MD/DC/VA Golfers - Twelve Monkeys Mental Divergence

[misplacedtexan83]

Awww DC are we focusing on the shot or impact point into the ball and after. If you can hit off crappy grass why not good grass?
 

Agreeing with Fabb 

Edited May 26, 2021 by misplacedtexan83

[FAbb]

Crappy grass range is exactly what I spent my formative years as a golfer practicing on.  The entire grass tee was a downhill lie, with very sparse grass, so you were primarily hitting off bumpy dirt.  The skill you attain by learning to strike irons cleanly from those type of conditions absolutely transfers to playing golf.  I'd reckon it transfers much more to improving one's performance on the course than hitting 10x the amount of balls from a "great" mat would.

[Sterling_247]

Fabb, I have a legitimate question. For such a nice guy IRL, how do you manage to come across as such a *t w a t* online?

Edited May 27, 2021 by Sterling_247

[GooseHook]

Not to drag on the range debate, but would you rather:

 

1) Have a range with good mats and full flight balls with a grass short game area 

2) A grass range that doesn't allow you to hit woods

 

 

[ALTSean]

1 minute ago, GooseHook said:

Not to drag on the range debate, but would you rather:

 

1) Have a range with good mats and full flight balls with a grass short game area 

2) A grass range that doesn't allow you to hit woods

 

 

 

#1.  You can tee up a driver so it does not matter if it is grass or mats.  

 

A good driving range is hard to come by around here it seems.  Our club is mats most of the time and has restricted flight balls.  Now that COVID restrictions are easing up, we're on the grass on the weekends, but a full grass range with full flight balls would be ideal.  

 

 

 

[GooseHook]

1 minute ago, ALTSean said:

 

#1.  You can tee up a driver so it does not matter if it is grass or mats.  

 

A good driving range is hard to come by around here it seems.  Our club is mats most of the time and has restricted flight balls.  Now that COVID restrictions are easing up, we're on the grass on the weekends, but a full grass range with full flight balls would be ideal.  

 

 

 

 

It seems that almost every range has that compromise, maybe Waverly Woods and some of the higher tier private clubs do as well. I've had to ask myself the question a few times, my club's range is newly grassed but the range ends at about 210 yards. It's a pretty solid chuck in terms of an annual fee and I still have to go somewhere else to practice full speed drivers.

[XHoop24]

I think I'd pick 1. The short game area would be the tie breaker for me. 

[dcmidnight]

22 minutes ago, GooseHook said:

Not to drag on the range debate, but would you rather:

 

1) Have a range with good mats and full flight balls with a grass short game area 

2) A grass range that doesn't allow you to hit woods

 

 

MV has both of these - which makes the crappy grass range tolerable. Good mats, full flight Titleists, A+ grass short game area/bunkers where you can hit up to 80 or so yard shots (its a little removed form the clubhouse) plus separate chipping green near the clubhouse.

 

Two tiered grass range in front of the mats but it essentially turns into irons only at that point. The other stuff is why I dont care too much about the crappy grass range, I just use Burke Lake when I need to.

[FAbb]

38 minutes ago, Sterling_247 said:

Fabb, I have a legitimate question. For such a nice guy IRL, how do you manage to come across as such a *t w a t* online?

 

Every good story needs a villain, for the people to rally against.  I do it for the people lol.

[dcmidnight]

(meanwhile behind the scenes Fabb is cutting me a deal on a driver head I absolutely did not want need)

[Puppetmaster]

Not gonna debate grass vs mats, will just say at this point, the quality of my practice depends more on my goals and practice habits/focus. Intentionality is required no matter what you're hitting off of. 

 

Side note - remember those old mat set ups with the black rubber all around and the one cutout with the turf mat? The foot area would be all worn down by the metal spikes and the turf would be so hollowed out you had to hit from the edges. I remember just learning to hit mid irons off the black rubber because there was never any decent mats. 

[Puppetmaster]

17 minutes ago, FAbb said:

 

Every good story needs a villain, for the people to rally against.  I do it for the people lol.

 

Is this how we got the "jimmies rustled" gifs? 

[FAbb]

[Sterling_247]

1 hour ago, dcmidnight said:

(meanwhile behind the scenes Fabb is cutting me a deal on a driver head I absolutely did not want need)

 

This 100% proves my point. 

[dcmidnight]

4 minutes ago, Sterling_247 said:

 

This 100% proves my point. 

 

Hey if you had posted your putters in the BST like you said you were going to instead of flapping off about Fabb, that post probably would have been worded differently...

[Sterling_247]

1 hour ago, dcmidnight said:

 

Hey if you had posted your putters in the BST like you said you were going to instead of flapping off about Fabb, that post probably would have been worded differently...

 

Translation please? didn't know you and Tex swapped user names

 

If you're saying you want to buy one or both of my putters then they are definitely available

Edited May 27, 2021 by Sterling_247

[misplacedtexan83]

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[SullGolf]

It'd so hard to pick a side in the Sterling vs FAbb debate.  I want to root against both of them so bad.  It's like Brooks vs Bryson.

[endlesswinterco]

Solstice is up! https://sites.google.com/view/thehivegolfclub/2021-solstice?authuser=0

[Johnny T]

It's so nice to have a thread war again.

[Sterling_247]

3 hours ago, Johnny T said:

It's so nice to have a thread war again.

 

Unfortunately this is just more of a friendly fire incident than a full on Battle of the Bulge. I've been checking the thread more since going back into the office a couple days a week....and club hoeing in the bst

[davechen]

Jr is playing in a tournament this weekend at Blacksburg Country Club in Virginia.  Has anyone played the course?  Also an advice in places to stay, eat, sites to see, etc?

[FAbb]

Go stay at The Inn on campus at VT.  Eat some Cabo Fish Taco, and take a hike at the Cascades Falls.

[Ocgolfrick]

Field Report: Royal New Kent and Golden Horseshoe - Green

 

After monitoring the weather most of the week, I had to cancel the ORIGINAL Unofficial Hive Event at Royal New Kent on Thursday Afternoon.  I just couldn't see making the day trippers travel 3 hours down in the rain, play 36, then travel 3 hours back in what was forecasted to be an all day rain.  Its possible that the Golf Gods were angry that another unnamed IMITATION Unofficial Hive Event stole the good weather for May, but that is pure speculation.

So that left the 3 morons who booked hotels:  Me, @aiyyer and @bandondunes54.  As it was too late to cancel, we decided than rain be damned, we were going to tee it up!

 

*I'm severely allergic to lightning though, so if it was bad I was out of there.

 

Pull in the parking lot and see BandonDunes, along with 3 guys from Gaithersburg who looked as glum as anyone I ever see play golf.  It was looking rather bleak.  

 

The view of the 18th at RNK from Clubhouse.

 

Did get to meet this little fella on the putting green:

 

So we follow the Gaithersburg guys out. In order to keep everyone's interest I propose a 25 cent Nines/Baseball game.  

"How do you play that?" - Aiyyer

OCGolfRick:

 I have to say the first 9 holes of RNK is fantastic and as strong as anything at Tobacco Road. The back 9 does get a little weaker with some throwaway holes, but some memorable ones in there too.  I would still put Tobacco Road above RNK, but the gap is very slight.

Thanks to my ability to manipulate the rules of Nines in my favor, I mean,  score well at a difficult golf course I was able to take $4 off BandonDunes and $4.50 off Aiyyer- who was then stupid enough to have a $5 chipoff on the 10th green while waiting for Team Chen to join off, which I also won.  

Team Chen did indeed drive down and join us on the 10th.  Both played very solid in the drizzle and rain showers.  Funny moment on the 17th:

OCGolfRick: (Bombs drive)

Everyone: Great drive OCGolfRick!  Best of the day!

BandonDunes: Cranks it past me, no surprise

DaveChen2.0- Cranks it past as he should

Aiyyer:  Pops Geritol , pops it out past me.

Dave Chen:  Bombs it past me!

OCGolfRick:

 

 

I felt kinda bad when the Chens wanted to play the first 9, but there was a lightning strike while we ate lunch and I was just wiped.  Sorry fellas.  Aiyyer was brave and played on my behalf.

Next day we play Golden Horseshoe Green for $59.  Aiyyer kinda set the bar of expectations low, and it does start off rather boring, but a cool selection of Par 3's and 5's made it really worth it. I enjoyed it immensely.

Anyway, for a cancelled event and playing in the rain, I had a great time and had a good hang with Aiyyer and BandonDunes54.  And it only cost me about $300 in spa treatments for the wife!

Edited June 1, 2021 by Ocgolfrick

[ALTSean]

51 minutes ago, Ocgolfrick said:

And it only cost me about $300 in spa treatments for the wife!

 

You will make up for it with your spa bill at Bandon.  🤣

 

[ALTSean]

@Ocgolfrick Did you get to Pierce's? 

[dcmidnight]

I had a match scheduled Sunday morning and absolutely, in no way wanted to play. But had all my winter/rain gear set out the night before, new hand warmers, warm gear, the whole nine.

 

Never been happier to have my app blip at 630a telling me the course is closed.

[misplacedtexan83]

14 minutes ago, dcmidnight said:

I had a match scheduled Sunday morning and absolutely, in no way wanted to play. But had all my winter/rain gear set out the night before, new hand warmers, warm gear, the whole nine.

 

Never been happier to have my app blip at 630a telling me the course is closed.

I really wanted our two man match to be canceled but it wasn’t. Lost 2&1. 
 

I don’t think I hit more than bottom groove on most of my shots. It was bad. 

[Ocgolfrick]

33 minutes ago, ALTSean said:

@Ocgolfrick Did you get to Pierce's? 

 

Sadly no.  Wife and I expanded our horizons and hit two new places.  Normally I think of Williamsburg as a sea of chain restaurants, a couple of those colonial taverns, and Pierce's.  We did hit the Cheese Shop in Merchant's Square for lunch the first day (Friday) then did Second Street Bistro that night. HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Upscale American Eats, Top 5 burger I ever had- with great cocktails- especially Mojitos. Then we hit Amber Ox Brewery in Merchants Square the next night- over the top hipster place, but great food- beer is so-so.  They do a biscuit board appetizer with whipped butter and house made marmalade and jelly- its a must have.  Kitchen was backed up at Amber Ox and took a while, but they put me in front of a 50" TV with the Charles Schwab on so I was perfectly content.

[Puppetmaster]

2 minutes ago, Ocgolfrick said:

 

Sadly no.  Wife and I expanded our horizons and hit two new places.  Normally I think of Williamsburg as a sea of chain restaurants, a couple of those colonial taverns, and Pierce's.  We did hit the Cheese Shop in Merchant's Square for lunch the first day (Friday) then did Second Street Bistro that night. HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Upscale American Eats, Top 5 burger I ever had- with great cocktails- especially Mojitos. Then we hit Amber Ox Brewery in Merchants Square the next night- over the top hipster place, but great food- beer is so-so.  They do a biscuit board appetizer with whipped butter and house made marmalade and jelly- its a must have.  Kitchen was backed up at Amber Ox and took a while, but they put me in front of a 50" TV with the Charles Schwab on so I was perfectly content.

 

You had me at "whipped butter".

 

Just kidding. 

 

Not really. 

 

Pierce's has been a regular stop for me whenever I'm close, but it's kinda hit or miss for me. Overall I've always enjoyed it, I just feel like some meals/meats have been better than others. I'll still go though, I like enough. The hush puppies and greens alone are worth it lol. 

 

The Cheese Shop is always solid, and there's a place across there with a good variety of roasted nuts...