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touch · January 1

Oh that Jim Nance.

Q also votes Jim Brown.

touch · January 1

*Thru QQQ

Favorite Running Backs

Barry Sanders llll

Eric Dickerson l

Gale Sayers l

Marcus Allen ll

Terrell Davis l

Walter Payton ll

Christian Okoye l

John Riggins l

Bo Jackson l

Earl Campbell l

Chuck Foreman l

Joe Morris l

Jim Brown ll

Eddie George l

Kevin Mack l

Jim Nance l

Edited January 1 by touch

touch · January 1

Week 18 Lines for Picks

The last week of the regular season.

* Remember many of these lines reflect teams already highly seeded in the Playoffs resting starters.

Saturday Jan 6th

Pittsburgh -3 1/2 at Baltimore 37 1/2

Houston at Indy -1 47

Sunday

Tampa -5 1/2 at Carolina 37 1/2

Jacksonville -3 1/2 at Tennessee 40 1/2

Cleveland at Cincinnati -5 40

Atlanta at New Orleans -4 41 1/2

NY Jets at New England -2 32

Minnesota at Detroit -5 45

Philadelphia -6 at NY Giants 42 1/2

Dallas -13 1/2 at Washington 46 1/2

Chicago at Green Bay -3 44

LA Rams at San Fran -5 42 1/2

Kansas City at LA Chargers -1 1/2 35 1/2

Seattle -3 at Arizona 47 1/2

Denver at Las Vegas -2 1/2 38

Buffalo -3 at Miami 50

chisag · January 1

18 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

I’m trying to find teams that have something to play for against teams that just want the season to end, much like Team TL. These are early week selections, subject to change. Power Play selection to follow once I lock in the final picks.

... I'll give you my PP pick for the final week since I won't be using it so you can double your loss. 😉

touch · January 1

Our Picks Week 18

TL Tampa Detroit New Orleans

NCLancer · January 1

ATTENTION: UPDATED 1-1

BOLD BLACK: EXCEEDED WINS BOLD RED: MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED ALL OTHERS: TBD (FINGERS CROSSED 🤞) Dark Horse Picks	Team 1	Team 2	Team 3
Touch	Giants (7.5)	Jaguars (10)	Vikings (8.5)
NJBF	Giants (7.5)	Ravens (9.5)	Saints (9.5)
P3P	Steelers (9)	*Texans (6.5)*	*Colts (6.5)*
NCLancer	Giants (7.5)	*Dolphins (9.5)*	*Ravens (9.5)*
Chuntsman	Falcons (8.5)	Steelers (9)	Jets (9.5)
QQQ	Patriots (7.5)	Titans (7.5)	*Colts (6.5)*

Chisag	Jets (9.5)	Bears (7.5)	Raiders (7.5)

TripleLindy	Vikings (8.5)	Falcons (8.5)	Saints (9.5)
DMM	49ers (10.5)	*Dolphins (9.5)*	Chargers (9.5)
imKirby	*Rams (6.5)*	Patriots (7.5)	Cardinals (4.5)
Doctoro	Saints (9.5)	Jaguars (10)	Falcons (8.5)
NSX	Vikings (8.5)	Giants (7.5)	Ravens (9.5)

touch · January 1

Jim Nance

He was inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame in 2009. He played college football for the Syracuse Orangemen. Jim Nance. No. 35. Position: Fullback.

Nance played seven season with the Patriots from 1965-1971 and was the AFL's MVP in 1966 when he rushed for 1,458 yards and 11 touchdowns.

NCLancer · January 1

WEEK 18 PP:

EVERYONE (EXCEPT IMK AND TOUCH) MAY ENTER!

Edited January 2 by NCLancer

chisag · January 1

16 minutes ago, NCLancer said:

WEEK 18 PP:

EVERYONE (EXCEPT IMK AND TOUCH) MAY ENTER!

... Contrary to NSX's excellent and accurate statement concerning PP's, evidently for me this is more accurate:

braincramp52 · January 1

1 hour ago, chisag said:

... I don't agree with a Morrissey often because he is like most columnists and posts click bait, but I think todays column is spot on:

"On a snowy Sunday in Chicago, fans chanted for the Bears to keep quarterback Justin Fields, which is the type of thing fans do when enthusiasm, beer and a dreadful opponent are coursing through their veins.

But if general manager Ryan Poles allows himself to be heavily influenced by those chants or by Fields’ performance Sunday, he, too, should be given a Soldier Field sobriety test.

Fields was excellent in a 37-17 victory against the Falcons, throwing for 268 yards and passing and rushing for a touchdown. The key word in that last sentence was ‘‘Falcons.’’ They were so bad on both sides of the ball that you wondered whether black ties and talent were optional on their invites to the event.

Unless your head resides permanently in the sand, you know Poles has a decision to make in the offseason. The Bears clinched the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft Sunday when the Panthers lost to the Jaguars and the Cardinals beat the Eagles. Poles can use it on one of the top two college quarterbacks — USC’s Caleb Williams or North Carolina’s Drake Maye — or he can hold on to Fields and use his high draft picks to build around him.

One good game against a bad team shouldn’t matter as much as politicking fans think it should. Thirty-seven starts in three seasons should. I fall on the side of moving on from Fields, but I will say I’ve never seen a more polarizing debate over a quarterback than this one. It’s like one of those drawings in which one person sees a rabbit and another sees a duck. Both think the other is crazy. Both might be right about that.

The people who look at Fields and see a great quarterback are the loudest, though with considerably less proof. One of the keep-Fields arguments often proffered is that it would be a mistake to begin again with another young quarterback, to restart the clock, to throw away the previous three years of development. But when a Super Bowl title is the only thing that matters, that argument collapses in on itself. If Poles doesn’t think Fields is a great quarterback who can lead the Bears to a title, then he has to move on. He’s not in it for fans to be entertained by Fields’ running ability.

Presumably, he’s in it to win it. If Poles thinks Williams or Maye is a championship quarterback, then he has to act on that. Great quarterbacks are rare. If Poles thinks Fields can be great, then he needs to act on that, too. I’d argue that three years of game tape have shown what Fields is — and it’s not what the Bears should be looking for if they’re chasing a title.

Another keep-Fields argument states that the Bears have a great defense and thus don’t need an exceptional quarterback. That’s incredibly presumptuous. The Bears have a good defense that has the potential to be dominant. But you don’t skimp on a quarterback because of the potential on the other side of the ball. Especially in Chicago, which regularly overvalues its teams and players.

CBS’ announcers said Sunday that if the Bears don’t want Fields, another team surely will. That probably sent a shiver through Bears fans, but fear isn’t a reason to keep the kid, either. In isolation, without regard for whom the Bears were playing, Fields’ performance was achingly beautiful, one that spoke of what might have been or what can be, depending on your perspective. He got out of jams no one without a cape should be able to. He threw mostly with precision, something that hasn’t always been the case during his time in Chicago.

Was it real? The answer is that somebody forgot to tell the Falcons it’s a good idea to put a defender on Bears receiver DJ Moore.
Moore was open so many times that he’s being treated for loneliness. He finished with nine catches for 159 yards and a touchdown. The Falcons also chose not to put a pass rush on Fields. It was mindnumbingly dumb.

Was this game a reflection of how far Fields has come or a reflection of the Falcons’ defense? With a new year upon us, let’s be kind and say there was some of both. Fields said he loved everything about this game, especially the chants of fans who want him playing for the Bears next season.

‘‘I heard it,’’ he said. ‘‘It was great.’’’ If this was his last appearance at Soldier Field as a Bear, it was a nice way to go out — with a fine performance against an amenable opponent."

I get it Chisag. I think what I'm scared of more than keeping Fields is taking a guy (Williams) that the experts say is a "can't miss" and generational. Scares the hell out of me that our Bears screw it up again.

chisag · January 1

13 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

I get it Chisag. I think what I'm scared of more than keeping Fields is taking a guy (Williams) that the experts say is a "can't miss" and generational. Scares the hell out of me that our Bears screw it up again.

... With 53 starting QB's compared to 3 in Favre, Rodgers and Love started for the Packers you have every reason to be scared the Bears will screw it up. 🙄 But please oh please they have to get it right, at least once don't they? 🤞

nsxguy · January 1

1 hour ago, NCLancer said:

ATTENTION: UPDATED 1-1

BOLD BLACK: EXCEEDED WINS

BOLD RED: MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED

ALL OTHERS: TBD (FINGERS CROSSED 🤞)

Dark Horse Picks

Team 1

Team 2

Team 3

Touch

Giants (7.5)

Jaguars (10)

Vikings (8.5)

NJBF

Giants (7.5)

Ravens (9.5)

Saints (9.5)

P3P

Steelers (9)

Texans (6.5)

Colts (6.5)

NCLancer

Giants (7.5)

Dolphins (9.5)

Ravens (9.5)

Chuntsman

Falcons (8.5)

Steelers (9)

Jets (9.5)

QQQ

Patriots (7.5)

Titans (7.5)

Colts (6.5)

Chisag

Jets (9.5)

Bears (7.5)

Raiders (7.5)

TripleLindy

Vikings (8.5)

Falcons (8.5)

Saints (9.5)

DMM

49ers (10.5)

Dolphins (9.5)

Chargers (9.5)

imKirby

Rams (6.5)

Patriots (7.5)

Cardinals (4.5)

Doctoro

Saints (9.5)

Jaguars (10)

Falcons (8.5)

NSX

Vikings (8.5)

Giants (7.5)

Ravens (9.5)

A TOAST to the CHAMP !!! (You get your pick )

Ahhhhhh,,,,,,, just kiddin',,,,,,, good job !!! 👍

Triple Lindy · January 1

39 minutes ago, chisag said:

... With 53 starting QB's compared to 3 in Favre, Rodgers and Love started for the Packers you have every reason to be scared the Bears will screw it up. 🙄 But please oh please they have to get it right, at least once don't they? 🤞

Since I’m a Cowboys fan, I’ve paid attention to most NFC teams over the years. Your discussion got me to thinking. Have the Bears EVER had a star QB? McMahon won a SB, but he wasn’t anything special, was he? Cutler?

tatertot · January 1

59 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

I get it Chisag. I think what I'm scared of more than keeping Fields is taking a guy (Williams) that the experts say is a "can't miss" and generational. Scares the hell out of me that our Bears screw it up again.

Especially after seeing what his backup did in the bowl game. That team is loaded on offense.

tatertot · January 1

2 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

Since I’m a Cowboys fan, I’ve paid attention to most NFC teams over the years. Your discussion got me to thinking. Have the Bears EVER had a star QB? McMahon won a SB, but he wasn’t anything special, was he? Cutler?

My dad was a Bears fan since the '50s ... The answer is no ... Emphatically no. The name "Bobby Douglass" made him furious till the day he died.

NCLancer · January 1

38 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

A TOAST to the CHAMP !!! (You get your pick )

Ahhhhhh,,,,,,, just kiddin',,,,,,, good job !!! 👍

I don't think it's over yet..

Triple Lindy · January 1

17 minutes ago, tatertot said:

My dad was a Bears fan since the '50s ... The answer is no ... Emphatically no. The name "Bobby Douglass" made him furious till the day he died.

Ha! I thought about listing Douglass, but remembered a game against the Cowboys when the Bears were getting trounced. Douglass got his helmet knocked off and I remember thinking he was too good looking to be a football player, even a QB.

Triple Lindy · January 1

2 hours ago, touch said:

Isn't it swell that Team TL and Team LP get a fresh start with the Playoffs Contest.

Yeah Baby! Let's both turn it around. 🎲

I have the Double It Play loaded up!

touch · January 1

23 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

I have the Double It Play loaded up!

Which one of your Picks are you doubling?

I was counting on a PP this week, but evidently I only get 4 for the year. I must have goofed and not taken my first during the first two weeks.

Go ahead and hit that Double DFW and leave me solo in the basement when it's all over on Monday. 😄

nsxguy · January 1

49 minutes ago, NCLancer said:

I don't think it's over yet..

While I admit I didn't put pen to paper and calc every possibility, and while ol' Casey said "It's never over until it's over", I'll put it in terms of guesstimated "Playoff possibility". ~<1% you can lose.

Nobody will have all 3 dark horses correct and you've got 2, so nobody can pick up any ground on you there.

And given the incredibly high odds of someone actually getting the SB bonus 50 points for a PRE-SEASON SB pick, I'd guess there's ~<1% possibility of you losing. (So there IS a chance then ? ).

Had the SB selection been PRE-PLAYOFFS, the likelihood of getting those 50 points would've increased dramatically.

Had the pick been PRE-SUPER BOWL, THEN those 50 points would've been far more likely and THAT could have made huge difference.

3 guys are already eliminated by having one of their SB teams not IN the playoffs.

Most of the other participants will be eliminated throughout the early rounds.

There's 3 guys with KC/Philly picks and 2 guys with 2 guys with Balt/Philly.

The remaining picks are one-offs - but then they've also got to get within 7 points AND they have to be within hailing distance of you to begin with.

As for the rest, unless you do something really silly, in week 18, nobody'll catch you.

Edited January 1 by nsxguy

NCLancer · January 1

27 minutes ago, touch said:

Which one of your Picks are you doubling?

I was counting on a PP this week, but evidently I only get 4 for the year. I must have goofed and not taken my first during the first two weeks.

Go ahead and hit that Double DFW and leave me solo in the basement when it's all over on Monday. 😄

Weeks 1, 6, 11, and 15 were your PP's. Hit on Wk11, missed the others.

touch · January 1

From Channel 4 in Detroit.

Lions accused of being too confusing in play design.

You’re not going to believe this, but the NFL is blaming the Lions for a blown call that cost them a win vs. the Cowboys on Saturday night.

According to Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, the NFL has no plans to change the rules on players reporting as eligible after Saturday night’s fiasco in Dallas. And it’s not placing blame on the refs.

“Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL does not plan to change the procedure for players reporting as eligible. The league views the situation as an effort by the Lions to engage in deception and gamesmanship that backfired,” Florio said.

“Basically, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to think Skipper was reporting as eligible and that Decker was not. Which would have caused the Cowboys to cover Skipper, not Decker, when the play unfolded. The problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.”

“Part of the problem is that the Lions relied on verbally communicating the eligible/ineligible information to Allen without using the clear, inconspicuous non-verbal signal of the eligible player running his hands over the front of his jersey. It was, apparently, part of the effort to confuse the Cowboys. Which, in turn, confused Allen,” Florio added.

After the game, Lions coach Dan Campbell, Decker, Skipper and Goff all said Decker reported as eligible, and Skipper said nothing to the ref.

Campbell said he told the officiating crew about the possibility of the play before the game, but Florio reports Allen wasn’t present during that meeting.

“So, no, the NFL won’t be changing the procedure. It’s up to the teams to use it the right way. If they deliberately confuse the situation as a matter of strategy, they have to accept the consequences of potentially confusing the officials, too,” Florio said.

So because the Lions drew up a play so good, it even confused the refs, they didn’t deserve to win a game they clearly won. But that’s just life as a Lions fan.

doctoro · January 1

Spoiler

Triple Lindy · January 1

40 minutes ago, NCLancer said:

Weeks 1, 6, 11, and 15 were your PP's. Hit on Wk11, missed the others.

Are we limited to 4 PP’s? If so, I’ve also used all 4.

Triple Lindy · January 1

1 hour ago, touch said:

Which one of your Picks are you doubling?

I was counting on a PP this week, but evidently I only get 4 for the year. I must have goofed and not taken my first during the first two weeks.

Go ahead and hit that Double DFW and leave me solo in the basement when it's all over on Monday. 😄

My DIP reference was a nod to the playoff format. I may have gotten the terminology wrong. 😜

Triple Lindy · January 1

30 minutes ago, touch said:

From Channel 4 in Detroit.

Lions accused of being too confusing in play design.

You’re not going to believe this, but the NFL is blaming the Lions for a blown call that cost them a win vs. the Cowboys on Saturday night.

According to Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, the NFL has no plans to change the rules on players reporting as eligible after Saturday night’s fiasco in Dallas. And it’s not placing blame on the refs.

“Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL does not plan to change the procedure for players reporting as eligible. The league views the situation as an effort by the Lions to engage in deception and gamesmanship that backfired,” Florio said.

“Basically, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to think Skipper was reporting as eligible and that Decker was not. Which would have caused the Cowboys to cover Skipper, not Decker, when the play unfolded. The problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.”

“Part of the problem is that the Lions relied on verbally communicating the eligible/ineligible information to Allen without using the clear, inconspicuous non-verbal signal of the eligible player running his hands over the front of his jersey. It was, apparently, part of the effort to confuse the Cowboys. Which, in turn, confused Allen,” Florio added.

After the game, Lions coach Dan Campbell, Decker, Skipper and Goff all said Decker reported as eligible, and Skipper said nothing to the ref.

Campbell said he told the officiating crew about the possibility of the play before the game, but Florio reports Allen wasn’t present during that meeting.

“So, no, the NFL won’t be changing the procedure. It’s up to the teams to use it the right way. If they deliberately confuse the situation as a matter of strategy, they have to accept the consequences of potentially confusing the officials, too,” Florio said.

So because the Lions drew up a play so good, it even confused the refs, they didn’t deserve to win a game they clearly won. But that’s just life as a Lions fan.

I just read that same article. I agree that the Lions got screwed and the ref’s insistence that the wrong guy reported is just wrong - admit the mistake and move on. And now that we know the ref who made the mistake wasn’t in the meeting when Campbell was briefing the refs makes the error more plausible. Loud crowd, 3 lineman running up to the ref, #70 had been reporting as eligible the entire game - all contributed to the fiasco.

Reminds me of the ‘03 Wild Card game when the Giants had a bad snap on the winning FG attempt, threw the ball downfield where there was obvious pass interference - against an OL who had reported as eligible and whose eligibility was announced over the stadium loudspeakers. Refs called ineligible receiver penalty on the guy who had reported, didn’t call pass interference, thus ending the game. At the next day’s press conference, Steve Marriucci was informed that the NFL admitted the mistake. His response was classic:

”Bummer.”

touch · January 1

24 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

My DIP reference was a nod to the playoff format. I may have gotten the terminology wrong. 😜

No it was me that got confused. You did say DIP but my mind thought PP. Sorry TL.

It was my error.

Now let's you and me go and make names for ourselves in the Playoffs !!

touch · January 1

It's Alabama Michigan time !

Triple Lindy · January 1

Wow - first big play goes Alabama’s way! Horrible decision to try and field that punt.

NCLancer · January 1

42 minutes ago, Triple Lindy said:

Are we limited to 4 PP’s? If so, I’ve also used all 4.

No you're okay!

1, 6, 10, 14, and 18 (if you dare).

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