Fujikura iron shafts.

[hammergolf]

8 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Which weight class? 

I am playing the 75 gram model

[PedronNiall]

On 6/29/2023 at 4:26 PM, Trippels said:

 

Came across this by chance a little earlier today and had a watch. Interesting seeing that the MMT & Axiom were so close for Ian. I certainly planned to consider the overall numbers when I go test some shafts as well as feel, but I didn't quite realize how much variance there is in how some of the different graphite manufacturers distribute the weight along the shaft. Seems like the Axiom & MMT will also be two of the easier shafts for many to use without having to do a lot of tinkering with heavier grips, etc.

 

Still wish these were available to test at more retailers, but c'est la vie. Cost is higher, though if I end up with tighter dispersion, consistent flight, and something that's easier on my body forever, I'm game. Becomes a lot more cost prohibitive when trying to run them in multiple sets, AKA having WRXitis.

[gsrjc]

Okay update time.
 

Driver update - changed to Ventus red 6S tipped 1 inch and playing at 46”. Went from Ventus blue 6S untipped. Ventus red gave me faster club head (2 mph more as I hit 104mph and 153.3 ball speed). I wanted a slightly softer flex so tried this out and it’s staying with my Stealth 9 degree. Dispersion is much better too. 
 

Axiom shafts with my combo Srixon. I was coming from LA golf shafts 105S as I mentioned previously. I went 105S with axiom and had my fitter follow their chart so nothing different. I was also looking for a slightly softer flex. Ball height is the same and dispersion is better. Distance wise maybe a few more yards carry but I’m not looking for more distance. I was liking for softer flex. I can tell you this gives it and more.  My track man averages were 86 club head speed with 120 ball speed.  Carry is 179 with landing angle of 44.6.  This is with a 6 iron standard loft and 0.5 degrees upright. 
 

All in all. Fujikura is making some good stuff so keep it up.  8 iron in the picture with the head only and black and silver ferrule. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by gsrjc

[TM135]

Been holding off but think I need to order a 4 iron with axiom to try

[hammergolf]

Just got off the course. 3rd round with Axioms. These are just sooo good. Better in every aspect than the MMT’s I was playing. Best feel of any shaft I’ve played, higher peak height, more ball speed, and tighter dispersion. 

[jknight]

You guys are killing me with all these reports/feedback! Waiting for my set to be built by The People’s Club……so stoked!

[TM135]

Do we know if OEMs will be offering these?

[hammergolf]

1 hour ago, jknight said:

You guys are killing me with all these reports/feedback! Waiting for my set to be built by The People’s Club……so stoked!

It will be worth the wait….

[hammergolf]

51 minutes ago, TM135 said:

Do we know if OEMs will be offering these?

We asked this question while we were there and they said they were working with some companies. Based on the reviews and performance I would be surprised if some OEM’s don’t add it to their options matrix.

[KensingtonPark]

12 hours ago, TM135 said:

Do we know if OEMs will be offering these?

 

11 hours ago, hammergolf said:

We asked this question while we were there and they said they were working with some companies. Based on the reviews and performance I would be surprised if some OEM’s don’t add it to their options matrix.

Miura has them on their configurator now. 

[Rpete33]

So currently have a Mmt 125tx in my 3 iron, due to some football injuries from years back I’m looking to go full graphite irons next year. I turn my Mmt 3 iron over too much and thinking I can maybe pick up more consistency with the axiom. Anyone comment on the two? Also, if you are rocking let’s say axiom 125x in the irons, what are people putting in wedges? Staying with steel?

Edited July 5, 2023 by Rpete33

[Z1ggy16]

1 hour ago, Rpete33 said:

So currently have a Mmt 125tx in my 3 iron, due to some football injuries from years back I’m looking to go full graphite irons next year. I turn my Mmt 3 iron over too much and thinking I can maybe pick up more consistency with the axiom. Anyone comment on the two? Also, if you are rocking let’s say axiom 125x in the irons, what are people putting in wedges? Staying with steel?

I'm contemplating a set of 125x and I think I'd probably get 125s in the wedges. It's the same thing as going x100 irons s400 wedges.

[KhiloD]

17 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

I'm contemplating a set of 125x and I think I'd probably get 125s in the wedges. It's the same thing as going x100 irons s400 wedges.

There are no 125s available. They are only producing them in the X for now.

[gsrjc]

I don’t know how tip stiff the MMT are so I can’t give you a relationship to the Axiom. I can say that my fitter noted Axiom is a little more tip stiff than LA golf and that’s because LA golf shafts are counterbalanced. 

[Hack Nicklaus]

wedge specific shaft is in the works per Fuji

[Z1ggy16]

1 hour ago, KhiloD said:

There are no 125s available. They are only producing them in the X for now.

Oh, good catch, I thought they made an s and x.

 

Would the "tiger" trick not work in this case? Use an 8i 125x in the sw and LW?

[hammergolf]

4 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Oh, good catch, I thought they made an s and x.

 

Would the "tiger" trick not work in this case? Use an 8i 125x in the sw and LW?

It would, because the short iron profile starts at the 8 iron, then tipped in 1/2” increments for the 9, and P. 

[Z1ggy16]

8 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

It would, because the short iron profile starts at the 8 iron, then tipped in 1/2” increments for the 9, and P. 

Right. So I officially change my answer to 125x 8i shaft 🤭.

 

This is what I'll likely do as I feel like it might be jarring going from graphite of one profile into steel from another. 

[KhiloD]

1 hour ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Oh, good catch, I thought they made an s and x.

 

Would the "tiger" trick not work in this case? Use an 8i 125x in the sw and LW?

They don't have specific 8 iron shafts for the Axioms. It's Long(2,3,4) Mid(5,6,7) Short (8,9,W). the "spinner" trick won't work for these unfortunately. You'd just have to play the short at specific wedge lengths but that won't soften things up as you want.

 

Unless you tip the short like an 8 iron I guess instead of a wedge. That may work actually.

Edited July 5, 2023 by KhiloD
Clarification

[Z1ggy16]

1 hour ago, KhiloD said:

They don't have specific 8 iron shafts for the Axioms. It's Long(2,3,4) Mid(5,6,7) Short (8,9,W). the "spinner" trick won't work for these unfortunately. You'd just have to play the short at specific wedge lengths but that won't soften things up as you want.

 

Unless you tip the short like an 8 iron I guess instead of a wedge. That may work actually.

That's what I meant. Get the "short iron" shaft and treat it like an 8i, which if I understand correctly would mean no tipping. (no tip 8i, 1/2" for 9i, 1" for PW).

 

I think I saw somewhere above that fuji says stepping won't do much, but, stepping doesn't do much in general anyways, unless you're moving 3 or 4 shafts up/down.

 

Back in the day I tried a modus 125TX 8i shaft in my wedges and I only could feel a difference on full swings. Pitches/chips, all the same.

[hammergolf]

3 hours ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Right. So I officially change my answer to 125x 8i shaft 🤭.

 

This is what I'll likely do as I feel like it might be jarring going from graphite of one profile into steel from another. 

I’m actually doing research now to put graphite in my wedges. Not sure if it will be the MCI model or Axiom, still trying to decide.

[hammergolf]

2 hours ago, KhiloD said:

They don't have specific 8 iron shafts for the Axioms. It's Long(2,3,4) Mid(5,6,7) Short (8,9,W). the "spinner" trick won't work for these unfortunately. You'd just have to play the short at specific wedge lengths but that won't soften things up as you want.

 

Unless you tip the short like an 8 iron I guess instead of a wedge. That may work actually.

The shafts in the Short profile are for 8,9,P. So the 8 iron isn’t tipped when installing. The 9 is tipped 1/2” and the P is tipped 1”. Therefore putting an untipped Axiom short iron blank into a wedge then trimming to length is what the soft stepping wedge method is. 

[smdunlop]

I was reading a comment a fitter said about Axioms and am curious what you all have tested. He said if you play X100, the 125x is not a good one to go to but the 105S is. for those who have played X100s, what did you move to for a similar axiom "feeling"

[Z1ggy16]

7 minutes ago, smdunlop said:

I was reading a comment a fitter said about Axioms and am curious what you all have tested. He said if you play X100, the 125x is not a good one to go to but the 105S is. for those who have played X100s, what did you move to for a similar axiom "feeling"

Dropping 20g+ doesn't sound like a solid idea. Weight is arguably as of if not more important than "profile". 

 

I haven't hit them yet but I'm ordering Friday, And will have them built in 2 weeks. I played x100 for a while so I can offer some insight. From what I can tell... X100 should be a decent comparison. Similar weight, x100 is very linear with out being overly stiff. I'm curious why the fitter said it would be a bad one?

[smdunlop]

9 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Dropping 20g+ doesn't sound like a solid idea. Weight is arguably as of if not more important than "profile". 

 

I haven't hit them yet but I'm ordering Friday, And will have them built in 2 weeks. I played x100 for a while so I can offer some insight. From what I can tell... X100 should be a decent comparison. Similar weight, x100 is very linear with out being overly stiff. I'm curious why the fitter said it would be a bad one?

Basically he said that weight doesn't transfer from steel to graphite 1:1 and that weight in steel=torque where graphite isn't that way. His comment was that most people could see a bigger benefit from lighter graphite. He also said 105S=X100 from a fitting perspective...

[urjc22]

As an FYI, there is a good thread over on the Tour forum where the guys that went on the Fuji trip are providing great insight and comparisons to other shafts, etc.

[hammergolf]

32 minutes ago, urjc22 said:

As an FYI, there is a good thread over on the Tour forum where the guys that went on the Fuji trip are providing great insight and comparisons to other shafts, etc.

I was one of the guys lucky enough to be selected to go on the trip. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by hammergolf

[FmaxTurboSi]

On 7/5/2023 at 7:05 AM, Z1ggy16 said:

I'm contemplating a set of 125x and I think I'd probably get 125s in the wedges. It's the same thing as going x100 irons s400 wedges.

 

On 7/5/2023 at 7:23 AM, KhiloD said:

There are no 125s available. They are only producing them in the X for now.

 

 

i'm assuming you can just soft step it for the wedges then.  The wedge is supposed to be tipped 1" with the axioms.  I would check to see if it's possible to put the 8 iron shaft (no tipping) and just butt trim it to length instead?  

[Z1ggy16]

23 minutes ago, FmaxTurboSi said:

 

 

 

i'm assuming you can just soft step it for the wedges then.  The wedge is supposed to be tipped 1" with the axioms.  I would check to see if it's possible to put the 8 iron shaft (no tipping) and just butt trim it to length instead?  

that's what we discussed after this post further down. It should be possible, these are parallel blanks.

 

TBH I'm not sure if I would leave them all untipped or gradually back off the tipping, i.e. instead of 8i straight in for the GW, only tip 3/4", then 1/2" on SW and then finally nothing on the LW, since I almost never swing full (most shots are probably between 10-75%).

 

Technically, I should be smart and tip none of them, see how they feel and perform then pull them if I want them a little tighter and then tip.

[m_w]

On 7/5/2023 at 12:56 PM, hammergolf said:

I’m actually doing research now to put graphite in my wedges. Not sure if it will be the MCI model or Axiom, still trying to decide.

The MCI is an amazing shaft. Super underrated IMO. One of the best feeling graphite shafts.