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[RoverTiger]

A whole day of interviewing candidates begins in 30 minutes. I'll have my laptop on me though, so maybe I'll still hop on here every now and then in an attempt to stay awake.

 

The quintessential professional, me. 😂

[bladehunter]

25 minutes ago, RoverTiger said:

A whole day of interviewing candidates begins in 30 minutes. I'll have my laptop on me though, so maybe I'll still hop on here every now and then in an attempt to stay awake.

 

The quintessential professional, me. 😂

Ah heck.  Most people x themselves  out in the first 3-4 minutes. Tops.   So it’s not that hard.  Same exact rate of time for knowing you found 1 !    Hardest part is  staying  awake 🤣

[Double Mocha Man]

10 hours ago, miamistomp said:

 

Did Child Protective Services get involved?  That adolescent 'gator is being abused.

[Soloman1]

10 hours ago, miamistomp said:

 

here’s a simple test to determine if there are any gators in a lake, pond, stream or any water in florida.

 

1. go to the edge of the water.

2. reach down and feel the water.

3. if it feels wet, there are gators in it.

[bladehunter]

10 hours ago, braincramp52 said:

I'm an animal lover period. You can crap on me a lot before I get mad but treat an animal badly and we have a problem. 

Bingo.  Think the Earp scene in tombstone with the horse.   Except maybe 3 more lashes.  Then the quote “ i already got the guilty conscience.  Might as well have the money too”.    Bingo. 
 

I doubt I could make it without animals.  Each one either showed up on my doorstep , was rescued on the  road.  Or my wife brought home from her travels.   
 

 

[Soloman1]

1 hour ago, RoverTiger said:

A whole day of interviewing candidates begins in 30 minutes. I'll have my laptop on me though, so maybe I'll still hop on here every now and then in an attempt to stay awake.

 

The quintessential professional, me. 😂

 

soloman1’s pet peeves about  interviews

 

best replies to the worn out interview question, “so, why should we hire you?”

these replies make them good candidates.

 

1. ”because… you’re hiring?”

2. “because i need a job.”

3. “because i need money to live.”

 

anyone who starts spitting out a boilerplate, “i’m so excited for this opportunity because i’m aligned with the values of blah, blah, blah…” should be cut off mid sentence and told directly that you won’t be hiring them.

 

if you tell everyone that you’ll let them know after you finish interviewing the candidates, you should be fired. you know within 5-10 minutes if someone ain’t gonna cut it or ain’t who you’re looking for. it’s meek, dishonest and a waste of their and your time. don’t leave them hanging. let them get on with their life.

 

if you’re going to cut somebody, cut them with a sharp knife.

 

you spent time and energy writing a job description, and they spent time reading it. you shouldn’t have to explain it all over again. if you spend more time taking than they do, you’re talking too much.

 

the more questions they ask, the better they are. bonus points if they ask how you do things and why you do things. if they didn’t understand something, or you didn’t explain it well, and they ask again, that’s good.

 

too many interviewers assume things are understood, and too many candidates are afraid to say they didn’t understand.

 

sorry for the rant. and don’t forget those tps reports!

 

if they ask direct questions about the pay, that’s a good sign, not a bad sign. everyone wants to know the truth. it’s important.

[Double Mocha Man]

26 minutes ago, Soloman1 said:

if you spend more time talking than they do, you’re talking too much.

 

 

I got every job I ever interviewed for. Simple, I interviewed the interviewer. 

[Nard_S]

Goes other way too, know in 10 minutes if you even want the gig.

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

I got every job I ever interviewed for. Simple, I interviewed the interviewer. 

Me too. Which admittedly was only 2.  Yea I’ve only worked for two places besides myself. My whole life. And I’ve worked since I was 15.    It’s very easy to get hired. The bar is sooooo low.  I just don’t have the desire to work for someone else.  Life is short enough. 
 

I have however helped my wife hire for 15 years.  It’s easy to cull the undesirables. The ones who have worked 15 jobs in the last 5 years. Usually. Not what you want 
 

Edited June 11 by bladehunter

[Double Mocha Man]

2 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Me too. Which admittedly was only 2.  Yea I’ve only worked for two places besides myself. My whole life. And I’ve worked since I was 15.    It’s very easy to get hired. The bar is sooooo low.  I just don’t have the desire to work for someone else.  Life is short enough. 
 

 

I was once hired to work in a warehouse at a boat building plant. The manager and I, in the interview, both hit it off when we discovered a common love of backpacking and photography. I was highly overqualified with a recent degree and the guy knew I would not stick around for long. It was a great gig, union job, that paid four times minimum wage.

[aenemated]

Yall ain't done any L5 software engineer interviews and it shows 😂

[dashanks]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

 

soloman1’s pet peeves about  interviews

 

best replies to the worn out interview question, “so, why should we hire you?”

these replies make them good candidates.

 

1. ”because… you’re hiring?”

2. “because i need a job.”

3. “because i need money to live.”

 

anyone who starts spitting out a boilerplate, “i’m so excited for this opportunity because i’m aligned with the values of blah, blah, blah…” should be cut off mid sentence and told directly that you won’t be hiring them.

 

if you tell everyone that you’ll let them know after you finish interviewing the candidates, you should be fired. you know within 5-10 minutes if someone ain’t gonna cut it or ain’t who you’re looking for. it’s meek, dishonest and a waste of their and your time. don’t leave them hanging. let them get on with their life.

 

if you’re going to cut somebody, cut them with a sharp knife.

 

you spent time and energy writing a job description, and they spent time reading it. you shouldn’t have to explain it all over again. if you spend more time taking than they do, you’re talking too much.

 

the more questions they ask, the better they are. bonus points if they ask how you do things and why you do things. if they didn’t understand something, or you didn’t explain it well, and they ask again, that’s good.

 

too many interviewers assume things are understood, and too many candidates are afraid to say they didn’t understand.

 

sorry for the rant. and don’t forget those tps reports!

 

if they ask direct questions about the pay, that’s a good sign, not a bad sign. everyone wants to know the truth. it’s important.

But why penalize someone for boilerplate answers when they are being asked boilerplate questions?  Luckily, I didn't have to deal with a lot of job interviews, but usually it was the SOS.  "What are your greatest strengths?"  "What is your greatest weakness?"  Not caring much about a job I was interviewed for once, I answered that my greatest weakness was not being able to think of good answers to stupid questions.  Didn't get that one.  

[Soloman1]

1 hour ago, aenemated said:

Yall ain't done any L5 software engineer interviews and it shows 😂

 

nothing better than places that constantly have jobs open and you know the routine - give you a test with with parameters, output format with sample variables. figure out the math and write it.

 

use all the working code written by applicants, stitch it together and never hire anyone. until the word gets around. by then, they only have loose ends to clean up.

 

or as you go through interview after interview, up the chain, they’re picking your brain on your approach solving different things. teaching the project managers… haha.

 

[Soloman1]

1 hour ago, dashanks said:

But why penalize someone for boilerplate answers when they are being asked boilerplate questions? 

 

i know. there are some really, really stupid people out there.

but, we know this, don't we?

[bscinstnct]

5 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Ah heck.  Most people x themselves  out in the first 3-4 minutes. Tops.   So it’s not that hard.  Same exact rate of time for knowing you found 1 !    Hardest part is  staying  awake 🤣

 

Blade interview me for job I be like

 

 

[Triple Lindy]

Hire slow, fire fast. Man, I’m glad I’m retired!

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, Soloman1 said:

 

i know. there are some really, really stupid people out there.

but, we know this, don't we?

Go to Walmart.  Then go to target.  It’s in all financial demographics.  🤣

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Blade interview me for job I be like

 

 

I promise you , that requirement or anything similar said with conviction, would get you hired on the spot.  Just because I have to see more.   I have this theory.  I can teach a few people anything.  And a few people basic things. But most people- zero. Most people aren’t really trainable when it comes to being self sufficient .  If you’re not self sufficient , don’t have convictions, well you’re going to require a manager.  I detest playing manager.  So ….. A person who thinks that far out of pocket  is easy to teach. If you’re also outside of pocket 🤣…and I am.  

 

assembly line workers vs free thinkers.  Assembly line workers have a place.   I just don’t have an assembly line.   . 

[braincramp52]

I just realized I've only interviewed for one job my entire life. 😅

[Soloman1]

16 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

I just realized I've only interviewed for one job my entire life. 😅

did you get the job?

[Wooley12]

[braincramp52]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

did you get the job?

Yes I did! It was for my sales job I just retired from. Of course it was only one question. 

 

Interviewer: Can you lie with a straight face?

me: Yes I can

Interviewer: You're hired.

[Soloman1]

3 hours ago, braincramp52 said:

Yes I did! It was for my sales job I just retired from. Of course it was only one question. 

 

Interviewer: Can you lie with a straight face?

me: No. That was a lie. Could you tell?

Interviewer: You're hired.

 

[Double Mocha Man]

5 hours ago, braincramp52 said:

I just realized I've only interviewed for one job my entire life. 😅

 

Holy crap! I've lived in 25 different houses or apartments, in 10 different states, interviewed for 12 jobs but I've only owned 11 vehicles.

[BIG STU]

On 6/10/2024 at 5:37 PM, NoTalentLefty said:

Ivy the bulldog is scared of one thing, my golf bag. Will back away and bark at it. She will never love golf.

Her color and pose there reminds me of our French Bulldog. Nothing interests him but food and getting his belly and ears rubbed. No one has to fear him because he treats strangers and other dogs as new friends. He will not bite but will lick someone to death

[BIG STU]

17 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Bingo.  Think the Earp scene in tombstone with the horse.   Except maybe 3 more lashes.  Then the quote “ i already got the guilty conscience.  Might as well have the money too”.    Bingo. 
 

I doubt I could make it without animals.  Each one either showed up on my doorstep , was rescued on the  road.  Or my wife brought home from her travels.   
 

 

We used to have quite a few show up at our place in Gaffney. Being we lived on the frontage road on I-85 and close to 2 truck stops it happened. We always took care of them. Had a Poodle show up one time on sweet little dog. About a week later the Daddy of the family who lost the dog showed up. He had stopped at the Truck Stop to inquire. The owner who was a friend told him to go about 500 yards down the street to my combination race car shop and "farm". Sure enough he showed up and the dog ran to him. They were from Atlanta and the dog had gotten loose. His kids were devastated and he agreed to come back up and try to find her. He offered to pay me and I told him no way I just loved animals and this was not the first time that had happened. About 2 weeks later I got a call from Eddie who owned the truck stop. A LTL driver had shown up at the truck stop with a mixed pallet of dog food. I took the pickup and my son and I broke down the pallet. Come to find out the guy from Atlanta owned a distribution company. There was an envelope with a note saying thanks for taking care of the animals and an explanation

Edit--- I loosely considered my place a small farm since we had like 30 chickens, 4 or 5 cats, 3 residential dogs and 2 goats. Some of the neighbors called it "Stu's Zoo". 

Edited June 12 by BIG STU

[BIG STU]

9 hours ago, Wooley12 said:

That last line sums up my Philosophy in life especially now. Just need to add in front I am retired now so

[BIG STU]

10 hours ago, bladehunter said:

I promise you , that requirement or anything similar said with conviction, would get you hired on the spot.  Just because I have to see more.   I have this theory.  I can teach a few people anything.  And a few people basic things. But most people- zero. Most people aren’t really trainable when it comes to being self sufficient .  If you’re not self sufficient , don’t have convictions, well you’re going to require a manager.  I detest playing manager.  So ….. A person who thinks that far out of pocket  is easy to teach. If you’re also outside of pocket 🤣…and I am.  

 

assembly line workers vs free thinkers.  Assembly line workers have a place.   I just don’t have an assembly line.   . 

It would be really interesting me working for you with the quality of restoration and custom stuff you do. At best on body work my work would be meatball surgery. Oh yes I can hang a body on a race car but a body on a 67 Shelby Cobra with proper gaps etc I would have to be shown. But I can learn. Now if one gets on engine drivetrain and suspension I will admit I am very anal there. I am basically the same way on golf clubs. Now if one wants fancy clubs built with fancy BB&F ferrules etc do not come to me. Nothing wrong if someone wants that just not my cup of tea. Now if you want a club tuned with the correct weight and shaft flex for you then I am your man.

LOL I could see this at your shop (and this is in fun). Noo Nooo Noo I do not want Stu on a perfect body car. but he can build a good engine and drivetrain. If you want a dirt track car or Rat Rod then he is the man. But then with my mind always seeking fresh knowledge and skills I could learn if I wanted to. 

[dashanks]

I deal with so many people who are completely incompetent at their jobs these days, I wonder if interviews are just a waste of time anyway. 

Edited June 12 by dashanks

[Soloman1]

6 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Holy crap! I've lived in 25 different houses or apartments, in 10 different states, interviewed for 12 jobs but I've only owned 11 vehicles.

 

i don't know if i could count the number of jobs i’ve had. everything from dishwasher on down..

 

most of them be like “failed ________”

 

 

Edited June 12 by Soloman1