New 2017 TaylorMade M1 Driver?

[Z1ggy16]

FWIW my M1 came very under weight at a total head weight of 191g. It STUNK because of this. I just added about 9g of lead tape and it was much better. I messed with the weights, too.. I added both to the front track which killed my spin, but it was holy unforgiving and sounded weird too. Next, I am putting both weights in the back track, split so one is all the way back, and one up front. I put the lead tape as close to the tracks as possible. Heaviest weight in the back. I'll probably mess around a bit and see what happens when they are both up near the front.. both near the back.

 

[brushie]

I finally got mine out to the course. I think it may be more forgiving than my 2016 m2. That's with the weight all the way back. Distance is probably about the same.

[bobcat]

FWIW my M1 came very under weight at a total head weight of 191g. It STUNK because of this. I just added about 9g of lead tape and it was much better. I messed with the weights, too.. I added both to the front track which killed my spin, but it was holy unforgiving and sounded weird too. Next, I am putting both weights in the back track, split so one is all the way back, and one up front. I put the lead tape as close to the tracks as possible. Heaviest weight in the back. I'll probably mess around a bit and see what happens when they are both up near the front.. both near the back.

 

 

Did you remember to include the weight of the adapter as part of the total clubhead weight? For swingweighting purposes, the shaft adapter is clubhead weight, not additional shaft weight.

 

:golfer:

[Z1ggy16]

FWIW my M1 came very under weight at a total head weight of 191g. It STUNK because of this. I just added about 9g of lead tape and it was much better. I messed with the weights, too.. I added both to the front track which killed my spin, but it was holy unforgiving and sounded weird too. Next, I am putting both weights in the back track, split so one is all the way back, and one up front. I put the lead tape as close to the tracks as possible. Heaviest weight in the back. I'll probably mess around a bit and see what happens when they are both up near the front.. both near the back.

 

 

Did you remember to include the weight of the adapter as part of the total clubhead weight? For swingweighting purposes, the shaft adapter is clubhead weight, not additional shaft weight.

 

:golfer:

I compared it to my Fly Z, which was 199g head weight only, so adapter is irrelevant.

[bobcat]

FWIW my M1 came very under weight at a total head weight of 191g. It STUNK because of this. I just added about 9g of lead tape and it was much better. I messed with the weights, too.. I added both to the front track which killed my spin, but it was holy unforgiving and sounded weird too. Next, I am putting both weights in the back track, split so one is all the way back, and one up front. I put the lead tape as close to the tracks as possible. Heaviest weight in the back. I'll probably mess around a bit and see what happens when they are both up near the front.. both near the back.

 

 

Did you remember to include the weight of the adapter as part of the total clubhead weight? For swingweighting purposes, the shaft adapter is clubhead weight, not additional shaft weight.

 

:golfer:

I compared it to my Fly Z, which was 199g head weight only, so adapter is irrelevant.

 

Not really, TM adapters weigh approximately 7.5-grams. Adding that it in would yield a weight of approximately 198.5-grams which is quite typical.

[Z1ggy16]

You're missing the point. The cobra adapter is going to weigh about the same as the TM one. Thus... I'm only comparing head weight here. Fly Z was 199, M1 was 191. Under weight.

[ignitewvu]

You're missing the point. The cobra adapter is going to weigh about the same as the TM one. Thus... I'm only comparing head weight here. Fly Z was 199, M1 was 191. Under weight.

 

191 Is very light....thats like Tour Issued Light without Hotmelt.

 

I think My 440 came in at 197.5 without the adapter.

[Z1ggy16]

You're missing the point. The cobra adapter is going to weigh about the same as the TM one. Thus... I'm only comparing head weight here. Fly Z was 199, M1 was 191. Under weight.

 

191 Is very light....thats like Tour Issued Light without Hotmelt.

 

I think My 440 came in at 197.5 without the adapter.

Myself and another member speculated it was maybe TM's attempt to SW match because I first got it with the Black tie 60m4, so maybe the D3-ish weighting spec was with a slightly heavier shaft or something. Either way, 191 is just too light and I'm not putting enough torque into the shaft at that head weight to get enough kick. At 200g it's pretty good now. Swing speed even went up... although I gotta admit my strike is just not good. Sim tells me my 117mph swing is only producing 158mph ball speed. I suspect the 117 is off and it's probably more like 107-110.

[doctorjedi]

I went to buy an Epic but ended up with an M1; the Epic Head shape and sound did not do it for me. I come from a G25 so I like the pancake style head. Numbers where all about the same. I kinda feel that if jail break was all it was cracked up to be then there would be some type of scientific data from callaway showing that a move .25 inches from the center of the face will retain ball speed in this fashion. But I digress. Both solid drivers I went in for an Epic but kept an open mind. Can't wait until the weather turns and I can start hitting the course. Fitting was done at Prove it Golf in Weathersfield CT.

 

 

 

 

[dmeeksDC]

I am in the process of deciding: Epic, M1, M2, Ping G. Those are the four. I already have purchased an Epic 5 wood, which does not have "jailbreak" in it, but I always have liked Callaway fairway heads and I like this one. It has a profile similar to the Razr X Black line, which fit me well. However, Callaway drivers are more hit and miss and I did not like the Epic driver's feel as much as the 5 wood, which admittedly is entirely different construction. Going to try to hit the M1 if I can find a place that really knows how to adjust them. The place I was at tonight wants you to hit the Epic and they push it hard. I haven't really had a chance to hit the M1 for a full session with different setups. The Ping G LS I am drawn to for ease of repeatability.

[dmeeksDC]

http://golfweek.com/...ards-per-drive/

 

Will Callaway or another Mfg close in on TM this year? Looks like Tmag continues to dominate the long drivers on tour.

 

What really matters is retail sales. So far at our location for 2017 models, the score is:

 

Callaway Epic and Fusion, 14+5 = 19

 

M1 and M2. 3+3 = 6

 

Our other stores report similar ratios.

That would make sense looking at BST........Loaded with new Cally drivers.

 

LOL! For me I struggle with the look of the Epic's, while it might perform I just can't get past the shape. The Epic SZ for me was not as pleasing to the eye as the original Subzero which I have since sold.

 

I had the same reaction to the Epic shape. It doesn't look great behind the ball to me. It is weird how different shapes affect how you feel about the setup. I like the TM better looking down.

[OspreyCI]

I now have a two rounds under my belt with the '17 M1 OG Whiteboard 73 and I have to say this is the best driver I have had in a long time. It is very straight, more forgiving than even the '16 M2, and sounds better than most drivers on the market. I lofted up and have the weight all the way back and the other in the slight draw setting.

 

I played with a very good college aged player and I was excited to be able to keep up with him off the tee. 46 yr old man right here....He also mentioned how he liked the sound of the driver.

 

For me, this is a great driver that will stay in the bag for a long time (and that is saying a lot for me).

[Cwing]

Hit M117 and M217 today. Own the Epic. I cannot turn the m2 over. It was the same with the 2016 version. The m1 17 with a 56 reg shaft was long high draws (for me). I hit it best but I'd want to try the same/similar shaft in Epic. I've got the Rogue MAX 65s and a Speeder 665 stiff out of my XR head.

[chch3]

I hit the new M1 & M2 today also. I had equivalent numbers in both. Lower spin in the M1. The sound of the M1 is much better. If I was to buy one, I would go with the M1.

[spinnywedge]

Agree with the last 2 posts. I bought an M2 recently, and it's harder to turn over. A draw is my natural shot, and I just goes straight. But so do fades. Only way to get it to turn a good bit is a duck hook. Otherwise 5 yard draw. The M1 felt nice with the weight in the back, but the more I moved it forward, the worse it felt. Almost seemed like there wasn't anything in the back of the head. Also, you can tell that the M2's "Geocoustic" noise is not natural. It's not annoying like pings, but a more muted sound would be nice.

[GC70]

Agree with the last 2 posts. I bought an M2 recently, and it's harder to turn over. A draw is my natural shot, and I just goes straight. But so do fades. Only way to get it to turn a good bit is a duck hook. Otherwise 5 yard draw. The M1 felt nice with the weight in the back, but the more I moved it forward, the worse it felt. Almost seemed like there wasn't anything in the back of the head. Also, you can tell that the M2's "Geocoustic" noise is not natural. It's not annoying like pings, but a more muted sound would be nice.

I agree 100% that M1 feels way better with the weight back!

[leejohnkieh]

I finally upgraded to TM heads after only playing Titleist (910d2 and 910F) for the last 5 years. Compared to all the new drivers out right now, the M1 feels considerably lighter and the shape pleases my eye. I also had better numbers with the Epic SZ but hated the look at address.

 

After dialing down my shaft, the ball just flies off the face now. :superman:

[Sabbadoo10]

Just ordered my first Taylormade product in years. The M1 with the Hzrdus 65X. Went in expecting to purchase a Ping being that I currently swing the G20 and I hit it well with a 5 yard fade. But I kept an open mind and tried to hit everything I could.

 

Well first up was the Epic but I couldn't get used to the bulging crown. Next was the Ping LS and I still couldn't get my spin down where I wanted. Finally the M1 got me down in the 1900-2200 range fairly consistently. My only reservation on the simulator was my tendency to hook it. Hopefully I can tame that a little.

 

Excited to see where this little leap of faith takes me. Haven't had a Taylormade driver in almost a decade.

[leejohnkieh]

Just ordered my first Taylormade product in years. The M1 with the Hzrdus 65X. Went in expecting to purchase a Ping being that I currently swing the G20 and I hit it well with a 5 yard fade. But I kept an open mind and tried to hit everything I could.

 

Well first up was the Epic but I couldn't get used to the bulging crown. Next was the Ping LS and I still couldn't get my spin down where I wanted. Finally the M1 got me down in the 1900-2200 range fairly consistently. My only reservation on the simulator was my tendency to hook it. Hopefully I can tame that a little.

 

Excited to see where this little leap of faith takes me. Haven't had a Taylormade driver in almost a decade.

It could definitely be the shaft. I was always snap hooking with the project x. Went with the heavier 70m4 matrix black tie shaft. Cured that problem.

[doctorjedi]

When I first got the club I had a case of the hooks but as I worked it out this club is much longer than my previous gamer. Of course my previous gamer was not fit my 17 M1 is.

[Full Melt]

Damn, I hit the M1 a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it. Just can't bring myself to pay that much for new clubs. Broke college student lol. I'll probably grab one in 2019 after the M3 and R17

[Kyle M]

Went last night and tried the Epic, Epic SZ, and M1. Tried the respective 9, 9.5, and 10.5 heads. The best for me by far was the M1 10.5 head, turned to 9.75. Found the Rogue Silver 70 S to be the best shaft. Looking forward to it coming in and testing it on the course. I picked up 15 yards of carry on my SLDR with the attas gogo 5.

[rfernando]

I went in for a driver fitting the other day and the clubs I wanted to try were the Epic, Epic SZ and the M1. I tried about 5 different heads and 5 different shaft combinations and the head that worked best for me was the 2017 M1 460cc. I had a couple longer shots with the Epic SZ but my misses were worst and didn't feel the extra 8 yards were worth sacrificing forgiveness.

 

It was also nice to know that the best shaft for me is my current gamer (AD BB7X) that I was fit for a couple of years ago. So they just need to change the adapter and install the new head which is good and saves me some money. I can't wait until it's built and I can take it onto the course!

[pitchinwedge]

I went in for a driver fitting the other day and the clubs I wanted to try were the Epic, Epic SZ and the M1. I tried about 5 different heads and 5 different shaft combinations and the head that worked best for me was the 2017 M1 460cc. I had a couple longer shots with the Epic SZ but my misses were worst and didn't feel the extra 8 yards were worth sacrificing forgiveness.

 

I know what you mean. Maybe once a round, the SZ gave me the occasional "h@ly cow that was long". But all the rest were either ho-hum, or what the F***!! Dumped the SZ after three of my worse driving rounds in years (the last round was just 2/14 fairways).

 

All is back to normal now and again averaging 12/14 fairways with both the G30LS and 2017 M1 460. It doesn't means anything, but I switched before RORS, haha!!

[gjlang76]

The 2017 M1 was the driver that finally unseated my 913 D3. I absolutely love the 913 and I am a little heartbroken that it's now in back-up status, BUT the M1 has been nothing short of exceptional. First driver I've owned that completely eliminates the left side for me which is a HUGE deal. This thing just wants to go straight. Another plus is that it feels and sounds great.

 

I originally ordered it with the new Matrix Black Tie, but switched it out for a Rogue Black and it has been an absolute dream. I'm reaching spots on my home course I've never seen before.

[rfernando]

Do most of you who have this driver do much "Tinkering" with the weights?

 

My previous driver was a 915D2, so didn't really have much to adjust and when I first got fitted for my M1 my weights were all the way to the front (Lowest Height) and Middle from left the right. I went to the range today and was hitting it terrible so I did some tinkering and it now sits Middle on the "Height" setting and all the way in the "Draw" setting as my miss is over the top slice, and I was hitting it great.

 

I would ideally like to "set and forget it" but the fact that it has so much adjustability I'm afraid that as soon as my swing falters a bit then I'll go back to my tinkering ways.

 

Do most of you and tinker and adjust pretty regularly, or more so do you just leave it in one spot then adjust your swing around that?

 

Thank you,

[Sabbadoo10]

I have been tinkering with the weights because unlike my old Ping this driver so far for me has been a little wild. It's got my old G20 by 25 yards when I put a good swing on it but I'm having a little difficulty so far finding a groove.

 

I'm a lefty who likes to look down the right side and swing a little down that line hoping for a nice 5-10 yard fade. But unfortunately the face wants to turn over for me a little bit. And that miss is ugly. So for me I got put in some work

[FargoRC]

Do most of you who have this driver do much "Tinkering" with the weights?

 

My previous driver was a 915D2, so didn't really have much to adjust and when I first got fitted for my M1 my weights were all the way to the front (Lowest Height) and Middle from left the right. I went to the range today and was hitting it terrible so I did some tinkering and it now sits Middle on the "Height" setting and all the way in the "Draw" setting as my miss is over the top slice, and I was hitting it great.

 

I would ideally like to "set and forget it" but the fact that it has so much adjustability I'm afraid that as soon as my swing falters a bit then I'll go back to my tinkering ways.

 

Do most of you and tinker and adjust pretty regularly, or more so do you just leave it in one spot then adjust your swing around that?

 

Thank you,

 

I don't really tinker at all with the weight forward or back, to me the club preforms much better putting it all the way back so that has been set it and forget it.

 

I did tinker quite a bit with the fade-draw setting and with the loft but now that I have it dialed in I've left it a lone for the past few weeks. I think half of the battle is getting the back weight were you want it, to me that weight has the biggest impact

[AZdreamin]

I normally tinker with TM drivers, but right after I got it I set the weight back and the fade/draw set to slight draw and have not touched it. Best TM driver they have made in a long time and I have had them all!

[pitchinwedge]

Moved stock weights around. Added and moved lead tape around the head. Removed lead tape and added additional sliding weights instead. Now have two on the front track and one sliding weight in the back.