the game becomes more mental than it does technique or ability to hit the ball. At a 15 you should be hitting the ball alright.....
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427928015' post='11264461']
It's because we are good hearted people and don't like to see hackers punishing themselves. We want to help, but only when we are asked, which is what happened when a 12 handicapper asked if he should play clubs that most tour pros shy away from.

My categorization of hacker is really wide, so don't worry, it's not just the 90s shooters. It's also the 80s shooters, and most of the 70s shooters. ;)
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I dont see good hearted people (not you Nine but in general) that bash other peoples games without actually being there and making there own baseless judgement of others when they dont even play the clubs themselves....





Let me try this again explain to me the numbers for Data guys....

If I didnt tell you what clubs I was actually playing......

I shoot an 85

8/14 Fairways

10/18 GIR

42 putts... (2, 4 putts from 30 ft, 2,3 putts from 15ft)

What would you have me fix.... My Irons? Would you say my irons are the cause of the 85? 1 stroke more than my Handicap? Could I have saved some strokes somewhere, could I have shot in the 70's and obliterated my handicap?

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[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427928015' post='11264461']
It's because we are good hearted people and don't like to see hackers punishing themselves. We want to help, but only when we are asked, which is what happened when a 12 handicapper asked if he should play clubs that most tour pros shy away from.

My categorization of hacker is really wide, so don't worry, it's not just the 90s shooters. It's also the 80s shooters, and most of the 70s shooters. ;)
[/quote]I see allot of people say tour shooters shy away from blades, but always see them in the WITB.

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[quote name='govols' timestamp='1427927981' post='11264455']
Makes no sense but please hit what you enjoy.[b] I'm guessing your go to shot is a hard skull if there's no difference in clubs for you.[/b]

And there's nothing wrong with shooting in the 90s.
[/quote]

Pretty baseless assumption if you are talking about my game..... but regardless....if anyone will skull a GI, Skull a SGI, or Skull and MB whats the difference? Its still a skull, its still a bad shot. SO WHAT?

And you can agree that theres is nothing wrong with shooting in the 90's right? So if someone plays with Blades that shoots in the 90's there is nothing wrong..... So lets translate this..... as a 90's shooter you have a ....oh wait a Handicap of 18+....... SO really there is nothing wrong right???? Exactly.... So stupid your arguments.

I only say this as I agree with Nine Miler from our last post about choosing the right shot.

I am 12 I know I am a decent ball striker, but I make poor shot decisions and suck at putting has nothing to do with how I actually hit the ball any more..... POOR CHOICES makes me have X handicap..... May not be for all but at this point in our handicap range.... the game becomes more mental than it does technique or ability to hit the ball. At a 15 you should be hitting the ball alright.....
[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1427928015' post='11264461']
It's because we are good hearted people and don't like to see hackers punishing themselves. We want to help, but only when we are asked, which is what happened when a 12 handicapper asked if he should play clubs that most tour pros shy away from.

My categorization of hacker is really wide, so don't worry, it's not just the 90s shooters. It's also the 80s shooters, and most of the 70s shooters. ;)
[/quote]

I dont see good hearted people (not you Nine but in general) that bash other peoples games without actually being there and making there own baseless judgement of others when they dont eve play the clubs themselves....
[/quote]One thing I can say about a skull shot with a GI like my I25's is this. I had a shot carrying all water about 170 to the green due to a bad drive it left a bad angle into the green. I thinned my 7iron pretty bad, but it flew low and onto the green and actually stayed on the green. The same shot with a blade would have been in the water. Anyway, it was for the money and the club did bail me out there.

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