For those that have applied the GG pivot

[pusb365]

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

[sethdavidsdad]

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

For me the hooks are when my hips slide and I go into right side bend to early.

[Golfbeat]

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

For me the hooks are when my hips slide and I go into right side bend to early.

 

Yes. Same here. Hooks and blocks. If I do the pivot correctly and do not pull my hands down, I basically cannot hook the ball.

[jbw749]

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

 

I hook the crap out of it unless I get what Feels like bubba Watson hip turn on backswing.

[JDogg206]

For me, I really have to have minimal manipulation of the arms and ZERO in the hands in the entire swing. Not sure it will help you, but maybe. Worth a shot.

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

[GreatSpaceCoaster]

I thought long and hard about doing this but I had to ask myself a few key questions

 

Would I be able to implement this swing when I am old and inflexible?

Is this a common swing that I could take to an instructor to correct when I start ingraining bad habits?

Do the best players in the world use it?

 

I guess what I am trying to say is that is that would adopting this swing be like buying a car that only a specialist can repair or buying one that any local garage could? I am still new to the game but never rush into investments because a golf swing is a very expensive investment since Time = Money

[bph7]

I swear to god trying to implement this method will be the death of me! Or the death of my golf game anyway

 

So frustrating, seems to be one step forwards two steps back at the moment. Just had another poor range session and it's driving me nuts!!

 

 

I have zero control of clubface at the moment, it's mostly massive hooks with the odd big slice thown in as well.

 

I tried just hitting half punch shots, trying to keep the release passive with no flipping and I can do that fine, as long as the hands stop somewhere between hip and shoulder height after impact, as soon as I hit a full shot I just have to flip at the ball

 

Grrr

 

I think this might be more of a function of how difficult it is to make large swing changes in a short period of time without an instructor.

[MK7Golf21]

I've never seen him, but I have seen the videos and notes of 3 guys who saw him and they all talked about the lower body move being the first thing that was discussed. Especially given your issues with losing tush line I would've thought his pivot would be very applicable.

 

I have issues with tush line?

 

Yes from the videos I've seen you have significant issues maintaining tush line. But I'm not a teacher and you still have a good move so who cares. Let's not get off topic though. What did GG teach you and what did he say about your pivot?

 

Not afraid to put up my stuff.. I dont see any significant issues, not hogan or anything and am always trying to get better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know what GG says.

 

[bph7]

I've never seen him, but I have seen the videos and notes of 3 guys who saw him and they all talked about the lower body move being the first thing that was discussed. Especially given your issues with losing tush line I would've thought his pivot would be very applicable.

 

I have issues with tush line?

 

Yes from the videos I've seen you have significant issues maintaining tush line. But I'm not a teacher and you still have a good move so who cares. Let's not get off topic though. What did GG teach you and what did he say about your pivot?

 

Not afraid to put up my stuff.. I dont see any significant issues, not hogan or anything and am always trying to get better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know what GG says.

 

 

Ok well that does look better (again I'm not implying in any way you should care about my opinion). But this is getting far afield. Given the swings I'd seen you post in the past, it's interesting that GG did not address pivot at all. Since this is a GG thread, what did you work on with him instead of pivot? I know you've posted it before but that thread is gone. I actually think it would be interesting to see what else GG thinks is important with a new student.

[robbohank]

Does GG have any preference regarding pitch or punch right elbow?

 

I've been dabbling with this for a few weeks now and I've found that going more punch (elbow staying up/behind the right hip into P6) seems to provide more consistent results but possibly not max speed. I haven't quite nailed the throw he talks about just past impact and that seems to be a speed element.

 

More time needed but enjoying the journey working on this change. BTW..... if anything it feels like less strain on the body and I am no spring chicken.

 

I'm considering an on-line lesson but in the meantime I have no illusions about how well I can implement it on my own. It's fine to try and do it with the information that's out there for free, but I certainly don't put any blame on GG if I can't.

[dornstar]

I had the same problem with the hooks. On the SkyTrak, I'm definitely starting the ball more left of where I normally do. I think that's a byproduct of being able to stay behind the ball more than before and my release isn't quite matched up.

[bph7]

Does GG have any preference regarding pitch or punch right elbow?

 

I've been dabbling with this for a few weeks now and I've found that going more punch (elbow staying up/behind the right hip into P6) seems to provide more consistent results but possibly not max speed. I haven't quite nailed the throw he talks about just past impact and that seems to be a speed element.

 

More time needed but enjoying the journey working on this change. BTW..... if anything it feels like less strain on the body and I am no spring chicken.

 

I'm considering an on-line lesson but in the meantime I have no illusions about how well I can implement it on my own. It's fine to try and do it with the information that's out there for free, but I certainly don't put any blame on GG if I can't.

 

Most of his players seem to be punchy fwiw.

[jbw749]

I like working on the GG stuff, because I don't really see much regression. At least in ball striking and feeling physically better. I'm striking it well and don't even feel like I need to stretch out anymore after keeping the pelvis tucked.

 

I am having problems scoring, because I'm just now learning to hit a cut with this move. And it's a little unpredictable with distance control.

 

Every other day we are learning pretty important things that would have been nice to know earlier. Seeing him in person would be ideal. I get the impression he knows the answer to just about any problem your having.

[johnrobison]

Does GG have any preference regarding pitch or punch right elbow?

 

I've been dabbling with this for a few weeks now and I've found that going more punch (elbow staying up/behind the right hip into P6) seems to provide more consistent results but possibly not max speed. I haven't quite nailed the throw he talks about just past impact and that seems to be a speed element.

 

More time needed but enjoying the journey working on this change. BTW..... if anything it feels like less strain on the body and I am no spring chicken.

 

I'm considering an on-line lesson but in the meantime I have no illusions about how well I can implement it on my own. It's fine to try and do it with the information that's out there for free, but I certainly don't put any blame on GG if I can't.

 

Most of his players seem to be punchy fwiw.

In fact, a pitch elbow wouldn't be working with his model, would it? Leaving the arms up while the left side opens up, and trying to keep the shoulders level would result in a punch elbow. I'd think that if you're trying to get into a pitch elbow and still follow his pivot sequencing, you'd be mismatching the pieces and would really struggle.

[JPGolf FL]

Does GG have any preference regarding pitch or punch right elbow?

 

I've been dabbling with this for a few weeks now and I've found that going more punch (elbow staying up/behind the right hip into P6) seems to provide more consistent results but possibly not max speed. I haven't quite nailed the throw he talks about just past impact and that seems to be a speed element.

 

More time needed but enjoying the journey working on this change. BTW..... if anything it feels like less strain on the body and I am no spring chicken.

 

I'm considering an on-line lesson but in the meantime I have no illusions about how well I can implement it on my own. It's fine to try and do it with the information that's out there for free, but I certainly don't put any blame on GG if I can't.

 

Most of his players seem to be punchy fwiw.

In fact, a pitch elbow wouldn't be working with his model, would it? Leaving the arms up while the left side opens up, and trying to keep the shoulders level would result in a punch elbow. I'd think that if you're trying to get into a pitch elbow and still follow his pivot sequencing, you'd be mismatching the pieces and would really struggle.

I agree. Unless you are DJ and right arm swinging per tgm.

[sbark]

GG's initial takeaway move as outlined in this vid really helps set me up to finish the swing and even rotate better

 

 

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gg+swing+tips+youtube&view=detail&mid=CFEC828F6720D72A9EFBCFEC828F6720D72A9EFB&FORM=VIRE

[Bobalu]

He definitely doesn't want pitch with his pivot.

 

https://instagram.com/p/BDPOLxICt2P/

 

Heath, did you practice the GG pivot/swing before going to see him for a range lesson? If so, what did you work on and for what period of time?

[robbohank]

He definitely doesn't want pitch with his pivot.

 

https://instagram.com/p/BDPOLxICt2P/

 

Thanks H - couldn't be a more direct response than that!!! :) It explains some of my initial directional issues. Have always been a bit of a pitch elbow swinger. The controlled feeling of a punch elbow rotational motion is almost liberating.

[Bobalu]

He definitely doesn't want pitch with his pivot.

 

https://instagram.com/p/BDPOLxICt2P/

 

Heath, did you practice the GG pivot/swing before going to see him for a range lesson? If so, what did you work on and for what period of time?

 

I tried on my own to regain flex in my knees, especially the right one. That was about all really.

 

Do you think that you could have 'got it' by studying his videos and IG without an in-person lesson?

[Dbogey]

GG's initial takeaway move as outlined in this vid really helps set me up to finish the swing and even rotate better

 

 

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gg+swing+tips+youtube&view=detail&mid=CFEC828F6720D72A9EFBCFEC828F6720D72A9EFB&FORM=VIRE

 

My favorite GG video!

[Hilts1969]

Watching the GG video on grip before in relation to club face at p6 and having it open is a problem I suffer from. Is it a good idea to get to p6 and turn the club to the desired position and retake your stance with this new grip position?

[jaydro]

Watching the GG video on grip before in relation to club face at p6 and having it open is a problem I suffer from. Is it a good idea to get to p6 and turn the club to the desired position and retake your stance with this new grip position?

 

I can say i struggled with the same thing and found that didn't help. Ymmv but slightly strengthening my grip and concentrating on right wrist bend or extension in backswing got me in the right positions without thinking about it during downswing.

[Bobalu]

GG's initial takeaway move as outlined in this vid really helps set me up to finish the swing and even rotate better

 

 

http://www.bing.com/...A9EFB&FORM=VIRE

 

My favorite GG video!

 

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[Hilts1969]

Watching the GG video on grip before in relation to club face at p6 and having it open is a problem I suffer from. Is it a good idea to get to p6 and turn the club to the desired position and retake your stance with this new grip position?

 

I can say i struggled with the same thing and found that didn't help. Ymmv but slightly strengthening my grip and concentrating on right wrist bend or extension in backswing got me in the right positions without thinking about it during downswing.

 

When I tried it before after re gripping from p6 it put my left hand in a stronger position, I was just wondering if it was a good checkpoint as having it this strong feels a bit weird. I have been struggling with left arm rotation trying to get the club face more closed at p6 and square at impact.

[pusb365]

Ugh another bad day at the office. In fact my worst round in a year and I got schooled by a 20 capper on the back 9.

 

I may have to admit defeat soon!

[MK7Golf21]

 

Ok well that does look better (again I'm not implying in any way you should care about my opinion). But this is getting far afield. Given the swings I'd seen you post in the past, it's interesting that GG did not address pivot at all. Since this is a GG thread, what did you work on with him instead of pivot? I know you've posted it before but that thread is gone. I actually think it would be interesting to see what else GG thinks is important with a new student.

 

Nope, maybe if you guys were more professional we could have a discussion. You, ghost, arafal, jacob are the ones hiding behind your little computer screen trying to harass me and be nasty for every little post I make. Never see any swings from you guys ever. Could care less if and when you think I saw George, plus I don't have any "insider" info. You don’t really want to know, if you did you wouldn’t be acting like that so let's just leave it at that. Don’t respond to my posts and I wont yours.

[bph7]

 

Ok well that does look better (again I'm not implying in any way you should care about my opinion). But this is getting far afield. Given the swings I'd seen you post in the past, it's interesting that GG did not address pivot at all. Since this is a GG thread, what did you work on with him instead of pivot? I know you've posted it before but that thread is gone. I actually think it would be interesting to see what else GG thinks is important with a new student.

 

Nope, maybe if you guys were more professional we could have a discussion. You, ghost, arafal, jacob are the ones hiding behind your little computer screen trying to harass me and be nasty for every little post I make. Never see any swings from you guys ever. Could care less if and when you think I saw George, plus I don't have any "insider" info. You don’t really want to know, if you did you wouldn’t be acting like that so let's just leave it at that. Don’t respond to my posts and I wont yours.

 

My swings been posted. Do a search. As for the whole seeing GG thing, I've never implied you haven't seen him. If you are in fact lying about having seen him (again something I've never said) then I do think it's important that others know this since you post on here acting like you have and I think it's misleading for people to think they are getting info from someone who has seen him when they hadn't. But I think most have made up their mind one way or the other. Have a good rest of your weekend.

[pappaf2]

He definitely doesn't want pitch with his pivot.

 

https://instagram.com/p/BDPOLxICt2P/

 

Heath, did you practice the GG pivot/swing before going to see him for a range lesson? If so, what did you work on and for what period of time?

 

I tried on my own to regain flex in my knees, especially the right one. That was about all really.

 

Do you think that you could have 'got it' by studying his videos and IG without an in-person lesson?

 

I never have been very good at making changes myself. It is so much easier to understand when it's explained and applied directly to your swing. With that said, it's not super complicated though and everything is pretty much on the member site.

 

The short game, putting, and my favs mental and sand stuff are just as good as the full swing stuff. I talked to tembolo and he was more stoked about some half wedges and putting stuff that GG changed. My sand game is so different now and that was all from online, GG never looked at my sand game. I was 3 for 3 today from the bunkers and last year would have been lucky to have been 1 for 3.

 

Tembolo is working with GG? He's probably really porking it now!

[MK7Golf21]

Ok well that does look better (again I'm not implying in any way you should care about my opinion). But this is getting far afield. Given the swings I'd seen you post in the past, it's interesting that GG did not address pivot at all. Since this is a GG thread, what did you work on with him instead of pivot? I know you've posted it before but that thread is gone. I actually think it would be interesting to see what else GG thinks is important with a new student.

 

Nope, maybe if you guys were more professional we could have a discussion. You, ghost, arafal, jacob are the ones hiding behind your little computer screen trying to harass me and be nasty for every little post I make. Never see any swings from you guys ever. Could care less if and when you think I saw George, plus I don't have any "insider" info. You don’t really want to know, if you did you wouldn’t be acting like that so let's just leave it at that. Don’t respond to my posts and I wont yours.

 

My swings been posted. Do a search. As for the whole seeing GG thing, I've never implied you haven't seen him. If you are in fact lying about having seen him (again something I've never said) then I do think it's important that others know this since you post on here acting like you have and I think it's misleading for people to think they are getting info from someone who has seen him when they hadn't. But I think most have made up their mind one way or the other. Have a good rest of your weekend.

 

You realize my response was about Clays video and my work with Kevin weeks right? Nothing about George in my post, you tried to pull it into that again...

 

Im not on here saying, this is what George taught me, do this. Never have ever. Many people are commenting on instgram videos alone and membership site. In no way am I giving out "info" from seeing him

[bph7]

Ok well that does look better (again I'm not implying in any way you should care about my opinion). But this is getting far afield. Given the swings I'd seen you post in the past, it's interesting that GG did not address pivot at all. Since this is a GG thread, what did you work on with him instead of pivot? I know you've posted it before but that thread is gone. I actually think it would be interesting to see what else GG thinks is important with a new student.

 

Nope, maybe if you guys were more professional we could have a discussion. You, ghost, arafal, jacob are the ones hiding behind your little computer screen trying to harass me and be nasty for every little post I make. Never see any swings from you guys ever. Could care less if and when you think I saw George, plus I don't have any "insider" info. You don’t really want to know, if you did you wouldn’t be acting like that so let's just leave it at that. Don’t respond to my posts and I wont yours.

 

My swings been posted. Do a search. As for the whole seeing GG thing, I've never implied you haven't seen him. If you are in fact lying about having seen him (again something I've never said) then I do think it's important that others know this since you post on here acting like you have and I think it's misleading for people to think they are getting info from someone who has seen him when they hadn't. But I think most have made up their mind one way or the other. Have a good rest of your weekend.

 

You realize my response was about Clays video and my work with Kevin weeks right? Nothing about George in my post, you tried to pull it into that again...

 

Im not on here saying, this is what George taught me, do this. Never have ever. Many people are commenting on instgram videos alone and membership site. In no way am I giving out "info" from seeing him

 

Ok thats fair. I was curious in what he had taught you but if you don't want to discuss that you obviously don't have to. No point in getting this further off track.