MEDICUS hinged 5 IRON ADJUSTMENT

[JOHNWAT]

anyone know of a site or forum that discusses Medicus hinged club 

thanks

John

[iacas]

You could post your question.

[MonteScheinblum]

46 minutes ago, iacas said:

You could post your question.

Is this device good for anything other than warding off vampires?

 

 

…….NO!!!

[iacas]

57 minutes ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Is this device good for anything other than warding off vampires?

 

…….NO!!!

 

Yeah, I don't know.

Best selling golf training aid of all time, though. There are a lot of them in garages and basements and landfills. And probably a few ponds.

[MonteScheinblum]

And police evidence lockers 

[Sean124]

That’s a name I haven’t heard in many years

[Nels55]

2 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Is this device good for anything other than warding off vampires?

 

 

…….NO!!!

LOL I ended up with three of them one way or another.  I swing one off and on.  Doing so does seem to help me to get some rotation on my backswing and I seem to get the club on a more reasonable swing plane.  I use Dr. Kwon's trigger motion to get the swing going so that I don't get the medicus twist the clubface early syndrome going.  I think that it can be useful for some swing types.  Definitely not the be all end all of training devices that the adds claim it is.  Probably useless for most golfers as you point out.  I doubt that it will ward of vampires though!  I think you need a cross or something like that in order to keep the vampires at bay?

[Kuuuch]

Lol I was a kid when they came out. Remember begging for one because I thought it was the coolest thing ever 

[Soloman1]

It was great, as long you swung on that plane instead of this plane.

 

I know a guy who used it so much, he had to get it re-gripped. Ironically, he had re-grip his ball retriever, too.

[KD1]

I saw them featured on Club Pro Guy the other day. Looks legit!

Edited April 13, 2023 by KD1

[Curmudg3on]

"You" can learn to manipulate it so it doesn't flip and still have a faulty swing.

[high5golf]

On 4/13/2023 at 6:49 AM, Curmudg3on said:

"You" can learn to manipulate it so it doesn't flip and still have a faulty swing.

Is there any benefit to using it without the wrist manipulation?  
 

my swing isn’t THAT bad and it certainly feels like I can’t get the double hinged 5i waist high without cheating or going a snail’s pace

[jonsnow]

On 4/12/2023 at 9:50 PM, Kuuuch said:

Lol I was a kid when they came out. Remember begging for one because I thought it was the coolest thing ever 

The vampires?

[Scottbox]

Try using a Medicus with a Swingyde... if you want to become "unhinged".

[nikos74]

Mine had a screw at the top of the hinge mechanism that was tightened/untightened with an allen wrench.

[Shilgy]

22 hours ago, high5golf said:

Is there any benefit to using it without the wrist manipulation?  
 

my swing isn’t THAT bad and it certainly feels like I can’t get the double hinged 5i waist high without cheating or going a snail’s pace

And you just hit on the issue imo…..an instructor of mine back 25 some years ago hated them.  Said they were too easy to be fooled as you mention.  What’s the point if by going slowly you can keep it from hinging?

[Chunkitgood]

Somebody gave me one years ago, too rusty now to do anything but be heavy.

 

On the other hand:

Tom Fisher, Technical Director of the TaylorMade Performance Lab concluded," We videoed their swings beforehand and looked at certain swing dynamics; we looked at path, face angle, speed of swing, ball speed et cetera. We noticed after they came back into the Lab after using the Medicus driver, we actually saw improvements in all of the above. Changing someone's path and face angle in 20 minutes time is pretty impressive to me. I think the golfers left today's and Friday's event very, very encouraged about the change in their golf swings and looking to the future. They're going to get their handicaps down from say a 15 to a 10 or even to single figures."  It appears that practicing with Medicus will all but guarantee a smoother, more consistent swing while adding distance and achieving greater accuracy.

 

Ian Wright, TaylorMade engineer and inventor of the MATT System observed, "For the most part, training with the device seemed to have, on average, across all players a beneficial effect on performance." Reflecting on the events of the weekend, Darren Huff basically summed up the feeling of all the test participants when he said, "It was an amazing experience. Learning how your swing was before and then after swinging the Medicus made a world of difference with my swing. You just couldn't ask for anything better than what was accomplished today. It made a big difference."

 

http://www.medicusgolf.ca/science_story.php

 

There are apparently guys with those names working for TaylorMade.

 

Apparently  the objection to it is that it encourages the golfer to do what this guy is doing:

 

 

 

[high5golf]

25 minutes ago, Chunkitgood said:

Somebody gave me one years ago, too rusty now to do anything but be heavy.

 

On the other hand:

 

Tom Fisher, Technical Director of the TaylorMade Performance Lab concluded," We videoed their swings beforehand and looked at certain swing dynamics; we looked at path, face angle, speed of swing, ball speed et cetera. We noticed after they came back into the Lab after using the Medicus driver, we actually saw improvements in all of the above. Changing someone's path and face angle in 20 minutes time is pretty impressive to me. I think the golfers left today's and Friday's event very, very encouraged about the change in their golf swings and looking to the future. They're going to get their handicaps down from say a 15 to a 10 or even to single figures."  It appears that practicing with Medicus will all but guarantee a smoother, more consistent swing while adding distance and achieving greater accuracy.

 

Ian Wright, TaylorMade engineer and inventor of the MATT System observed, "For the most part, training with the device seemed to have, on average, across all players a beneficial effect on performance." Reflecting on the events of the weekend, Darren Huff basically summed up the feeling of all the test participants when he said, "It was an amazing experience. Learning how your swing was before and then after swinging the Medicus made a world of difference with my swing. You just couldn't ask for anything better than what was accomplished today. It made a big difference."

 

http://www.medicusgolf.ca/science_story.php

 

There are apparently guys with those names working for TaylorMade.

 

Apparently  the objection to it is that it encourages the golfer to do what this guy is doing:

 

 

 

So it’s correct beneficial use includes turning the wrists to keep the club facing up like Tiger’s cub is facing early in the backswing?  
 

Everyone complains that that is improper and it is a way to cheat the medicus???

 

So the cheat was the lesson all along?

Edited May 8 by high5golf

[nikos74]

1 hour ago, Shilgy said:

And you just hit on the issue imo…..an instructor of mine back 25 some years ago hated them.  Said they were too easy to be fooled as you mention.  What’s the point if by going slowly you can keep it from hinging?

It doesn't remain hinged by going extra slow.  It breaks down by using hands, wrists and arms independently from the shoulders turning, thus throwing the club off-plane.  Or even better from the hips turning and the shoulders following.  It encourages good pressure shifts with the feet.

 

I am not sure it's a perfect tool.  There could be ways of cheating it, like tightening the hinge too much and thus freezing the mechanism, but it's general purpose is to encourage the body to work as a whole, and it does a good job of that.

Edited May 8 by nikos74

[Nels55]

Okay.  Here is my version of a medicus drill using a trigger motion.  LOL does this look like it is a good idea to you?

 

 

[Shilgy]

1 hour ago, nikos74 said:

It doesn't remain hinged by going extra slow.  It breaks down by using hands, wrists and arms independently from the shoulders turning, thus throwing the club off-plane.  Or even better from the hips turning and the shoulders following.  It encourages good pressure shifts with the feet.

 

I am not sure it's a perfect tool.  There could be ways of cheating it, like tightening the hinge too much and thus freezing the mechanism, but it's general purpose is to encourage the body to work as a whole, and it does a good job of that.

No, you don’t have to be off plane.  Or at least by much.  As long as you’re anywhere near and do it smoothly it will stay straight.  

[high5golf]

10 hours ago, Nels55 said:

Okay.  Here is my version of a medicus drill using a trigger motion.  LOL does this look like it is a good idea to you?

 

 

YouTube video not showing in post, but showing in quote!  
 

I’m a noob, what’s WRONG here so I can be sure to NOT use the medicus “wrongly”

Edited May 8 by high5golf

[high5golf]

11 hours ago, nikos74 said:

It doesn't remain hinged by going extra slow.  It breaks down by using hands, wrists and arms independently from the shoulders turning, thus throwing the club off-plane.  Or even better from the hips turning and the shoulders following.  It encourages good pressure shifts with the feet.

 

I am not sure it's a perfect tool.  There could be ways of cheating it, like tightening the hinge too much and thus freezing the mechanism, but it's general purpose is to encourage the body to work as a whole, and it does a good job of that.

So when are arms, wrists, hands supposed to move, and how?

Edited May 8 by high5golf

[nikos74]

4 hours ago, high5golf said:

So when are arms, wrists, hands supposed to move, and how?

Everything moves together in one piece from the ground up. 

 

A pressure shift to the trail foot causes the hips/shoulders to open up, that raises the arms up and slightly in, that makes the wrists rotate and the hands put the club on the correct path.  Then a pressure shift to the lead foot starts the downswing with the hips/shoulders returning to the address position, the arms/wrists/hands again put the club on the correct path with a square clubface at impact.  Finally a weight shift to the finish position as the clubface closes.

 

The medicus is for a one plane swing.  It will not work with a two plane swing because the backswing does not match the downswing.

Edited May 8 by nikos74

[Scottbox]

The Medicus will give you Tetanus. Thank you ladies and gentleman, tip your waitstaff.