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Ping should do that with a retro release of Eye 2K. Just change the number on each club and add a touch of camber to the soles. Basically the old PW gets stamped as a Gap wedge, the old 9 iron gets stamped a PW etc….. They would sell thousands of sets. In all seriousness would love to see someone test an original Eye 2 6 iron at 32* and 37.25” vs a g425 at the same loft and shaft length.

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9 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

Ping should do that with a retro release of Eye 2K. Just change the number on each club and add a touch of camber to the soles. Basically the old PW gets stamped as a Gap wedge, the old 9 iron gets stamped a PW etc….. They would sell thousands of sets. In all seriousness would love to see someone test an original Eye 2 6 iron at 32* and 37.25” vs a g425 at the same loft and shaft length.

I actually did this 2 weeks ago ... only it was my Eye 2s and my 718 AP1s ... The AP1s were exactly 1 club longer except the 9 iron. For some reason, I hit my AP1 PW 125 and my Eye 2 9I 130 - which is odd since my Eye 2 9I is actually slightly weaker (45 vs 43 degrees).

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Just now, tatertot said:

I actually did this 2 weeks ago ... only it was my Eye 2s and my 718 AP1s ... The AP1s were exactly 1 club longer except the 9 iron. For some reason, I hit my AP1 PW 125 and my Eye 2 9I 130 - which is odd since my Eye 2 9I is actually slightly weaker (45 vs 43 degrees).

Cool! The Eye2’s were so ahead of their time. Imagine if the lofts were actually equal….. If I was running Ping I would release an Eye2K (For Karsten) and keep the shape the same, but cast them out of 8620, add a little more camber to the sole, and make them modern lofts.

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Ping G425 3wd @ +1 Flat setting Grafalloy Pro Lite HL Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Ping Alta CB Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Raw reg
PXG Gen 3 0311XP 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Reg

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37 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

Ping should do that with a retro release of Eye 2K. Just change the number on each club and add a touch of camber to the soles. Basically the old PW gets stamped as a Gap wedge, the old 9 iron gets stamped a PW etc….. They would sell thousands of sets. In all seriousness would love to see someone test an original Eye 2 6 iron at 32* and 37.25” vs a g425 at the same loft and shaft length.


One of the big YouTube channels did exactly that a year or so ago.  The numbers were basically equal.

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He should have engraved them with their lofts. Many wedges do, why not all clubs?

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28 minutes ago, Snowman9000 said:


One of the big YouTube channels did exactly that a year or so ago.  The numbers were basically equal.

He did same clubs, but the loft on the g425 7 iron is 6* stronger and a longer shaft. He should have compared the Eye2 7 iron to the g425 8 iron, then the lofts and shaft length would have been closer. 

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Ping G425 3wd @ +1 Flat setting Grafalloy Pro Lite HL Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Ping Alta CB Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Raw reg
PXG Gen 3 0311XP 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Reg

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8 hours ago, tatertot said:

Check out how Ken Flanigan fixed the problem of "outdated" lofts on this old set of Mizuno irons he refinished ...

 

https://www.facebook.com/Flanigan-Bilt-Putters-282577815113927/photos/pcb.5335866496451675/5335866233118368/

If you follow his work on FB like I do he does some outstanding work period. I am on several of the FB groups he is on and admire his work

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6 hours ago, hammergolf said:

Cool! The Eye2’s were so ahead of their time. Imagine if the lofts were actually equal….. If I was running Ping I would release an Eye2K (For Karsten) and keep the shape the same, but cast them out of 8620, add a little more camber to the sole, and make them modern lofts.

I do not play Ping clubs but I study them a lot from an engineering standpoint. I got intrigued some time ago with them messing and studying Ping wedges. There are a lot of different factors and Karsten was a genius had the total engineering package. When you study different models especially EYE 2s on wedges one will see the relationship between loft , sole grind and offset. Ping has always had sorta funky half loft and lie numbers on their stuff. But with closely studying their clubs one can develop some of the genius of why they are set up that way. From an engineering standpoint it is a total package. I am a member of a couple of FB Ping groups I like to read stuff the experts post. On the most Part Ping clubs do not fit my eye except for like the K=1 and Eye 2 1 irons and the Eye2 and Zing sand and lob wedges but I can appreciate and respect the genius of Karsten

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3W  TM V-Steel 15* bent to 14 NVS green Aldila 65gr R

7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

9W TM V-Steel 24* TM MAS Stiff 

Irons  4 thru 9 Mac Nicklaus Muirfields TT Black label R

PW-- Mac M-85 48* S-400 Sensicore

SW 50* bent to 51* Vokey SM-4 stock shaft

LW  58* Vokey SM-5 L grind stock shaft

Putter--- Reuter Standard Bulls Eye Lamkin Leather Wrap Grip

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2 minutes ago, NoFancyUsername. said:

I'm more impressed with what he has done to the Vapor pros.

Oh yes like all of his work outstanding---- Saw the Vapors you are talking about on FB the other day

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Driver--- Honma G1-X Stock 65 R Pured and Tuned

3W  TM V-Steel 15* bent to 14 NVS green Aldila 65gr R

7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

9W TM V-Steel 24* TM MAS Stiff 

Irons  4 thru 9 Mac Nicklaus Muirfields TT Black label R

PW-- Mac M-85 48* S-400 Sensicore

SW 50* bent to 51* Vokey SM-4 stock shaft

LW  58* Vokey SM-5 L grind stock shaft

Putter--- Reuter Standard Bulls Eye Lamkin Leather Wrap Grip

Bag --- Old Jones Classic Non stand

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8 hours ago, hammergolf said:

He did same clubs, but the loft on the g425 7 iron is 6* stronger and a longer shaft. He should have compared the Eye2 7 iron to the g425 8 iron, then the lofts and shaft length would have been closer. 


I thought he did that but I didn’t re-watch it.  If you search ping eye vs modern irons on YouTube, there are actually quite a few videos.

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Guess I keep forgetting that loft, a constant number, somehow keeps changing vs. numbers on the bottom of the clubs...  Then again, I play clubs for the lofts they have and what it gives me vs. relying on a random number Bob, Chris and Kirk went with in Marketing...

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